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Facebook Details IPO Details, Issues Amended S-1

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Facebook has just released a revised S-1 filing (link) which list additional information on the IPO. Among the details:

  • The IPO would value the company at as much as $74.8 billion, based on a total of 2.138 billion Class A and B shares outstanding after the offering, assuming a $35 share price. Wasn't this supposed to be $100 billion?
  • Total shares offered wil be 337,415,352 at a proposed price range of $28-$35 (mid point of the range is $31.50)
    • Primary shares (proceeds going to company) will be 180 million
    • Selling stockholders shares will be 157.4 million: these proceeds will not go to the company
  • Facebook estimates: "We estimate that our net proceeds from the sale of the Class A common stock that we are offering will be approximately $5.6 billion, assuming an initial public offering price of $31.50 per share, which is the midpoint of the price range on the cover page of this prospectus"
  • Zuckerberg will do the following: "In connection with our initial public offering, Mark Zuckerberg, our founder, Chairman, and CEO, will exercise an outstanding stock option with respect to 60,000,000 shares of Class B common stock and will then offer 30,200,000 of those shares as Class A common stock in our initial public offering. We expect that the substantial majority of the net proceeds Mr. Zuckerberg will receive upon such sale will be used to satisfy taxes that he will incur in connection with the option exercise"
  • Zuckerberg would control over 57.3% of the capital stock voting power following the IPO
  • Facebook says it has $3.91 billion in cash as of March 31. It estiamtes it will have $9.511 billion in cash assuming a $31.50 IPO prices
  • The company reports $381 Million in Income from Operations; this number was $388 million a year earlier. Better watch those expenses...

Curious about the lockup conditions? Here is the full schedule:

A quarterly update including the latest Marc 31, 2012 quarter:

 

And big oops: did Revenues just peak in Q1?

 

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Thu, 05/03/2012 - 15:43 | 2394944 vast-dom
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FACEBOOK, CREATED BY DOUCHEBAGS FOR DOUCHEBAGS, EXCLUSIVELY.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 15:43 | 2394949 iDealMeat
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I Seriously hope the BATS guys crash it..

 

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 15:53 | 2394980 ihedgemyhedges
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It won't crash, in fact, our price target is $1000.

Sincerely, Henry Blodgett and Mary Meeker (based on our late 90's expertise)

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 16:14 | 2395053 The trend is yo...
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I can not find ANY positive feedback on facebook anywhere in the comments section of any FB article.  Who is lining up to buy this POS.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 16:24 | 2395080 ihedgemyhedges
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I hear people are finally taking their capital losses on etoys.com and pets.com and are just DYING to get in..........

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 18:13 | 2395123 Benjamin Glutton
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MY SPACE BOOK!!!

 

oh, that's why PokerStars was shut down.

 

Daniel Ray Carter and Robert McCoy were deputies in the Hampton, Virginia sheriff’s office. Were, that is, until they made the mistake of “liking” their boss’ opponent’s Facebook page during a contested sheriff election. They were both fired shortly after their boss won reelection.

As government employees, Carter and McCoy are protected by the First Amendment. Nevertheless, a federal judge in Virginia denied their claim that they were unconstitutionally fired for expressing their political view on the unusual theory that “liking” a Facebook page does not constitute a form of expression protected by the First Amendment:

It is the Court’s conclusion that merely “liking” a Facebook page is insufficient to merit constitutional protection. In cases where courts have found that constitutional speech protections extended to Facebook posts, actual statements existed within the record. . . . These illustrative cases differ markedly from the case at hand in one crucial way: Both [precedents] involved actual statements. No such statements exist in this case. Simply liking a Facebook page is insufficient. It is not the kind of substantive statement that has previously warranted constitutional protection. The Court will not attempt to infer the actual content of Carter’s posts from one click of a button on Adams’ Facebook page. For the Court to assume that the Plaintiffs made some specific statement without evidence of such statements is improper. Facebook posts can be considered matters of public concern; however, the Court does not believe Plaintiffs Carter and McCoy have alleged sufficient speech to garner First Amendment protection.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 08:41 | 2395827 ndotken
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Say what you want about Facebook ... but it has revolutionized the way idiots waste their lives.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 16:58 | 2395185 bank guy in Brussels
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Facebook is documented as a CIA company, set up with CIA funds, which was artificially pumped up into dominance by the CIA's Google - Google Inc. also documented as developed with CIA funds.

