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Ex-Goldman Director Will Turn Himself In To FBI, To Face Criminal Charges

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Is it safe to say that the Goldman love affair with the government is officially over? From Reuters: "Former Goldman Sachs director Rajat Gupta will surrender to the FBI on Wednesday to face criminal charges, a person familiar with the investigation said. Gupta was named as an unindicted co-conspirator in hedge fund founder Raj Rajaratnam's trial earlier this year. He has denied wrongdoing. Rajaratnam was sentenced to 11-years in prison this month. Gupta's attorney, Gary Naftalis, did not immediately respond to a call seeking comment." Perhaps it is also safe to say that the war between Obama and Wall Street is now official. Of course, we give Obama about 24 hours before the economy tanks, the stock market implodes, the great unwashed see their meager 201k's converted into 100.5k's, and decide to #OccupyTheWhiteHouse. In other words, our money is not on the administration on this one. In fact, when the smoke settles, we expect a few extra tentacles from 200 West to penetrate even deeper into the three farcical branches of government of this once non-banana republic.


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Tue, 10/25/2011 - 21:02 | 1810611 Seasmoke
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Blankfiend is next !!!!!!!!!!!

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 21:13 | 1810644 optimator
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Don't be silly, Lloyd is not Indian!

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 21:17 | 1810656 Divided States ...
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haha, yeah blankfein aint some curry belching crook.

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 21:55 | 1810812 Ahmeexnal
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Better doublecheck those goddamn book repositories overlooking the golf course .  Just sayin.

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 23:30 | 1811148 flacon
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Does anybody know what Sandy Berger stuffed in his pants when he stole those documents? Does anybody remember Sandy Berger? LOL! That guy got off scott free! 

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 23:53 | 1811209 redpill
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Almost as well as I remember Sandy Weill! lol


BTW Tylers, the last 4 sentences of this post were nothing short of financial bloggery porn, very satisfying!

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 00:02 | 1811224 jeff montanye
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what was it sandy stuffed?  i'll believe it is real when, shall we say, other people are jailed.  no i won't.   obama strikes me as less ethical re: presidential pardons than bush 2.  he reeks of bush 1 and clinton on this.

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 22:52 | 1811023 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Nope, he white.  His bloodline belches curry only when his ancestors were taking over with the East India Co.

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 21:19 | 1810663 ali-ali-al-qomfri
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he might not be In-dian , but he is IN-aworldofhurt

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 23:31 | 1811156 flacon
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I don't get it. I don't know... jokes like these always seem to go above my head. Why did the chicken cross the road? To get to the other side! Hahhahaha! Bet it's been decades since you heard the original of THAT ONE! 

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 04:23 | 1811427 Zero Govt
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reason being you've not heard an old joke for decades is people tend not to repeat old jokes too often on account of them being er, 'old'

having said that people seem still to like Govt and think despite Centuries of complete farce they're really gonna get something fresh this time 


Tue, 10/25/2011 - 21:19 | 1810667 JW n FL
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Talking about token fall guys! LOL!!

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 21:34 | 1810721 israhole
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Oh yeah, now they're cracking down.  As long as they don't get any Jews, the scam can roll on.

Wtf, Madoff did nothing but deposit investors' checks into his accounts for 50 fucking years, and his son-in-law as the investigator at SEC?  

Wake up citizens of the world, you've been JEWED!

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 21:37 | 1810743 redcorona
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Fingers in ears, eyes shut, lalalalalala

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 21:46 | 1810780 buzzsaw99
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Preach it amigo! A member of "the tribe" only goes down when they screw their own!

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 21:51 | 1810803 nmewn
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"A member of "the tribe" only goes down when they screw their own!"

Gupta...Gupta...where have I heard that name before?

Ah yes...Hillary! soup for you!!!

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 21:57 | 1810824 buzzsaw99
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mama sed [/forest gupta]


Wed, 10/26/2011 - 00:27 | 1811271 Element
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Lately my hands subconciously start reaching toward any sound or image of Hilary and make a sort of choak-grip. Dunno what that's all about.

Give the woman a cigar.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 04:27 | 1811429 Zero Govt
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Hilary likes cigars ...too?

Does Bullshit Bill ever get a chance to smoke one i wonder!

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 21:47 | 1810791 The Shootist
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The Jewish faith has nothing to do with crime, corruption and greed dickweed. There are bad apples among any group. Of course there seems to be a large contigent of 'occupiers' who hate jews. But they are mostly brainwashed communist obots who enjoy wallowing the destruction of socialism.

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 21:53 | 1810804 israhole
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So speak up, chump.  I'm not the criminal.  Start naming some names, or you're complicit!

The goyim are the 99%.

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 22:18 | 1810891 The Shootist
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Here's a few names: F. Roosevelt, W. Wilson, Neville Chamberlain, Keynes, LBJ, Nixon, Ted Kennedy, Bill Ayers, Michael Moore, Barney Frank, .. even Bush. Each should be scrutinized on an INDIVIDUAL basis.


I'm sorry IsraHole, but you anti-semites sound ridiculous and give this site and many others a bad name. Go crawl back to the hole from whence you came. The silverseekr forum for example is full of Jew haters, which is why it's so discredited.

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 22:27 | 1810920 buzzsaw99
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...I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Joos, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan." (Revelation 2:9 KJV)

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 22:55 | 1811029 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Christianity, by these orders today, is a war cult just like the Israel of old, whatever Jesus preached.....

Religion has been bastardized....

Learn to read between the lines.

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 23:40 | 1811178 lincolnsteffens
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Mr. L H

I don't think those ass holes have a vocabulary that includes words much more than 5 or 6 letters long. This universal hatred of cultures people have no understanding of is just something we all have to deal with sooner or later. I fail to understand why such a superb intellectual and truth driven web site like ZH doesn't ban religious and ethnic hate mongering. It has nothing to do with the financial markets.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 00:05 | 1811226 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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I fail to understand why such a superb intellectual and truth driven web site like ZH doesn't ban religious and ethnic hate mongering.

This is Fight Club.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 00:12 | 1811241 jeff montanye
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this particular brand of religious and ethnic hate mongering has, uniquely, a great deal to do with the financial markets (oh with a real historical and parochial bent the determined could make a case for the chinese diaspora in the east, but you know what i mean).  that usury prohibition and the reading of the torah and all.  the creation of israel didn't help, especially with hitler as an unwitting mentor.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 06:16 | 1811473 nmewn
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We don't ban people around here for being stupid. They have a right to speak...they just don't have a right to be believed.

Besides...some of its pretty good comedy.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 01:10 | 1811322 LeonardoFibonacci
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Yesterday a ZH'er reminded me that a Jew and a Zionist should be distinguished as they are very different.  This was pointed out to me in the article concerning the rise of another Hitler in the present world confusion. 

I reminded this fellow ZH'er that Hitler did not give a fuck about the distinguishment of a jew vs. a Zionist, Hitler loaded both of these characters on a train wagon headed for Auschwitz.  The ovens that were used did not distinguish them either.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 02:15 | 1811365 Davalicious
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The holocaust didn't happen. Being sent to a work camp in those days could be a death sentence due to communicable disease. Even the New York Holocaust Museum 95% of Zyklon B (the most popular pesticide) was used for de-lousing clothes. Today we can't imagine that lice were transmitting diseases that hundreds of thousands of people died from. Zyklon B was used as a life saving measure. It isn't even suitable for a gas chamber.

The holocaust was invented by US intelligence and zionist jews. Many of the horrors we learned about decades ago like human skin lamp shades, human hair matresses, shruknen heads, movies showing piles of bodies, movies showing people apparently decapitated are not shown any more because they are discredited, even by Jewish authorities. Auschwitz used to claim that 3 million died. They changed the plaque to say 1 million.

Check out this web site which references original material which is online at Jewish sites or American universities.

The holocaust is now taught in schools. Holocaust denial is a crime in many places. These measures come in very quickly once Jews are in power. Almost immediately the Bolskeviks brought in Anti-semetic laws. They wanted to take over the Soviet government and to prevent anyone fighting back.


Wed, 10/26/2011 - 04:36 | 1811435 AlienGusto
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Well, gee, if that's all true and you non-Jews keep letting a tiny minority of a few million people take advantage of you, then you really are just a bunch of dumbasses.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 06:52 | 1811493 redcorona
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It really is like you read from a script.

Goy: Jews control the banks!
Jew: Thats just an anti-semitic canard!
Goy: No really look, they are all Jews.
Jew: Thats because we work hard.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 07:35 | 1811582 Element
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" ... if that's all tru and you non-Jews ... ... then you really are just a bunch of dumbasses."


Already you've revealed what you are and that your under the impression you're superior. Thanks for clearing that up, and so quickly too.

From your writing and wording I suppose you're a teenager who has discovered that a great chunk of humanity does indeed have some terminal issues with your tribe's attitude, actions, and protracted history of social, financial and political infiltrations and international parasitism. You're thus reactive, and believe these are imaginary, or else true but justifyable, or else, "so fucking what".

You have been versed and thoroughly conditioned to respond accordingly so you do, most probably with the usual pseudo-secularist nationalist zionist zealot version of the "modern Jew" mental-modelling. It's a very popular mental model these days, and the most competitive. We're rather familiar with it, in here, and its many structural chasms and flaws of logic.

I say 'pseudo' secular, because you are in fact not secular, when all is said and done. That's ok, I'm a bit like that at times. However, you are a rigid zionist bigot (and are fairly certain you're not, but you certainly are) with a major (and invisible to you) 'chip' on your shoulder.

I am an anti-zionist bigot, because I directly discovered your 'base-Joo' mental-model's absurdist and homicidal attitudes, and self-justifying sociopathic criminal racist behaviours. I understand how you got this way, I've seen how it takes place.

You've been seeded with profoundly entrenched racial and cultural prejudices that are by now fully implicit, so that you accept it's whole rationale, without question, and what it constantly informs you of what you are. It's almost undetectable to yourself as you can successfully pretend you're nothing of the kind, but otherwise, it's completely obvious to any third party who observes you.

Congrats, you've been fitted with an approved pseudo-secular Joo mental-model, and your place in the world, with respect to the 'others', has been pre-seeded and conveniently semi-defined, so you can fill in the blanks with the appropriate answers and conclusions. In fact, it's rather clever how they get you to program yourself like that, so that basic mental-model becomes 'you'.

You're just clear enough to understand that nothing you can say here is likely to hoodwink almost anyone on zh. There are several others of your mental-model here on any given day, of various ages and life experience.

Hello there! <*waves to the shiny new joo*>

Welcome to fight-club bitch!

