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Face-Off: FaceBerg Groupon'd At Half-Off IPO Price
"And yay verily it was written that as the moon passes thrice through the sky after providing your funds to the IPO-of-the-decade, thou shalt see said funds smite in two..." Faceberg just touched $19, that is a 50% haircut on its IPO launch price from exactly 3 months ago - but as CNBC's Simon Hobbs seems convinced...what about the short-interest? Ask JCP or GRPN! Well, easy come, easy go. Just ask Mark, who has lost half his net worth in 3 months. Do we feel bad for him and his $9.6 billion? No. But we will check back in another 3 months just in case.
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Damn. I can buy 9.6 Photoshop filters with that $9.6 billion.
You could. Or could knock one up in about 15 minutes.
Since Barton Biggs is in the heavens, I'm waiting for 'the Joes' (Joe Lavorgna, Joe Weisenthal, Joe Terranova & Abby 'Joe' Cohen) to tell me when these New Winners of the New World v2.0 are a buy before I dive in with two-fisted buying.
Ermagherd, Faceberg!
You idiots talk about the sell off as if this is just normal market activity ... this is a JOKE. How the HELL can the SEC just stand by and watch while these manipulative short sellers hammer the stock into the ground???
We're not done hammering yet!!!
Facebook getting people slaughtered. Can't wait for the Appletards to get obliterated.
Where is the PPT? Coffee break?
When all you space monkeys are talking about deflation you seem to forget the economic paradigm can be anything inbetween. Inflation in hard assets, deflation in worthless shit like facebook.
This is the great balancing act - vaporize certain monies, and leverage others. The PWG is likely short facebook to drive the deflation side to balance out the inflation side.
WHo invests in facebook? People with change to throw around. So the PWG just took away the middle class' play money, so now they can't buy gold, which keeps a lid on inflation.
So the point? It's all a big game, and the name of the game is maintaining the status quo.
anything above $10,000,000 is FU money.
FaceBerg has FU money and will for generations.
US creates such "new money" elites every 5-10 years to keep the system fresh. Isn't it funny how Harvard (east coast) and Stanford (west coast) produces young billionare every so often. Not from killing, slave trading, gun toting, but via technology?
better than some douchbag prince king royalty money in Europe
better than some military dictator money in Africa
better than some slave suicide factory money in Asia (who apparently now has their wives kill foreigners)
better than ex-KGB gangster money in Russia
USA is still in good hands.
et tu Aldous?
NSA - National Security Agency
http://www.facebook.com/NSACareers
I rest my case.
http://www.nsa.gov/Careers/
[Next US Government TV alarmist scene] We’re under a national security threat, Congress must pass this Bill immediately or run the risk of an attack on US soil. Any member who votes against will be construed as anti-American. Our interest is to protect the American people from known and/or potential cyber computer attacks.
Coming to a theater near you!
better than MySpace for $580million which in 6 years became $35M.....
but media is a tool of the elite.....control of media is priceless for the elites that why they keep trying to buy it and control it.
HuffPost.
YouTube.
MySpace.
FaceBook.
doesn't matter if they make money or not. If it is popular, elites/governments MUST control it to maintain power structure by silencing criticism of the entire institution of bipartisian politics to keep the slaves divided.
Can you imagine Facebook alerting everyone of Fed's scams and banksters doings on the front page of every user's wall?
Just got a job offer from them!
Just like that. Said I was a ZH regular.
So I lied, everyone else does too.
What are you, a mind reader or prophet?
Give it a rest asshole. Your posts are offensive and they suck.
That's comparing Apples with (rotten) oranges. Apple creates and produces real stuff, at least it has the possibility of growth. We can't say that about facepalm.
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"Oh please, don't sell me out,"
said the man with the hammer, hammering the anvil.
"I've been walking on the road of rocks,
and I keep on hammering, keep on hammering,
keep on hammering, hammering the anvil."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc9L06TqSDo
Robo Trader trolls better MDB
That's right. He learned on the Huff Post, Blaze, etc before he jumped into the 'Big Time.'
What a bunch of wankers the zionits are, con artists.
I guess they have always been here and always will be.