The CIA does much main recruiting at Harvard - going back more than half a century - and at Harvard they selected Mark Zuckerberg from the large group of ultra-Zionists there, to be the CIA dude getting wealthy from Facebook.

Zuckerberg is a CIA tool, as is arch-Zionist internet hoaxter and criminal Jimmy 'Jimbo' Wales, posing as the 'founder' of the CIA's Wikipedia, after his previous stint as a pornography meister, Wales involved in violating children as well as spreading lies on the utterly dominant Wikipedia, to smear and kill  Muslims of course, but also political dissidents from America and Israel. Wikipedia's Wales is so high in Zionism he attends private birthday parties of the elderly President of Israel.

The way that Google-CIA artificially pumped CIA-Wikipedia over several years, was practice for how they pumped CIA-Facebook.

The CIA funding at the origin of Facebook -

« ... funding into Facebook ($US12.7 million) came from venture capital firm Accel Partners. Its manager James Breyer ... served on the board ... of In-Q-Tel, a venture capital firm established by the Central Intelligence Agency in 1999. One of the company's key areas of expertise are in "data mining technologies". »
http://adventofdeception.com/facebook-ciacover-nwo-agenda/

Quite funny - 'satire' but truthful - Onion News Report on the CIA's Facebook project:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqggW08BWO0

'Ex-Agent: CIA Seed Money Helped Launch Google', retired intelligence agent Robert David Steele interviewed by Paul Joseph Watson, and speaking of the CIA's Dr Rick Steinheiser and his connections with Google:
http://www.infowars.com/articles/bb/google_cia_seed_money_launched_googl...

The CIA's main internet tool, Google Inc. at work - Here is Google's censoring of an important political refugee from the US in Belgium (whose avatar I use as a way of honouring him) - a Sachs unconnected with Goldman Sachs - who went to Harvard and the CIA tried to recruit him, too, but he became a dissident against America, and barely got out of America alive:

Live Photo: Google Inc. Caught Censoring EU Search Results (for USA - CIA)
Google Internet Censorship - Censure d'Internet par Google - Internet censuur door Google
http://www.flickr.com/photos/22325431@N05/6100668211/in/photostream

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 17:41 | 2395287 Sam Clemons
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A new reason for why I closed my account...  I feel like I have so much more time left in my life after getting rid of that productivity vacuum and no longer get mad about how stupid people are.  Some people post that they are going on vacation on that to get others jealous.  I always would tell them I'm going to rob their house.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 18:10 | 2395344 spastic_colon
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market top

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 15:46 | 2394953 Clueless Economist
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I agree...except for my wife...she is not a D-Bag

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 15:59 | 2394999 HD
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"my wife...she is not a D-Bag"

A Hallmark Hall of Fame Feature Presentation: My Wife is not a D-Bag.

Brought to you with limited commercial interruptions.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 16:49 | 2395163 Larry Dallas
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HD this comment made me houl in laughter.

"Starring Lisa Rinna for Depends undergarments".

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 21:39 | 2395651 Acorn10012
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Brought to you by Massengill.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 19:57 | 2395512 Pee Wee
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-1

Trade it, don't date it.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 15:45 | 2394951 101 years and c...
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i can honestly say i've never visited facebook.com.

im probably on a national threat list for not publicly (or privately) giving up my information for the .gov to steal.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 16:09 | 2395038 The Big Ching-aso
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Facespook.com?

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 16:52 | 2395174 DoChenRollingBearing
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+ 1  Very good!

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 14:57 | 2397738 Sokhmate
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Fecebook

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 16:28 | 2395095 vast-dom
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r u that self-involved???

 

(i +1'ed u)

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 15:49 | 2394961 rubearish10
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The fixation must terminate.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 15:55 | 2394986 ihedgemyhedges
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EZ, just un-friend it......................................

