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As Everything Disconnects And Everything Is Soaring, Morgan Stanley Issues A Warning
The latest report from Morgan Stanley's Graham Secker can be summarized simply as follows: i) in January everything has disconnected as traditional linkages between asset classes have broken down, ii) also in January every major asset class (equities, treasurys, gold, oil) was up materially, iii) such a phenomenon has been seen only 5 times in the past 5 years, iv) a double digit decline followed 3 of the past 4 such surges. Then again, as Bob Janjuah lamented earlier, when a bunch of bespectacled economists who have never held a real job in their academic careers since transplanted with banker blessings to various central bank buildings, and who continue to plan the fate of the world in secrecy (a fate that can be summarized as follows: CTRL+P), as the only marginal decision makers, who really cares anymore?
From MS:
Breadth of positive returns across asset classes is rare …
Reading the January version of our global cross-asset strategy team’s excellent ‘Global In The Flow’, it struck us just how unusual performance trends were last month. While we’re all aware that we’ve just witnessed the best start to the year in equities since 1994, what was more interesting to us was the sheer breadth of positive performance across a wide array of assets. Effectively, the only major asset to fall in value in January was the dollar, and the only other laggards we could see were corn, coffee, coal and natural gas.
… and has often preceded equity market corrections
Unfortunately, the report in question hasn’t been in existence long enough for us to see just how rare such a breadth of positive performance is. So we have screened the past five years to identify periods of coinciding monthly price appreciation in the S&P, Treasuries, Oil and Gold. As shown in Exhibit 1, January 2012 was only the fifth month in the past five years when all four of these major asset classes have risen in unison. More interesting, on three of these four prior occasions that month proved to be a significant peak in equities and was followed by a substantial double-digit decline.
The traditional relationship between equities, treasuries and gold has broken down in recent months
While this analysis doesn’t guarantee that the market is about to suffer a reversal, it probably does reflect an abundance of liquidity plus rising investor optimism that this liquidity can lift asset prices across the board. Exhibit 3 and Exhibit 4 chart the longer-term performance of equities relative to USTs and to gold, and both clearly show a breakdown in the relationship in recent months. Of course, it is possible this gap can close through either falls in stocks or declines in the other assets, but we think it is unlikely this disconnect will continue for very long.
We see the breadth of recent strong performance as a warning sign
While we believe Exhibit 1 is a powerful argument to position for a market pullback, investors should note that this rule-of-thumb was less compelling in prior years. For example, although it gave correct sell signals in June 2000 and August 2002, it also gave a number of false sell signals during 2003 and at the end of 2004, as shown in Exhibit 2. We believe the macro environment going forward is more akin to the last five years than the preceding decade, and hence consider this signal is an important warning sign; however, we acknowledge that others may take a different view. [yes, like ChairSatan]
Speculators are bullish on equities, bonds and oil …
In seeking corroborating evidence to support the rule-of-thumb suggested by Exhibit 1, we have analysed CFTC positioning across similar asset classes. Exhibit 5 plots CFTC net speculative longs as a % of open interest for the NASDAQ (historically this metric has been a good predicator of European equity performance), US treasuries and the oil price. Within the chart the grey shading indicates areas when investors were net long all three asset classes based on a rolling 3-month moving average basis. To illustrate its efficacy for stocks Exhibit 6 then shows the S&P and MSCI Europe with the same periods again shaded grey.
… which has provided strong sell signals over the last decade
If anything, we think Exhibit 6 suggests the CFTC analysis is even more powerful than that shown in Exhibit 1, as there do not appear to be any false sell signals (although it was a little early at the tail end of 2010) even when we take the analysis back to 1999. Further, Exhibit 7 details some standard performance analysis around this data – for example, since July 1999 the average 6-month return from MSCI Europe has been 0% and the probability the market rises (hit ratio) is 54%. However, when we measure performance from periods when net longs were present across the three asset classes, we find the average subsequent 6-month return was -6.6% with a hit ratio of just 19%.
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I cry a little each time I read a story saying "speculators" or "investors" are pushing up governemnt bond prices.
yes...and whenever bernanke points out the yield curve showing that inflation expectations aren't high, but it is only so flat because he is buying them all
thats right. So what happens in June when he stops? My guess is either huge correction will have happened so the dumb money flees to treasuries and bails him out or we get QE llaunched behind the scenes.
QE is already going on behind the scenes, but they don't publicly acknowledge it, or call it QE.
operation "twist" is QE, dawg
by definition
there is more than 1 type of QE, ok? it (twist) is also
You have to be an idiot to think that they don't have a trading desk.
