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The Export-Driven Warmonger: Germany Supplying World, And Israel, With Submarines

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While the Mutually Assured Destruction game is playing out economically in Europe as Spain (et. al.) square off with Germany, it seems we just ticked a minute closer to midnight on the doomsday clock globally. In a somewhat stunning report from Der Spiegel, Israel is arming up to six new German-made submarines with nuclear weapons. These subs are being built in Germany and it turns out the helpful German government has known of this Israeli nuclearization for decades - despite official denial (more lying when it matters we presume). In one of the more ironic 'truths', according to extensive research carried out by the magazine, Israel is equipping submarines that were built in the northern German city of Kiel and largely paid for by the German government with nuclear-tipped cruise missiles. The missiles can be launched using a previously secret hydraulic ejection system. Israeli Defence Minister Ehud Barak told Spiegel that Germans should be "proud" that they have secured the existence of the state of Israel "for many years."

Vendor-financing for WWIII FTMFW.

Der Spiegel: Israel Deploys Nuclear Weapons on German-Built Submarines

A German shipyard has already built three submarines for Israel, and three more are planned. Now SPIEGEL has learned that Israel is arming the submarines with nuclear-tipped cruise missiles. The German government has known about Israel's nuclear weapons program for decades, despite its official denials.

Germany is helping Israel to develop its military nuclear capabilities, SPIEGEL has learned. According to extensive research carried out by the magazine, Israel is equipping submarines that were built in the northern German city of Kiel and largely paid for by the German government with nuclear-tipped cruise missiles. The missiles can be launched using a previously secret hydraulic ejection system. Israeli Defence Minister Ehud Barak told SPIEGEL that Germans should be "proud" that they have secured the existence of the state of Israel "for many years."

In the past, the German government has always stuck to the position that it is unaware of nuclear weapons being deployed on the vessels. Now, however, former high-ranking officials from the German Defense Ministry, including former State Secretary Lothar Rühl and former chief of the planning staff Hans Rühle, have told SPIEGEL that they had always assumed that Israel would deploy nuclear weapons on the submarines. Rühl had even discussed the issue with the military in Tel Aviv.

Israel has a policy of not commenting officially on its nuclear weapons program. Documents from the archives of the German Foreign Ministry make it clear, however, that the German government has known about the program since 1961. The last discussion for which there is evidence took place in 1977, when then-Chancellor Helmut Schmidt spoke to then-Israeli Foreign Minister Moshe Dayan about the issue.

The submarines are built by the German shipyard HDW in Kiel. Three submarines have already been delivered to Israel, and three more will be delivered by 2017. In addition, Israel is considering ordering its seventh, eighth and ninth submarines from Germany.

The German government recently signed the contract for the delivery of the sixth vessel. According to information obtained by SPIEGEL, Chancellor Angela Merkel made substantial concessions to the Israelis. Not only is Berlin financing one-third of the cost of the submarine, around €135 million ($168 million), but it is also allowing Israel to defer its payment until 2015.

Merkel had tied the delivery of the sixth submarine to a number of conditions, including a demand that Israel stop its expansionist settlement policy and allow the completion of a sewage treatment plant in the Gaza Strip, which is partially financed with German money. So far, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has met none of the terms.


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Mon, 06/04/2012 - 08:59 | 2491273 midgetrannyporn
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Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:18 | 2491328 SilverTree
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"Israel has a policy of not commenting officially on its nuclear weapons program."

...But will go to war over your Nuke program.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:21 | 2491346 flacon
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Instead of wasting the country's resources of building war machines, or mutually assured destruction weapons, here's an alternative idea:


I say let the leaders of the world have a fight to the death. The winner gets to behead the looser's wife and kids and relatives. 


Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:39 | 2491417 BLACK_DOG
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It worked in Russia!

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 10:41 | 2491843 fourchan
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so, germany and the old nazi companys that were never dismantaled after the war, sell iran

the centerfuges so the final solution can be carried out by the mindless muslems

(see the documentary stealing the fire) then they make u boats for germany to

defend themselves with? lol thats rich on a hitlarian scale.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 12:03 | 2492216 Sandmann
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and the old nazi companys that were never dismantaled after the war


Course they were you idiot. Their factories were dismantled and transported to Russia. The Allies dismantled so much of German industry

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 13:24 | 2492543 Oh regional Indian
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The Allies lost WWII.

Google the DVD. It will all become clear.


Mon, 06/04/2012 - 13:20 | 2492478 Pampalona
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'I say let the leaders of the world have a fight to the death'

Putin would win, then we'd be stuck with him as king?