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 19:34 | 2395042 The Big Ching-aso
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Hopefully Facebook's IPO won't pop like a pus-filled pimple.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 15:50 | 2394967 1eyedman
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jump the shark

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 15:52 | 2394972 Aunty Christ
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FB is the perfect anti-cyclical gimmick, errrrr, stock. Its users are the ones that have too much time on their hands ( students, stay at home moms/dads, unemployed)

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 15:55 | 2394983 brewing
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pump & dump...

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 16:25 | 2395046 The Big Ching-aso
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What's gonna be the next big IPO after this to capture 99% of the internet market?    NudeFacebook.cum?

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 19:54 | 2395505 lotsoffun
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nothing.  the game is over.  and bernake can't be caught buying up fb stock directly.  now - when the crash actually occurs - i can't time or predict and i won't dare spend a dime betting, because big ben burns me over and over.  but this really is the last big fraud they can pump.

 

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 19:58 | 2395510 lotsoffun
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really - they doubled down.  they pumped the .com bubble and saw the results.  they pumped the housing bubble.  they pumped the russell 2000 bubble.  and now they are pumping the .com bubble again, hoping that it will pump the housing bubble.  double bubble, double trouble?  it's going to be a lot of fun.

i'm hoping someday to see bennie b. in a dive somewhere and buy him a drink and get him to riff.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 15:52 | 2394973 Dr. Engali
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Is this a joke? How many pensions are going to discard their fiduciary duty and invest in this turd?

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 15:51 | 2394976 HD
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Anyone "investing" in facebook deserves to lose it all. Of course, since retail is out - everyone will head for the exits as soon as possible....

 

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 15:54 | 2394981 youngman
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This IPO in the future will be the item used in all the books as the turning point of the great collapse of the USA markets and the USA itself.......this will make Green Mountain look like just a cup of coffee....what a joke....but it is all we will hear for the next 6 months...sorry APPLE...you just got kicked off the pedestal.....well at least I know the people buying into this hype will not be selling PM´s to do so....they are not that dumb....using fiat paper to buy paper of a company that is only electrons...wierd

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 18:02 | 2395330 Sam Clemons
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You are right, but unfortunately Facebook is too big too fail.  People voluntarily giving up their privacy is priceless.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 19:52 | 2395503 lotsoffun
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yes, this is the case study of tulip mania and east india trading companys.  and they know that.  very well.  and that's why it's the swan song before the black swan.  they are all praying (remember doing god's work) 'please, please, just let us get this last one out the door'

 

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 15:55 | 2394985 junkyardjack
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Faceplant IPO

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 15:56 | 2394993 no life
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FACETWAT

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 15:59 | 2395000 BandGap
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Is that an acronym for something or what I think it is?

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 16:15 | 2395058 The Big Ching-aso
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For cheating persons to connect better, I'm thinking of starting, TwoFacebook.com.   Whaddya think?   A winner?

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 19:07 | 2395446 The Big Ching-aso
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Well I guess I got my answer on this being a winner.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 15:57 | 2394994 BandGap
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There are TV shows where you watch people lose weight or eat bugs. Al Sharpton has a news program.

Facebook fits right into Amerikana.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 16:02 | 2395010 HD
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Yes, but is there a show where Al Sharpton loses weight by eating bugs? Now that's good television.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 16:14 | 2395054 johnjkiii
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When will it be on? I can't wait. Mebbe we can get Benny, Timmie & Obammy to eat bugs too!!

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 16:18 | 2395061 The Big Ching-aso
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Between Google, AAPL, and now Facebook, I don't know where else I can lose my money.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 16:37 | 2395128 CCanuck
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I would watch if were specific parts of Gold/Silver Bugs!

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 15:59 | 2395001 Whoa Dammit
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Oh hell, as long as everyone is making shit up, why not just IPO it at an even $1trillion value?

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 16:28 | 2395093 Dr. Richard Head
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Cut that price in half and double it.  You got yourself a deal.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 16:00 | 2395006 youngman
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No I think it will go up to $1000 a share..it has to beat Apple.....then one day it will have its Green Mountain day...and then it will become forgotten like MySpace is....just a fad.....and it will show the world just how fake out markets are....and how stupid we have become...as Arch Coal at that time will be going out of business because of regulations and crap....