I wonder how much of the "market" is buried in the Fed's books.
listen, you styooopid fukface:
you are more intelligent than others b/c you "think the FED gas a trading desk"? good4U, asswipe!
If it's inflation: prices will go up due to more money and credit in the system. Some things will go up faster than others.
If it's delation: some prices will go down more so than others.
I contend that gold will do better in both environments (gold would go up FASTER than inflation and would fall more slowly in deflation). Gold is what people will WANT when things get ugly.
It's deflation already. Most things, like gasoline, houses, and food have actually gone down in price since the sixties, if priced in gold.
Fuck MS, GS wannabes with a first-row seat on .. what? ... New Year's Eve? Too many bridge and tunnel boys and girls at MS. They deserve to go bankrupt like Europe.
Ctrl+P is so last millennium. Now it's Ctrl+C > Ctrl+P
hmmm....even that is last millennium.
What's the trackpad gesture to print?
You whip out your dick and make one long swipe.
In Bernake's case he uses an industrial water pump made by GE in the hopes it gets long enough to even register.
AUGH!
sticky money, I dont think so.
Now should be CTRL+ALT+DELETE !!!!!!!!!!!
Format c:
And really, we all know actual printing has nothing to do with it. Key punch those number pads...
The 10yr closed out 2011 at 1.8%. It is up around 2% right now. I thought treasuries had sold off (slightly anyway).
Disconnect for a month is one thing, disconnect for six months another and interest rate rise or even volatility is... a jubilee.
If someone knows the S&P 500 price target in Bernank's mind.
50/50 we're going up/down tomorrow ;)))) , honestly I couldn't care less, Phyzzz It IZZZZZ!
100% we are going up and down tommorow. There fixed it for you.
Gee thx Bud, I gave you an up arrow, I like people with some sort of humor :)))!
Off Topic: from Yahoo Finance: Spain sending military planes to retrieve treasure
"It ruled out the idea of the treasure being sold to ease Spain's national debt."
Guess we know what the bankster's kids are getting for gifts this year.
Grave damage to justice, freedom and entrepreneurship is being done by the US court system here.
Once again, the SCOTUS falls down in defense of justice and the Constitution.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Swan_Project
Spain stole it from Peru. Now they are stealing it again!
I'm long federal reserve notes, as they make great ass wipes when you are on safari!
So it has happened 5 times in the last 5 years and 3 out of 4 times was followed by a double digit decline. What about the 5th time? I understand the sentence is correct, but it leaves me hanging.
The 5th time is now is how I understood it. (My first zh post!!)
They are presumably counting the current event with yet to be determined outcome as one of those 5 events. We only know the outcome of the 4 previous events unless you have some sort of advanced technology we're not aware of.
The dollar is going to take a beating when the Greek bailout goes through. The weakness in the Euro seems to be over the concern that the Euro will fall apart, not how many Euros are being printed. Once it is made clear that the Troika will backstop anything and everything, the Euro should soar, the dollar should get crushed, and silver should jump.
TheSilverJournal.com
Sure, now how is that going to work out for the average european or exports coming out of the E.Z.?
In the end, very poorly as the entire western world goes bust and the wealth of the world ends up in Asia. But for now, the Average European will be helped by a strengthening Euro.
TheSilverJournal.com
Agree the lastest shorts in the EUR will get nuked, but next week Super Mario dumping upwards of 1 Trillion EUR into the system - not likely fuel for mutli handle sustained rally in the ccy....
I don't follow how the dollar will get crushed. Why would people rush to a euro that's just lost the first of 5 PIIGS countries? Wouldn't this then portend an exodus from the eurozone of the others and unleash a bunch of yet to be sorted through chaos on the financial world? You would then be left with a currency that is supported by an economy of unknown size and health for the forseeable future. If anything, such a scenario would be good for the dollar.
By setting the precedent of bailouts for eternity, there's less worry over the Euro falling apart. It's that worry over the Euro crumbling that's propping up the dollar right now. Besides, the dollar is fundamentally in much worse shape than the Euro.
TheSilverJournal.com
So if the dollar is such a mess, then who are these swap lines really for and why do they seem to be propping up the euro?
Speculators are bullish on everything because everything is supposed to increase in value forever. The years of 2000 and 2008 were not bubbles being popped, they were just delusional periods where investors made a mistake in thinking stocks were overvalued. If anything they were wrong and stocks were massively undervalued. The Nasdaq should have doubled from 5000 instead of falling.