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 08:57 | 1811869 i-dog
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Well done! You take "Go hard, or go home!" to a new level. Most enjoyable. :)

Thu, 10/27/2011 - 01:57 | 1816164 AlienGusto
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*snort* Big waste o' breath there, buddy, but I appreciate the effort. I can only imagine how many hours you and your thesaurus spent together, valiantly trying to sound intellectual. So you know, I'm a half-breed, or "daywalker" if you prefer (we're more scary that way. Plus it's much easier to suck the dollars out of your pocket and corrupt your peace-loving, wide-eyed innocent children when the sun's up).

Can I assume that since you spent a lot of time making up a bunch o' crap instead of addressing my hypothesis that you simply... can't? Are you tacitly admitting "your people" are dumbasses? If so, I can't wait to prey on you and your dumb descendants for all eternity. You make it soooo easy. "Shazam! They done been foolin' us gentiles for near 2000 years, by my count! G-o-l-l-y!"

Oh, since we're getting acquainted, what's your DSM-IV diagnosis, if you don't mind me asking?

Thu, 10/27/2011 - 03:42 | 1816271 Hephasteus
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This is kind of funny. What's funny about it is I got involved on a thread about the cern speed of light test with a bunch of technogeeks.

I was really fucking rude about the dumbass scientific bitches that infest cern. I brought up the satelitte system and precisely how it works. I brought up the statiscial resolution of the cesium clocks used to time it. I watched dumbases point me to cern fucktards attempting to explain their experiment. They mumbled around stumbled around butchered the goddamn direct communication laws. Total fucking waste of time listening to their stupid obfuscating dumbass shit.

A moderator brought up something involving israel and I mentioned israel. They then beratted me for my pseudo scientific and bizarre religious views. Then 2 days later it get's mentioned that the fucktards running the experiment didn't take into account the relative motion of the gps satellites while I was calling europeans to email bomb the shit out of cern for making up bullshit experiments with bullshit results just because they want a higher resolution gps satellite system.

So I'm left with a stinging label of being an out of touch misunderstanding retard who just happens to be high functioning or something because I went precisely the fuck to the bottom line of bullshit.

And here I sit listening to your crap. You're anevil lying killing using abusing motherfucker. You get berated for being an evil lying killing using abusing motherfucker and express your superiority by being a sucessful evil lying killing using abusing motherfucker. You are the definition of circular logic.

What you fail to impliment into your circular logic is it all ends up with the entire planet telling you to shut the fuck up. Which gives you around 0 percent chance of being an agency of change. Which gives you about a 0 percent chance of creating your world where you are the worst of humanity pretending to be the best of humanity because it works.

"Oh, since we're getting acquainted, what's your DSM-IV diagnosis, if you don't mind me asking?"

You still don't get it. He's analyzing the fuck out of you. He knows who he's dealing with. You can't fucking head shrink him. Head shrinking involves a person trusting someone to analyze them. The goy are not lying on couches listening to you spout bullshit.

As he said. Welcome to fight club bitches. If one of us kicks your ass. Don't try to suck in more of us. We understand we are powerful, we understand we are smart. We understand we are strong and we do not need to gang up. So im gong to shut up an leave you to your chosen ass beater. Don't worry about picking the wrong one. You'll some how some way end up with just the right ass beater that you need.

I give the finger to 160 fucking scientists. Because they are my equal. He's going to beat the shit out of your psychological association of mind fucking jews because he's their goddamn equal. So don't go running to you're piss poor head fucking support group.

Fri, 10/28/2011 - 03:27 | 1820017 Element
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Then 2 days later it get's mentioned that the fucktards running the experiment didn't take into account the relative motion of the gps satellites while I was calling europeans to email bomb the shit out of cern for making up bullshit experiments with bullshit results just because they want a higher resolution gps satellite system.


LOL ... well done! I've had MANY similar debates with such institutionalised scientific wimps, who always mouth complete bullshit/failed and out-moded memes.

Most of these guys 'know' a lot of trivia but they remain not much brighter than a cabbage.

re the new-joo ... I don't think these silly things even realise the world's over them, they still think we're mesmerised by their childish mental trinkets ... gonna be funny when they realise we're wide awake.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 08:30 | 1811778 Astraea
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No.    The dumbasses are those people who think it is intelligent to lie and steal.      It is not.     It is simply low class and stupid.    That is the trouble with the Jews - they have no class, and they think that what is the most stupid of all behvior is actually clever!     I think that is REALLY being a dumbass.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 05:50 | 1811458 DogSlime
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The holocaust didn't happen. 

What about all the accounts from the people (not just Jews) who were in the camps?  They all assert that it did happen.  The precise numbers of how many actually died doesn't alter that fact that a horribly large number of people were shipped off to camps where they were starved to death or gassed en-masse.  Zyklon B was only one of the agents used.  Carbon Monoxide was another.  Are you saying that Carbon Monoxide was used as a de-lousing agent?

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 08:43 | 1811815 Astraea
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Look for the videos made by the brave and honest young Jewish man from California, David Cole.     He made two or three videos about Auschwitz.     There were NO homocidal gas chambers there nor on any German controlled soil,  ever.     Auzchiwtz was a big labour camp for the huge factories owned by IG Farben.    Auschwitz had several orchestras, a large theatre where they liked to stage comedies among other things, a post office where one could buy post cards and stamps and paper with whihc to write letters to post off from there.      There was a shop too.      They had a state of the art dentist and a good hospital.     For serious operations a famous surgeon from Berlin would attend.      There was a modern swimming pool with benches around it for people to watch competitions, playing fields - and a jail and a brothel.    It was a town.     You should find these and other videos on Youtube and on a webiste called  honestmediatoday.     There is also a webiste called       Also, read a book called "Perfidy" by Ben Hecht - who was Jewish.     It is about the Jew who ran the finances from Switzerland supposedly to rescue Jews from Hungary - and his great friend Eichman who was also a full Jew!

Fri, 10/28/2011 - 03:53 | 1820030 Element
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Are you saying that Carbon Monoxide was used as a de-lousing agent?


ha! ... er, yeah, actually, it was, for decades. Commonwealth Immigration Quarantine Stations, in Australia, used steam chambers to treat cloths, and carbon monoxide chambers to delouse sundry possessions and furniture, of European immigrants. It was routine practice.

I have seen such steam and gas chambers myself, they are preserved as Museum exhibits. It was well known in Europe and the colonies that carbonmonoxide was a very cheap and reliable killer of undesirable pests. It alone took time so it was sped up via the use of vacuum pumps to help thin the oxygen, and also accelerate the toxic and also suffocating effects of the carbonmonoxide.

I could imagine the Nazi's would rapidly realise they could scale this up to very cheaply get rid of rooms full of people.  Why use Zyklon-B to kill people in a 'gas chamber' when a diesel can run a vacuum pump to thin the air and the diesel's exhaust (or furnace gases) are pumped into the room?

Why bother to complicate it?

The Zyklon-B gas-chamber story is deeply suspect.


Tue, 10/25/2011 - 22:49 | 1811009 israhole
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So take that payout Israel offers to all Jews (at American taxpayers' expense), and "make aliyah".  Goyim are the 99%, and nobody cares cares any longer what you have to say, except those booking flights on El Al as we speak.




Tue, 10/25/2011 - 23:39 | 1811054 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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I have many friends that are Jewish.  They will find solice at the same rate as the rest of us.  None are in politics.  Those politicians, yes, they will burn in Hell.  But the common folk, they are Jewish just like the common are Christian, Muslim. 

We shouldn't be fighting such trivialities; fight the power, and besides, the power hungry are godless.

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 23:41 | 1811185 rocker
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I really never took sides on this issue. But there seems to be many corrupt jews who pay homage to their own.

Just like Bernanke supports his Bankster's Cartel to rule the world's money frauds at the expense of the unknowing.

Yes there is good and bad in all. But where the money goes the worse rule the world, as in Goldman Sachs.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 00:08 | 1811231 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Lehman and Bear were "Jew Banks".......

It isn't about that....

They worship one god....

That that has Power of this Earth....

That's all they care about.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 08:58 | 1811881 Astraea
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Imagine being told, over and over and over and over again, from BIRTH, that the whole World hates you - for no reason at all.     That is what they do t their own children!      They cripple them psychologically.    Imagine believing that the whle World hates you when you are just a little boy or litle girl1    Imagine what that does to you.     THAT is why the Jews are so sick.    They project their hatred onto all the rest of Humanity who are just baffled by this strange and pointless behavior - and have been for centuries.     The "leaders" of the Jews are psychopaths who use these poor deluded sheep who they deliberately keep terrified - and build walls just to emphasise what terrible danger they are in - when actually it is the rest of the World which is in danger from them.      They have about six or seven submarines cruising the oceans manacing the whole World.     They must be disarmed if we are to survive.      Read "The Wandering Who?"  by Gilad Atzmon.     Look it up at     Then read the best of all books on this nonsense "The Controversy of Zion."   by Douglas Reed.      God help us all if they are not stopped.

Did you know that Germany paid off her "debt" for the FIRST World War at last only this lasta March.     March 2011!

Didd you know that it was the Bolshevicks who murdered 22 thousand honorably surrendered officers of the Polish army in the Katyn Forest - but that the Jewish media has fooled the World into believing that it was the Germans who did that dispicable, brutal and unvicilized crime - against all of Humanity.     Stalin, a Georgian Jew ordered Beria, also a Georgian Jew, to murder all those noble men by shooting them in the back of the head as athy stood on the edge of huge trenches which had been dug out by bullldozers.



Wed, 10/26/2011 - 09:43 | 1812075 Use of Weapons
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I rarely get involved in the racial hatred on the board, given most of it is USA based. One lot of ignorant people claiming they're ethnically better than another is a very common and very persistent myth - although I do find it hilarious how bad your arguments are for it.


But, yes - if you're going to get all 'outraged' over Soviet crimes, at least get them right. Over 7,000 of the officer core were executed by a single man, and it was done in a basement, not on site.



I find people who don't even bother to get their basic facts correct somewhat tiresome. As for Auschwitz being a modern Butlins, now we all know you're an IDF troll.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 08:58 | 1811882 Astraea
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Imagine being told, over and over and over and over again, from BIRTH, that the whole World hates you - for no reason at all.     That is what they do t their own children!      They cripple them psychologically.    Imagine believing that the whle World hates you when you are just a little boy or litle girl1    Imagine what that does to you.     THAT is why the Jews are so sick.    They project their hatred onto all the rest of Humanity who are just baffled by this strange and pointless behavior - and have been for centuries.     The "leaders" of the Jews are psychopaths who use these poor deluded sheep who they deliberately keep terrified - and build walls just to emphasise what terrible danger they are in - when actually it is the rest of the World which is in danger from them.      They have about six or seven submarines cruising the oceans manacing the whole World.     They must be disarmed if we are to survive.      Read "The Wandering Who?"  by Gilad Atzmon.     Look it up at     Then read the best of all books on this nonsense "The Controversy of Zion."   by Douglas Reed.      God help us all if they are not stopped.

Did you know that Germany paid off her "debt" for the FIRST World War at last only this lasta March.     March 2011!

