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Farage On Barroso: "He's A Deluded Communist Idiot"

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Commenting on the incredible circle-jerk that Europe (sovereign-to-banking-system) has become, the outspoken UKIP MEP Nigel Farage exclaimed to FOX Business in this best-ever-rant clip that "The whole thing is a giant Ponzi scheme, isn't it?" Goaded somewhat by the interviewer's questions citing Barroso's intimation that the US is to blame for Europe's problems, Farage opines that "Barroso is a deluded idiot" and a communist who supported Chairman Mao. The contagion effect from the US financial crisis did have impacts on Europe, there is no doubt, but as the frustrated Farage notes: the reason the Euro is in the state it is in is that they put together a completely artificial currency with countries that never fitted together on top of which was added a regulatory cost burden through excess regulation on the environment and employment legislation that is driving parts of Europe towards being a third world country; "America, you are not to blame". The clip goes on to discuss the circular bailout fantasy, the taxpayer burden leading to a democratic revolution, and at the end of the day "this whole thing is going bust" as the likable libertarian notes that European leaders believe that "well-educated bureaucrats know better than we the poor peasants how best our lives should be led" which is the same path that led to the economic and social crash-and-burn in the Soviet Union.

An Epic Rant...


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Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:22 | 2543520 bdc63
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LOL ... never one to mince words .... you gotta love the guy

Epic rant indeed.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:29 | 2543556 NotApplicable
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"Deluded Communist Idiot"

Deep down, aren't they all?


Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:40 | 2543615 MillionDollarBonus_
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More libertarian propaganda ... Don't you morons know ANYTHING about marxism!?? Just because it supposedly failed in the past (another libertarian lie), doesn't mean it can't work in the future. History and political science professors at top academic institutions across America have studied the mistakes made in China and Russia, and these will never be made again. This time, central economic planners know exactly how to allocate resources efficiently for maximum prosperity, liberty and freedom.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:43 | 2543628 jimijon
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<== Nominate Charles Ponzi for a Nobel in Economics.

<== Do not nominate Charles Ponzi.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:54 | 2543681 mcguire
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it is critical to see why having a communist as the EU president is not just a mistake or oversight... the UN, EU, and most globalist institutions are riddled with communists.  world government is what they want, and they will get it by driving the current system into the ground... global government will rise from the ashes of the coming chaos, and people will be so desperate for stability, they will be crying out for it as if it were their own idea...

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 12:00 | 2543709 economics9698
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MDB good one today.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 12:08 | 2543725 Pure Evil
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Communism = "maximum prosperity, liberty and freedom."

How do you keep coming up with these zingers. You should be writing comedy for David "I'm a leacherous dirty old geyzer" Letterman.


"top academic institutions across America have studied the mistakes made in China and Russia, and these will never be made again."

What, no more mass murders, a la Pol Pot, Mao, Stalin and Hitler.

The world just became dull.


Wed, 06/20/2012 - 12:09 | 2543737 CIABS
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Farage is a deluded City-of-London capitalist asshole.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 13:04 | 2544034 mkhs
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Delusion is epidemic.  What is your point?  Capitalism?  I think Churchill said it best that it is the worst system, except for all the others.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 14:55 | 2544585 AnAnonymous
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"Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time."



Wed, 06/20/2012 - 15:03 | 2544633 akak
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"All power flows from the barrel of a gun."


So ....

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 15:12 | 2544656 tocointhephrase
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Wed, 06/20/2012 - 15:28 | 2544728 TheFourthStooge-ing
TheFourthStooge-ing's picture roadside of Chinese citizenismland now ripe with New World Odor.

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 03:08 | 2546143 MeelionDollerBogus
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Except it's not. De-centralized socialism, of the people but NOT a government, is far better than capitalism in every way possible.

It is, however, an additional layer of activity. First personal rights & freedoms must be respected so that de-centralized socialism is optimal using a basis underlying of completely de-centralized capitalism.

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 06:37 | 2545032 Ghordius
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So, what did Farage say this time? Some notes on his words when he got asked "if the US caused the crisis":

- ....Barroso is an ex-communist/maoist and an idiot... (Well, ok).

- ...We all know that under Clinton & Greenspan mistakes were made ... that caused illnesses that spread to europe... (so yes, thanks, then it was the US's fault or not? "mistakes were made" is pretty damning in corporate/political speak, isn't it?)

- ...BUT...