It isn't wrong to assume that any stock certificate you hold, real estate investment you made, or commodity contract you bought will double in value every single year. In fact they should double very single month. If Select Comfort can increase in value by 10,000% over three years, Apple should increase in value by 1 million percent over that same period!!!!!
This absolute insanity pretty much describes the mindset of any permabull I ever met. I remember when I told my friend to sell his house in 2006 after it tripled in value. He told me, "Fuck no way man the realtors are all saying the property values are all going to $1 million plus in my area. Doubling again in five years."
I asked a rational question, "How much do you make a year man, $80k. Can you afford a million dollar house?" He said, "Of course not." I then said," Well then how is anyone like you ever going to be able to afford to buy your house for $1 million." He then said, "Because they will sell their house and make enough money to buy my house. Then I will have enough money to buy any house I want."
I gave up.
Speculators are good people. They assume the risk the real goods producers want to unload.
But when the Fed floods the market with printed debt as Slewie mentioned above, nothing matters.
Maybe I will never understand... And maybe thats a good thing.
from tyler's intro: iii) such a phenomenon has been seen only 5 times in the past 5 years, iv) a double digit decline followed 3 of the past 4 such surges
from the MS piece: but we think it is unlikely this disconnect will continue for very long.
from slewie: hey, shitheads @ MS! how many times in the past 5 years was the FED goosing T-prices w. ZIRP + Twist?
(answer) : zer0
so, maybe it IS a bit "defferent" this time at least so far; don't fight the FED!
these fuking shithead bankster/broker/insurance salespersons will stoop to anything to try to make a buck off a rube!
they may be right, but it would be for the wrong "reasons" imo
Agree with everything except for "don't fight the Fed" unless one is broker owned by big banks which are government banks under private management because they can't exist on their own.
Anything Fed does leads to hikes in food and energy prices without hike in real wages. Remember Arab spring?
Translation of the article above:
Morgan Stanley sees a big move ahead. Therefore, please sell all us your crap in fear, so that we can buy it on the cheap and make an even bigger profit.
have u considered changing yer handle to "slewie the pi-rant"? :) always enjoy yer posts......
Even in a bull market pullbacks occur. We are overdue. The market never travels in a straight line for long and rarely repeats itself.
I don't like the "decoupled" argument... all these indices go up, and go down. Say, for instance, that gold decoupled years ago... the other indices would rise and fall and do their thing while gold was off doing its decoupled thing. Periodically they would randomly move in the same direction as gold, but its the same coincidence as a broken clock being right twice a day. It doesn't mean anything, only that the already-decoupled indices just happened to move in the same direction.
In my VERY EXTREME HUMBLE opinion we 'll sell the news tomorrow...or not?!?! Or we'll have an up market followed by a donw market, then by a very extreme up to going down market, eh?!?! Catch my drift?! If we're in Phyzz we couldn't care lezzz!!!
Total bullshit article. They just want to sucker you in on a buch of bearish puts. Laughing all the way to the bank.
Have no idea when it all comes to an end, although I think except for a minor correction or two not much happens until after the election. Then again, the bond market is acting a little different lately. At some point.....
What can possibly go wrong.? Everything's up, dollars down Happy Days are here again......................................
Take a look at Nickels in your pocket. 100 dollars = 146 melt value if Nickels were no longer part of our currency.
Exhibit 2 suggests that a correlated market following a capitulated market (in this case summer 2011/fall 2011) will lead to higher prices?
Dec 02-Dec 03: coming off the bottom, it occured 4 times resulting in higher prices
Late Dec03 : coming off a "v" shaped bottom - lead to higher prices
Mid- Dec 05 and Late Dec 05 : coming off a "v" shaped bottom - lead to higher prices
Late Dec 08: coming off V bottom led to higher prices
but then again, what's a bottom?
I guess thats why they call me the bagholder
These are anything but normal times so the previous 5 cycles are bullshit. Gold will be the last man standing when all this orther bullshit unravels.
Throw another log on the short pile.
Look at the latest RSI on the S&P 500. It has been overbought for the last 3 months. Its going to tank hardcore after this massive rally of speculation. The writing is on the wall all the top stocks for this year were last years garbage. How did they all the sudden become good "investments". Is it manipulation or pure stupidity? Could the trading bots gone full retard from a new code?
Market sentiment remains bearish, therefore, look higher in the short term. A significant correction is likely going to be delayed until there are more bulls in the markets. The downside risk has been priced in for the short term. There may be a larger risk of a pop to the upside for the S&Ps. The markets have room to run higher. Here is a Market Report with a look at the ES, DX, NZDUSD, and USDSEK. Some clear trends have emerged. bit.ly/woRoas
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