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Wed, 12/07/2011 - 13:31 | 1955343 homersimpson
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Congrats to the PPT folks - only they can save the bulltards from 100 point losses in the DJI based on rumors and simply utter crap.

Wed, 12/07/2011 - 13:34 | 1955356 SheepDog-One
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Bulltards should carry around a little Bernank troll doll in their pockets, pay homage to who is preventing them from massive losses daily by stroking his green hair.

Wed, 12/07/2011 - 13:53 | 1955414 redpill
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OT: Did the Russian ugly duckling just become a Black Swan?

Gorbie calls for new elections, emboldening anti-Putin protests




Wed, 12/07/2011 - 13:58 | 1955436 Prairie Fire
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Off topic but I just wanted to ask you a question Sheep...

Do you have a job? I read ZH a lot, and you're always on here. Either you're at work pretending to work while you're FBing or ZHing, or you're at home--which one is it?

All your comments are typically about the end of the world, hang the banksters, etc. I'm just thinking that you've become a little jaded because you were laid off perhaps?

And before you point it out--it's my day off, that's why I'm here today.

Wed, 12/07/2011 - 14:19 | 1955490 SheepDog-One
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Well Ive had 3 jobs, retired from 2 of them, and sold the other one which is a company I started. My 'job' now is managing my own assets, and warning people what is coming, which actually I have been doing for 20+ years, of course only recently being taken seriously about it at all, before 2007 was just 'consipracy kook'.

So anyway you seem to be worried about me punching a time card or something, like a good worker drone should? No I dont do that, I dont need to do that. The insinuated message in your comment seems to be 'I must be 'laid off' since I talk about 'doom and gloom' implying that if I was a good worker drone, then I wouldnt be warning about very bad things coming, and already here, if I only 'had a job'. 

Well thats just silly.

Wed, 12/07/2011 - 14:20 | 1955500 topcallingtroll
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Oops! I guess u answered in the middle of my dark rant.

I will be your agent for free. Hehe.

Wed, 12/07/2011 - 14:20 | 1955502 Prairie Fire
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Fair enough. I didn't mean to single you out.

Sometimes it's better to disconnect from this stuff, you know? You'll give yourself a heart attack trying to educate the stupid, and in the end what does anything matter anyway? We're nothing but rotting flesh, rich and poor alike.

Time to pack up my truck and go ice fishing, take care.


Wed, 12/07/2011 - 14:18 | 1955495 topcallingtroll
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Ok if sheep wont answer I will but in.

I retired from my "job" or business mentally a year ago. I have to show my face and go through the motions almost seven days a week without a break to keep up a mid six figure income, but I dont have to care or be engaged or put any quality into it except to make sure the money comes in. I hate what I do. And I dont do much of anything anymore but fill out some paperwork and pretend. I would be out of this joke of an industry except that i cant find anything to put me in the mid six figure range. Last year was my best year ever but I hate it and I no longer put any real work even though it looks like it because i show my face chat to people and fill out a little paperwork.

I am here as an escape and because my true love is finance and economics.

I bet sheep has a similar reason to be here even though we often disagree. What say you sheep?

Wed, 12/07/2011 - 14:25 | 1955512 Prairie Fire
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Thanks for being honest, I wonder how many other people out there act as you--not caring about quality, trying not to be engaged, getting the most cash for the least performance necessary.

I think that's part of the bigger problem here--there's lots of tradesmen out there, but too few craftsmen.

Good luck to you and your parasitic approach to your career.

Wed, 12/07/2011 - 14:47 | 1955601 topcallingtroll
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Anonymity breeds honesty.
Without an honest assessment of all the issues there can be no solutions.

I am looking for a way to downscale and maybe care again, but in my turbulent business you cant be part time or cut back, but you dont have to do anyrhing but fill out forms and go through the motions.

I am not sure anyone who finally made it into the one percent, the absolute bottom of the one percent though, woyld be willing to give it up even if he thinks it is a big joke.

So I am not concerned if there are criticisms. Hell I am the only honest guy in my business. At least I recognize it is a joke that provides no value but is entirely rent extracting.

Those who might criticise my choices ought to put themselves in my shoes, run my business for a while, and see if they would do different than me.

Wed, 12/07/2011 - 15:03 | 1955655 topcallingtroll
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And the epiphany i produced nothing of real value ocurred only a year ago, that i benefit from a highly specialized knowledge in a complexly rwgulated area of consultation. I didnt start out thinking i wanted extract rents due to huge barriers and complex regulations, but that is where i ended up. For a while I thought I produced something of value.

Wed, 12/07/2011 - 14:09 | 1955476 Instant Wealth
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Damn' hopium rallies ...

Why not have a "Zerohedge Bernanke Voodoo Doll Set" ?

Wed, 12/07/2011 - 13:32 | 1955346 Triple A
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I'm tired of gold and silver following whatever the market is doing. We now see the market creeping back up again. The recovery is on the way!!

Wed, 12/07/2011 - 13:39 | 1955364 SheepDog-One
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Silver and gold, manipulated like mad...thats why Im an investor in other metals like guns and ammo, those arent swinging wildly or controlled by bankster ass hats.

Not saying I DONT own gold and silver, just sick of looking at their total hands-on manipulation.

Wed, 12/07/2011 - 13:34 | 1955357 ZeroPower
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Saw tons of flow this morning in XOver as there were bids at 700 and just under. Nothing like scooping up a super liquid (not to mention lower b/a compared to the 10bp a piece you would pay in the last weeks) for this great hedge.