- ...the EUR is a mistake because it's a completely artificial currency (go on, Nigel, request a return to gold? from the USofA? And how less "artificial" is your British Pound?)...

- ...with countries that never fitted together... (yes, in the dollarzone we find California, Texas, Idaho, the British Virgin Islands, Ecuador, El Salvador, Panama and of course Zimbabwe that is trying to crawl out of it - all fit together? Should the Germans roll back their pressure on wages - aka "lower labour unit costs"?)

- ... that have (the member countries) excessive regulation on environment and employment regulation... (ah, now we get some beef)

- ... that pushes part of europe toward being third world countries... (let me guess, we know they are there when the european countries have pollution and starvation wages?)

- ... (than a good) ...America! You are not to blame!...(hurray) ...and (bailout) money is going straight through the (spanish) state back to the (spanish) banks, you know, it's all a giant ponzi scheme (you should know, you are a banker's friend) is all going to bust... (all? Nigel, all what? is the square mile included or excluded? you are just advocating default by depreciation, aren't you?)

- (then some interesting stuff on the Party's creed, comparison between USSR and EU, central management and burocrats, etc. - note: the EU costs 1% of GDP)

And then, Nigel Farage says what he believes in: away with the EU Trade Zone, we have to globalize. Yup, you did read right: Nigel Farage is a globalist. A pure anti-EUR, anti-EU, screw-the-environment and screw-labour-regulation, when-talking-to-Americans-I'm-libertarian, friend-and-lobbyist of the Banking Cartel of the City of London. I'm not aware of what US Libertarian advocate in regard to tariffs, but his view is to give the MegaCorporation a free reign over every aspect of the economy of this globe.

Not enough? Please, here

And here

and here

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 03:05 | 2546142 MeelionDollerBogus
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Actually the USA aided Pol Pot in all his killing. Without the USA there'd be no Pol Pot.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 12:34 | 2543831 prains
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stoned on donuts since '89

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 13:21 | 2544150 JimBowie1958
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Dude, he is lampooning main stream media talking heads, not being serious at all.

Which shows how good he is at this game, and that makes him even more hilarious.

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 02:06 | 2546100 MeelionDollerBogus
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World government is World banking.

You already have a world government - Central Banks

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:55 | 2543685 Zaydac
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I voted green for 2 reasons:

1. Obama's peace prize; the guy needs some appropriate company on the list of winners

2. The fact that pretty much every government in the world has adopted ponzi financing shows what a brilliant theorist mr. Ponzi must have been. More influence on economics than Keynes!

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:55 | 2543686 economics9698
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Obama is a delusional communist idiot and look where we are.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 12:09 | 2543739 Pure Evil
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Yeah, but he's MDB's hero, so shush!

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 12:08 | 2543736 Liquid Courage
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Frontal Lobotomies and RFID implants for all! Who says you can't change Human Nature?

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 12:09 | 2543738 Lebensphilosoph
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"Political science" - there is and can be no such thing.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 13:16 | 2544105 John_Coltrane
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Yep, its like "nonviolent war"

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 15:05 | 2544632 falak pema
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it exists today : financial war is non violent when it begins...and its war, witness Athens. As a corporate admirer of oligarchy freedom, I'll let you sniff a whole nostril load; on the stench it has created...around the world amongst the innocent.

Still playing your "freedom" horn of ideology? One neurone away from apoplexy. 

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 12:09 | 2543740 Lebensphilosoph
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100 million murders later ...

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 12:10 | 2543744 MrNude
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''Just because it supposedly failed in the past (another libertarian lie), doesn't mean it can't work in the future''


People like you are truly, worse than the Nazis (who where also National Socialist,not far right like the left lie about), you really won't give up until everyone on Earth is dead from implementing your FAILED ideology.

Go live in North Korea or Cuba if you think it's so wonderful, Russia and China will be too capitalist for your taste, cause I don't want to see another generation of people having to suffer through bullshit like this:

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 12:30 | 2543814 Andy_Jackson_Jihad
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I can't tell if you're playing along with MDB's satire, don't get sarcasm, or have only just discovered the internet.  Please tell as my faith in humanity is at stake.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 12:18 | 2543768 shovelhead
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MDB, I agree wholeheartedly. We should all just step back and allow our best and brightest to lead us to a better future. Why would we invest in world -class ivy league schools to train an obviously talented cadre to hold the reins of power if we are going to continually carp about and nit-pick their infallible policies?