Anyone who invests in equities and doesnt understand basic fundamental analysis will always lose, so fuck em all, investors included!
I would much rather have Noli do me than Adobe.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4768811
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The fundamentals matter now less than ever. These aren't "markets" and anyone who tries to trade them or "invest" in them is an imbecile, since they'll inevitably discover, like so many before them, that the great equity 'market' casino is a place where savings goes to get vaporized by those who control the very real levers that control the flow.
Why is it that so many multi-decade, reputable fund managers essentially returned partner/investor capital, and literally resigned or moved on to other areas of work, in the last 3 years (I'm speaking of some notable names that had billions in AUM)? They knew that if you're literally not a best friend forever of the New York Whore Mother Branch of the Federal Reserve, hence getting face time with the likes of Dudley, along with lunch over at Treasury with Timmy Franz Geithner, to "invest" anything in the scam that is the equity markets is an absolute fool's errand.
If HFT antics and dark pools, being among just two examples of what is an extraordinarily rigged game, aren't enough to convince people that equities are the last place they should deposit their wealth into, then I suppose they deserve what they'll ultimately reap.
Equity markets are a rigged, fixed, broken, divorced-from-anything-rational latest iteration of radical central bank interventionism blowing bubbles.
Fundamentals most certainly do matter.
But one must recognize that the fundamentals have changed, dramatically.
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Indeed. The change has been so dramatic that they're now called fraudumentals.
Ben Bernanke's new FUBARmentals.
The worst part is that many of the factors that must be treated as "fundamentals" are unknowable or hidden at the time of analysis. Changes in 'rule of law' and 'property rights' are among the two biggies.
I would think you'd be pleased. You are still dollar cost averaging down aren't you?
The first 50 comments were kinda funny....now it's just stale.
Totally.
At least you can eat your Facebook shares :)
Robot Trader's Mom said:
Correct, as usual.
They'll probably go down a little easier if cooked together with some crow, followed by a dessert of humble pie.
How many shares do you have? I'll buy them all.
$0.01
Just you and me, bro.
Why the hell does everyone issue a quadrillion shares in an IPO, anyway? I like the Berkshire style myself. I watched a company I work for dilute the hell out of the shares and then try to buy them back later. This is one of my fundamental problems with stocks is that it is really not much different than the Fed issuing FRN's. I could buy 10% of initial offering and own ten percent of the company. Over time, the company can keep issuing shares diluting my holding or forcing me to buy ever more. The boards are always made up of other members who want to do the same thing. As I get older I see the traditional corporate structure is riddled with systemic problems and it is no wonder that so many companies barely last 50 years. GM went from powerhouse to poorhouse in a generation. Between incompetent arrogant self serving leadership and the stock manipulations they tend to fail just about as surely as the collectivist state.
I think Facebook is a good example of modern manipulated hype over substance. He will regret going public in the end.
HA HA! I'm shorting yer shares to zero bitch!
MillionDollarBonus:
Most people on this board know exactly what's going on. Ask any PM shareholder. Payback's a bitch.
Why don't you send an email MDB, complain a little, given your status and pull, you may get an investigation started!
They could find some little fish to fry, plaster it front page; SEC Stops Evil Facebook Speculators.
Log on MDB, click some ads, help pump that sucker up! Fight Back!
And Buy The Dip Dammit! $19.00 is real cheap ! And helps that cost avg come down too!
Cc
LOL ...my stomach hurts.
You're waiting for the SEC to save you? The only thing they're saving is on their corporate subscription to Brazzers.com. In the meantime, check this out -- Lockup Period
In a free world that is exactly what they are supposed to do...sit and watch honest trades. I think so many of these "tech" stocks are hype and crap. The revenue streams are sketchy. The actual numbers of users are sketchy. The products for sale or revenue are sketchy, but the names are big.
Buyer beware.
I'm one of the short sellers Laughing to the bank (mattress) APMEX. GC, whatever!!!!!
I guess they are getting back at Suckerberg for not trading in that hoodie for a suit.
I don't know about the rest of you, but I think Tyler should use the pirate voice more often.
Lol, check out the premiums on out of the money calls for GRPN, its almost worth the gamble to pick some up for the imminent bounce up, this things been beaten hard and fast.....and I've enjoyed watching its fall.
