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Europe: "The Flaw"
We have posted various extracts from this piece from Credit Suisse previously. We will post from it again, because, to loosely paraphrase Lewis Black, it bears reposting... especially in the context of the latest and greatest Greek "bailout" (of Europe's bankers), which incidentally, will achieve nothing and merely bring the country one step closer to a military coup and/or civil war.
The flaw
The market is essentially proceeding on the assumption, as we see it, that banks’ capital requirements can be met organically, through earnings and deleveraging. We want to be very careful about leaning too hard on this; we have insisted for a long time that the banking system needs to shrink, and that the capital markets would grow to match. But this is not a short-term process and cannot be, if it is to remain orderly.
The 2011 consensus range of bank capital requirements was € 100bn to €400bn; the log. average, €200bn, always seemed like a sensible estimate to us. The market is proceeding on the assumption that the need has all but gone away; many estimates now centre on €50bn. Such numbers strike us as ridiculous; the Greek banks alone are absorbing that (see above) and Anglo-Irish absorbed €30bn. This is (yet) another of those cases where a number is small until it is needed, at which point it grows.
But the market has made these moves in thinking despite our long asserting the premise that liquidity cannot cure a solvency issue, and it is liquidity that has been the big change.
What’s happened?
Partly, “the paradox of thrift”. Each bank individually can credibly plan to delever, but collectively the system cannot. But even if the inherent contradiction is recognised, it is hard to act on immediately.
Debt is no cure for debt. What it can do is prevent a self-fuelling Fisher-style debt-deflation and it is clear that the LTRO has at least to some extent achieved that. And it can buy time such that, if the basic business model is restored, solvency can be earned. But we are not sure the business model has been restored; far from it. Here again, our caution and outright mistrust needs to be tempered, and at least patient. But the apparent widespread notion that the LTRO is a game-changer simply does not wash in our view, because of our premise. Game-saver (no Fisher); yes. Game-extender, which makes it a potential gamechanger [Let’s torture a football analogy. If you are down at full time, injury time at least give you a chance, but cannot guarantee a win, unless for a potentially infinite period of your choice. Not every game can be France England 13 June 2004; 0-1 at full time, 2-1 after injury time as Zinedane Zidane proved that football is a game of two halves and two minutes. But every game has an exante chance to do this; even Germany-England, 1 September 2001, which is the rough equivalent of the situation facing the European banking system, in our view; 5-1 at full time with approximately four minutes added.]; yes. Outright game-changer; no.
So what’s the flaw?
The flaw is that, even in 2012, we retain respect for markets. Unfettered, they are not the tool of choice for resolving the current situation but we see it as essential to work with them and harness their power, rather than against them, as we discussed in Twelve Steps.
In Greece it is now clear that the process of avoiding a credit event for the past 21 months has been ruinously expensive. Frustrate the markets (again, individuals making rational, fiduciary decisions, not some conspiracy pursuing an agenda) and they will find a way around the frustration, in our view; in the meantime, costs will increase due to the inefficiencies created, as has happened in Greece.
The result that we now expect in the European banking system is in our view rather beautiful.
The Basel Accords have a patchy track record – to put it at its most generous – and the EBA has almost no track record at all and as we see it, even less credibility in the eyes of the market. The market is fickle (and in this situation self-fuelling, so it must be tempered; indeed it has been by the LTRO), so it cannot even trust its own estimates (as stated above, they are all over the map). But it cannot be frustrated in seeking comfort on such an important issue as restoring trust in the biggest banking system in the world, in our view.
In the banking system just as in Greece, the rescue funds are coming in at a senior level. There are therefore two kinds of bank; those with the market’s full confidence, which will be able to fund at a “senior” but partially subordinated level, and which can repay everything without question [Or, are seen as being able to even at sub level. Either they take advantage of the very attractive ECB funding on offer or issue covered bonds, for example, with no risk or entering the self-fuelling subordination loop.] and those who cannot. The price of time to the latter is ever-further subordination in a self-fuelling circle. Over time, the market will empirically, and with efficient pricing, weigh the liability side of the balance sheet versus the asset side, less haircuts (so haircuts become the de-facto capital requirement), tranche by tranche, maturity by maturity, and see what happens. If there is any insolvency in the European banking system, it will eventually appear, independent of Basel or EBA requirements (which may still becoming binding, of course). But it is hard to see how it appears before some time has elapsed. In this environment, competition for retail deposits, of which the European banking system is chronically short, largely because of its size, will become ever more intense.