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 16:01 | 2395011 101 years and c...
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im hoping GS crashes the markets prior to FB going public in retaliation for FB selecting MS as lead underwriter.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 16:05 | 2395021 HD
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That's out of the box thinking. Hope you're right.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 16:09 | 2395036 magpie
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Certainly imaginable that this kind of company will be nationalized immediately if such a mishap were to occur.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 16:13 | 2395048 HD
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They don't need it anymore. They built a multi-billion dollar domestic data center in Utah.

http://rt.com/news/utah-data-center-spy-789/

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 16:41 | 2395065 magpie
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Can't wait for that thing's IPO...as a mining stock.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 19:29 | 2395066 The Big Ching-aso
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How many Facebook friends does it take to equal one real friend?

 

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 21:46 | 2395665 Acorn10012
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Without benefits - 5,899,403
With benefits - 1-800-Spitzer

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 18:22 | 2395377 Ted Baker
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GUESS YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW THE WORLD OF FINANCE WORK

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 16:05 | 2395020 icanhasbailout
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What price a creepy data-harvesting corp in a world where privacy is at a premium and becoming more dear every day?

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 16:07 | 2395024 q99x2
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Can't wait for this bankster bribe to pay out and be done with..

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 16:09 | 2395033 Seasmoke
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Like/
Unlike/

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 16:09 | 2395037 johnjkiii
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I hope youseall ain't the majority opinion because my contrarian alter-ego say if you are, I should be long. Youseall is a nasty bunch.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 16:11 | 2395045 youngman
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Class B stock...0 sold..that is the voting stock..10 to 1 ratio to class A...

Class A..yes....no votes

 

What a joke...and this is legal......

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 17:29 | 2395269 Waterfallsparkles
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Agreed.  To put money in a Company that Shareholders have no say is crazy.  They will not get a penny from me.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 16:13 | 2395049 BandGap
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I like Facebook, I can keep tabs on my kids. And if anyone thinks it is a goldmine for personal information, they really do not understand what our wonderful government is capable of.

I wouldn't invest monkey shit in the stock, but Facebook does have a use. And it makes me laugh just like you fleshy headed mutants....hahahahaha!

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 16:22 | 2395072 The Big Ching-aso
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If my entire life was an open book on FB I think most people would just skip the 1st two sentences and go right to the final 3rd sentence.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 16:23 | 2395077 Rainman
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I really don't want to know what my daughters are up to....I really don't.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 16:27 | 2395090 BandGap
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Yes, you do. But you're afraid.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 16:42 | 2395136 Rainman
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Each path they take has the same destination....my wallet.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 16:30 | 2395103 CCanuck
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Did your parents "Keep tabs" on you? How did they do that? How did you turn out, without the electronic surveillence "tabs" being kept on you? Just ask'n

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 00:00 | 2395844 crawldaddy
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see thats why i think facebook has to fail, as a young person how is anythng cool or relevant if your parents use it?

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 23:58 | 2395842 crawldaddy
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it is a goldmine of personal information.  Its creates a nice tidy picture of people, their ties to friends, family, allows for pictures. My god the Nazi's would of splooged themsleves with such data.  In a society in which you can be discredited easily by those who you have assoicated with, it amazes me people make it so easy for third parties to have access to information that can be used at a later date.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 16:22 | 2395074 ThisIsBob
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Will ther  be a groupon for that IPO?

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 19:24 | 2395083 The Big Ching-aso
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I think Facebook is run by an alien life-force.  How else can U explain some people on there?

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 16:30 | 2395101 Zymurguy
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Zuckerberg would control over 57.3% of the capital stock voting power following the IPO

 

Doesn't really seem like a company going public... more like, "gimme millions of dollars, but I'll still absolute control as if it's still all mine, Mine, MINE, MIIIIIIINE AHAHAhahahahahahahahah!"

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 16:32 | 2395110 css1971
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You all realise that Facebook is a new social communication paradigm on a scale similar to the television or telephone?

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 16:37 | 2395127 magpie
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Nah, not really.

What is true though: It doesn't have any competition.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 16:47 | 2395157 southerncomfort
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a new communistic paradigm more likely -  it's too heavy - AOL-ish.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 17:22 | 2395255 Joeman34
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Only somewhat true.  The were sites before facebook.  Remember MySpace?  I’m not convinced the barriers-to-entry are high-enough to prevent new entrants with some new gimmick from disrupting entrenched players – even facebook.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 00:03 | 2395851 crawldaddy
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exactly and why did myspace die and facebook take over,  simply because one was cnsidered more hip then the other. As for facebook, how hip is it for a 17 year old to be friended by their mother and aunt edna?