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 12:22 | 2543783 LynRobison
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MDB, someday you and I are going to have a serious disagreement.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 12:35 | 2543849 CPL
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I'll say it again. You have to start submitting stuff to the Onion.  


You could actually get paid for it instead of hanging around with us losers.  They take random submittals and actually read them.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 12:48 | 2543941 Jack Sheet
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Wed, 06/20/2012 - 13:10 | 2544063 Colombian Gringo
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MDB, now I get you. Thank you for mirroring the idiot bureaucrats that think they know better than us how to spend our money.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 13:44 | 2544247 kayl
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Yeah, right.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 13:51 | 2544282 old naughty
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but, but...I am confused with all these -ism's.

Didn't Karl Marx promote usury was not good for the proletariats?

And we have zero (or is it -ve) interest rate for a while now, and yet what a mess we are in.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 14:07 | 2544354 edotabin
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Yeah, they've decide to pay you to troll message boards in hope of recruiting a few idiots. Great plan!

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 15:45 | 2544821 Peterus
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I don't think they even advocate "maximum prosperity, liberty and freedom". It will be more like "social justice and equality"... Also when communist says freedom in fact he means material security. It is freedom from want, not freedom to act and make your own decisions.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 16:00 | 2544868 reTARD
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Why wasn't this a guest post on ZH?


None are more hopeless enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

Collectivism is the fiction that a "we" exists that has needs independent of, different from, and more important than the desires and needs of each individual who make up the collective.

Statism is but one form of collectivism, but it is the most pernicious form because individuals are assigned to a State collective at birth, indoctrinated into the belief that their collective is superior to all other collectives, and that the defense of their collective is a moral imperative.

Statism, in turn, is fascism, or at least transmogrifies into fascism, if only because the most powerful individuals within the State become the State. The two are one and their justification for power over individuals within the collective is based on a putative commonality that does not exist and has never existed.

Statism acts to control individuals and thereby eliminates individualism, making people slaves of the State to one degree or another, all under the auspices that the actions taken against individuals are not take by a third party government but by "we the people," a pseudo-voluntary association that is anything but voluntary, and itself a fiction.

The problem is that the "we the people" are not the State, yet are manipulated into believing we are, or that we at least control the State, as opposed to it controlling us. "We the people" is the result of pure evil genius, a fiction that is manufactured and perpetrated by those who understand their power is best served through manipulation rather than force, but who also know that the preservation of power requires the ability to cage and kill those who reject the imperatives of the collective.

In the perfect fascist State, maintaining complete control while giving individuals the perception of control is served by making speech appear free, but dramatically limiting its scope, content and form.

Today, we see this State goal manifested via three different dynamics:

1. Rename The Collective.

When one thinks of an individual, a "person," a human being comes to mind. But 300 million individuals would be difficult for any collective to control. Easier for the State is to empower sub-collectives, ostensibly private, easily identified and controlled, and re-characterize them as individuals, as persons. The business corporation is a good example. A corporation, in fact, is voluntary association of individuals who invest with the idea of (individually) enjoying a return on their investments.

While the individuals are real, the corporation is a fiction, manufactured by the State for ease of regulation and taxation. But there is more. By giving these collectives the status of persons, the real persons within the corporation are insulated in large part from responsibility for their own actions and their speech hidden behind the mask of the fictional entity sanctioned by the State, to include the right to make political contributions to the mother ship, effectively empowering the powerful to buy influence via a direct payment to candidates for public office. See Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission. Persons, real persons, have little chance to garner the largess of government or effectively limit those in control. Writing one's Congressman, after all, is no match for a large check from a business corporation or a labor union.

2. Eliminate Speech Harmful to the State.

A government in power that intends to stay in power ideally eliminates speech critical of itself and of those who control it. A good example is the "ag-gag" laws enforced in many States within the U.S. In short, these laws prohibit the press from reporting on the abuse of farm animals by corporate agriculture, a glaring and open violation of the First Amendment's guarantee of freedom of the press. To reveal the horrific conditions under which some of these animals live and die would be contrary to the interest of whom? Individuals who invest in corporate farms, of course. But rather than a debate between individuals, there is no debate at all because one of the "individuals" is a fiction, a collective with the power and money necessary to influence the State collective. And, thereby, real individuals, real people, are silenced, as is the press. Not surprisingly, most of the righteous indignation opposing these laws has been from the foreign press that has not yet been fully hobbled by the US government.