When is the DOW vs NASDAQ vs SP Face-Off at 60% OFF?
At 60% sell off you will have a
Facebook overdraft
yes but with NIRP they'll rehypothecate themselves into PE in excess of a google.
here's a funny one:
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/sec-shuts-down-600-mln-zeekrewards-ponz...
Maybe SEC should shut down all of wall st. the fed and itself simultaniously.
FB is a BUY at $4. Been saying that at ZH all year.
strong support at $0
The PPT have placed an HFT facebook buy order of 3,000,000,000,000,000,000 shares at 0.0015
Am sure the order will get filled in 15 minutes!
C'Mon comay, its worth at least 25 cents a share. After a hundred reverse splits.
Would you ever read advertisements while chatting on the phone? Then why would anyone ever read advertisements while using facebook? Broken business model.
it seems to me that they are acknowledging that they don't have a business model - they do not really have something to sell. Its a novelty which is getting stale - how does it improve peoples lives. And the big ad push is only making it more anoying and accelerating it to the downside. netflix has a product apple has products not all internet shit is the same
Analist:
“They’re still figuring out the best way to optimize their core business. And they haven’t quite done that yet.”
Have you ever seen a man eat his own face?
Earlier this morning on Bloomberg:
Jonathan Weil Says Faceplant Won't Go Below $4 Per Share: "Expiring lock-ups are a bitch..."
I love facebook salami, they taste good when they are toasted with sliced bread.
"THEN YOU HAVEN'T SEEN EVERYTHING HAVE YOU!"
if I had a dog that look this bad I would shave his ass and make him walk backwards.
Serious question: Is Facebook going away?
I am firmly in the camp that it is.
Yes, it will go away. Together with other stuff we don't need.
I agree....I have a facebook account that I set up about 2 years ago. Was fun and interesting for about 6 months to see all of my class mates and to see how all of the hot bitches got fat. That was it. Interest gone...after watching several of my employees do the drunken facebook fight with their girlfriends on an open forum......as well as all of my dumbass "Friends" posting what they eat at night. I am done...most people I know are done with it. This is a 100% win for anybody who shorts this piece of shit thing. You can ride this one from $19 all the way down. This thing will never "Pop" up in my opinion. It had its run, just like myspace, hot or not, Digg, and all of the other shit bag sites that are popular for a moment. I still love going to peopleofwalmart.com.....here is a video from that site...will make you smile.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghrDIQ-K8mg
LOL! I gotta wonder: Just WHAT did those two fools do to get arrested at Walmart??
They were wearing suits / ties.
At it's current pace it won't make it til Christmas (130 days).
Didn't they patent teenage gossip and narcissism? Oh wait.
IMHO, Facebook won't go away until something displaces it that will cater to most government and private sector wage earners, stay-at-home moms, the unemployed and college students.
So until you see something that caters to this crowd, it will be a while.
Also, the narcissistic tendancy that FB has seemingly hardwired into almost all of its users heads will be hard to dismantle.
You mean something like email and/or a telephone?
Vincent:
The video game generation molded non-personal contact. So thats why its so hard for these folks to pick up a phone today.
Email is monitored, can't be talking about how wasted you got last night if your boss can access it.
Perhaps Texting will be around for a while.
Sal
Diaspora.
Dude killed himself right? Both sad and suspicious.
Yea it sounds fishy. But having been in the tech startup world some time ago I could also see the possibility of him offing himself. It's a hard life.
Easy for you to say, but what about ME, ME, ME....
tweetbook?
Facebook's secret is they are becoming a gambling site.
unfortunately probably not
they will glom with netflix or hulu or yahoo
and die a long and pointless death a la aol or MySpace
What's Facebook anyway? I never used it.
A fad.
A fad worth 25 cents a share. In the long run, maybe 20.
Just another NSA database.
Yes the NSA/CIA put is in.
The government will be in touch with you soon
It's MySpace four years ago.
It's a place where married men find their old college girlfriends and where married women bitch about their husbands being on Facebook late at night. Oh, it's also a free look in to our f'd up social structure in the US as people put out useless drivel about their daily mundane existence.