Didd you know that it was the Bolshevicks who murdered 22 thousand honorably surrendered officers of the Polish army in the Katyn Forest - but that the Jewish media has fooled the World into believing that it was the Germans who did that dispicable, brutal and unvicilized crime - against all of Humanity.     Stalin, a Georgian Jew ordered Beria, also a Georgian Jew, to murder all those noble men by shooting them in the back of the head as athy stood on the edge of huge trenches which had been dug out by bullldozers.



Wed, 10/26/2011 - 11:42 | 1812771 Fiat Money
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Wed, 10/26/2011 - 11:41 | 1812777 Fiat Money
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"Imagine being told, over and over and over and over again, from BIRTH, that the whole World hates you - for no reason at all. That is what they do t their own children! They cripple them psychologically"

 Astraea, you are correct about that.  Worse, the bible says that GENOCIDE by GOD is not only "permissable" - but something to emulated, copied, by "HIS CHOOSEN" people on earth! 

  EVERY Sunday school (whether Jewish or Christ-ian) that teaches the "Noah's Flood" story,  is teaching children that GOD NEEDS NO RHYME or REASON to WIPE OUT ENTIRE SECTORS of humanity!

    In humans, we would call such cold-blooded detached contempt for human life  "pathological" and "SOCIOPATHIC," but the  "religious" lesson is, "If G0O determines that some group of people are 'unworthy' then they may...and SHOULD.. indeed be EXTERMINATED, wipe from the earth."  (As Moses tried to exterminate the Midianites - his in-laws! - and as Joshua SUCCEEDED in EXTERMINATING the people of Jericho, and DOZENS of other towns and cities/kingdoms.)

 But you are incorrect about Stalin being Jewish. He had an abusive Georgian father, and his mother wanted him to go to Seminary and become a Georgian Orthodox Priest -

   However, there can be no doubt that some of Stalin's most willing executioners (mass-murderers) were Jewish, including  Lazar Kaganovich, "The Red wolf of the Kremlin" who is accused of being the mastermind and/or lead appartchik behind the intentional famine of Ukraine, the  the mass-murderous "holomodor" starvation famine -

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 11:20 | 1812659 Fiat Money
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I have a neighbor, who is Jewish, and is wa-ay behind on her mortgage payments... flat broke.   BECAUSE of the Greenspan/Bernanke/Fed/gs/jpm (rotchilds, et al) PREMEDITATED FINANCIAL RAPE of post- Cold War America (and Europe), she can't find decent work / jobs.

 (During the Cold War, they had to make a PRETENSE of "share the wealth" "TRICKLE DOWN"  wealth - or the unemployed, the SEGREGATED, the no-social-safety-net peons might start to think socialism/communism weren't so bad in comparison.)   

   HOWEVER, she will NEVER acknowledge the above: that Greenspan, Bernanke, rubin, summers, gensler, schapiro, blankfein,  are IN COMMAND of the (late) U.S.A. financial system, or that Netanyahu is far and away THE MOST POWERFUL POLITICIAN... IN AMERICA, and certainly in the U.S. Con-gress.

     And what money she does have over and above necessary living expenses, most certainly went  (goes( to "tribe" designated "charity" funds  - you know,  "keeping it in the family."   I hope she and other hard-strapped neighbors make it through the next couple of years, but until someone CONFRONTS the gs/jpm/fed VAMPIRE SQUID  HIJACKING of the late "Democratic" Party & Con-Gress,  it ain't gonna happen (end nicely...)

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 23:00 | 1811056 slewie the pi-rat
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@ the shoo-tist:  dude or dudette! 

calling a blogger a name (anti-semite) and following with "[you]...give this site (zeroHedge)...a bad name" isn't gonna cut it, here

too many zionist trolls keep popping up, ya know!

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 00:17 | 1811249 jeff montanye
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zionist trolls keep us in shape, like a speed bag.

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 22:48 | 1811005 lincolnsteffens
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You may not have been convicted of a crime but you have a criminal mind ass wipe.  Learn something about human genetics and the historical movement of ethnic groups from earliest recorded times. Where the fuck are you from that you escaped being a mixed blood mongrel denier of your own filthy mixed race family tree.  Oh I forgot you have total faith in the child buggering Catholic Church that used to give depraved people a pass into Heaven, if they paid enough.  Or maybe you are a follower of Pastor Pete the false prophet or let's see, you are probably related to some Jew or Slav that was raped by blond blue eyed Swedes who  swept down into Eastern Europe centuries ago. Why don't you get out of your isolated retarded world onto another continent so you can be treated like the Ugly American that you exemplify. I think you must be an inbred WASP Mongoloid.

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 22:57 | 1811041 disabledvet
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It is true...400 years of history and a hundred years ago there was a...but I digress.

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 23:23 | 1811117 israhole
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See, it's this Jewish vitriol we must confront.  This rat is begging to be in Israel and would probably jump at the chance if we were forced to pay his fare. Unfortunately, his fear won't allow him to leave the host, yet he cannot produvce anything of value to the rest of us 99%.


Wed, 10/26/2011 - 01:13 | 1811327 Element
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The zionists crims have their rooks in here watching the zh vibe, but fail to gain influence. People are just not afraid of their verbal barbs and attacks, or their guilt trip BS. Their psychological mind-fucks and manicured kult-ural sacred-cows have all stampeded out of their flimsy corral, and they can't round 'em up again. They need a new wave of lies and urban myths and mental Parlour-tricks, because the old routine is now so worn out it's transparent.

The host is becoming resistant to the conspicuous cognitive dissonance caused by their kultural and psychological infection and conditioning. What they want now is to stymie any fence-sitters from waking up, or taking a stance based on their own experiences and observations. It's too late to stop a great awakening as people are realising what's been going on for the past ... oh, idunno ... about 98 years.

Every one of their mental Parlour-tricks is built on a web of prior constructed illusions and lies, which they have carefully constructed using commercial and public-funded MSM. And once the basis of these illusions is kicked away, the resulting cognitive dissonance then causes the rest to topple until people can see the Rothschild squid behind veil, pulling on levers.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 03:58 | 1811417 Shylockracy
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It takes a life-long of full-spectrum brainwashing to produce a docile mass of slaves. It takes however a single book to show the shocking implausibility of what TPTB has sold as incontestable truth.

Most people cannot deal with the cognitive dissonance, and defend the obscene myths that have oriented their lives.

As Ibsen aptly put it:

"If you take the life-lie from an average man, you take away his happiness as well." (The Wild Duck, 1884)

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 04:41 | 1811438 AlienGusto
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I think you're confusing Jews with Jedi. Pretty easy to do if you spend all your time on rense, reading about UFOs and lizard people. And Ron Paul.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 06:03 | 1811464 Element
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Welcome to your first post alienrook dude ... what's a rense, and are there really UFOs and reptile peeps?

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 05:58 | 1811462 DogSlime
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It's not just Jews.  I am not Jewish.  I find Zionism (not simply being Jewish - but proper Zionism) as repulsive as Nazi-ism, but I really think you suck cock.  How do you reconcile this?

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 00:19 | 1811250 jeff montanye
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what's this used to give a pass into heaven?  did i miss a memo?

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 01:22 | 1811338 LeonardoFibonacci
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I gather from your comments you are a Jew.  But that does not give you the right to write such disrespectful comments towards people who are free to speaak their minds on this blog.  Would you be so courageous when faced in person by 5 to 6 SS officers who ask you for your papers? Coming to a USA state near.......

Zeigen Sie mir ihre unterlagen juden

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 22:11 | 1810868 Green Leader
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Jesus (Yahshua) was not a Jew:

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 23:03 | 1811068 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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There were a bunch of dudes running around preaching gospol back then.  Jesus means, "The Way".  The bible is a conglamorate of wisdom, of course bastardized by King John and Josephus; but the wisdom lies between the lines.

Christianity, like Judeaism, were mushroom cults that were very pagan, but preached a "One True God" mentality.  There were factions among the "tribes", there always is....

Look at the CIA today; tribe; factions.

Be your own man/woman.  Realize your own fate.

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 23:07 | 1811080 slewie the pi-rat
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do you mean king john the bastard son of king james?

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 23:40 | 1811179 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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I'm about to finish off a bottle of Pinot Gris....

...and go to bed.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 00:23 | 1811254 jeff montanye
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mushroom cults, bitchez.

p.s. read "the botany of desire" if only to find out what witches put on their broom sticks and what they did with them then.  seasonal off topic.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 01:07 | 1811319 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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There is wisdom in experience.  The interesting part is that Religion says not to do "drugs".  Boot to the throat, bitchez.

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 23:38 | 1811173 flacon
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Mr Lennon Hendrix,


Jesus means "God is Salvation". 

Jesus, Joshua, Yeshua. All the same name. 

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 23:41 | 1811184 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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"God is Salvation". 


The Way

We agree

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 00:02 | 1811196 flacon
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"The Way" was the name of the first 'church'.

When you say "Jesus" it means a lot more than just "the way". Jesus came to save us from our sins. It is only fitting that his name is "salvation" (which means "to SAVE"). When you use the term "the way" it means little in relevance to the mission that Jesus came to fulifl. 


Ever studied the meaning behind these "Christianeze" words?:






and why does the Roman 'church' INTENTIONALLY not use the term "Hallelujah" but replaces it with "Alleluia"? Could it be that they do not want YAH (JAH) to be included? 



Wed, 10/26/2011 - 00:10 | 1811236 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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but before I tap...


Wed, 10/26/2011 - 10:23 | 1811452 i-dog
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Actually, Amenemhat was the biblical "Abraham" ... he became Pharaoh much earlier (1991 BC) than Amenhotep (in 1525 BC, just after the Hyksos had been driven out to Canaan ... Amen-ho-tep means "Amun/Amen is pleased / content" ... one can see why he was pleased! :).

With typical religious hypocrisy ("thou shalt not kill" and all that), Amenemhat was a priest and vizier who assassinated his pharaoh and usurped the throne as a commoner ... then imposed the monotheistic worship of Amun as the head of all the Egyptian gods (Amen-em-hat means "Amun/Amen is at the head"). Prior to that, Egyptians had been polytheistic. Sorry to be pedantic.

"For thine is the kingdom, the power and the glory, for ever and ever, Amen." Interesting ... amazing what a difference a comma instead of a period makes, eh!?! Hidden in plain sight!

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 22:46 | 1811001 passwordis
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 Judaism is a religion that a minority of Jews practice.    A Jew is distinct and separate from a religion.  What we are talking about is a tribe or race of people with certian traits that clearly separate them from gentiles.  The manifestation of these traits have caused their expulsion from every country they have ever assimilated in.

    We are living in a time where these manifestations are once again becoming increasing clear to more and more people. Interesting times, indeed.

  Read what George Washington and Benjamin Franklin had to say about the tribe of Jews. Benjamin Franklin's time line on how long it will take for the Jews to destroy America is astonishingly accurate.