3. Monitor Speech Openly With A View Toward Preemption.

In the advanced fascist State, government does not wait for openly hostile action or speech. Rather, individuals (real individuals) are monitored to insure they are not threats to the collective. Those doing the monitoring are provided immunity for their actions, even if their actions are on behalf of the State and obviously unconstitutional, as is the the recently passed HR 6304 that gives telecoms immunity when they assist the U.S. government in spying on Americans` private communications. And, to insure their ability to act with total impunity, the fascist State contends it cannot be sued or held accountable even if its spying is admittedly illegal. Finally, when caught red-handed and slapped down, as Obama was recently by a federal court that found the NDAA unconstitutional, the highly effective fascist State simply and openly defies judicial orders.

Now, think about this and then mix it in a crucible with the Patriot Act, The National Defense Authorization Act of 2012 and the “Enemy Expatriation Act” (that will allow U.S. Government to take any American's citizenship without evidence or a conviction), and you get the point - their point: You, a real person, are to be frightened from wandering too far from the party line of the State collective, knowing you are being monitored and that the penalty for speaking, even whispering, the wrong words, may be years in a cage, or even death.

Indeed, as I write this from my home in Mexico, I wonder whether I would be comfortable writing these words if I had remained in the United States.

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 01:50 | 2546087 MeelionDollerBogus
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"Collectivism is the fiction that a "we" exists that has needs independent of, different from, and more important than the desires and needs of each individual who make up the collective."

I say: That's reality. Live with it.

All collective activities imbue a nature upon every species in every biome that is unlike individual activities or existence.

Even physics shows this - nanoscale to macroscale.

Your belief system is as flawed as the one proposed by MillionFuckheadBonus.

No group of people acts the same when communicating & investing together as the same people all apart. Ever. How do you think markets work, son?

Markets ARE collectivist.


Thu, 06/21/2012 - 01:47 | 2546086 MeelionDollerBogus
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Shouldn't you be loading up on Failbook shares?

2012 06 19 failbook will crash when DOW does due to oil price collapse - see

or you changing your name to MarxDollarBonus ?

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 04:06 | 2546170 Ar-Pharazôn
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hahahahahahahahah best ever joke on ZH


you dream of a world that will never be

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:46 | 2543644 greyghost
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i saw this yesterday...excellent. cracks me up that all we hear about are nazis this, nazis that, all the while the murderous communists are running how is their reign of thuggery working out? and whats up with murder rate in chicago? isn't the community organizer from chicago? does that mean he failed after years of organizing? what does marx say about gang warfare? the frankfurt school is alive and well in chicago.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 12:38 | 2543873 Lednbrass
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A fair part of the problem is that when it comes to nazis, the average American is a complete and utter idiot whose understanding of the subject comes from watching a never ending stream of movies and infotainers.

They dont know a damn thing about the subject and have no understanding of any actual differences along the left/right axis in terms of philosophy or how they are defined. To most here, a nazi is whatever the other guy they dont like is, and sadly thats about as deep as the understanding goes. They think Frankfurt school is where you learn to make hot dogs.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 13:11 | 2544072 riley martini
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 Other supporters of chairman Mao: Richard Nixon and Henery Kissinger . After Nixon made his deal with Mao to modernize China Mao to Nixon publicly from time to time I will have to denounce the USA in the harshest terms but privately we know we have a deal. Nancy Pelosy about G. Bush ;  George knows I have to say some harsh things abot him publicly  but privately we are best of friends.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:32 | 2543571 Silver Bug
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As always Farage is spot on. He is one of the true good politicians left and there arn't very many left.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:56 | 2543691 dolce vita
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the elite have/are sensing that libertarianism is the" natural selection" of human interaction with governments ...hence they[elites] have no place or power in it and are doing their inbred best to stop it. 

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 12:37 | 2543866 CPL
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They are attempting to "steer" a train with a known destination?

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 13:50 | 2544277 kayl
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Yes, just like RP. Controlled opposition is a beautiful thing!

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:36 | 2543589 Future Tense
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The best part about Farage is that he comes from a true financial background. His regular interviews on King World News are fantastic. While he has been cautious on gold the past 6 months in his last interview he gave the green light to begin accumulating again. Excellent charts in the following article that help put gold into perspective based on the total money supply:

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 15:06 | 2544643 tocointhephrase
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The sad part is that he gets no air time in the uk

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:39 | 2543602 tonyw
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The only problem is he thinks it is a communist plot whereas central control with large corporates benefitting the rich is fascism.