 

Facebook is LAME...  and as for companies using it,  iys beyond dumb, all you get is comments that you suck balls. SO unless you are totally on top of things, your facebook page is covered with " you suck balls comments".

 

 

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 19:42 | 2395481 lotsoffun
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yes.  social communication for the glorification of stupidity.  i do not have a television, but from what i can glean from being surrounded by it in any public venue, in nyc there are something like 500 channels 24/7  and not really anything for an intelligent person to watch.  i reluctantly rid myself of fixed phone for a cell phone, and mostly i leave it turned off.  and don't carry it.

you got a problem with that?  i don't have a gps either.  i can read a map, and god forbid, if i did get lost, i might actually ask someone for directions. (real social communication). or put a quarter in a pay phone and ask a friend for help.   css1971 - it's all about selling you things you don't need and don't want and they dumb you down to buy it, and the fact you bought it makes you even dumber because you rely on it to do the things you could do if you had a brain.

the positive outcomes for humanity for things like phones and internet and telephone are probably outweighed by the greed used to get you to consume.

 

css1971 - here's a few.  you can probably find them on kindle if you like.  i'd burn kindle if i could (just realized how they are actually implying burning books).  classics - people reading these for thousands of year some of them and they aren't that bad.

bible.  koran.  tao te ching.  candide.  autobiography of ben franklin.  utopia - thomas more.  in praise of vanity - erasmus.  plate.  socrates.  etc.  etc.  a few other books worth reading.  preferably bought from a book shop with an owner, who decides what he stock.

i hope you get it.

 

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 22:32 | 2395737 Machination
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No, Facebook is not comparable to television.  The Internet can be compared to Television, or you might say that social media can be compared to television.

What is the total valuation of all television stations world wide, cable, free to air, satellite, (include internet VOD if you want or remove it).  Now what is the value of all "social media" sites globally combined.

Facebook, you could compare to Fox.  It is one company and service in a large sector.  Now they may be the largest company in that sector today, but so was Myspace.............

Facebook is not comparable to the telephone.  The Internet can be comparable to the telephone, in fact your ISP probably started as, or was acquired by, or has acquired a telecommunications company at some point in the past.  Now, of all the data that Facebook has about you, is it anything that your ISP and/or your fixed line provider don't know about you?  The only difference is your ISP milks you for money every month and Facebook uses your clicks to milk the markets.  

In this case Facebook I would compare to an ISP (albiet a large one), not compared to "the telephone" itself.  

I also fail to see the uniqueness or barrier to entry to any competitor except that viral effect, but that's exactly how Facebook overtook their competitors.  It is the fad meme spreading through society like a virus.  Then next thing ya know, the next big thing will pop up.  And Facebook will become the next Myspace........or they will become the vampire squid of the internet and expand into everything like Google.   Why did Facebook buy INstagram?  It is very simple, because Instagram was a great example of how Facebook core offering has zero barrier to entry and any little viral company can come around and pick up momentum and start getting the same users Facebook has.  Not a great thing to have a recent startup with huge growth grabbing the same subscribers as you have, especially pre-IPO!

Anyone investing in Facebook is investing in the ability of Zuckerberg to steer that Facebook ship to be the next Google.  My biggest problem with that is, we already have a Google and they are much better placed to be the next Google than Facebook is on all fronts, i.e.: management, talent, network infrastructure, vertical reach, mobile platform, cloud, enterprise, etc.  

Anyone remember the old Googlezon video?: http://idorosen.com/mirrors/robinsloan.com/epic/  

 

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 22:41 | 2395753 Machination
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And after watching that Googlezon video (have not done so in years): http://idorosen.com/mirrors/robinsloan.com/epic/ 

Who would have thought that the concept of spreading out media production and independant investigative reporting to the masses would actually turn into something like this: http://www.youtube.com/user/EpicMealTime?feature=chclk

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 16:35 | 2395114 DoctoRx
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A true-false question:

FB:Glencore as 2012:2011?