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:21 | 2491347 greyghost
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be the first on your block to have the latest model of the u-boat. form your first very own wolf pack. deep discounts when bought at wolf pack levels!!!!!!!!! see your hostess for more details!!!!

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:38 | 2491413 Normalcy Bias
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One thing's for sure - they didn't pay retail price for these subs.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 10:41 | 2491842 prole
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Not only is Berlin financing one-third of the cost of the submarine, around €135 million ($168 million), but it is also allowing Israel to defer its payment until 2015.

Did they say that with a straight face? Everybody knows who is going to pay for these.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 17:13 | 2493553 New World Chaos
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Get the sub now, pay for it with the worthless paper they know is coming by 2015, break promises regarding the Palestinians, stuff the sub with nukes and wipe out Iran.  Germans love it because it improves their karma.  Stupid Goyim.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 22:01 | 2494518 neidermeyer
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SWEET! I want one ... and I can afford it easily on those terms ... I should be able to buy a cargo container of Euro's in 2015 to make the balloon payment for about the same as a slurpee and a hot dog.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:25 | 2491364 resurger
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i wish for once in my life time to read something postive about this cancer state.


Mon, 06/04/2012 - 12:21 | 2492276 Ironmaan
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Of course they'd "go to war over your nuclear program". When you continuously say you are going to drive Israel into the sea and "wipe them off the map", they'd be a fool not to. Here's a thought....leave Israel alone to the Oasis they created, and the surrounding nation states can be left alone to the 3rd world existence they have created for themselves.

All you dopes out there shilling for a culture that stone women to death, kills gays, kills infidels/ non Muslims, drives planes into buildings, blows up their own children in the name of Allah.....well I hope that you and yours reap this stuff personally cause your either too weak say something and take a stand or too stupid to see the difference between evil and good. Maybe first hand experience will enlighten you to the truth.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 12:55 | 2492411 General Decline
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"drives planes into buildings,"

I'm not familiar with this. When did this happen?

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 15:21 | 2493022 JeffB
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Former CIA asset, Susan Lindauer, throws into question details about the 911 attack:

CIA WhistleBlower EXPOSES Everything! "Extreme Prejudice" - YouTube


Mon, 06/04/2012 - 12:23 | 2492283 Ironmaan
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Of course they'd "go to war over your nuclear program". When you continuously say you are going to drive Israel into the sea and "wipe them off the map", they'd be a fool not to. Here's a thought....leave Israel alone to the Oasis they created, and the surrounding nation states can be left alone to the 3rd world existence they have created for themselves.

All you dopes out there shilling for a culture that stone women to death, kills gays, kills infidels/ non Muslims, drives planes into buildings, blows up their own children in the name of Allah.....well I hope that you and yours reap this stuff personally cause your either too weak say something and take a stand or too stupid to see the difference between evil and good. Maybe first hand experience will enlighten you to the truth.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:18 | 2491335 knukles
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Men, we need some new made up pictures of Commander Strangelove in the situation bunker. 
I know he's fucking golfing.
No, that does not mean he cannot be there.
No, just use some other picture.
Oh for fuck's sake, do I have to do the cut and paste myself?
Myrtle, where's the Elmer's?

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:00 | 2491277 The Reich
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Flood the tanks!

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:01 | 2491281 Frastric
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Bullish! Until MAD happens!

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:02 | 2491285 mjk0259
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If Germany didn't do it, the US would have. Probably paid for with US aid anyway. Worst case, the Israeli's could figure out how to make one themselves - wouldn't be the best but neither are the people looking for them.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:18 | 2491332 Cortez the Killer
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It will be nice when those subs go fully operational and empty their nuclear cargo into Mullah Incorporated.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:59 | 2491558 JOYFUL
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Yur "mullah incorporated, geniusboy, is a direct subsidiary of CIA Corp, which is in turn a spinoff of Mossad LLC...

it's very unlikely that they're going to turn weapons upon each other, but, we can alway hope!

Yur bonus package has just vaporized.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:02 | 2491289 The Count
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The Europeans were always, and still are, totally schizoid regarding weapons. Some of the most restrictive laws for civilians, but export? As long as they are not blatently used in some regional conflict. Hmmm, now what exactly are guns for one may ask.... Well, that's Euro-Think for you.



Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:12 | 2491315 smb12321
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I've also noticed the schizoid nature of Europeans in their treatment of Israel.  They are historically antisemitic and after a brief respite following WW2 Israel is once again Bad Guy No 1 on the continent.  Yet this won't stop them from selling weapons. You are right - the German move (actually a big yawn) was simply a couple of years shortcut for Israeli scientists.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:19 | 2491340 Coldcall
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Israel is only a bad guy for the weirdo lefty europeons. Germany has always helped Israel, no doubt much of it, because of genocide guilt.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 10:17 | 2491703 The Count
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Not quite right. The left in Europe is pro immigration, pro israel, pro EU. The FDP and other so-called extreme right groups (demonized by the left-liberal jewisch media) are the ones critical of uncontrolled immigration, blind Isreal support etc.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 11:02 | 2491953 kikkoman
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you should have you head checked.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:03 | 2491290 Patriot Eke
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Iran has subs that can fire Russian nuclear tipped weapons as well.  We'll never have a nuclear war though.  Oh, no.  That's never going to happen.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:03 | 2491292 cossack55
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Das Nook Boot

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 15:33 | 2493049 JeffB
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Don't start rumors.

Dominique Strauss-Kahn will be wanting to order his very own Nooki Boot.

As if the French don't already have enough of a balance of trade issue with the Germans.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:03 | 2491293 gimli
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Hmmm .... that's just not Kosher. But I guess they need those

nuclear missiles to get rid of the Irani threat of nuclear missiles.

OK -- now I feel better about it. 

Can I have some mustard and a potato knishe with that sub?

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:04 | 2491294 goldnguns
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Old news.  We've known for decades.  And they are a very professional group of bubbleheads.  I assume they still have one parked right off Bandar Abbas. 

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:09 | 2491306 TrumpXVI
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Ja, ja!  Bobbleheads und unterseebooten; sehr gut!

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:33 | 2491396 Winston Churchill
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Or Virginia Beach.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 10:10 | 2491652 Don Diego
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and how do they get there? the sub base in Israel is on the Mediterranean coast. That means to get to Iran's coast they need either go through the Cape in South Africa or through the Suez Canal. Are the Egyptians going to let them through?

Those nuke boats are not to use against Muslims, they are against the world. They represent Israel's insurance policy,m if they are ever overrun they will threaten the West (including Germany) with destruction if they are not helped.

You are so smart Angela, you gave for free to your people's mortal enemies a terrible weapon, may you burn in hell.


Mon, 06/04/2012 - 11:08 | 2491985 Mugatu
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Israeli cruise missle supposedly has the range to hit Iran while in Israeli port.   Just like the US, they want a deterrent that cannot be hit with a first strike. 

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 14:51 | 2492924 Don Diego
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I am not sure the Americans in Irak and the Saudis (equipped with AWACS)  would be very comfortable having those nuclear-tipped cruise missiles flying over their territory.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:04 | 2491295 Patriot Eke
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The real question to ask is, "If the Germans make the sub and only need the nukes, what's stopping the Israelis from making the trade in reverse?"  The Germans would love to get some nukes for their subs too!

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:09 | 2491303 midgetrannyporn
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Germany and Japan do not have nuclear weapons by choice.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:15 | 2491324 malikai
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Yea, and Israel doesn't have nukes.. heh.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:22 | 2491351 Patriot Eke
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Nuclear weapons never get bought, sold, or traded from one nation state to another either.  We'll always know who's responsible when the next one goes off therefore.  "Made in Israel" always means "Delivered by Israel."  The same is true about Russian and other nuclear weapons too of course.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:33 | 2491389 malikai
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We'll always know who's responsible when the next one goes off therefore.

Actually, this is somewhat true. As there is something of a signature in the remains of a weapon's fission products. It was used all the time during the atmospheric testing days to profile yield and/or identify the source, even down to the producing reactor of the fuel used in weapons. 

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:06 | 2491299 gwar5
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Shiney submarines! I want one.


Do they come pre-loaded with nukes, or do I have to multitask a Russian mobster for that? 


Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:07 | 2491300 YuropeanImbecille
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It will not be as much fun when these zionist-satanist use their Nukes on the western world.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:14 | 2491320 smb12321
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It's official - you're a moron.  Jesus, at least try for something slightly original.  Yeah, we can all see Israel launching an attack against the UK or US. 

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 10:10 | 2491620 JOYFUL
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in keeping with the theme of the article, yu've just become a sub-moron, in fact, a veritable AAdmiral* of sub-moronity....

Sionist terror statelet of israel is currently holding the west hostage under threat of nuclear bombardment....

when yu get a chance,[or pull yur head outta yur pants] get caught up on the major news  stories of the last 40 years ol sock.

*(but that's unofficial...officially yur still ranked here as Buttons, the Cabin Boy...OH BOY OBOUY!)