Both options drain the wealth of the productive middle classes.

The major parties in most countries all have very similar policies, they're just there to give more politicians a turn at the trough and distract the votes.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 12:32 | 2543822 lolmao500
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Communism and fascism is the same thing. Thugs stealing everything you've got while saying it's for the good of everybody.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 14:53 | 2544572 falak pema
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communism and fascism is not the same thing. Its like saying faith and religion are the same thing. They are not. The one is inner belief the other is a temporal network of methodology and dogma made out of thin air to exercise power. But having said that its a question of words and the world in built on deeds, whose genesis lies in words and ideas. So to understand one and the other we have to understand cause and effect. That is political or historical analysis. Not political science, analysis...nuance! 

Nuance is everything in words as in action, as its the dividing line between moderation and excess; and as the greek philosophers taught us, between moderation and hubris lies the Rubicon! (i'm jumping the gun but then greek man is immortal!).

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 13:22 | 2544153 John_Coltrane
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Potatoe, Potatoe, Tomatoe, Tomatoe. Get it?

Don't get caught up in semantics.  Both systems hate the individual and freedom and thus are anathema to liberty and liberatarians.  Read some Hayek such as "The road to serfdom" and then your comments will have more substance.


Wed, 06/20/2012 - 14:04 | 2544342 falak pema
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corporation corporation, land of liberty and individual freedom. If Hayek said it it must be true, he is such a practical person who practised what he preached in life! Right??

Play on John your tune is not Coltrane.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 13:27 | 2544175 JimBowie1958
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I agree in that the commies destroy corporations while fascists enslave them to the state power apparatus.

But I think Farage means that in the case of these men they were literally members of the communist parties of eastern Europe mostly prior to the collapse of the Soviet Union.

The EU wants to be inclusive and to do that with former government people from the former eastern commie block that means you are going to get a shit load full of commies in the mix.

Most of these commies if not all of them have disaovowed communism publically, though many still pursue it in practice.

Never attribute to conspiracy what can as easily be explained due to stupidity or greed.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 15:36 | 2544758 ConfederateH
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Fine, Brussels is laced with Communists.  What about Obama, Jarret and all czars?

Fri, 06/22/2012 - 12:32 | 2551488 JimBowie1958
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That we have the same disease does not make Europe any healthier.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:41 | 2543621 Jack oh Daniels
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Poor old Nigel has been a lone voice for a long time - if you listen to what he is saying he is absolutely correct - unfortunately he is now stereo typed - what we need is a new voice of reason to emerge - if possible from a person who until now has been a strong supporter of the European Union initiatives - this will be a key inflection point for the "same old rethoric" that currently drives in Eisteins waords "doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome". My fear is that given the economic decline in both Europe and the global economy no one wants to break from the cartel in fear of having to go it alone. These Bureacrats both in the US and European do not have the answers! Just watch a Congressional Hearing to see the inadaptitude and gross incompetence of both your Senators in the US and the "unelected" bumbling idiots sitting in Brussels to see the frightening reality - they would not be able to balance the books of a social club never mind effectively manage global financial markets.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:47 | 2543648 vmromk
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Hey Bernanke, are you the ASSHOLE choosing negative arrows for all these positive comments ?

If it is you, GO FUCK YOURSELF.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:22 | 2543521 Stackers
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Barroso as a young, passionate Maoist student leader in 1976

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:24 | 2543529 achmachat
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you think him and Obama were hanging out?

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:29 | 2543551 john39
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Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:32 | 2543563 bdc63
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I think they shared a fatty at Bill Ayers' house back in the day ...

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 13:57 | 2544313 krispkritter
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You mean Dorn? Could be...

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:32 | 2543567 kralizec
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Was there chiba?

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 12:45 | 2543925 John Doeman
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What is it about Barroso and Von Rumpoy that strikes me as so insidious? If ever there was a hidden plot, it is these two who are its henchmen. A socialist and a Catholic slowly fomenting revolution. Whoda thunk it. Toss in the big O and now we have Larry, Curly and Moe. It would be laughable if it weren't for the fact these men are so insidious: Enemies of Liberty.     

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:25 | 2543536 carbonmutant
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Nigel for the win...