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 16:36 | 2395121 chet
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Besides being filled with solipsistic bores, and presenting very real privacy concerns, I find Facebook's user interface to be nearly unusable.  I can't believe they've been around this long and transitioned to a "legitimate" business without making their site intelligible.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 16:48 | 2395162 southerncomfort
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"I find Facebook's user interface to be nearly unusable..."  Hello - been looking around for someone to mention this -- feel the same way -- it's fat, heavy, stupid.  Can't stand fat programs. 

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 16:37 | 2395124 Joe Davola
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Sounds like Zuckerberg's gonna pay more in taxes than his secretary.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 16:41 | 2395138 penexpers
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"And big oops: did Revenues just peak in Q1?"

Facebook: you are fucking retarded.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 16:47 | 2395160 Zymurguy
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Facebook for me... nothing more than a modern day white/yellow pages listing and an address book to maintain contact information for 100s of people I've known in the past that I don't really have any need to communicate with any more.

If I need to speak to a real friend I call or text... and then it's usually just to arrange a time to get together for a beer.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 16:50 | 2395166 southerncomfort
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or join up w/ a ton of fake friends - like an OWS rally or Trayvon mosh fest.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 17:02 | 2395194 Larry Dallas
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I agree, however, the Baby Boomers have grasped this Facebook convention pretty quickly and has provided a boon to Divorce Attorneys. These are the ones who couldn't figure out how to set up their friggin' AOL email account. Much easier to use FB.

My mother-in-law left my father-in-law after 43 years of marriage after my wife introduced here to FB. I'm sure there were other issues but FB manifestly profligated this immediate divide between the 2 of them.

Anyone that has any hint of narcissism will certainly be enabled on FB if they aren't already. She was. There are hundreds of stories just like these according to my wife who spent countless hours on blogs researching how many marriages have been destroyed by FB. 

65 is the new 45!

 

 

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 19:29 | 2395466 lotsoffun
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zymurguy - you must be about 3000 years old like me.  i remember saying 'i will meet you at this place at this time on this day' and for the most part - it happened. it all promotes stupidity and anti-social behavior.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 16:49 | 2395164 omi
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I'll get 100 shares to see how it goes.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 16:54 | 2395178 walküre
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will it go the way of the ZNGA or fly high like the LNKD?

P/E 936 for LNKD. That's gotta be a record somewhere.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 22:35 | 2395740 Machination
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Its funny, as soon as LNKD went public, they started blocking out information, trying more and more to get users to pay.  I just stopped using it, log on maybe once every two months now to check messages.  The last thing I need is a semi-useful site nagging me for dollars.  If I wanted to be nagged for dollars I would just take my kids to Toys R Us its a much better user experience.

 

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 17:11 | 2395222 Stochdoc
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Those user metrics are brutally overstated.  If you click on a like button anywhere on the web, they count you as a user even if you do not have a Fartbook account.

I wouldn't buy this shit with your guys' money.

 

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 17:28 | 2395263 Stochdoc
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And I see Q1 EPS is actually DOWN!.  Margins are imploding.

Run Forrest, runfast.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 17:16 | 2395238 thursday0451
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WARNING WARNING WARNING
(this is off topic but important!)

Russia threatens to strike NATO missile defense sites
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/may/3/russia-threatens-strike-nato-missile-defense-sites/

Russia’s most senior military officer said Thursday that Moscow would pre-emptively strike and destroy U.S.-led NATO missile defense sites in Eastern Europe if talks with Washington about the developing system continue to stall.

“A decision to use destructive force pre-emptively will be taken if the situation worsens,” Russian Chief of General Staff Nikolai Makarov said at an international missile defense conference in Moscow attended by senior U.S. and NATO officials.

Russia warns on missile defence deal with Nato and US
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17937795

Russia says it is prepared to use "destructive force pre-emptively" if the US goes ahead with controversial plans for a missile defence system based in Central Europe.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 17:16 | 2395239 RopeADope
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Sounds like the Facebook IPO scam is about to crash and burn if all they are aiming to get is a 28-35 price. That is absolutely no premium to shares already sold.