Inevitably, due to the mark-to-market nature of repo, the banking system is now even more sensitive to mark-to-market, further baking volatility into the cake. This reinforces our idea that the ultimate arbiter of bank capitalization is the senior unsecured market.
We suspect that organic earnings retention cannot be the solution. According to ECB data, the aggregate post-tax profits of the banks of all EU27 countries were €46.8bn in H1 2011, more than 100% accounted for by large banks (medium-sized banks lost $1.8bn). This pattern has been persistent since the unusual 2008 year (see Exhibit 2).
It is impossible to extract trends from this table, but it clearly does not invalidate a hypothesis that weaker banks (where by definition capital needs are concentrated) might take a long time to earn the requisite capital. Even if capital needs were heterogeneously distributed, which they are not, a period of weak profitability and capital needs at the upper end of the spectrum would suggest a long period. And during that period, we salami-slice balance sheets. Watch your fingers.
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Amen. I have now heard God himself.
The greatest private fraud of human history.
Who are the great fraudsters who are becoming the murderers of the human kind? How does the economy "illness" threaten Democracy and the freedom of people?
http://eamb-ydrohoos.blogspot.com/2012/01/global-debt-crisis.html
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By knowing what happened in indebted Greece, where loan sharks created “bubbles” and the current inhuman debt, one can understand the inhuman plan in total ...understand where this plan started just to bring all states at the same end ...understand how this type of plans are established...
PANAGIOTIS TRAIANOU what is this mindless drivel of hatred towards germany ?? How about you start cleaning house in greece and get rid of the corrupt politicians having sold down the country and modernize & streamline your economy so you reduce the footprint of the state ? How about taking responsability for your own destiny instead of blaming your ills and shortcomings on the germans ?? How about you do what you think is right for Greece by having COURAGE, CONVICTION , INTEGRITY AND HONOR ?
Zola. you're consuming too many history books, written by the victors.
You're looking at a small country with an entrenched oligarchy.
Look at the ZH articles with the data, because I'm too busy.
They also have a surprisingly efficient spy system, so Greeks look after
their own family and business and ignore the politics.
That's the trend. The rest of the world is becoming more like Greece,
not the other way around. Your country has an oligarchy too, I assume,
but you're just too comfortable to push for democratic change and the rule of law.
What's this revolution bullshit, anyway. we've all read the war history and seen the
documentaries. That means wholesale death! That means you die!
You think any political ideology is worth that? You must be from a very young
democracy, or an immature one.
Greece has had a huge list of countries mishandling it. If we get rid of Papademos,
we'll have the Americans to deal with afterward. You gonna help?
The only answer is to avoid politics, and for people to co-operate and withdraw from
the political/economic straight-jacket.
They are cut and paste jobs from Greek sites - trolling
Tyler's looking for logic in banking. WTF?
Spirit of truth has it right. Banking doesn't need repairing
anymore. It's 'fixed'.
Make your choice. If you want a dynamic growing economy recognise that Banks are defunct. They had their uses but grew far too big for their economic viability and so had to create a Glass Bead Game to occupy themselves and so created a Virtual Reality of Derivatives and traded among themselves occasionally suckering some product company but largely playing with credit created by themselves and their Magic Circle. They got rich by taking turns at cheating and rigging LIBOR or other markets and took home nice cash bonuses and lorded it over the real economy of moving metal and shifting boxes.
It is just funny that when this bloated sector hits the skids nations invest the seed capital in Zombies to maintain an aristocratic lifestyle. It is just like the Bourbons or pre-Hitlerite Germany when they were using State funds to keep agricultural land-barons solvent with Hindeburg's Slush Fund being challenged by General Schleicher who was toppled to let the plebeian Hitler be manipulated by the aristocrat Von Papen. It is so funny how Western oligarchy has run out of road but i determined to prolong the party and the Plebs watch on, complain, but keep their heads down.