And I think they have ads or something......
just pee'd my pants a little
well, that's a sour take on what sounds to me like a swinger's club in the makin......
long terry cloth robes
LOL Just eating a veggie Subway hogie and reading Zerohedge. My dog is better thanks everbody for your prayers!! Monday's suck! But just 4 more days till the weekend LOLZ! Here's a link to a funny pet doing something funny!
Nov 14th, kiddies. Mark it on your calenders. A billion more FB shares go unrestricted.
Those december Puts look cheap...
Yaaaaaawwwwwwn, wake me when it hits $1.90. Meanwhile: waiting for Godot.
At least Mark Zuckerberg will still be a millionaire...
I sense a book coming from him;
How I lost 19 billion dollars in six months
Didn't he get a billion cash on IPO day?
he is probably just a figurehead... a personality to sell this shit CIA/Mossad turd to the kiddies... none of this shit is real.
Wasn't Jeremy Siegal writing one? Facebook for the reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy long run?
Do you think that Jeremy will take the gas pipe on that LTBH theory? Maybe at the end? Or will he be right when NYSE goes all Zimb, all the time?
- Ned
"How to make a Million in the Stock Market". (Start with $2,000,000.000 purchase of Faceplant).
Why are we even talking about these two POS stocks, they both might be "fun" places to work and get a salary from, and both have social value (I guess), but as public companies, they are POS and don't even need to be talked about, we have such bigger problems in the world, then what these two foolish companies are doing!!!!
All stocks are POS these days. These are just the last couple that still have some sizzle left.
Why did you marry a non-yid?
Soon Faceplant stock will show up at fatwallet! with 4% rebate.
Oi vey!
Can anyone explain Zucker's marriage? Honestly? Was he high?
This IPO was insane. The amount of shares offered was insane. The companies that brought this to the public are frauds. So many good people have lost money on FB, because they trusted Wall Street. On and on it goes. Sickening.
Caveat Emptor, bitchez!
It takes a special kind of evil to use a facebook to "rip a client's face off."
I've been around long enough to never trust what Wall Street says. And I made good money off of that.
Is it possible that the 'many good people' are those clueless and greedy dopes who thought they'd make some quick, easy money ?
You mean the PHUCKING MSM. And they're STILL peddling it. Even this article doesn't say the term 50 PHUCKING BILLION. Somehow "your fired" doesn't have the right ring.
FaceBerg, FaceStein, whatever ... couldn't resist the slow pitch over the center of the plate.
Oh, I get it. This is one of those face half-empty articles
Obama reelection secret #3
nationalize FB
Don't cha' know!
Won't tell you 1# and 2# don't want him reelected you know
Yup, than and... Beer Stamps
Zuckerberg - biggest loser in the world. Ha Ha Ha Ha.
biggest loser? He had $8BB reasons to disagree. - Ned
he had a good run should start thinking about what he will do next
I'd watch all the internet based corps right now. The governments Utah Data Center is opening in September of 2013. There they will be able to watch all communication on all platforms. During 2013, I will buy a new devise for cash, not register it, not have any identifying info in it, and only use it to surf the net in a free wifi area. Of course I won't be able to come back here and post but I'll be lurking. They will also be able to capture cell calls, emails and texts. So take care of what you write or say to anyone. While the majority of us are good citizens, you never know what list we could end up on for speaking our mind. It would be nice if everyone next September 1st were to collectively go to the local shore or river and throw our devises into the water. That won't happen of course. Get ready though.
sad but true
the only safe thing left to do on the old pc will be to surf porn...like a good american
Speak for yourself. We transvestite midget horsedick anal cum gobbling surfers think we might possibly get victimized.
Of course, youre assuming the 'news' stories youve read/heard are reporting the truth.
For all we know they already have the capability and have been fully using it under some secret 'authorization' already.
The problem IMO isn't hiding, its that too many people are afraid to come out into the open and let their disapproval be known. What if a 100 Million Americans did so ?
My avatar is shinier than yours :-) You may be right. Especially sites like this full of people who see what they're up to. Perhaps I should buy that devise this year. I doubt that they'll produce a law requiring all devises be registered at sale before 2013. Hell, let's see if that happens next year. Then everyone will know what's happening. Well, not the sheeple, but everyone here will.