WASHINGTON, GEORGE, in Maxims of George Washington by A. A. Appleton & Co.

"They (the Jews) work more effectively against us, than the enemy's armies. They are a hundred times more dangerous to our liberties and the great cause we are engaged in... It is much to be lamented that each state, long ago, has not hunted them down as pest to society and the greatest enemies we have to the happiness of America."

This prophecy, of  Benjamin Franklin - recorded in the dairy of Charles Cotesworth Pinckney, a delegate from South Carolina.

"I fully agree with General Washington, that we must protect this young nation from an insidious influence and impenetration. The menace, gentlemen, is the Jews.
In whatever country Jews have settled in any great number, they have lowered its moral tone; depreciated its commercial integrity; have segregated themselves and have not been assimilated; have sneered at and tried to undermine the Christian religion upon which that nation is founded, by objecting to its restrictions; have built up a state within the state; and when opposed have tried to strangle that country to death financially, as in the case of Spain and Portugal.
For over 1,700 years, the Jews have been bewailing their sad fate in that they have been exiled from their homeland, as they call Palestine. But gentlemen, did the world give it to them in fee simple, they would at once find some reason for not returning. Why? Because they are vampires, and vampires do not live on vampires. They cannot live only among themselves. They must subsist on Christians and other people not of their race.
If you do not exclude them from these United States, in their Constitution, in less than 200 years they will have swarmed here in such great numbers that they will dominate and devour the land and change our form of government, for which we Americans have shed our blood, given our lives our substance and jeopardized our liberty.
If you do not exclude them, in less than 200 years our descendants will be working in the fields to furnish them substance, while they will be in the counting houses rubbing their hands. I warn you, gentlemen, if you do not exclude Jews for all time, your children will curse you in your graves.
Jews, gentlemen, are Asiatics, let them be born where they will nor how many generations they are away from Asia, they will never be otherwise. Their ideas do not conform to an American's, and will not even thou they live among us ten generations. A leopard cannot change its spots. Jews are Asiatics, are a menace to this country if permitted entrance, and should be excluded by this Constitutional Convention.




Tue, 10/25/2011 - 23:10 | 1811092 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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These men, as brilliant as they were, also owned slaves.  We are still moving forward with our genius, and we will continue to do so, against all odds.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 09:39 | 1811998 passwordis
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These men, as brilliant as they were, also owned slaves.

 So they were brilliant slave owners.


    * Ironically it was the Jews who were behind the slave trade.

   * There were more white slaves than black.

   * There are more slaves today then at any time in recorded history.


We are still moving forward with our genius, and we will continue to do so, against all odds. 

Sadly you are mistaken. Our development has been arrested. There are no more geniuses coming down the pike.


Wed, 10/26/2011 - 00:57 | 1811142 lincolnsteffens
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Wow, I didn't know the Jews are Asian. Maybe we should re-write history and geography to conform to Franklin's knowledge of these subjects. The early Jews were the same superstitious people that still live at the eastern end of the Mediterranean and neighboring Middle East. The Jews today are  primarily about as much Asian as are Christians. Jewish religious beliefs spawned Christianity and Mohammedanism . The reason the Jews were in the counting houses were as a conquered people. If unarmed Jews  weren't slaughtered by Mohammed's followers or the Catholics the only occupation they were allowed to have was in finance. They were in finance because their oppressors had a hard time figuring out that 1+1 equals 2 and so wanted  EDUCATED JEWS to work for their oppressors.The Catholic Church used to put people to death for book possession.

Franklin may have been an inventive, perceptive, gluttonous fornicator but he was a bit short in knowledge of the world outside of North America and Europe as were the most well educated people of his time. None the less, I owe Washington, Franklin and other men of privilege at the end of the 18th century a great debt for furthering what began with the Magna Carta.


It is obvious that buy singling out these quotes  you have exposed yourself as an ignorant fool. Why don't you join the Flat Earth Society and leave ZH.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 02:30 | 1811377 Davalicious
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Jews, like their scheming and unwelcome fellow travellers Gypsies, claim a false origin. When Gypsies came to Europe, from India, in the 11th century they claimed to be Christian exiles from egypt. Almost all modern Jews are actually from Khazarian.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 07:15 | 1811505 i-dog
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"Almost all modern Jews are actually [from] Khazarian."

As were, in all likelihood, some of the original Jews!

The Hyksos ("foreign ruler") pharaohs of Egypt came in on chariots around 1800 BCE ... and, oddly enough, the spoked-wheel chariot originated in Khazakhstan around 2000 BCE (see here) ... not far north-east of the place where the Ashkenazim Khazars "converted" to Judaism in around 950 CE (see here).

When the Hyksos were finally expelled from Egypt by Pharaoh Ahmose I in 1549 BCE, they were driven across the Sinai into Canaan (Judea) and allegedly formed the "12 Tribes of Israel". (Actually, there is good evidence that the 12 "tribes" were really 12 Egyptian provincial governors appointed to keep things under control).

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 09:11 | 1811931 Fiat Money
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"Wow, I didn't know the Jews are Asian."

 The U.S. Natural History Museum (in downtown Washington, D.C.) had an exhibit on ASIA, and a graphic (sign) there that stated,  "ALL THREE of the world's great mono-theist religions - Judaism, Christianity, Islam - ORIGINATED in ASIA"... in  The MidEAST"  - which was (and still is) often called the "ancient NEAR EAST."  

  The whole meme about Greece fighting for its freedom - if not for "democracy" - from Persian rule, is often framed in terms of "WEST vs EAST"  (Although, ironically, TROY is portrayed as slightly less dictatorial (under "good king Priam") than the bloodthirsty Greeks under Agamemnon, if only because Troy was on the defensive for most of the war(s), and the Greeks were bent on rape, pillage, massacre, & Plunder. )

  And, of course, when Jewish writers use the words "anti-Semitic" to mean "anti-Jewish" - they are, by design,  DIMINISHING, DIMUNITIZING, painting OUT of the picture the MILLIONS of Semitic people who are ARABS - a very ruthless, DEHUMANIZING propaganda tactic.    

  I don't think you would quibble that the Arabs, and the "kingdom of Arabia" are Asiatic (as the Greeks spent 1,000+ years portraying the Persian emperors as Asiatic).... as are their Semitic cousins, the Jews.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 09:36 | 1812039 passwordis
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Wow, I didn't know... 

No kidding!


Your first sentance in this reply should be enough to deter people from reading anything else you have to say on the subject..


Tue, 10/25/2011 - 23:46 | 1811193 rocker
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 There is much said by one of my hero's words.  Benjamin Franklin being one of my top 10. 

 We should all listen to his wisdom if we are to be wise too.  

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 00:04 | 1811225 flacon
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When the Bible uses the term "Jew", what, according to your hypothesis, should be the correct word? "A Jew is not one who is one outwardly, but who is one inwardly" etc. Replace the word "Jew" with what you think it should have said. 

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 01:17 | 1811334 mjk0259
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Who invented communism?

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 07:19 | 1811570 i-dog
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The Jesuits.

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 22:58 | 1811031 baby_BLYTHE
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Tue, 10/25/2011 - 22:59 | 1811053 disabledvet
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Look straight into the camera when you say that.

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 23:05 | 1811060 baby_BLYTHE
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alright, I don't give a s*it anymore

The Jews indeed don't quit. Why is it that they have been banished from 47+ different countries within the last 1,000 years??? Us gentiles must stick together through thick and thin. The truth shall one day set us all free! There is no more running away from the stone cold reality anymore. Ban me! I dare you. ZH ftw, as always. Respecting free speech! 


Tue, 10/25/2011 - 23:12 | 1811096 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Tue, 10/25/2011 - 23:16 | 1811105 The Shootist
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That makes two of us.

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 23:27 | 1811107 baby_BLYTHE
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what? huh? what is going on? You all stoned? Free speech is a gift, I intend to use it until they lock me away in a FEMA camp or any other state sponsored interment camp. ZH is the last bastion of free speech left in the economic/geo-political community! 

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 23:43 | 1811189 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Haven't been smoking pot for eight months....

not in my character.....

I'm not sure what you meant, that is all.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 00:29 | 1811275 slewie the pi-rat
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yes, that is right.  about zH

if they put all the zeroHeads in the same camp, just on general principles, it might be a win-win! 

you sound feisty & well.  good

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 23:19 | 1811113 slewie the pi-rat
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that's funny,  you don't look like a gentile, baby_B

L0L!!!  do not disrespect the talmud by writing sh*t

you are not cut off!  put the next one on my tab, with the hamburger today.  i will pay them next week.  i promise

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 23:28 | 1811129 baby_BLYTHE
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There ain't a drop of Jew blood in me. Interest money is totally immoral and should be wiped away off the face of the earth. Every human being should have the dignity guaranteed to them as a birth right, as per our Constitution states.

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 23:45 | 1811191 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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You would be surprised how many people do share the blood.  Sort of like Americans and Natives, you know....

Sex, it happens....

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 00:23 | 1811263 UP Forester
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I guess we need an Inuit to be corrupted next....

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 01:11 | 1811328 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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For the whites that made it up there. yes.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 01:21 | 1811336 lincolnsteffens
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How the fuck would you know there's no Jew blood in you? I suppose you can trace your lineage back 4K years. As for dignity, how can you expect dignity as your right when you deny dignity to others. Let those without gilt cast the first stone. Not that you would ever share the information, but go get a gene test ass wipe if you want to know something about your heritage  instead of pretending your beliefs are  facts.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 07:35 | 1811604 i-dog
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"ass wipe" ... now there's an interesting word combination ... do you find it gives your arguments "dignity"?

Full disclosure: I'm descended from Vikings (my family helped invade England in 1066), so I'm, in all likelihood, a Jew from the tribe of Dan (the Phoenicians). We're not friends of Rome, anyway (Hannibal was also a Phoenician). Just wanted to get that out there.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 07:44 | 1811649 Element
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That's ok i-dog ... I'm a Bavarian who f*cked quite a few sluty Jooesses in my time ... just wanted to get that out there.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 03:21 | 1811402 Element
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Blythe - BTW in that video you posted, Dr Pierce says that Rupert Murdoch is not a Jew, but works with them.

That is incorrect, Murdoch is actually a Jew, and has been observed going to Synagogue in the UK.

He's not just some shit-kicker accomplice, sucking-up to ZOG, he's ZOG's MSM Numero-UNO - the Globalists equivalent of Joseph Goebbels.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 07:47 | 1811638 i-dog
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Bullshit! He's a Presbyterian and was married to a Roman Catholic. He is a 'Papal Knight of St. Gregory' (a Jesuit foot-soldier) and his daughter (from the marriage to the Roman Catholic) was married in a catholic church. I know the family quite well and a good friend married into it.

There aren't jews under every bed! (though, as a crypto-Jesuit, he is all but identical to a Labor Zionist, which BTW aren't actually 'jews').