It is the moral cowardice and fear that their Social Superiors might turn on them - the British accepted a Clegg and a Cameron, Sons of The City so long as their offered gay marriage and increased foreign aid to make the dimwit British feel it was not quite Gordon Brown still calling the shots.....the Americans will look to a Romney to make them feel good or an Obama so they can stick with their experienced leader who will bring "Change" but ultimately only for them, it will be business as usual in the Private Wealth Sector with dimwit voters selling themselves into slavery.
The Bankers are strutting their stuff. Maybe they should replay the old news reports out of Germany and think of Detlef Rohwedder, Juergen Ponto, Alfred Herrhausen,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Box_BRD
It wouldn't take much for those times to return....starting say in Greece,.......no wonder they are all getting terrified of Neo-Nazi cells......they don't know where it will come from, but know it will come....
Finance can basically go back to: i) matching savers and borrowers ii) be a safe payment system and iii) provide risk management.
That is all. Besides those things, I see nothing else it can offer. Financial 'innovation' is jumbo shrimp, bullshit.
Oh, there is *some* Financial Innovation:
the ATM, the gold bars dispencing machine, the debit card and internet banking.
Germans are proved to be the easy solution to breach Europe’s door. Whoever wishes to “set foot” on Europe and demolish it, the only thing he has to do is to “fool” the Germans. For a second time in less than fifty years, Europe’s idiots become the victims of foreigners and they serve their interests at the expense of Europe …it is for the second time that they take money from foreigners and they turn against their European “brothers” under their lenders’ orders …it is for the second time that the family’s fool takes “candies” from the “#r” of the neighbourhood in exchange to get him into the “bedroom” where the younger “siblings” sleep …In the “bedroom” which is common today due to the European Union...
Germany handed all the European countries over to the Jewish loan sharks, by naively believing that this way they would let Germany free. Germany put the European family at the “target” of the “markets” and it is collecting profits every time one of its members gets “executed”. The loan sharks who pretend to be the “hunters” are shooting safely in the European “hen house” because Germany has managed to “raise walls around” Europe. One after the other, Europeans are destroyed so that Merkel can pay the stupid and artificial German debts to the loan sharks.
As in all previous instances, once again its “fairy tale” is extremely misleading. Nazi Germany who used to destroy Europe in the name of the Greek ideals, does the same thing today. The surrendered, corrupting, competitive after receiving subsidies and extremely anti-European Germany pretends to be the unrivalled European power that fights for the European unity and against the corruption. This country that took advantage of the unification to serve its national interests, requires from the other countries to sell themselves out in the name of this unification. This country that even today keeps corrupting anyone around it, it threatens the corrupted ones. It “vomited” over a whole continent and now it is looking for the “spot” on its victims to punish them.
http://eamb-ydrohoos.blogspot.com/2012/02/germany-disgrace-of-europe.htm...
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'Nazi Germany who used to destroy Europe in the name of the Greek ideals, does the same thing today. The surrendered, corrupting, competitive after receiving subsidies and extremely anti-European Germany pretends to be the unrivalled European power that fights for the European unity and against the corruption. This country that took advantage of the unification to serve its national interests, requires from the other countries to sell themselves out in the name of this unification.'
Germany is an occupied nation. By my estimate they are third in line after the Brits and Yanks in their complete disassociation with anything decent and meaningful. I can hardly excuse them by saying they're only following orders but it's hard to expect them not to cover national interests first. Corruption? Ha! They can always point to other nations that are corrupt thereby absolving themselves of any wrongdoing or guilt -- at least in their own minds -- feel free to skim these boards of Americans cudgeling their pea brains in order to comprehend the European 'crisis'. They are so incredibly fucking uprooted and lost they cannot grasp the fact that history doesn't begin with modern America or its 'revolution'. Their attempts are venal and rather pathetic ending up always with a comment about words like 'socialism' 'wellfare state' etc etc. No. Forget it. The continued vilification of debtors will march forth and probably intensify. These people have a severe action bias and acute myopia problem. Can't really say what it is... a combination of factors probably. Luther, Calvin, Max Weber all point to certain aspects of the 'productive' northerners. This won't climax soon so keep circle jerkin until someone opts out by suicide. Divorce is not an option here, they won't sign the dotted line.
Please take the time to listen to a compehensive analysis by Yannis Varoufakis (Greek Economist) at CNBC.
http://tinyurl.com/6w4cycp
Just change the rules and all is ok.