They are so already there, and have been "listening" for 50+ years.. Doesn't matter what the technology is. Its always designed to allow for "reporting" or has a back door to get in..
See: Carnivore or SATAN
For just 2 basic, old technologies..
There seems to be an awful lot converging around September. I wonder what the powers that be have in mind? As if we didn't already know? I hope you have a bulletproof vest. At least it will stop hollowpoint.
Next year Doc, but ya never know.
OT:
Now besides DHS & NOAA (the Weathermen) needing hollow points, apparently now the Social Security Administrations need 'em badly too...
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http://rt.com/usa/news/administration-rounds-hollow-point-768/
Any you homos touch me, I kill you!
Any you homos managing any of the funds I own buys FB and I'll...
Faceism
The twins Castor and Pollux. Castor is mortal. Pollux is immortal. It seems the raven of death rests on the shoulders of both... At days end, "I will engage in an involuntarily personal protein spill." George Carlin 4eva
Sale, bitchez...
Something tells me the Winklevoss twins are smiling today.
Where's that dope who was talking up FB here a couple weeks ago and how he was buying more of the stuff ?
We all take losses, that's part of the game. But he was such a jerk . . he definitely deserves this.
A stock on ... bath salts !
RED ALERT: GET OFF FACEBOOK IMMEDIATELY!
DTOM Contributor Brandon Raub Arrested By FBI For Facebook PostsWhat's the deal? I'm all the way through the comments and no one has mentioned that the correct form in the archaic obligatory usage is "smote" not 'smite, smittened or smited'. Are all of ZH's grammerians on vacation?
who has that kind of time?
Fred does. And he even posted it twice.
When in the process of mythmaking, anything goes. 'Smoted' is OK w/me.
What's the deal? I'm all the way through the comments and no one has mentioned that the correct form in the archaic obligatory usage is "smote" not 'smite, smittened or smited'. Are all of ZH's grammarians on vacation?
A face in the hands is worth two in the - no, that's not right...
Based on the market cap and my extensive technical analysis I think their plan is to try to fool the algos into thinking it's Ford, B shares, or something.
I like to think of Facebook @ $19 as The Battle of Midway. The real choice now for anyone who bought at the IPO price and held is:
Do I sell and still be able to say, “Well, at least I didn’t lose most of my money”, or
Hang on until you can say “Crap, I just lost all of my money”.
Of course, that assumes you didn’t leverage your original purchase to the max like many FB buyers.
On the other hand, if you don’t own FB shares yet (and that’s very unlikely if you really think about it), you could buy some now and then wait for it to trade at $9.51 before facing the fate of those in the paragraph above. Have at it.
I am sooo lovin’ right now those $20 put options I bought when the stock was trading at $26.
You underestimate the massive revenue that FB will reap from future Groupon adverts for Zynga game discounts for Netflix subscribers.
Maybe I'll wait till it hits $4 to buy. By fundamental analysis it should be worth about $10.
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Simon Hobbs is an interesting little Hominid. I still can't figure out with any degree of certainty, which evolutionary branch he was spawned from. " but as CNBC's Simon Hobbs seems convinced...what about the short-interest?"
He has his head so far up Europes ass, that I wonder if the U.K. exiled him to the CNBS U.S. division.
+1, thx.
"FB has hit a bottm" ...or is that "housing has hit bottom"...or Zynga....or Groupon.....
Talking about hitting a bottom, here is a girl who put the scandal button on her bottom hole and its the rage of the Internet :
Anal Tattoo Girl' Interview: Maria Louise Del Rosario On Dating, Jail, And Ink [NSFW]
I always knew that the only news worth reading is on the Net! Lol !
Two tattoo girl, what a tale to tell of a tail digger!
at $19 FB is still valued at more than $40B.
BARGAIN! Must buy more Facebook, can't lose, must buy more Facebook, can't lose, must buy more Facebook..
Good Thing - According to CNBS - Soros and other Major Hedge Funds were adding to their positions in FB. I thought Maria was going to orgasm as she started naming names of all the people who were buying. The stench almost fogged my T.V. screen.