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 08:40 | 1811693 Element
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"Rupert's father Sir Keith Murdoch [see below] attained his prominent position in Australian society through a fortuitous marriage to the daughter of a wealthy Jewish family, née Elisabeth Joy Greene. Through his wife's connections, Keith Murdoch was subsequently promoted from reporter to chairman of the British-owned newspaper where he worked. There was enough money to buy himself a knighthood of the British realm, two newspapers in Adelaide, South Australia, and a radio station in a faraway mining town. For some reason, Murdoch has always tried to hide the fact that his pious mother brought him up as a Jew...

And that, as I am sure you know, makes him a Jew according to the law of the Talmud, and indeed according to the present laws of Israel.


His birth-mother is confirmed to be Jewish, and the Jewish bloodline is matriarchal, which leaves no doubt whatsoever that Rupert Murdoch is indisputably 100% Jewish. Surely you realise the father's side is totally irrelevant regarding the 'jewishness' of a child?  

ONLY the mother's side determins if a person is both legally and scripturally 'Jewish' (and yes, that implicitly means it's indeed a strictly genetic determination criteria, not one of beliefs or conversions) 

So unless you have other evidence this is not his actual birth-mother, or else she is not herself born of a Jewish mother, then I'm entirely correct to point out that Rupert is undisputaly as Jewish as any man could ever be. And yes, he does go to synogogue.

You realize a "Crypto-Jew" is historically a Jew who actively pretends to not be a Jew, for purposes of organised deception, and to allay raising pre-emptive suspicions?


"I know the family quite well and a good friend married into it."


Ok, but not so, you still don't know shit about them mate because you've been deceived. The facts remain that he's borne of a Jewess, so he is thus Jewish. Sorry if that's a shock to your view of him, but truth will kick you in the nutz from time to time.


heh, so recant fucker!  lol   :-D   (... nah, just playin with you mate)


This link is also an interesting read:

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 10:18 | 1812174 i-dog
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That Jewwatch article is the greatest load of bullshit I've ever read on the subject!! There are so many falsities in the article that I don't know where to start!!!!!! I'll have a go...

Murdoch's father (Sir Keith) did not get promoted from "reporter" to "chairman" due to his "fortuitous" marriage to the "wealthy jewess". FFS, he was already general manager of the Australian-owned newspaper at the time of the marriage, honeymooned on his country estate, then became managing director shortly thereafter (or possibly even shortly before). He was incredibly well-connected with senior British and Australian politicians, military leaders and businessmen through family and professional contacts (as am I) and from his wartime reporting more than a decade before he got married. I suspect he was also an agent for the British Secret Service.

"Jewwatch" is not what I'd call a credible source! His mother ...... Ahhh ... fuckit ... I can't be bothered tearing the rest apart!

"You realize a "Crypto-Jew" is historically a Jew who actively pretends to not be a Jew"

I didn't say crypto-Jew, I said crypto-Jesuit ... for a reason.

As I said, I know a lot more about the family and its connections than I'm prepared to disclose here. You are very wrong -- though he is a Zionist sympathiser through being a Jesuit.

Fri, 10/28/2011 - 04:41 | 1820038 Element
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His mother ...... Ahhh ... fuckit ... I can't be bothered tearing the rest apart!


That was fucking pathetic i-dog! ... and very disappointing. Can you really imagine you can get away with that shit?  I thought you were a lot smarter than that. It seems I've over-estimated you.

I pointed out in the clearest possible terms that the case of whether Rupert Murdoch is a Jew, or not, 100% HINGES on if his birth-mother is a Jew, or not.

I actually invited you to REPLY to address that very specific and crucial point.

You did precisely zero to call that into question. And yet gave a semi-tumultuous and unsolicited critique of a fucking website's cred? WTF?!

I don't give a toss about Jew-Watch, or ANY such site!

And yes, I know you said "crypto-Jesuit".

That actually did not escape me, at all. It's just plain fucking irrelevant, given he's actualy a JEW, and a CRYPTO-JEW at that!

Let me nail this down for you;

If Rupert is actauly a JEW (and he is) then he's NOT a "crypto-Jesuit", he's then a crypto-Jew who's PRETENDING to be a crypto-Jesuit.

Get it now?

I pointed out what a "Crypto-Jew" is, because you've been curiously duped into thinking he's no Jew, when he's definitely a classically and legally defined genuine Jew. 

So answer the actual question i-dog (no, don't answer the question you wish you had been asked ... yeah, I know those old tricks ... and no, shit like that will not work on me, so just answer the actual question).




I want a one-syllable answer from you i-dog.

But if you wan't to say "No", then I want YOUR contrary EVIDENCE, not some rediculously irrelevant critique of a "nasty-evil-joo-watchy-thingy.commie" website. Nor some other shallow form of obfuscation, nor flattery, or other BS, like an appeal to family and business connections, etc.

A simple "Yes" will do.


Else I will beat you mercilessly.  :-D

Fri, 10/28/2011 - 08:36 | 1820219 i-dog
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*sigh* ... you again! Now you're starting to piss me off!

You keep banging on about a subject that you have no knowledge (or proof) of, and your sole evidence is a joo-bashing site which contains so many factual errors that you should be embarrassed to even mention it!

For your further edification, here is Murdoch's mother's female bloodline (ie. her so-called "jewish" ancestry):

mother: Marie Grace de Lancey Forth (born at Warrnambool, Victoria)
grandmother: Anne Thomson Ware (born at Camperdown, Victoria)
great-grandmother: Anne Young McRobie (born in Tasmania)
great-great-grandmother: Anne Young Thomson (born in Scotland)
great-great-great-grandmother: Jane Hall (born in Scotland)

If you believe any of those are jewesses, then please provide PROOF (from somewhere more credible than your 'jewwatch' site, unless you're just here to amuse me) ... or STFU about it!!

I'm not here to defend Murdoch ... I have worked close to him and have zero respect for either his business principles or his pro-Zionist (Jesuit) stance. But I am here to defend the truth ... else irrational joo-bashing by posters (or is it poseurs?) like yourself, who are aiming at the wrong target, send others off on a wild goose chase. Your misdirecting of the target makes me suspicious of your motives (and/or your intelligence).

"Else I will beat you mercilessly."

... In your fucking dreams!!

Fri, 10/28/2011 - 16:30 | 1822394 Element
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No idog, being borne in Australia or Scotland DOES NOT mean one is not of a female Jewish bloodline. The vast majority of Jews in Australia today are born in Australia, and I know many with ancestry from Scotland, or Spain, or Egypt, or Turkey, or South Africa ... and many other countries.

One's nationality (or claimed religion or 'conversion') is not evidence or a refutation of a person's Jewishness, according to their birth line.

I asked you specifically about whether the birth mother is Jewish,

NOT if she is born in Australia - which is utterly irrelevant to the question.

And NOT if the Father is a Jesuit - whch again is utterly irrelevant to the question.

And you know it has nothing to do with it, so stop pathetically pretending it does.

You've settled nothing by doing that.

The question; is Rupert Murdoch's birth-mother of Jewish decent?

I have tried to get you to directly address that question, but you've simply refused to, and instead you keep talking completely irrelevant and obfuscating PURE DRIVEL all around and around it.

As for my "banging-on" about this, it is because of your total failure to address that primary question, either within your first, or your second reply, and that requires you be challenged to address it.

If you can't see that, then you're just being disingenuous, and deliberately difficult.

The other thing is you whined about your exasperation and impatience with this matter then you STILL went ahead and wrote a lengthy BS-'reply' (to straighten me out no less) that totally failed to discuss the primary question!


So it's reasonable to call this behaviour PATHETIC, as it indicates your claimed exasperation and impatience are also disingenuous.

See how that works?

My nailing you down for a reply or to explain this, was and is perfectly reasonable, and a proper part of such a discourse, which you seem (curiously) incapable of without posting from a Wikipedia page (in most posts you seem to make .. I might add) then you proceed to act as though you're the source of superior knowledge, and that the other guy is worthy of slights, for simply asking your most intellectual-highness about the original question.

Lastly, the fact that you adamantly claim very close family and professional association with Rupert Murdoch, and his organisation and methods, combined with your serial obfuscations of this question, is most disconcerting.

So on the contrary i-dog, this all leads me to wonder about you and your stylistic but merely distracting non-replies, that pretend to be an intellectually superior rebuttal. You could have resolved this in one concise post at the beginning ... if you had the capacity to do so.

You didn't.

That implies you don't have such a capacity, or the evidence to do so, and are just pretending you do, and still pretending to have addressed the primary question.

That's plain ridiculous. There is a GREAT DEAL of controversy and recent debate about Rupert Murdock, on this question, a lot of people want to know. For you to claim to know, or to pretend to know, is unconvincing to say the least, when others have found a lot of evidence to the contrary.

For example;

(and I'll say in advance that this also does not settle the primary question ... but it sure raises a few)


Murdoch's Deeply Hidden Jewish Roots -- A Biography

By Christopher Bollyn – American Free Press

Christopher Bollyn is an investigative journalist who has written extensively on the events of September 11, 2001 in the Washington-based American Free Press. He has researched different aspects of the 9/11 attacks and uncovered facts and evidence that challenge the official version of events. tried to smear Bollyn as an “anti-Semite” in order to discredit him and diminish the significance of his work. At the helm of both organizations, the ADL and Fox News, is an Australian-born Zionist named Keith Rupert Murdoch.

Murdoch's Jewish Roots

Murdoch “became an American citizen for business reasons,” according to Richard H. Curtiss, editor of the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs. Keith Rupert was born in Melbourne, Australia, on March 11, 1931. “Rupert’s father, Sir Keith Murdoch, was a newspaper publisher, and his mother an Orthodox Jew,” Curtiss wrote, “although Murdoch never offers that information in his biographies.”

Murdoch’s father married Elisabeth Joy Greene, daughter of Rupert Greene in 1928. They had one son, Keith Rupert and three daughters. Later in life, Keith Rupert chose to use Rupert, the first name of his Jewish maternal grandfather.

The young Keith Rupert was educated at Australia’s fashionable Geelong private school, and went on to the elitist and aristocratic Oxford University in England, according to Candour (UK) magazine.

“Rupert’s father Sir Keith Murdoch attained his prominent position in Australian society through a fortuitous marriage to the daughter of a wealthy Jewish family, née Elisabeth Joy Greene. Through his wife’s connections, Keith Murdoch was subsequently promoted from reporter to chairman of the British-owned newspaper where he worked. There was enough money to buy himself a knighthood of the British realm, two newspapers in Adelaide, South Australia, and a radio station in a faraway mining town,” Candour wrote in 1984. “For some reason, Murdoch has always tried to hide the fact that his pious mother brought him up as a Jew.”