ECB Reserve Requirement changed from 2% to 1% in january!
http://www.ecb.int/mopo/implement/mr/html/calc.en.html
The LTRO Alkaloid - latest from Macronomics
http://macronomy.blogspot.com/2012/02/markets-update-credit-ltro-alkaloid.html
The LTRO is a credit negative event
To be honest, I don't really care about the Greeks or Europe. I just want the SPY 500 to drop 300 points tomorrow. The Greeks can help this happen, so I am interested in their plight. Truth is, I guess I'm just like the banksters..... a greedy, self-centered mofo.
Whew....that feels better.
As BK would say: a day trader of psychopathic bend. Thanks for being frank, not like Ben, who plays at Jack and the beanstalk.
The French TV today carried a long retrospective on Maggie Thatcher; which is obviously relevant in a tangential fashion to this thread of EU at the cross roads; to hell or purgatory, on this issue of Greece and subsequent financial contagion and/or local civil war.
It highlighted a lot of issues on both philosophical and political front : her deep passion for individual liberties and hard work, self made woman, that were her driving personal conviction; her total adherence to Hayek's belief that socialistic policies in economic domain were the road to Serfdom; something which is mantra to ZH community at large.
It begins with her opening statement in Parliament when she accepts Premiership and quotes Saint Francis of Assisi by saying she believes like he she would bring "hope" to humanity through her acts. The fact is that she brought despair to the working class and hope to the 1% class by killing the Unions and introducing the Big Bang into City finance. Ironic that she quotes as icon of her political program the ONE saint who made Jesus Christ the originator's passion for the POOR his life work ; as she did PRECISELY the contrary. She impoverished the poor like none other. Poor Saint Francis of Assisi and his spiritual son, Ken Loach, who hated her for what she did to the Miners of Yorkshire!
On another issue; when she leaves government after her long tenure, her parting quote to J Delors's impassioned request for more collective federation amongst Euro nation states in EU's elected parliament, to decide common economic policy for the new money he is trying to create; she pronounces her famous : No, No, No!
Brittain will never allow a federated EU with a common parliament deciding common policy for Britain. Without Britain, no Stable EU federation...as Merkel has made clear only recently...
The sands of time and the financial construct of debt tower of Babel and Fire Economy, that Reagan and Thatcher have left the world, has created in ITSELF the famous prophecy of Hayek, but from the opposite end of political spectrum : the road to Serfdom has been paved by those who sang individual freedom, gave ALL powers to the 1%, and built the debt mountain to engulf the nations of first world underneath it!!
Oh the irony of those who predict the future of mankind. Hayek is no better than MArx when it comes to predicting from which angle the lightning will strike. Pandora's box now creation of the Oligarchs of individual liberty song; sons of Hayek, Friedman, Greenspan; truly of Reagan-Thatcher mindset!
Forgotten the humanity of the Enlightenment, of collective values and of sharing happiness, we will now share despair in impoverishment.
Coming back to Maggie...the whole TV retrospective was appetiser to the upcoming block buster, starring Merly Streep, made about her life and being released next week nation wide. In all fairness she did create more economic wealth, but ephemeral on feet of clay...was it worth it..? You to judge.
That's TODAY'S reality, Bitchezz!!!
Carpe Diem.
'Hayek is no better than MArx when it comes to predicting from which angle the lightning will strike.'
Ha! Good luck peddling that around here. National socialism will get you banished... AN OUTKAST!! out with him! Then you kindly point out the corporate well-fare state and the temple scratching begins by our Enlightened Anglo-friends. Do.Not.Touch.The.Corporation. Capiche? Baffling...
Hayek... well intentioned he was but so was Marx. It's the latter I see sticking around longer not that I approve or disapprove.
'Forgotten the humanity of the Enlightenment, of collective values and of sharing happiness, we will now share despair in impoverishment.'
Ah... the Enlightenment. Now you reach for the stars falak... Wealth of Nations is an enlightenment work, no? THE MARKETS ARE RATIONAL!!! Kant also... sweet Kant. Living on a rational plane as it turns out is? You guessed it: irrational. Like life itself. Don't look to history and its tentacles for answers, they're not there. Understanding acts backwards, living forwards as that dark Prince of Denmark said.