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 10:22 | 2491736 Tompooz
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400 nuclear bombs are more than is needed to vaporize the arab world and Iran.

Be sure that a number is kept in reserve to "persuade" the West not to choose the "wrong" side.


Mon, 06/04/2012 - 11:21 | 2492048 YuropeanImbecille
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It is painfully clear that the Zionist-Satanist have decided to get rid of white people, because they hate Jesus.


An Israeli professor and military historian hinted that Israel could avenge the holocaust by annihilating millions of Germans and other Europeans.
Speaking during an interview which was published in Jerusalem Friday, Professor Martin Van Crevel said Israel had the capability of hitting most European capitals with nuclear weapons.
"We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets of our air force."
Oh Sorry! I forgot it is ANTISEMITIC TO POINT OUT WHAT THE SATANIST-ZIONIST REALLY DREAM ABOUT! We idiot Goyim should just kill ourselves in the name of getting rid of antisemtisim, right? you fucking satanist asshole?

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:16 | 2491329 Tirpitz
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Some toxic nukes they planted already inside the Western banking system...

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:08 | 2491301 Silverhog
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Das bummer

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:08 | 2491304 spanish inquisition
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Wow, didn't see this coming. Who could of thought that supplying a rogue nuclear nation with convertable subs could go wrong?

Hey! Can we invade Germany again?

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:25 | 2491359 Patriot Eke
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Please consider that the Germans probably have nuclear weapon carrying subs, thanks to the Israelis, before making that decision.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:09 | 2491305 Manthong
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All good..

as long as each boat includes their cypher machines.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:10 | 2491309 I am a Man I am...
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this makes zero sense to me

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:10 | 2491310 urbanelf
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Anblasen.  ANBLASEN!!!

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:11 | 2491312 LoneStarHog
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A whole new sub market, huh?  I hear that Jason is in talks with Subway to IPO a nuke spinoff.  Now if that IPO goes nuclear...well...nuff said!

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:12 | 2491314 Monedas
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Tools for my Jews....put them to good use !      Germans are as tight with Israel as we are with Viet Nam ?  War remorse ?  Whatever, it's working !   Israel, one of the few states, which can be trusted with nuclear weapons !  Civilized, free market, democracies (if there are any left) have nothing to fear !       Monedas    1929      Comedy Jihad Magic Mushroom Cloud Tour

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:14 | 2491322 guiriduro
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See where all that lovely US subsidy ends up.

Seriously, six nuke subs... and the eyes of the world on Iran for supposedly being the dangerous unstable (almost) nuclear armed state of the Middle east.  Somebody put Israel out of our misery. 

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:15 | 2491323 Coldcall
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so what? I just hope Israel has time to lob a few at the farking Iranians before she herself gets nuked.

About time the Germans did something useful.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:21 | 2491348 Tirpitz
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The current hope is rather those subs get filled with Cyclone B for the righteous recipients. Wipe them out, give peace a chance on Earth.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:32 | 2491394 Coldcall
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well good luck with that...go on be a hero

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 10:47 | 2491876 prole
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You are the hero who blew away the USS Liberty.

Next time you attack our ships you can use Unterseaboot nein?

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:33 | 2491397 Acorn10012
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Indeed. What's Germany's motive?

1) Profit
2) Guilt
3) Gas chamber part deux via Trojan Horse submarine

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 10:37 | 2491815 LFMayor
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Cyclone B?  Is that some new sports drink?  Or a new model Mecury under an old placard?

fucking retard, can't you at least cut/paste from Wikipedia let alone understand that that fucking infamous insecticide doesn't really make a good tactical chemical agent in a real world attack.

You fail because of You.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:47 | 2491464 resurger
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The Germans dont owe them shit, and even if what you say is true, after Iran they will come and Nuke the fuck out of them

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:18 | 2491333 WoodMizer
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Ahmadinejad and Putin meet in China:

U.S. and Germany side with Isreal

Teams are being picked for the next round of dodgeball.

I wish there was a safe place to watch and stay out of the conflict.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:25 | 2491365 Ratscam
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Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:55 | 2491537 shovelhead
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Madagascar is safe.

Nobody would nuke little Mort.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 12:01 | 2492212 Overfed
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Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:19 | 2491341 forrestdweller
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everybody knows israel has nukes. this has been common knowledge for years and years.

and it does not mean we are moving closer to war by selling israel some submarines. that is nonsense.


Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:22 | 2491352 kralizec
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Well, since many European nations helped build much of the infrastructure Iran leveraged to create their present day nuclear program (with Russian technical help and nuclear fuel, don't forget!) it only makes sense Germany continues to honor its obligation to Israel, who is in the Persian crosshairs after all.  And meanwhile China, North Korea and Russia provide ships and subs to Iran without nary a whisper of condemnation from these quarters.  Interesting.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:57 | 2491556 Sandmann
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The Shah had a nuclear programme as well and he worked with South Africa

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:23 | 2491353 Coldcall
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and since the Germans made it, probably a very good quality buying chinese made shit. The israelis might be many things, but one of them is not stupid.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 10:42 | 2491837 giovanni_f
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quality - yes. That's why they didn't even consider buying US stuff...

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 10:49 | 2491889 prole
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You are right; they never buy US stuff because they get all they want for free

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:23 | 2491355 Blue Dog
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Supplying Israel is a good thing. Supplying Saddam Hussein was a bad thing.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:25 | 2491360 ElvisDog
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Do they still call them U-boats? I always thought that was a cool name.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:32 | 2491393 Monedas
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Yeah !  Pardon my German:   U is for "unter wasser boot"....under water boat !  In plain Monedian Deutsche      1929       Comedy Fatwa Arms Race Tour

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:56 | 2491548 Sandmann
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Unterseeboot  which is German for Sub-Marine Boat

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:25 | 2491362 frenchie
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and when you remember that (international/sionist) jews stabbed germany in the back at the end of WW1... and how the same raped germany at the end of WW2... gosh...

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:30 | 2491380 Coldcall
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well they sure as hell had good reason to rape Germany anyway they could post ww2, if one believes your pretext to begin with....which i dont as a matter of fact.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 10:52 | 2491908 prole
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Hey I heard they are going to re-commission the USS Liberty. How long till you sink it again?

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:36 | 2491375 Monedas
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Israel....the tip of the spear !  It's even shaped like a spear tip....plunged deep into the swiney flesh of the region ! (Boy, did I tone that down !)       Monedas Happy       1929       It's later than you think....all is well !

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:31 | 2491388 GubbermintWorker
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Is this shit real? I mean, one of those pics are a very lame photo shop. Why fuck up an article with the likes of that?

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:34 | 2491402 Monedas
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What did you expect....BLUEPRINTS ?

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:33 | 2491390 ArrestBobRubin
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What a super-responsible act for the Germans to perform! See, one always wants to give religious fanatics with a superiority complex and a Samson Option nuclear weapons, and delivery systems so they can be lovingly sent to wherever said self-chosen religious fanatics may decide.

It's just a smart policy decision driven by nothing but integrity and common sense. I have no doubt this will end super-well.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:32 | 2491391 IrritableBowels
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Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:35 | 2491403 Freewheelin Franklin
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Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:35 | 2491408 kato
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Bash Bash and Bash Germany time is it? Get on the bandwagon you ZH. Hardly a 'new' news item, but for current 'you had better bail us out Germany' crowd, adding the military angle is sooo convenient. It is good they have subs. And if they have nukes, then they can have an effective deterrent. The German-as-war-monger thing is pure bullshit - but they are formidable: as T.E. Lawrence said when he came upon them in the desert and they stood and fought, [something like] "I was proud of my race".

Why don't you include all of the militarism that the US provides Israel - and quite frankly, it is a nasty neighborhood and if I were Israel, I would want some good weapons too. But it is bash Germany time and ZH has joined the bandwagon of ignorance.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:37 | 2491412 Freewheelin Franklin
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Bash the Fash.

- Alex Streakal

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:42 | 2491432 Coldcall
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no, most of the vitriol is directed at Israel or read "jews". Zero Hedge has a global reputation as being a hive of antisemetism.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 10:54 | 2491919 prole
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That's funny, this thread looks like a Likud Party reunion to me Bibi

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 10:55 | 2491891 giovanni_f
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Germany does well in the current environment while the rest, US and UK included, sucks. Clearly, Germany has to be bashed. The mere fact that Germany does well notwithstanding its "socialist" health care system should be reason enough to wipe the crauts from the map once and for all.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:39 | 2491418 shovelhead
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Obama: "Bibi, are you fucking crazy? No, you can't buy US subs for nukes...I got an election to win here. They'd kill me.

How about some nice solar panels instead? I can get em for you cheap? Windmills? How about some nice GM Volts...

Yeah, they come with flames. Very choomba."

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:45 | 2491438 Monedas
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Let's put it this way....where the phuck would Israel be if it didn't have nukes ?  "Nukes are the "Peacemakers", the equalizers that makes every man a mensch !"....Wyatt Burp                      Monedas      1929        Comedy Circumcision and Bar Mitzvah Tour

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:47 | 2491473 LFMayor
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Voss und Blohm green shoots, Bitches!