While Murdoch may have “tried to hide” his Jewish roots, he has been quite forthright about his support for extreme right-wing Zionists, such as Benjamin Netanyahu and Ariel Sharon.

Netanyahu, who wrote a book entitled The War on Terror: How the West Can Win in 1986, is a frequent commentator on Murdoch’s Fox News.

Murdoch’s support for Zionism extremists is well known and a matter of record. As New York Governor George Pataki said, “There is no newspaper in the U.S. more supportive of Israel than the [Murdoch’s] New York Post.”

It is through a network of Zionist organizations, in which Murdoch plays a central role, that Murdoch is connected to the individuals who arranged the privatization – and obtained control of the World Trade Center – shortly before its destruction.

These key individuals are: Larry Silverstein and the former Israeli commando Frank Lowy, the lease holders of dubious repute who gained control of the WTC property six weeks before 9/11, and Port Authority Chairman Lewis M. Eisenberg, who authorized the transfer of the leases.

Murdoch belongs to, and has been honored by, a number of leading Zionist organizations in which Silverstein, Lowy, and Eisenberg all hold senior positions. These organizations include the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), the United Jewish Appeal (UJA), and the New York-based Museum of Jewish Heritage - A Living Memorial to the Holocaust.

Fifty days before 9/11, Silverstein Properties and Lowy’s Westfield America secured 99-year leases on the WTC. The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey turned control of the World Trade Center over to the private hands of Silverstein and Lowy on July 24, 2001.

Silverstein and Lowy then took control of the 10.6 million-square-foot complex, which included the twin towers office buildings and two nine-story office buildings. Silverstein and the former Israeli commando Lowy then controlled all access to the World Trade Center.

Lowy leased the shopping concourse called the Mall at the World Trade Center, which comprised about 427,000 square feet of retail space.

“Six weeks before the WTC towers were destroyed, the Port Authority completed the process of leasing them for 99 years to Larry Silverstein, the developer who had built 7 World Trade Center [which mysteriously self-demolished at 5:25 p.m. on 9/11].

“Simultaneously, the retail space underneath the complex was leased to Westfield America, the US division of an Australian company that is one of the world’s largest operators of shopping malls.” Paul Goldberger wrote in New Yorker, May 20, 2002.

“Silverstein and Westfield were given the right to rebuild the structures if they were destroyed, and Westfield has the right to expand the retail space by 30 percent,” Goldberger wrote.

Silverstein is suing for some $7.2 billion in insurance money for the loss of the destroyed World Trade Center – and his expected earnings – for property he had leased with a down payment of $100 million – of borrowed funds.

Murdoch the Zionist

“Murdoch is a close friend of Ariel Sharon,” Sam Kiley, The Times (UK) veteran journalist on the Middle East wrote about the man who took over the once famous British paper. Kiley said Murdoch’s friendship with the Israeli prime minister had caused senior staff at the paper to rewrite important copy.

“Murdoch’s executives were so afraid of irritating him that, when I pulled off a little scoop of tracking down and photographing the unit in the Israeli army which killed Mohammed al-Durrah, the 12-year-old boy whose death was captured on film and became the iconic image of the conflict, I was asked to file the piece ‘without mentioning the dead kid.’” Kiley wrote. “After that conversation, I was left wordless, so I quit.”

Sharon and Murdoch are old friends. On Oct. 15, 1982, a month after the massacres of thousands of Palestinian refugees in the Sabra and Shatila camps of Beirut, war crimes which occurred under Sharon’s direct command, the Israeli defense minister held meetings with Rupert Murdoch and others, reportedly in order to advance his “West Bank real estate grab.”

The visit with Sharon included a trip for Murdoch and his editors from New York and London that “took them on a bird’s-eye tour of Israel aboard a helicopter gunship, flying over the Golan Heights, West Bank and settlements.”

“I have always believed in the future of Israel and the goals of the international Jewish community,” Murdoch said at a spring fund-raiser for the Museum of Jewish Heritage - A Living Memorial to the Holocaust on April 29, 2001.

From the beginning, News Corp., his global media company, “has been supportive of the Jewish national cause,” Murdoch said.

Larry Silverstein, who had not yet acquired the lease on the World Trade Center, attended the fund-raiser with Murdoch and reportedly said about museum chairman Robert Morgenthau’s plans to expand the museum: “I’ll support you…as long as you keep it under 110 stories.”

Murdoch and the ADL

“Henry Kissinger, Rupert Murdoch and Mortimer Zuckerman are on the [ADL] dinner committee,” according to a recent New York Times report on the ADL’s recent fund-raiser in which the controversial Italian prime minister Silvio Berlusconi received the ADL’s Distinguished Statesman Award.

Silverstein and Eisenberg have both held senior leadership positions with the United Jewish Appeal (UJA), a billion dollar Zionist “charity” organization, to which Murdoch and Lowy generously contribute. In 1997, Henry Kissinger presented Murdoch with the UJA’s award for “Humanitarian of the Year.”

Silverstein is a former chairman of UJA. This organization raises hundreds of millions of dollars every year for a network of Zionist agencies in the United States and Israel. Eisenberg, who was instrumental in obtaining the lease for Silverstein, is on the Planning Board of UJA.

Eisenberg in his role with the Port Authority was the key person who negotiated the 99-year leases for Silverstein and Frank Lowy’s Westfield America, who were in fact the low-bidders for the lease on the 110-story towers and the retail mall.

Murdoch and the Czechoslovakian-born Israeli commando Frank Lowy, a former fighter in Israel’s Golani Brigade, who emigrated to Australia in the 1950s, have had a long friendship, which Murdoch recounted during an American Australian Association fund-raising dinner in honor of Frank’s son, Peter S. Lowy, in New York on November 20, 2002. Larry Silverstein and his wife also attended the American Australian event.

Some reporters refer to the American Australian Association, whose membership includes James Wolfensohn, the president of the World Bank, who raised cash for Rupert Murdoch when he first expanded into the United States, as “the kangaroo mafia.”

“Frank was a brave and determined fighter,” Rafi Kocer, Lowy’s former commander, said. Lowy has donated some $350,000 to build a memorial museum in Israel for his former brigade.

Today, Lowy and his three sons control Westfield Corporation, one of the largest operators of shopping centers in the United States – and the world.

Insured Against Terrorist Attacks

On September 12, 2001, The Jerusalem Post reported: “Frank Lowy, who emigrated to Australia from Israel in 1952, owns the 99-year lease for the 425,000 square foot retail portion of the destroyed World Trade Center…Westfield said today that it has insurance cover against terrorist attacks and its earnings will not be materially affected.”

Lowy, is described by the Sydney Morning Herald as “a self-made man with a strong interest in the Holocaust and Israeli politics.”

The information archived below was found at on October 22, 2005 and is made available here for scholarly, research, educational, and personal use under "fair use" regulations as legislated in Title 171 of the copyright law.


There is a lengthy 2010 discussion of this article and this question, here:

Fri, 10/28/2011 - 18:19 | 1822580 Element
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Finally, i-dog, here is a FORMAL CONSERVATIVE JEWISH COLLATED LISTING of all Jews in the US MSM Media owner clique:






MORTIMER ZUCKERMAN, owner of NY Daily News, US News & World Report and chair of the Conference of Presidents of Major Jewish American Organizations, one of the largest pro-Israel lobbying groups.

LESLIE MOONVES, president of CBS television, great-nephew of David Ben-Gurion, and co-chair with Norman Ornstein of the Advisory Committee on Public Interest Obligation of Digital TV Producers, appointed by Clinton.

JONATHAN MILLER, chair and CEO of AOL division of AOL-Time-Warner

NEIL SHAPIRO, president of NBC News

JEFF GASPIN, Executive Vice-President, Programming, NBC

DAVID WESTIN, president of ABC News

SUMNER REDSTONE, CEO of Viacom, “world’s biggest media giant” (Economist, 11/23/2) owns Viacom cable, CBS and MTVs all over the world, Blockbuster video rentals and Black Entertainment TV.

MICHAEL EISNER, major owner of Walt Disney, Capitol Cities, ABC.

RUPERT MURDOCH, Owner Fox TV, New York Post, London Times, News of the World (Jewish mother)

[my emphasis]

MEL KARMAZIN, president of CBS

DON HEWITT, Exec. Director, 60 Minutes, CBS

JEFF FAGER, Exec. Director, 60 Minutes II. CBS

DAVID POLTRACK, Executive Vice-President, Research and Planning, CBS

SANDY KRUSHOW, Chair, Fox Entertainment

LLOYD BRAUN, Chair, ABC Entertainment

BARRY MEYER, chair, Warner Bros.

SHERRY LANSING. President of Paramount Communications and Chairman of Paramount Pictures’ Motion Picture Group.


BRAD SIEGEL., President, Turner Entertainment.

PETER CHERNIN, second in-command at Rupert Murdoch’s News. Corp., owner of Fox TV

MARTY PERETZ, owner and publisher of the New Republic, which openly identifies itself as pro-Israel. Al Gore credits Marty with being his “mentor.”

ARTHUR O. SULZBERGER, JR., publisher of the NY Times, the Boston Globe and other publications.

WILLIAM SAFIRE, syndicated columnist for the NYT.

TOM FRIEDMAN, syndicated columnist for the NYT.

CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER, syndicated columnist for the Washington Post. Honored by Honest, website monitoring “anti-Israel media.”

RICHARD COHEN, syndicated columnist for the Washington Post

JEFF JACOBY, syndicated columnist for the Boston Globe

NORMAN ORNSTEIN, American Enterprise Inst., regular columnist for USA Today, news analyst for CBS, and co-chair with Leslie Moonves of the Advisory Committee on Public Interest Obligation of Digital TV Producers, appointed by Clinton.

ARIE FLEISCHER, Dubya’s press secretary.

STEPHEN EMERSON, every media outlet’s first choice as an expert on domestic terrorism.

DAVID SCHNEIDERMAN, owner of the Village Voice and the New Times network of “alternative weeklies.”

DENNIS LEIBOWITZ, head of Act II Partners, a media hedge fund

KENNETH POLLACK, for CIA analysts, director of Saban Center for Middle East Policy, writes op-eds in NY Times, New Yorker

BARRY DILLER, chair of USA Interactive, former owner of Universal Entertainment

KENNETH ROTH, Executive Director of Human Rights Watch

RICHARD LEIBNER, runs the N.S. Bienstock talent agency, which represents 600 news personalities such as Dan Rather, Dianne Sawyer and Bill O’Reilly.

TERRY SEMEL, CEO, Yahoo, former chair, Warner Bros.

