The Eye Of The Eurocane Is Passing: Risk Back Off

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Wed, 09/28/2011 - 05:57 | 1717711 Racer
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But but but... the futures are soaring?

Wed, 09/28/2011 - 06:05 | 1717717 eigenvalue
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Because the Bundestag will pass the EFSF package this week for sure.

Wed, 09/28/2011 - 07:08 | 1717781 wang (not verified)
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Tom Keene just opened the show "the celebrations continue" as he recited the futures

his first question to his first guest  "what do the gloomsters get wrong?"


Wed, 09/28/2011 - 06:33 | 1717748 LongSoupLine
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Exactly!, Bob Pisani said this rally is 75% real fundamentals, which is why I took 75% of my total wealth and went all-in on Netflix, GE and HP.

In other great news, I'm highest bidder on a bridge some guy's, you all are missing out...suckers!

Wed, 09/28/2011 - 10:33 | 1718305 covert
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the future will be turbulant, exciting and progressive no matter how much the nihlist don't like it.


Wed, 09/28/2011 - 06:00 | 1717712 GeneMarchbanks
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Fire up the rumor mill she's losing steam!

Wed, 09/28/2011 - 06:02 | 1717715 pendragon
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somebody forgot to tell the eurusd buyers...

Wed, 09/28/2011 - 06:06 | 1717718 jmcadg
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Someone forgot to tell the Credit Agricole buyers. 

Wed, 09/28/2011 - 06:14 | 1717724 AngryGerman
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Trichet in the interview with Corriere della Sera:

4. European countries were urged to boost the rescue fund (EFSF) to contain contagion and avoid recession. What do you think of that? Could the EFSF be leveraged, for example, through the European Central Bank, or receive a bank licence? Or is it better to anticipate the creation of the ESM, as Germans suggest?

I call for the full and swift implementation of the decisions of 21 July taken by the 17 Heads of State or Government. And for them to stand ready to face up to acute new challenges in a period which is so demanding.


i.e. leveraged EFSF

Wed, 09/28/2011 - 06:16 | 1717726 yabs
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so why the stocks are up?

Wed, 09/28/2011 - 06:48 | 1717763 nmewn
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So they can be faded to zero into the close.

Wed, 09/28/2011 - 07:31 | 1717815 Ethics Gradient
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Ask Robot.

Don't ask him about bonds though. He hasn't a clue. Not in his programming.

Wed, 09/28/2011 - 06:17 | 1717728 Tic tock
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Well, if people aren't going to buy the Bonds and the ECB will not... what are you going to do?

Wed, 09/28/2011 - 06:18 | 1717729 Tic tock
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fuck only knows

Wed, 09/28/2011 - 06:21 | 1717733 Tic tock
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..and also, Tyler, kindly redefine your notion of Risk-off

Wed, 09/28/2011 - 06:22 | 1717734 Broomer
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I was going to complain that the order should be Portugal, Italy etc.

But IS PIG is so much better.

Wed, 09/28/2011 - 06:24 | 1717736 Gandalf6900
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risk on risk off

Wed, 09/28/2011 - 06:26 | 1717739 WoodMizer
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Sunk cost dilemma.

I plan to leave for a three week european vacation on Oct. 20;

airfare and accomodations have already been paid for.

This is a classic economic dilemma, but the risk of being stranded by Spanish labor disputes causes concern.

Any suggestions? 

Wed, 09/28/2011 - 06:34 | 1717740 Broomer
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Buy gold and silver.

And some books to read at home.


My English is not good, I read your post again and I'm assuming that "sunk cost" means you already paid for it.

If you can change destination, do so. Here in Brazil the post office and the bank tellers are on strike.

Now in my state the police is also going on strike. Just imagine something like that happening, or the shit hitting the fan while you are there.

Wed, 09/28/2011 - 06:42 | 1717756 WoodMizer
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I would change my plans but, I am going to visit my sister and 2 young nephews.

As for sunk cost:

-Airfare is non refundable and paid for

-hotel accomodations are also paid in full (by my sister)

-Food is already covered for 2 of the 3 weeks

-no car rental costs

- I am planning on spending less than 700 euro during the trip

Wed, 09/28/2011 - 06:46 | 1717762 AngryGerman
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so what's your problem? when the flight is delayed due to a strike, check your airline's terms to see in how far you are fucked... normally you have no right for another flight, but often airlines will still take you on a later plane.


and if you are stranded, get yourself some spanish chica and live the rest of your life off paella and roja

Wed, 09/28/2011 - 06:50 | 1717766 Broomer
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Take with you some extra cash to be able to get out by taxi/cab/boat/mule/whatever.

At the smallest sign of trouble get out as fast as you can. Gasoline has this tendency of disappearing when crisis hits.

Wed, 09/28/2011 - 07:44 | 1717844 Herman Strandsc...
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I would make enquiries for the ferry from Santanda in Spain to Plymouth England in case you need to get to anglo american territory quick.

ZH's in UK will look after you I'm sure. P.S: 700 zeuros ain't much at Spain's prices. Best wishes to your family and bon voyage, eh.

Wed, 09/28/2011 - 06:32 | 1717745 AngryGerman
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you can come, but bring some spare change if you have to prolongue due to strikes

Wed, 09/28/2011 - 08:50 | 1717980 ping
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You're definitely covered for subsistence and a flight back to the USA; and possibly for compensation, depending upon the circumstances.