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 10:01 | 2491587 Sandmann
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HDW actually a sub of Thyssen-Krupp

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:48 | 2491477 Coldcall
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Those subs are brilliant a total game changer and insurance policy for Israel. With 4 of those hidden beneatht eh waves at all times only a suicidal lunatic would nuke israel.

Israel is what the world made her, get used to it, you sad fuckers.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 10:55 | 2491926 prole
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That's right biatches, and anyone who complains just remember the USS Liberty and how we deal with our slaves

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:54 | 2491509 Sandmann
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Yes the stupid Americans again ! Poor Germany, makers of the best diesel submarines around they are forced by the Holocaust Lobby to help Israel out wherever possible so they sell them the same diesel subs the Greeks buy and the stupid Australians build their own Collin class subs which are inferior.  Anyway, the USA connives with Israel using torpedo-tube launched cruise missiles with nuclear warheads to discourage Iran from first-strike.

Now the Germans get blamed for preventing a Jewish Wipeout. Was a nation ever as demonized as the Germans ? Yes, of course - the Jews.......ZH really will have to do better research than recycle Spiegel articles recycling very old fact

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:57 | 2491557 Coldcall
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Mon, 06/04/2012 - 10:24 | 2491744 JOYFUL
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Whether or not this news is old or new has nothing to do with it's revelance Mr City of London...

the mere act of publishing it is the news is a tightly controlled monopoly of the sionist warmonger clique which backs up it's control of Euromerikas' political class with the threat to eliminate it's neo-serfs  by nuking them as well...

if yu feel discomfited by the unruly action of ZH defying this unspoken rule of the clique what owns the west, why don't yu speak to Rupert about a buyout?!?!

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 10:09 | 2491512 Monedas
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Nukes get a bad rap !   They ended WWII and have kept the peace for 67 years !  They kept the Commies from realizing their nefarious far ?  Hooray for Nukes !  Keep the enemy confused....dazzle them....keep 'em guessing....shock and awe...."garrote(carrot) and stick"....American showmanship !   Nukes made the world safe for the grandest Ponzi scheme ever !    "Pox Americano" !           Monedas   1929     Comedy To Face The Truth With

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 10:01 | 2491586 Coldcall
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hello? the only country in the world to have used nukes is the good old usa...and not just one....they werent sure about the total devation caused of Hiroshima so they re-tested...

i think its rather cheeky yankies lecturing anyone else on nukes, Israel or Iran...

So far everyone else has been more responsible with nukes than the us

germans have every right to sell products of which they are craftsmen to Israelis who need insurance policy more than any other country in the world.

Only dickheads could object.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 10:22 | 2491691 Monedas
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This dickhead notes:  After two nuclear bombs (a few days courtesy, reflection pause apart)....and an attempted military coup against still took the Japs another month to present themselves on the deck of the USS Missouri to sign the surrender !     Is that your idea of sanity ?      Monedas    1929     Liberals wanted a "demonstration" bomb ! That's Madeline "Fuel Rods For Peace" Allbright stupid/funny !

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 10:22 | 2491735 SilverRhino
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Sino Soviet War 1969 - SOMEONE used tactical nuclear weapons near the Amur River,

PS: That was the shittiest imitation of MDB I've seen.


Mon, 06/04/2012 - 10:41 | 2491838 LFMayor
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He was pulling peoples strings before MDB started... he just uses a different frequency to broadcast on.

+1 on your '69 border dispute.  Somebody sent a tactical nuke message to someone, during the communist divorce.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 10:03 | 2491595 Coldfire
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This should slow down Iran's defence program significantly.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 10:56 | 2491928 Treeplanter
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Permanently, I hope.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 10:03 | 2491605 NooooB
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Say what you want... I bet they are really nice submarines.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 12:13 | 2492250 optimator
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Israel should be proud, if you got it flaunt it.  They should name them Sampson 1, Sampson 2, etc.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 10:06 | 2491628 Fred123
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Fantastic! One more weapon the Israelis have to keep the muslim barbarians from the gates. Hopefully the mussies will increasingly kill each other and leave the rest of the world alone.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 10:39 | 2491821 JOYFUL
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Yur hopes have been dashed...Muslims have decided to get on with their lives and live in peace with themselves and the rest of the brotherhood of man...instead of buying into sionist strategies of division.

the only thing left is for yu to put that barrel in yur mouth and pull the trigger!