 

3/7/11 Sharepost auction cleared @ $33 per Class B share

6/6/11 Sharepost auction cleared @ $33.01 per Class B share

8/31/11 Sharepost auction cleared @ $33 per Class B share

12/9/11 Sharepost auction cleared @ $33 per Class B share

 

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 17:35 | 2395275 Likstane
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Let me get this right.  You want 1 ozt of my precious silver for a reciept that says I 'own' 1/337,415,352th of a company that was created by douchebags for douchebags to practice douchebaggery. 

Yeah...ok.  Is there a limit on how many shares I can purchase?  

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 18:00 | 2395328 LULZBank
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You cant update your Status or play Farmville on your Silver.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 19:25 | 2395462 lotsoffun
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goldman.  zuckerberg.  nice.  your best investment interests.  i thought fb was cute. i had an account.  it was cute to see baby pictures for all of us, rather then parents having to spend time to send to me and other.  spend the time.  it's not so bad.  i closed my account months ago.  it's all pump and dump and get the suckers in on.  'investing' was finished as soon as the fed bought fh/fn/aig/gm/c/gmac etc. etc. etc.

 

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 18:04 | 2395332 noname
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LOL CLASSIC

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 18:12 | 2395336 spastic_colon
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Thu, 05/03/2012 - 18:09 | 2395341 chrispycrunch
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Fa(k)ebook will trade like Yelp, Zynga, Renn, or Groupon, in one of those patterns. The story, of course, will be distorted because "this time, it's different."

You cannot short this. Short interest rates will be expensive.

You cannot be long FB. Shares will give way when the holding period expires.

You can only sit on the sidelines and watch. Sit back, have some pop corn, enjoy the show.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 20:04 | 2395518 dolph9
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Facebook will die when generations of young people raised on it discover that it's not such a good idea to disclose your personal information to predatory strangers, and that "friends" you thought you would rely on when the shit hits the fan turn out to have their own concerns and live a thousand fucking miles away.

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 20:32 | 2395544 Downtoolong
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I’m so sick of the Facebook hype in the mainstream media. If the company is so great and valuable, why do they have to spend millions on a ten day roadshow to promote their stock prior to the IPO? Look, I don’t know Mark Zuckerberg from the man in the moon. I only know what his Wall Street and media promoters have told me about him. That pretty much goes for Facebook.com too. That’s exactly my problem. I suspect Mark Zuckerberg is very smart and reasonably nice guy. I know a lot of people who use Facebook, though none of them are willing to pay anything for it. But, Facebook’s promoters would have me believe that Mark Zuckerberg is another Bill Gates, right down to his goofy haircut, and that Facebook  is the next Microsoft. The truth is, Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook are a Musack version of the original Bill Gates and Microsoft. At least that’s how they’re being presented to us. They’re a Wall Street produced sequel; an attempt to follow a prior blockbuster with a new version packed with all the things that worked in the old version and none of the things that didn’t. It’s a new sanitized, politically correct, and dumbed down version of the original that will sell more easily to the masses with little conflict for a quick buck. It’s no surprise to me that Facebook’s Operations manager Sheryl Sandberg is also on the Board of Disney (Don’t even get me started on this phony bitch, who supposedly has purely humanitarian ambitions to save the children and is just coincidentally and unintentionally about to score a few hundred million for herself. I’ll believe she’s saving the children when she gives all her profits to them, and I’m not just talking about her children). This entire Facebook launch comes across like some fairy tale fantasy. But, therein lies the paradox. If Zuckerberg and Facebook are already so fucking perfect, why would I invest in their potential to get better? Sorry Wall Street, I’m not buying it.   

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 22:32 | 2395621 ZeroPower
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For all you bears, this thing being priced at $75bn at the higher end of the range is a nice old trick from the syndicate team to entice their big fish to bid even more for this thing.

Fully expect a $100bn valuation on this by end of the year, this is the most anticipated IPO i can think of from recent memory. 

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 22:12 | 2395713 adr
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SO what if like every other IPO con over the past few years, Facebook ramps like mad on the first day. You could see $145 a share at market open valuing the company at somewhere around $350 billion. Insanity, yes. Probable, yes.

Look at Linked In. That garbage company is now back at its IPO pop high and up almost 100% since Jan 1. Of course I think the rise in Linked is a holding vehicle for Facebook investment funds. Linked will probably drop like a rock after the Facebook IPO as the pump funds are transferred into the new scam Du Jour.