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:25 | 2543538 Abner Doon
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Information recieved by US Congressman Brad Miller on George Hartzman's Wells Fargo Whistleblower case

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:34 | 2543579 disabledvet
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A more important concept has to do with risk vs the type of client being told to take that risk. I.e. "your 90 year Grandmother should not have been sold a bucket load of MBS in her investment account."

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:30 | 2543546 GeneMarchbanks
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Panic in the CoL?

The appearance on FOX cements it. Poor Yanks gobble this shit up with a spoon.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:28 | 2543547 eckart
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he's a populist wally...he's should focus his energy on the brewing crisis in his own backyard!

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:31 | 2543566 GeneMarchbanks
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Ever heard the expression: The best defense is a good offense?

Well, that's plan A. Plan B is have CoL collateralize more underpants then profit.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:40 | 2543617 JohnTheBaptist
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He addresses UK & European problems on a regular basis, if that is what you mean by 'his own backyard'.

He may have been on an American show, but he was discussing Europe,

Nigel presents plenty of solutions to problems we face, but like he says in the video - the communists don't want to listen to the people, they have their own plan.

It's hardly populist by the way, but what is wrong with being a 'populist' in a Democracy?

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:48 | 2543653 5880
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"populist wally"?

Yeah! Let the people eat cake! Until they chop your head off...

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:29 | 2543555 Squishi
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hey Mao only killed 80 million give a man a break.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:36 | 2543591 Turin Turambar
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It's not like Mao was Hitler or anything...

well, maybe Hitler x 10 or Stalin x 3

Besides, who's counting?  Certainly NOT the statists.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 13:28 | 2544182 John_Coltrane
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On a per capital slaughter basis no one can touch Pol Pot.  Man, that guy hated people who wore glasses!  NBA fashion plates would have a short shelf life in his regime.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:30 | 2543559 Spastica Rex
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Europe is a country.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:45 | 2543630 Treeplanter
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Obama said it after inhaling some good afghan hash.  He blames the hash.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 12:20 | 2543779 Spastica Rex
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Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:57 | 2543695 Zaydac
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The entrance to most EU offices has a sign "Europe - Your Country".

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 12:21 | 2543782 Spastica Rex
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Perhaps the source of Farage's Freudian slip?

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:32 | 2543570 Rip van Wrinkle
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I have seen more of Farage on clips from US TV in the past 3 months than I've seen of Farage on UK TV ever. In the UK he is dealt the hand of 'Little Englander', 'swivel-eyed right winger', 'lunatic' and is kept from our screens for fear of things changing from the status quo.


In fact any one who thinks outside that status quo (never ending bank bailouts, non stop mass immigration, non-stop social benefits), excpet the Maoists and communists that infest the union leadership in the UK, are kept off the airwaves. Period.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:39 | 2543610 Doug_Canada
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The big staus quo ending even has comeing from Communists, so beware of what you wish for. Now bow to your Chinese overlords.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:45 | 2543643 Dr. Engali
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That's the same way they treat Ron Paul over here. He gets an appearence every now and then ,but they cosider him more of an oddity.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:50 | 2543664 Treeplanter
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Y'all gotta bring back the land of hope and glory.  It ain't over yet.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:35 | 2543572 SeverinSlade
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Nigel Farage for President 2016.  Hey if we can have one illegal immigrant as TOTUS (although in Nigel's case he would be a legitimate POTUS) surely the masses would accept a British Libertarian.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:34 | 2543578 falak pema
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an epic rant, but off the mark, the US FED/banks are to blame for the Eurobanking crisis. No doubt there. He should eat humble pie and try and apprehend as public rep. the situation of City shenanigans by corporates who donate to his party bigtime. His denial of this banking crisis is a bad sign of his sincerity. He will have to back track bigtime when this crisis hits accross the channel when it does.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:37 | 2543592 bdc63
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alittle personal responsibility would go a LONG way, but I know that goes against DECADES of European socialist values ...

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 12:02 | 2543716 ThirdWorldDude
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...envisioned & financed by the 400 year financial world dominance by the CoL Corp.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:47 | 2543614 Turin Turambar
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Well, you are partly correct.  It's the Fed AND ECB and other central bankers.  The Fed is far more internationalist than most people know and historically even more pro-British than pro-American.  After all, we did go through the Great Depression as a result of Fed policies designed to bail out England. 