Relevant EU law:

The Air Transport Users Council says: 'Regulation (EC) 261/2004 requires airlines to offer you meals, refreshments and hotel accommodation as appropriate whilst you wait for a rearranged flight. They should also cover any transport costs between the hotel and the airport. There are no time or monetary limits on the provision of this assistance.

Under EU rules, airlines must compensate passengers up to €600 if their flight is cancelled or heavily delayed, unless the situation has been caused by 'extraordinary circumstances which could not have been avoided even if all reasonable measures had been taken.'

The ruling that outlines these rights is Regulation (EC) 261/2004 and it applies to all flights wholly within the EU/EEA or Swiss region, or departing an EU/EEA or Swiss airport, or arriving in the region and run by an EU/EEA or Swiss airline.

'If your airline has not provided assistance, and you have had to arrange it yourself, our advice is to keep your expenditure to a minimum, make sure you get receipts and claim reimbursement from your airline when you get home.'

Phone your airline to check, but do read the act too.

Have a good time!

Wed, 09/28/2011 - 08:59 | 1717999 WoodMizer
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Should I bring bullion or bitcoin, in case TSHTF well before my scheduled flight home?

Wed, 09/28/2011 - 06:29 | 1717742 AngryGerman
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fund managers need to get back into equities. they have to take the rally (if it comes) from the beginning to get their tracking errors back in line. remember that most have defined mandates. and those who have freedom are desperate for any upside, as quarter-end reporting will reveal the bloodbath to many investors.

so depseration, coupled with optimism = equities up

Wed, 09/28/2011 - 06:33 | 1717747 sabra1
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i was wondering why the US futures took off!

Wed, 09/28/2011 - 06:40 | 1717755 papaswamp
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Bad is the new good...

Wed, 09/28/2011 - 06:36 | 1717749 Die Weiße Rose
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Europe: everything is fixed now, start buying the dip !

US and rest of World: everything is fixed now, start buying the dip !

China: sorry about the hot potatoes ....

Wed, 09/28/2011 - 06:43 | 1717757 Crunch
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Outstanding detailed interview with greek economics professor at Athens University on Dutch tv news show. 

Conclusion: "You are watching a farce, Europe about to implode."

Interview in english, program is 40 minutes, interview starts at minute 19.

Watch here:


Wed, 09/28/2011 - 07:32 | 1717814 Schmuck Raker
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Thanks Crunch.

Worth a listen everyone, interview itself is only 5-10 min.

"Greece is just a sideshow now..."

Wed, 09/28/2011 - 06:46 | 1717761 Mr_Wonderful
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The level of major resistance, the 50-day moving average, is falling quite rapidly. It was at 1230 when the last rally stalled at 1220. Now it´s at 1207 and the bull ran out of steam yesterday at 1195.

It´s an impressive run but still I think it lacks underlying strength. The internals aren´t really that impressive. Maybe they´ll be able to push it above 1200 but I´m sceptical. Still, the quarter end window dressing factor is probably strong. We shall see.

Wed, 09/28/2011 - 06:49 | 1717764 The Axe
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BUT...EURO President out flapping his gums today....Its not a "iceberg" its not a "iceberg"  stay in your seats, do not be afraid...please

Wed, 09/28/2011 - 06:53 | 1717769 AngryGerman
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it's not an iceberg, it's the whole arctis!

Wed, 09/28/2011 - 06:57 | 1717771 entendance
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BREAKING: Greece Departure From Euro Zone Inevitable, Issing Tells Stern

Wed, 09/28/2011 - 07:00 | 1717774 The Axe
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This rally should last as long as it takes to read his "transaction tax" proposal.....that won't make any Big Swinging  Dick happy!!!!  

Wed, 09/28/2011 - 07:04 | 1717776 rokka
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Time to blow the bonds bubble.

Wed, 09/28/2011 - 07:07 | 1717778 Robslob
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They will try and rally all the way through to that Banking Holiday known as Columbus Day (October 12th) when the 5 Central Banks begin their dollar infusions into Europe.

Wed, 09/28/2011 - 07:08 | 1717780 youngman
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Its wierd that Germany has no buyers of its bonds.....the strongest of the EU countires I have been told...but Spain and Italy had no problem selling yesterday.....what is up with that????one day makes that much different....or something much more sinister....Snidley Whiplash maybe

Wed, 09/28/2011 - 07:13 | 1717785 AngryGerman
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bc the ecb is not (yet) buying bunds

Wed, 09/28/2011 - 07:13 | 1717786 msmith
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Could Apple be topping out with downside movement ahead?  Bearish price action the last couple of days could be suggesting just that.  It could likely be a large correction.  Most people can not fathom the reality that Apple could drop in price, but it can and is it overhyped for the state of the economy?
Wed, 09/28/2011 - 07:55 | 1717875 Mr_Wonderful
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AAPL has been a winner in this lousy quarter so they´re selling that to dress up their losers.

It´s a great company with a strong brand, making tons of money.

Unlike major stock watering scams like MSFT, INTC, CSCO and GE to name a few, AAPL has relatively few shares outstanding. I think it´s a buy on dips from here.

Wed, 09/28/2011 - 07:57 | 1717883 TheArmageddonTrader
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Here's what I think is going on with this Greek bailout renegotiation talk. In a nutshell, Merkel is finally admitting privately that the numbers don't add up and has been secretly working on a plan to let Greece default while staying involved as creditors to Greece to try and keep it in the Euro. Won't work as planned but at least it gets the default rolling sooner.

Wed, 09/28/2011 - 08:16 | 1717920 disabledvet
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markets rally due to "Euro: Das Boot edition."
looks like the torpedo's are locked and loaded!

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