 

Can we please get an EMP burst over NYC. Actually make that Palo Alto and all of California.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 00:08 | 2395857 crawldaddy
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linked in ..LOL  should be called  laid off and desperate....noone with a job uses that site.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 00:06 | 2395855 crawldaddy
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facebook is the next aol and compuserve.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 02:38 | 2395969 knowshitsurelock
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Next thing you know, You Tube, Twitter and Facebook will merge and they will combine to make the largest social networking conglomerate on the planet, calling it "YouTwitFace"

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 05:42 | 2396062 All Out Of Bubblegum
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Here's how to drive the value of Facebook's stock down. It takes 30 seconds.

 

Find your "hosts" file on your computer. In linux/Mac OSX it's at:

/etc/hosts

 

In this file, put these lines:

127.0.0.1  facebook.com

127.0.0.1 www.facebook.com

 

If a large enough number of people did this, Facebook's inflated claims of "active users" would tank.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 07:40 | 2396134 marriedgeordie
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here's my take on facebook. this is essentially yet another advertising company. you can call it a social network, but essentially facebook sells itself to companies as a platform for ads, claiming that since people are on facebook all the time, if you buy ad here, you will be able to reach this enormous audience. google is also essentially an advertising company, so is yahoo and hell, most cites via which you do not buy a product directly are advertising companies. the issue is then what brings people to that particular site, and whether people will keep coming back for more (i.e., to look at the ads and potentially click through). more importantly, DO PEOPLE COME TO THE SITE TO LOOK AT THE ADS?

take google versus facebook. well, i come to google TO GET INFORMATION! google has made my life so much easier, improved my productivity immensely (i am in research). say, i am planning a trip and need a hotel. i go to googlemaps, go to my destination, and ask googlemaps to show me hotels nearby. of course hotels will want to advertise with this company, this will help them get customers. or i am looking for bikeshops in the area, i go to google. so, bikeshops will advertise with google. now, what do i go to facebook for? (i deactivated my account recently, so a more appropriate question is "what have i gone to facebook for?"). two reasons: check on what people i know have been up to and get in touch with someone i have not met for a while (for all the people i talk to regularly, there is email, thank you very much). say, i am going somewhere. i know that someone i have not seen for 5-10 years lives there, and i would like to check up with him to have a beer or with her to see if she's still hot and maybe we will finally be able to have sex (back then, i was too shy to approach). just kidding, i am happily married and do not cheat on my wife. cannot do that via google, but facebook is just fine. the question here is, however: "why should advertiser bring their money to this site, or rather how much should they bring to facebook relative to google?" not to mention that for most people who actually have jobs and money facebook is a huge productivity killer.

ok, facebook will say that i will see what my "friends" have been doing (what they read, what they bought, etc.) and this will drive my decisions. well, does not quite work for me. ok, i learn that a friend of mine has just been to ibiza and she's had a blast - will this affect my vacation plans? maybe, but if you are a travel agent selling tours to ibiza, would you rather pay for ads at a site to which people come specifically to begin planning their ibiza vacation (google), or to a site where you maybe able to get a click via this convoluted chain of events. fuck, if my friends' ibiza vacation made me want to go to ibiza, i will go to google and start searching there. ok, with modern technology if i search for ibiza vacation on google, i will get ads for this next time i go to facebook. BUT, if i searched on google, this means i have already made my plans via the links i found on google, thank you very much. i made a trip to amsterdam recently, and i still get those ads inviting me to buy a ticket to amsterdam. but i am back already, hello, i will not need this crap for another year or so. if you NOW want to advertise travel to me effectively, GUESS WHERE I WILL GO NEXT, BEFORE I MAKE MY PLANS VIA SOME ONLINE TRAVEL AGENT I FOUND ON GOOGLE. can facebook do that? maybe it can IF i change my status to "i really want to go to Siberia".

so, facebook model will not work in the long run (or at least there is NO way this company can be worth over 70 billion) IF most people going to facebook are people like me. i generally view facebook as something similar to a TV channel, BUT facebook cannot push its advertising as effectively as a TV channel can, and honestly the content on facebook becomes pretty boring after some time.

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