Beg to differ, looking backwards helps understand what's ahead; we are carbon copies of our ancestors and could learn from their errors!
You are what you do. Thatcher and Reagan et al. did what they did, and we must understand the underlying principles to find causality; it be our inheritence since Aristotle days; analytical logic oblige! Don't throw the baby with the bath water in your despair.
As for peddling fact over theory, fiction and prejudice, you can count on me or you can counterpoint me.
You're mistaken.
“Belief in the causal nexus is superstition.”--Wittgenstein
Has there been a more analytical movement than the logical positivists? The baby cannot be thrown out.
You are the mercy of other forces. You can neither predict nor prepare only adjust.
well you have a right sided brain and I have a left sided one. So we will always be on different value frameworks. That is part of being homo sapien, they come in all shapes and forms.
On a more concrete basis, your conclusion denies REAL decision making processes in ALL fields of human endeavour since the beginnings of human history. All decisions refer to PAST acts conducted by people in similar circumstances as their justification. Its the foundation of natural science and politcal science; notwithstanding the brilliance of Wittgenstein's theory...it remains theory.
Not theory, only reflexion of the world. I can see Ludwig has made you uncomfortable so I'll move to the 'natural' sciences and simply stay away from politics as they are basically economics in todays world.
"Given the facts of atomic physics, contemporary physics raises serious doubts that a strict causality is feasable" --Einstein.
The anticausalist movement within physics is an unpleasant one, especially for the scientist whose religion is the causal principle.
Either man is free or he isn't, the matter is simple.
Your Ludwig provides me counter arguments.
Let me question you on what your ludwig said about his own life experience ; his love of music and his affirmation that all music after Brahms was not music to his soul; now that just shows how past cumulative experience conditions us, even the most original minded brains of neuronal "neutrinos".
As with Ludwig van B, who freely admitted that the cause of his passion for writing his immortal music were his own past experiences; the challenges of Haydn and Mozarts' achievements as CAUSE for his own inspiration to emulate these illustrious predecessors and to surpass them. Once truly a prince after his tour de force around European capitals, he is inspired by Napoleon and later on by his unhappy love affairs; the causality of these resulting in influencing his masterpieces can hardly be contested.
The Indians call it Karma!
I have to warn you, now, that you're doing that weird poetic prose thing that you do when pushed to the limits of what can be said.
From neurons to subatomic particles to continental classical music only to clutch at karma? Well, I hope you're correct about karma is about all I can say but it might be better to recognize it outside the purview of our discussion here. In a strange twist to this exchange here, you've confirmed that the Old continent is living off of a distant past of dead men.
lets not extrapolate, I am not iconic of 'old continent' mindset in any way. Let me assure you of that. I only speak for myself.
Anyways, nice exchange.
No, you're not. Nothing was inferred anyway. Let me assure you I understood your meaning regarding the other Ludwig and I concur... partially. Aesthetics and ethics are one-OOPS... there I go quoting the first Ludwig again. My bad, nervous tick.
man might be free on an individual level, but the culture in which he lives might change against his will
this is glaringly seen in economy as in society - the perceptions, beliefs and actions of a moltitude might change and shift at a pace that might not seen human on a personal level, and utterly idiotic in retrospect, and those shape man (as individual) back
hope it was a contribution... Ludwig makes me always wonder why should we talk about philosophy at all and therefore unfomfortable...
t begins with her opening statement in Parliament when she accepts Premiership and quotes Saint Francis of Assisi by saying she believes like he she would bring "hope" to humanity through her acts.
Sadly you were not there. It was a) NOT in Parliament but outside No. 10 Downing Street and a wholly inappropriate choice of words using the Prayer of St. Francis of Assisi
b)
Um, so what?
I feel like posting Rimbaud's Bad Blood for some reason but I'll refrain.
Is it time to start euthanising the terminally ill?
Wash your dirty mouth out. Enough of these sexual undertones.
............EUROPE..."The Flaw"
Easy.....
Private Central Parasites,ooopps I mean bankers.
Attach interst to money to bring into the system.....That can NEVER be paid back...????
Who come up with that dumb idea...?
Better yet,who allows it to happen...???
Huh..????
Where do they get this money...?
Could we not just go get dome from where they do...????