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 10:42 | 2491849 LFMayor
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Yeah, sure.   Islam means peace, or some shit like that.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 10:51 | 2491898 covsire
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What most people don't understand about Islam is that by "Peace" they mean once the whole world is 100% Muslim, there will be peace.  Atheists (That's most of you, i gather), will be either nervously extolling the virtues of prayer 5 times a day when the grand Mullah walks by or you'll be pushing up daises in a mass grave.  Only the lunatics and ignorant of this fact think any different about Islam, unless they already are a muslim.  Yes, i went there.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 11:30 | 2492098 JOYFUL
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Hey, I believe yu!

Yu sound like the kind of dope whose longest shot at full time employment was as a prison guard at Abu Ghraib...or did yu pull some strings to get a shot at killing civilians in Ghanistan? 

Now that's what I call scholarly, boots on the ground research!

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 11:05 | 2491970 Treeplanter
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Yes, I  think it's time for The Religion of Child Rapists to decide where the Global Caliphate will be headquartered.  I would say Bagdad in menory of the good old days.  Others might politely disagree. 

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 11:27 | 2492075 Jumbie
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And when the Chosen Ones take effective control of the world as promised by their desert storm god, the capital will be at the gloriously rebuilt nuke-proof New Temple, and all the soul-less goyim can be servants. goyim-were-born-only-serve-us

BTW, the hub of white child slavery in the world (re Amnesty International) is already there. And the parliment members talk in open session about having America under their thumb.

Fiat money is the New Weapon of conquest and enslavement. All I ever say is Follow The Money: who has it, who prints it, who influences how it's spent and gets the sheep to accept it.


Mon, 06/04/2012 - 10:14 | 2491684 JuicedGamma
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And dat is our masterpiece, de hydraulic ejection system. Ve give dem avay for free!

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 10:33 | 2491789 stiler
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having pangs of remorse?

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 10:48 | 2491881 covsire
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That so many now equate Israel being gone to World Peace is troubling.  Once Israel is gone, what makes you think that the uber-rational, uber-sane, uber-NOT-apocalyptic-muslims will give up their self-professed goals of world domination?  I don't mean a Pinky and the Brain goal of world domination, i'm talking it's written into their Koran, which just in case babies in suicide vests hasn't clued you in yet, they are dead serious about.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 11:13 | 2491983 falak pema
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forget the bible, the koran and the torah, think in terms of basic human rights. And, do not be angelic, nobody says wars will end, but killing innocents for ideological reasons and power play disguised in war of civilization, is extreme regression; we go back to pre-renaissance days and we and our progeny DO NOT DESERVE THAT, NOT FROM FIRST WORLD leaders  when the blood of our forbears was split to CONQUER ENLIGHTMENT AND HUMAN RIGHTS. Lets share these basic values now and not play sham saviours of the world for phony, crony, oligarchy criminal reasons; garbed infamously in name of Godly or superior  civilization values. 

Never forget its the Western leaders that callously fed the extremist muslim beast to fight Communism and pinko secular governments in cold war period, neglecting the backlash that would inevitably result. Our leaders created this Frankenstein for ourselves.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 11:53 | 2492179 covsire
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That you equate loss of human rights with religion is the first of your problems.  Not all religions are the same.  The human rights super-revolution in the last few hundred years was started by fundamental Christians who left the whore which was the Roman Catholic church and showed you what true Christianity was in the constitution.  No slavery, no wife beating was found on the page, but all that was still present because of prejudices left over from the old age.  The truth is, without God, your leaders will butcher you, your children and everyone else you know so they can remain in power.  Stalin killed 20 million of his own to feed his own pride and he won't be the last such man, as long as people keep putting themselves up on a pedastal.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 13:16 | 2492487 falak pema
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the truth is that history teaches us exactly the contrary, the more they invoke God the more they butcher in his name to exterminate "evil", that they incarnate precisely by doing it. AS "God wills it"  or "Allah ho Akbar" is the most compelling lie that exists for man. Fool's paradise, man's hell on earth. Grow up, this whole theme of 'My religion is better than your religion' is getting over stale and we've heard it for two thousand years. Same goes for "my civilization". And Islam will know the same evolution as the universal church of catholic faith. From inside.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 11:36 | 2492118 JOYFUL
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Didn't yu used to post here under the name  Xquistely Painful, or some such moniker, until yu just blowed up from the sheer magnitude of yur hatred n bile for the whole human race?

How'd they get yu pieced back together again Humpty?  Bet yur favorite TV show is the Munsters, right?

Babies in suicide suits? What will yur bosses think of next?