MARK GOLIN, VP and Creative Director, AOL

WARREN LIEBERFORD, Pres., Warner Bros. Home Video Div. of AOL- TimeWarner

JEFFREY ZUCKER, President of NBC Entertainment

JACK MYERS, NBC, chief.NYT 5.14.2

SANDY GRUSHOW, chair of Fox Entertainment

GAIL BERMAN, president of Fox Entertainment

STEPHEN SPIELBERG, co-owner of Dreamworks

JEFFREY KATZENBERG, co-owner of Dreamworks

DAVID GEFFEN, co-owner of Dreamworks

LLYOD BRAUN, chair of ABC Entertainment

JORDAN LEVIN, president of Warner Bros. Entertainment

MAX MUTCHNICK, co-executive producer of NBC’s “Good Morning Miami”

DAVID KOHAN, co-executive producer of NBC’s “Good Morning Miami”

HOWARD STRINGER, chief of Sony Corp. of America

AMY PASCAL, chair of Columbia Pictures

JOEL KLEIN, chair and CEO of Bertelsmann’s American operations

ROBERT SILLERMAN, founder of Clear Channel Communications

BRIAN GRADEN, president of MTV entertainment

IVAN SEIDENBERG, CEO of Verizon Communications

WOLF BLITZER, host of CNN’s Late Edition

LARRY KING, host of Larry King Live

TED KOPPEL, host of ABC’s Nightline



MIKE WALLACE, Host of CBS, 60 Minutes


MICHAEL LEDEEN, editor of National Review

BRUCE NUSSBAUM, editorial page editor, Business Week

DONALD GRAHAM, Chair and CEO of Newsweek and Washington Post, son of

CATHERINE GRAHAM MEYER, former owner of the Washington Post

HOWARD FINEMAN, Chief Political Columnist, Newsweek

WILLIAM KRISTOL, Editor, Weekly Standard, Exec. Director
Project for a New American Century (PNAC)

RON ROSENTHAL, Managing Editor, San Francisco Chronicle

PHIL BRONSTEIN, Executive Editor, San Francisco Chronicle,

RON OWENS, Talk Show Host, KGO (ABC-Capitol Cities, San Francisco)

JOHN ROTHMAN, Talk Show Host, KGO (ABC-Capitol Cities, San Francisco)

MICHAEL SAVAGE, Talk Show Host, KFSO (ABC-Capitol Cities, San Francisco) Syndicated in 100 markets

MICHAEL MEDVED, Talk Show Host, on 124 AM stations

DENNIS PRAGER, Talk Show Host, nationally syndicated from LA. Has Israeli flag on his home page.

BEN WATTENBERG, Moderator, PBS Think Tank.

ANDREW LACK, president of NBC

DANIEL MENAKER, Executive Director, Harper Collins

DAVID REMNICK, Editor, The New Yorker

NICHOLAS LEHMANN, writer, the New York

HENRICK HERTZBERG, Talk of the Town editor, The New Yorker

SAMUEL NEWHOUSE JR, and DONALD NEWHOUSE own Newhouse Publications, includes 26 newspapers in 22 cities; the Conde Nast magazine group, includes The New Yorker; Parade, the Sunday newspaper supplement; American City Business Journals, business newspapers published in more than 30 major cities in America; and interests in cable television programming and cable systems serving 1 million homes.

DONALD NEWHOUSE, chairman of the board of directors, Associated Press.

PETER R KANN, CEO, Wall Street Journal, Barron’s

RALPH J. & BRIAN ROBERTS, Owners, Comcast-ATT Cable TV.





That's from a Jewish website i-dog (just have a look at the 'topics' links to the right of screen).

And yes, I do think, at this point, we can go ahead and accept their being on this Jewish list, of Jews, as confirmed Jews, is a sufficient evidence that Rupert Murdoch does indeed have a Jewish mommy, and is himself, thus tacitly admitting and confirming that he's Jewish.

So if you're so sure they're mistaken (without any viable question of your being completely incorrect) about Rupert and his mommy, and also that neither of those parties has seen fit to formally set this Jewish Website straight (and I'm pretty certain they would have, if it actually were false), and that you can actually PROVE TO THEM DIRECTLY WITH MATERIAL EVIDENCE that their Jewishness is false, or they are mistaken, then you'd better let 'em know - pronto!

We can't have Goyim riff-raff getting in the backdoor like this!

Perhaps you should berate them a bit, and tell them to "STFU"  ... or somfin ... so they understand that you really know your stuff and are not just talking irrelevant shit to them.

Oh yeah, and how about you recant?

And maybe apologise, as that would be proper at this point, or at least somewhat more dignified.

(or else, you can feel free to STFU yourself)

As I said, the "Yes" option ... it would have been best mate.

But hey, this is fight-club ... so thanks for comin' ...   :-D



EDIT: um, one last thing i-dog, that thing you do, where you pretend to be the Oracle and Guardian of the fine-detail of factual and historical truth (not least to make strawmen around being this mythical benevolent superhero of debate ... yeah, ... that's what you're doing there when you claim that dire responsibility to zh readership, and all of humanity), simply to prevent others from being led down false avenues of erroneous claims, via nefarious actors ... yeah ... hmm ... well, ... how's about you don't insinuate yourself into that self-appointed roll any more here? ... let's just let people use their own capacities, free of someone else's oversight or say-so etc.

I think that would be best ... don't you?   ;-)

Fri, 10/28/2011 - 20:24 | 1823101 i-dog
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Zero proof ... all innuendo ... and plenty of patent falsehoods!

You made the claim that he was biologically jewish, so fucking prove it! I don't need to prove a negative.

You're completely missing the real target and wasting my time and patience.

[Hint: Read up on Sabbateans and their close association with Jesuits - particularly since a meeting in Frankfurt in 1786 between Jacob Frank (Sabbatean leader), Adam Weishaupt (Jesuit founder of 'Illuminati') and Mayer Rothschild (Sabbatean banker). Kissinger (Knight of Malta) is a Sabbatean; Murdoch (Knight of St.Gregory) is a crypto-Jesuit ... they both work with each other and with the Vatican towards an objective that has absolutely nothing at all to do with orthodox judaism, FFS!!].

Yes, the media is [largely] controlled by jewish 'names', but the owners and editors nearly all attend the jesuit-created Bilderberg (both Prince Bernhard and Josef Retinger were Knights of Malta) and/or jesuit-created CFR (Edward Mandell House was a Sabbatean; David Rockefeller is a Knight of Malta; Henry Luce was a Knight of Malta; William F. Buckley was a Knight of Malta;......).

Do us all a favour and ... wake up!!

Fri, 10/28/2011 - 21:14 | 1823243 Element
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You made the claim that he was biologically jewish, so fucking prove it!


No, I pointed out that others, scholarly researchers, and among them David Irving (no, not Jew Watch mate, they were only directly quoting Irving's work verbatim, but you ignored that fact in your rush to a dismisal of Jew Watch, as a source for any such commentry or details - completely improper), and US conservative Jews themselves say Rupert Murdoch is one of them.

That's a LOT more than a mere baseless claim mate.

I gave you a Jewish conservative source that says he's definitely a Jew!

You simply assert he isn't a Jew, but give nothing contrary to support that view, except a personal opinion based on historical association.

That ain't nearly enough for me to discount the other sources, as it does not address them AT ALL.

Nevertheless, I may look into those issues you've mentioned.

For now, as far as I'm concerned, I'm reasonably satisfied/confident that Rupert Murdoch is a Jew, and you haven't given me any evidenciary reasons to think otherwise. You talk of mere inuendo, but all you did was to smear those who discussed the pro-case.

Smears are not relevant.

If you call "bullshit" as you did, you need to be able to show why, and to actually do so.

You didn't do that.

I think I've shown sufficiently, that;

(1) it isn't baseless

(2) the Jews themselves are satisfied that he's a Jew


So it's entirely reasonable with a fairly high level of confidence to accept that Rupert Murdoch is a Jew, and to assert such, as I initially did. I am not misleading or derailing any one here via doing that.


Have you considered that there's a good chance you are mistaken and misleading people? Just how did you get so confident you're right about this exactly? I'd sure like to know the actual evidence for this leap of confidence?

Claiming the onus is not on you, when you are the one who called "bullshit", or else twisting this to assert that I'm asking you to prove-a-negative, is obfuscatory nonsense.

You and I both know that sort of line is just bollocks.

So who are you playing that sort of stuff to?  And you just keep changing the subject to Jesuits, and now to nasty Sabbateans and black nights of yore .. fuck man! Would your whole dark-crypt narative really be so terminally wounded if it turned out Rupert is really a Jew?

What gives?

Fri, 10/28/2011 - 21:23 | 1823335 i-dog
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"black nights of yore ...... dark-crypt narative "

LOL! "When innuendo doesn't work, fall back on ridicule"... PsyOps101

Your slip is starting to show....

Do some reading before you come back with more populist nonsense!

Fri, 10/28/2011 - 21:36 | 1823346 Element
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ha, ... paranoia now?

Oh please! ...

ok .. I hit nerve-central with that one.

You have some idea or thesis you wish to protect and if Rupert is a Jew, this being correct would somehow threaten this mental edifice?

Is that it i-dog?

Is that why you're changing the subject and resorting to the commentary of desperation?

My reading's fine ... we are all ignorant in varing degrees re the potential knowledge base of these subjects.

You aren't helping.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 11:35 | 1812744 hvl626
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Agreed. I will believe D.C. is serious when they ask the Fed to account for the $8.4 Trillion the FRBNY handed from the Treasury auctions in 2010. Much of that money was pure profit for the Fed and was hidden from Congress. It is a crime to hide money that is due the government. Ref. 


Tue, 10/25/2011 - 21:34 | 1810727 cocoablini
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AMAZING! As a Poli-Sci major, the level of government treachery towards their corrupt partners in crime is astounding. I would love to hear the dirt Goldman has on the SEC, The FBI, the CIA, The POTUS donations etc, etc.

You can't write this level of treachery. I mean Goldman is part of the PPT, right? The faker club?

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 21:47 | 1810789 john39
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if they can't buy politicians outright, they blackmail them...  some drugs, hookers, whatever it takes to get the job done. 

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 00:16 | 1811244 Freddie
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This is like that Tom Cruise film with the corrupt law firm. The attorneys who ask questions end up dead and everyone has blackmail hanging over them which is the Dem Party's MO.

The difference in that film is the Italian mafia in the movie are happy go lucky wise guys compared to goldman, soros, the elites, intelligence, Google/Skynet, Chicago exchanges and NYC exchanges, TV & newsmedia and the drug cartels who are their partners.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 01:10 | 1811321 roygbiv
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yeah, political blackmail, definitely a Dem thing.


I mean the Repubs would never try to tie up the entire government with invetstigations into the peccadillos of a certain official, and then try to force that twice elected public official to resign over a potential "gasp" blowjob, especially important in comparison to any efforts said blow-jobee was trying to do regarding some oh-i-don't-know, some terrist guy out in the desert who may have been a' hatchin some plan to attack us.

Nope, blackmail - definitely a Dem MO.