GERMANY, the DISGRACE of Europe
...the barbarians, who forced beautiful Europe to get down Zeus’“back” and made her a prostitute ...the unworthy Europeans, who in 1945 “took Europe down” from “Mount Olympus” and in 2012 relinquished “enslaved” Europe to the Phoenician loan sharks.
Germans are proved to be the easy solution to breach Europe’s door. Whoever wishes to “set foot” on Europe and demolish it, the only thing he has to do is to “fool” the Germans. For a second time in less than fifty years, Europe’s idiots become the victims of foreigners and they serve their interests at the expense of Europe...
http://eamb-ydrohoos.blogspot.com/2012/02/germany-disgrace-of-europe.html
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The German traitors of Europe along with the Phoenicians from Asia may have forced Europe to get down from the "back” of the Greek “bull”, but it remains to be seen how they shall pull it through with the “bull”.
Authored by PANAGIOTIS TRAIANOU
So many words, day after day for years now, so much analysis most of which has to be wrong because it can't all be correct, and so little hope of a positive outcome, partly because even the most positive outcome now means hardship for the people.
I look at the population of Greece with real sadness because the average Greek is not a crook and had nothing to do with the cooking of the books that got Greece into the eurozone and they have no say in whether to stay in or get out, but every one of them will be badly hurt no matter what happens at this point, most already have been.
For the birthplace of democracy they seem not to know what the word means now that the "Troika" hand picked ministers are running the nation. Papademos said a few days ago that anybody on the cabinet that did not agree with him that Greece will remain in the eurozone at all costs will be dismissed, they have no place in government. "He said cabinet ministers who disagree have no place in the coalition government." http://www.rferl.org/content/greek_prime_minister_vows_to_push_through_austerity_del/24480392.html Five ministers resigned and they will be replaced with sycophants that will rubber stamp the decisions of the prime minister/troika/Merkel/GS. Four of the five were from the far right nationalist party. If there is no room for disagreement what is the point of democracy?
In one unlikely scenario the Greek government acts in the best interest of the people agreeing to withdraw from the EMU and return to the drachma, they restructure debt and essentially start over, that would not be an easy road or a short one, but it is not the doomsday torture by fire the PM is predicting either, he predicts food shortages, medicine shortages, oil and energy shortages. It won't be that bad, it will suck for everyone but nobody gets killed.
The other scenario is that the austerity downward spiral continues unabated until actual civil war breaks out. And every day it looks to me more and more like that is the goal of the Troika. Germany cannot realistically mobilize divisions of troops to occupy Athens without an invitation from the PM, even under a banner of the greater EU or NATO, but as local police and military forces are mobilized to quell unrest and force EMU monetary policy/law upon the people by the German picked government Merkel does not have to be seen to do the dirty work, that does not mean she is not giving the orders from her Wolf's Lair or a bunker somewhere under the Chancellery. But, as long as they maintain the theater of this being an internal Greek problem her hands are de facto not dirty.
The screws have been put to Greece hard enough that the outcome has to be civil war because the Greek government will never disobey it's German master and the terms being handed down have been and will be progressively harsher until civil war does come, only through violence will Papademos be removed from office, and since he is as much the German approved/appointed ruler as Herod was the Roman ruler of Jerusalem thousands of years ago, he will ask for and get foreign forces onto Greek soil to help restore order following his betrayal of the country, very much as Quisling did when he submitted Norway to Hitler. And if popular fury in Greece plays out to the point the people submit then so much the better because the price is so high that Germany is willing settle for submission as well, on that day they just raise the price of submission again.
Greece has already been (past tense) acquired, only rebellion by the Greeks can turn it around, but the power brokers inside Greece are essentially the Generalissimo Franco's of a German administered Greece, what we will see there eventually is the socialist left in a civil war with the fascist right. Within a year or two if not sooner we are going to see a replay of the Spanish Civil War on the Aegean. And because Greece is a member of the EU and EMU, as well as NATO and the UN, it will be all the excuse a multinational force needs to move in and enforce a fascist Greek slavery.
Pay attention because it is going to be repeated everywhere including here as debt slavery and corporate fascism wins, only after the fact will we realize we were debt slaves all along because only afterward will the truth be undeniable. By the way, welcome aboard Russia and China, you traded communist slavery for capitalist slavery, how do you like your new bosses in New York, Berlin, and London?
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