XOver back over 800 as per friday's flop seems not at all unlikely.

Wed, 12/07/2011 - 13:37 | 1955369 vegas
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ES, XAUUSD, and WTI Oil have started to decouple from the previous weeks. At least for this week, the tick-for-tick up/down action has been much different.



Wed, 12/07/2011 - 13:39 | 1955374 SheepDog-One
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No problem, Robo will be along shortly after finding some stock that is up and will post it here all giddy and giggling like a little girl pretending he owns it.

Wed, 12/07/2011 - 13:43 | 1955390 CvlDobd
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What are the odds it is First Solar?

Wed, 12/07/2011 - 14:38 | 1955567 topcallingtroll
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Aww. Be nice to robo.

You know we would all miss him if he went away.

I still miss satansanus. He was one smart and smartass jewboy.

Wed, 12/07/2011 - 13:40 | 1955378 razorthin
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Overbought bichez.  Beware.

Wed, 12/07/2011 - 13:44 | 1955394 Eally Ucked
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Who are the investors?

Wed, 12/07/2011 - 13:48 | 1955402 junkyardjack
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Taxpayers, they are the ones taking the risk

Wed, 12/07/2011 - 13:49 | 1955406 firstdivision
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Just a couple more points til we're green.  This market is just plain retard.  Not a single fundamental to support these levels. 

Wed, 12/07/2011 - 14:01 | 1955448 vegas
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You could be right. But.........

Is the market [US stocks] overvalued if B. Hussein Soetero is a one-term Prez W/Repub Congress that does something?

Is the market overvalued if the banksta's W/politicos find any credible solution to Euro Crisis?

Is the market overvalued if PM's get shellacked in the coming months and sell off?

I could go on, and I'm not saying I have any clue to the above, but I do know one thing; I have no idea what encompasses "fundamentals" for the market.



Wed, 12/07/2011 - 13:54 | 1955410 SheepDog-One
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What happened to OUR 'dire emergency need for QE3' that was all over the frantic headlines only a few weeks ago? Now all is well? Why?

Yet they will not, or cannot, allow even a BIT of equity market dip, to show ANY need at all for any QE. Its all-out market pumping anytime they can, now clownishly reduced to 'Europe closes, US rises' utter bullshit correlation...many puzzle pieces are just not fitting at all here. This whole thing stinks so bad I need to hang little green tree air fresheners on my monitor.

Wed, 12/07/2011 - 13:56 | 1955429 firstdivision
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HYG and the 10Y seem to be calling ES bullshit.

Wed, 12/07/2011 - 13:58 | 1955440 RobotTrader
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I know you are still long FAZ, TZA, and TRX

and you bought guns and ammo instead of retail stocks

So sorry to hear that

Lost opportunity is a bitch

Wed, 12/07/2011 - 14:05 | 1955461 homersimpson
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I'm sure I speak for all of ZH - minus the bulltard trolls that come by from time to time: You're extremely arrogant for a guy whose reputation here basically consists of posting hot chicks, showing after-the-fact charts, and always typing out after-the-fact predictions.

Yes, I'm long FAZ.. but if the only hope of the US stock market rising is some eediot PhD coming to the rescue and print money making the USD worthless - I'll be buying FAZ for a while. I guess 2008 was just a distant memory for you every time the market gets artificially spiked for 100 points each day.

Your words of "lost opportunity is a bitch" will be well remembered at the next market crash around the corner.

Wed, 12/07/2011 - 14:23 | 1955509 SheepDog-One
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Not only that, but Robo's last firm market call where he was all-in at DOW 12,700 for that 'debt ceiling resolution' runnup to the moon...is still 500 points underwater.

Wed, 12/07/2011 - 14:26 | 1955503 SheepDog-One
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Huh....thats weird, I've never 'been long' any of those things...I dont know what youre talking about. I never claimed to own any of those things ever, try to find a post of mine that says otherwise? Go ahead.

BTW...hows your big 'oil plunge' call from this morning doing? You put money on that call I'm sure, right?


Wed, 12/07/2011 - 14:47 | 1955597 Snakeeyes
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Look at Germany, the powerhouse. Even their numbers are declining. And Italy and Belgium's number stunk this morning.


Rumble on The Rhine – Uncertainty About The Eurozone Treaty (Italy, Spain and Belgium Yields UP)



Wed, 12/07/2011 - 15:05 | 1955662 Georgesblog
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Treading on thin ice, in the dark, is always unnerving. I have always seen market sentiment as being more ignorant than brave. There is no more insecure footing than borrowed debt. That fear surfaces every day, in the markets.


Wed, 12/07/2011 - 15:10 | 1955679 ebworthen
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J.P. Morgue asset manager on CNBC this morning:

"The U.S. stock market is back to even for 2010, it's amazing, time to buy stocks."



The biggest central bank in the world props equities with $15 Trillion + and it is "amazing" that the market is up 0% on the year, and still behind 2008?

Please send me whatever you are smoking!

No wait...I prefer to not be delusional...or a liar.

Wed, 12/07/2011 - 15:13 | 1955696 SheepDog-One
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He left out the context, that is while stocks may be back to even for 2010....big deal....stocks are also back to mid 1990's levels as well. So 'time to buy stocks' based on that? Pure cheerleading lunacy.

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