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 11:45 | 2492147 covsire
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I think you misunderstand, i'm just saying what is already going on, not that I approve of the practice, which I thought was obvious...

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 12:11 | 2492244 optimator
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I agree, those Muslins are taking over the world by controlling the FED, IMF, BIS, and the printing press.  Wall street is also filling up with those Muslims.  They must be stopped.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 10:53 | 2491914 Treeplanter
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Good for Israel.  Good for Germany.  India should buy a dozen or so.  Maybe Australia. 

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 12:07 | 2492231 optimator
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And, Austria, Mongolia, and Tibet.  They, however, will have to pay for them now, not some day.  I wish I could buy stuff on Israel's Fly Now Pay Later plan.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 10:58 | 2491923 falak pema
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Ominous signs that Germany now enters the military power game, not just the financial power game. Germany's plan B  will become clearer as this funny money crisis plays out; after the dust has settled one way or another.

Something tells me whatever the option reached; plan A : business as usual Pax Americana can kicking and QE to infinity and Euro Master plan masturbation, plan B : Euro zone breaks up, Germany creates own monetary zone, deep depression and financial reset and Germany comes out stronger as it has less debt than anglo or club med zones. And can take the initiative in Mid-East/Turkey and far East, Russia-China, as well RM rake off in Africa. If plan B Germany will play more its own game on world stage, in a scenario of heightened world tensions. 

Tipping times and neo-Apocalypse chimes.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 12:08 | 2492233 Overfed
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Germany has succeeded in establishing a powerful fourth Reich without even firing a shot. I guarantee that Germany will be ignoring Two Plus Four and arming up in a big way in the coming years.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 11:31 | 2492106 Bunga Bunga
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Old news. It has been known for a long time, but mainstream media "find" it out many years later and "brake" the story. 

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 11:51 | 2492173 JOYFUL
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This article is proof positive that ZH is fully back as the premier truth-tellin site in the West...the information contained within is so clear, so concise and consistent with facts, that residents sionists are left griping about it being not news[!:!>!???], while the gap-toothed B teamers are reducing to mumbling bout babies in bombvests


All that's left to do is put a simple summation upon the facts as presented and let the world see what was always invisibly visible:that Germany and the USA have never been more than lackeys of the sionist terror statelet since it's inception...and continue to operate under it's direct command, to the disenfranchisment of their taxpaying citizens.

It was a clever ruse, painting the sionist funded nazi puppets as anti-semitics...and convincing the world to imagine Germany as a recovering enemy of the sionist world. Nothing could be further from the truth...Germany has been controlled by sionism since before it put Hitler in power. Congratulations, ZH, I'm sure there were some rocky moments in the last 90 days, but it's great to see yu back steamin full course AHEAD!

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 12:03 | 2492219 Overfed
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Those Germans sure do know how to build a quality submarine. ;-)

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 12:38 | 2492257 JR
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Tyler, thanks for this article.

And still, there are those who would say that the international bankers do not control the German government.

And still, there are those who say there are no control wires attaching the German banks to America’s Federal Reserve System.

And still, there are those who say there is no direct connection between the state of Israel, international bankers and the control of politicians such as Barack Obama and Angela Merkel.

And still, there are those who say Obama is a Muslim and has been a difficult friend to Israel.

And still, there are those who when describing the German people and Germany’s influence in the eurozone crisis will use swastikas, Nazi symbolism and references to Hitler and WWII concentration camps when, all the time, it was not the German people who have been the friends of the Zionists but the German bankers in league with the owners of the New York Federal Reserve Bank, namely the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers.

For those who protest American and German foreign policy as hard-on-Israel, my friends, methinks thou dost protest too much.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 12:49 | 2492386 Pampalona
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They gon regret goin for the bimmer of subs, shit my x5 barely gets 15mpg, shouda got hybrids. Wonder if they got the sport package?

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 12:59 | 2492425 TNTARG
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Mh... Why isn't there anybody asking for NATO intervention on Germany featuring, having and selling freely weapons of mass destruction? Seriously, mass media's "free" information is a joke. A joke nobody is having fun with.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 13:29 | 2492567 tamboo
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Israeli Professor - 'We Could Destroy All European Capitals'

(IAP News) -- An Israeli professor and military historian hinted that Israel could avenge the holocaust by ... Most European capitals are targets of our air force.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 13:40 | 2492623 lolmao500
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Germany should have been wiped off the map after WW2 and given to the jews.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 15:26 | 2493041 vh070
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So they want to dedicate some tubes to nukes just in case.  The customer is always right.  MAD has worked well for some time now by limiting the scope of wars.  It's a mad strategy but...

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