Wed, 10/26/2011 - 11:57 | 1812843 hivekiller
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Re: Clinton


How about lying under oath, threatening witnesses, coordinating drug trafficking, blowing up the Murrah Building in OK City, taking a $10 million dollar bribe from the Chinese Army to send technology to help the Chinese better target American cities? Is any of that impeachable?

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 23:19 | 1811114 DeadFred
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The problem is they didn't go after Goldman so why should Goldman care? I don't think GS will worry about it, it's just part of the cost of doing business. You need to pay some bribes, er, campaign contributions, sacrifice a virgin or two to the volcano gods, and occasionally sell out one of your own to make the government look better.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 08:35 | 1811788 Fiat Money
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 "You can't write this level of treachery."

 well... you can try! 

 besides #1. STOLEN ELECTION 2000  (not that it made any difference: Al Gore was IN THE POCKET of the Vampire Squid, he wanted to give them a WORLD MONOPOLY on CARBON 'CREDITS" control, and he selected backstabber Joe Lie-berthug as his running mate) 

 you have, #2.  INTENTIONAL SABOTAGE,  "wet blanketting" of ANY and all US govt. responses to a KNOWN al qaeda terror threat - they WANTED the 9-11 attacks to GO DOWN, so they'd get their precious "NEW PEARL HARBOR" EXCUSE to attack, invade, and permanently occupy Iraq...

#3.  When some Dem senators BALKED at the dictatorial, Nazi-esque ("Enabling Laws") un-P.A.T.R.I.O.T. Act... why, whadda ya know, THE 2 senators MOST powerfully holding up ("obstructing") the act... got ANTHRAX LETTERS MAILED TO THEIR SENATE OFFICES... by "A-RAB terrarists" of course!

#4.    Lies-to-war

#5.     when an outspoken government critic EXPOSED the "Niger, Africa, 'yellowcake'  uranium ore for Iraq WMD program" story as a LIE, the War Lobby (by then well infested in  the U.S. White House) went into overdrive to SMEAR said critic... EXPOSING his WIFE as a CIA undercover agent, thereby "OUTING"  ENTIRE  CIA under-cover operations (plural!) -

#6.   when another Senator was the ONE MAN in America with the influene and courage to potentially DERAIL the bush-cheney-WOLFOWITZ-perle-feith-libby-wurmser-zackheim (et al) INVASION of Iraq... well, WHADDDA YA KNOW, Senator Paul Wellstone's chartered Beechcraft transport airplane goes SMASHING INTO THE GROUND, as he is CRUISING to a STOMPING re-election win,  despite the best muck bush, cheney, rove, and the war-lobby (in form of norm coleman) can throw at him... praise be !

 #7.    those NUKES "go missing" from Barksdale Air Force base.... like some Sergeant accidentally put 'em on the wrong check-list,  LOL !!

#8.   using text-book "DISASTER CAPITALISM"  (= financial warfare on those who aren't expecting/suspecting it), the Fed, Treasury, and Con-gress (and presidents)  extort $20+  TRILLION dollars out of American working families' hides.... and hands 'em over to the GS, JPM, citi, boa, nybankmellon, wachovia/wellsfargo  Fed bankster vampire squids,  Praise Be!! 

#9.  the gs Vampire Squid crew goes on a 2 decade JIHAD to DISMANTLE AMERICAN INDUSTRY - by shipping US jobs, entire factories, ENTIRE INDUSTRIES to communist china - who are, of course, the ultimate "EVUL ENEMY" when the Squid finally runs out of lesser enemies to villanize. 

(saddam, al qaeda, bin laden, qadafi, syria, iran, RUSSIA > china....) 

   hope this helps,  ain't much, but it's a start !!

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 09:35 | 1812034 Fiat Money
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btw,  just to make clear: BOTH Senator Paul Wellstone, AND Alabama Gov. Don Siegleman, were (are) both Jewish... and both were (in Wellstone's case almost certainly) VICTIMS of the Neo-Con (jewish Likud run) WAR LOBBY...

  AS WAS Prime Minister Rabin,  KILLED, SHOT, MURDERED, ASSASSINATED, by a follower of then PM candidate Netanyahu's racist, jewish supremacist "LIKUD" Party in 1995... 

   This is of course a constant and pervasive them IN THE BIBLE:  CAIN vs ABEL,  Isaac vs Ishmael, Jacob vs Essau,  Joseph vs his brothers, David's son Absolom KILLS his half-brother (for raping their half-sister),  David has Saul's grandson's MURDERED (executed/assassinated), David's HARSH RULE provokes his ENTIRE KINGDOM to REBELLION under Absolom (many thousands killed); Salomon has HIS (half-) BROTHER MURDERED, as well as Joab, the general who saved his father countless times...   

the above only a partial list...  in TEXTBOOK "ethnic conflict" fashion, when FOREIGN ENEMIES aren't around, have your bloodthirsty warriors hack & chop up YOUR OWN PEOPLE...   their neighbors... as AARON and his sons MURDERED the very Israelites who FOLLOWED HIM in procession around the Golden Calf !!

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 22:19 | 1810894 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Talking about token fall guys! LOL!!

Rajat Gupta was high up enough in Goldman to think he was on the inside, but not high up enough to realize that people at his level constitute Goldman's sacrifice pool. He just happened to be the lottery winner this time.


Tue, 10/25/2011 - 23:58 | 1811215 Oh regional Indian
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Not to forget that said Rajat Gupta was also the first brown man to lead that nest of vipers called McKinsey and Company.

The hatchet men for any uncomfortable measure needed to be pushed down any comany/nation's throat.

He knows things, that's for sure, no small player. Interesting to see how this develops.


Nuclear Anniv and Omens

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 00:10 | 1811235 Freddie
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Gupta is a sacrificial HinJoo.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 03:34 | 1811412 monkeyboy
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Nah, Raj is just a happy scapegoat.

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 21:13 | 1810645 navy62802
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It's like I've said for a long time. If the authorities were to root out every bit of corruption from our system, the system would no longer continue to exist in its current form. Our financial sector (and hence, the underpinnings of our economy) is built on a foundation of corruption and fraud. These guys are just grains of sand in a vast beach of ass holes. These moves are nothing more than an attempt to create a facade of action ... so that it looks like Obama is dealing with the banker problems. These two will be made examples of (one already has been).

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 21:19 | 1810662 earleflorida
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didn't tyler just say that

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 22:19 | 1810892 slewie the pi-rat
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they have tapes of him having phone sex with martha stewart when she was on parole with the ankle bracelet.  they won't let him turn himself in to the SEC.  full story @ 11!

stay tooned, BiCheZ!

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 21:32 | 1810707 baby_BLYTHE
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we better hope for a total 'root out'. If not, these jackals will cause the collapse of the U.S. currency and send hundreds of millions into poverty worldwide instantaneously with their mass derivative and leveraged speculation. Yes, indeed. It is a damn shame the entire world must rely on the U.S. Federal Reserve Note as the sole Reserve Currency. Real money, GOLD and Silver, will reassert themselves eventually as the only true store of value (sound money) and legal tender but not without much pain and turmoil worldwide. In the mean time, Benocide shall commence. QE3 by Q2 2012, for certain. No dobut in my mind whatsoever.

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 21:35 | 1810730 mynhair
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When the entire system is corrupt, how can the system 'root out corruption'?

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 22:14 | 1810880 earleflorida
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it doesn't - it just keep cannibalizing itself until a few good  [emphasis on a good moral compass endowed genes that paradoxically  strangles the symbiotic amoral gene] renegade mutated genes bifurcates - spawning exponentially the anomalous nascent symbolic mirroring of genetic polling,  coalescing once again into the next homo-sapian lineage, replicating the new genius of neo-modern man

basically we were/ are the past neanderthal's of the future, in which i firmly believe we split fifty years ago prematurely 

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 02:33 | 1811369 Incubus
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You don't.  You burn everything to the ground. 


None of this is worth saving--save for internet infrastructure.

Blank slate, bitches.  People are too "attached" to these cultural and social versions of themselves that they're ignorant to the reality that they're totally free to shape the world as they will.


"You" are not "American" or "Conservative" or "Liberal" or a "dumbass" or a "fatfuck who reads ZH": "you" are a pile of worthless and subjective perversions on information.  What "you" are doing tethering "yourself" to some incredibly asinine interpretation of "yourself" because "you've" been conditioned to do so.


Wake the fuck up and realize that you are free.


Tue, 10/25/2011 - 21:36 | 1810738 cocoablini
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Grains of sand in a beach full of assholes...

That's damn poetic


Tue, 10/25/2011 - 23:04 | 1811071 disabledvet
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Jackals indeed. With the famous singers "the hyenas" providing back up. Expect much yelping and carousing about.

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 21:39 | 1810754 Wannabee
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Up arrow for the beach metaphor. The imagery is beyond words.

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 22:00 | 1810832 Sokhmate
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Walking on such beach is easy on the feet I'd imagine. But gotta be careful with the big toe's placement lest it gets stuck

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 22:40 | 1810987 loveyajimbo
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Yes, but U have to admit, Lloyd is one HUGE asshole... or at least he will have a HUGE asshole soon if there is any justice in this fubar'ed country... oops, Holder the AG is also a HUGE asshole...  ah, forget it.

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 23:08 | 1811082 disabledvet
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He testified. I was impressed with his employees fanaticism. Reminded me of the Waffen SS. Not that they were prepared to die for their country of course.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 23:05 | 1815707 Tompooz
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Thanks for the heads-up, jimbo. The Beach of assholes may be easy on the feet, but you gotta watch out for the big ones that can swallow you whole.

Wed, 10/26/2011 - 03:33 | 1811411 monkeyboy
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Nah, Raj is just a happy scapegoat.




Wed, 10/26/2011 - 12:17 | 1812963 JayParamedic
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On that note, who wants a pen pal? :)

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 21:03 | 1810613 0cz
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"Of course, we give Obama about 24 hours before the economy tanks"

Did I miss something?

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 22:14 | 1810877 Carlyle Groupie
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Don't F with The Squid.

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 22:20 | 1810898 JR
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Tue, 10/25/2011 - 21:03 | 1810615 bugs_
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sing along with raj

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 21:21 | 1810677 knukles
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"Christmas Songs of the Vimanas" by the Raj Brothers.

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 22:19 | 1810884 Carlyle Groupie
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American Federal Pens are the best of the best. Tennis anyone? 3:00 Tea with Madoff?

If I we're the age of a college student I would much prefer that education rather than your traditional approach. Get my drift?

Tue, 10/25/2011 - 21:09 | 1810625 knukles
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Wondered what the fuck was happening with him.  RajRaj gets banged, but Mr. Moto just slid by....  Guess that the Feebies getting some smells of bad shit wafting from the Water Street shed whilst Not Quite Enough Campaign Contributions being spread about?  At some point, the firm who let the Whole Cat Out of the Bag; "We own the world" and "Doing God's Work" was doomed to pay the piper.....
There's that old story of the money changers being thrown from the temple....

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