The International banking cartel, of which the Fed is a prominent member, is responsible for the problems world-wide, and more specifically fiat currency AND especially inherently fraudulent fractional reserve banking.

The solution is pretty simple.  There's a good part and a bad part.  The good part involves a swath of tall trees, lots of rope, and the central bankers.  The bad part involves lots of gold and silver for a necessary conversion to metal based money.  The short-term will be unpleasant at best, but we'll all emerge the better for it within a few short years imo. 

Ahh, it feels good to exercise some of the little bit of liberty that I still possess (in my mind) - fantasyland!  LOL

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 13:34 | 2544207 John_Coltrane
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Are you one neuron short of a synapse today?

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 13:39 | 2544230 falak pema
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you are short and pithy and honestly very shitty, cos' you bad mouth without presenting an argument. Are you God?

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:33 | 2543580 goforgin
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European leaders believe that "well-educated bureaucrats know better than we the poor peasants how best our lives should be led" which is the same path that led to the economic and social crash-and-burn in the Soviet Union.


.. and pseudo-Libertarians want to tell recipients of economic aid like Families with Dependent Children how they should spend their EBT cash withdrawals.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:56 | 2543690 GeneMarchbanks
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pseudo-Libertarians? Try corporatists and split the difference.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:34 | 2543582 Turin Turambar
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It's amazing how refreshing it is to hear the truth spoken out loud with competence.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:34 | 2543584 sangell
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I'd like to see WillamBanzai morph Barroso and Rompuy into Laurel and Hardy!

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:36 | 2543590 Seorse Gorog fr...
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Since Fox Propaganda are lovin' Farage here, are they gonna start lovin' Ron Paul??

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:39 | 2543598 bdc63
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Ahhhh .... in a word, NO.  That would hit too close to home.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:56 | 2543683 TWSceptic
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Fox (business) is sympathetic to libertarians, they have invited the guys from Reason too, but Fox is mostly neo conservative & anti progressive/liberal itself.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 12:47 | 2543937 Lednbrass
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Neo conservative and anti progressive is a philosophical oxymoron.

One of the central tenets of progressivism in the US is that it is the proper place and role of the Federal government to make life fair regardless of cost. Neo cons are Wilsonian progressives on steroids- they will happily bankrupt the country as long as they get to feel like the guy weraing a white hat in a John Wayne movie.

The main difference between prog donkeys and elephants is geography and where they want to spend what we dont have to project the power of the US government.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 14:44 | 2544542 Shitters_Full
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They only love the fact that he doesn't blame the US for the mess.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:37 | 2543594 Cthonic
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"He's A Deluded Communist Idiot"

Perhaps all these awards, having contributed to chronic elevated intracranial pressure (e.g. swollen brain), might have something to do with it:

  • Portugal's Gra-Cruz da Ordem Militar de Cristo in 1996;
  • Winner of the Casa da Imprensa prize in the area of politics in 1992
  • Named Global Leader for Tomorrow by the World Economic Forum in 1993
  • Chosen Personality of the Year in 1991 and 2004 by the Foreign Press Association in Portugal
  • Given “Medalla de la Universidad de Alcala de Henares” and “Medalla de Oro de la Ciudad de Zamora”, Spain, 2005
  • Golden Medal: The Bell Celebration – Message to the United Europe, from the Ferdinan Martinengo Company, Slovakia, 2006
  • EFR-Business Week Award from Erasmus University Rotterdam, 2006.
  • Honorary Citizen of Rio de Janeiro, June 2006.
  • "European of the Year" award by European Voice newspaper, November 2006.
  • Awarded Honorary HEC diploma, Paris, December 2006.
  • Special Prize, Business Centre Club, Poland, February 2007; Gold Medal of the city of Lamego, Portugal, April 2007;
  • Transatlantic Leadership Prize, European Institute, Washington DC, April 2007;
  • Grand Cross of the Order of Vytautas the Great (Lithuania, 06/2007)[22]
  • Honorary Citizen of Delphi and Golden Medal of the "Amfiktyons", Delphi, Greece, July 2007;
  • Academic Title EBAPE – FGV, for the relevant contribution and services towards the study and practice in Administration - Getulio Vargas Foundation, Rio de Janeiro, August 2007
  • Conde de Barcelona International Prize from the Conde de Barcelona Foundation, Barcelona, November 2007.
  • Honorary Medal and Honorary Diploma of the City of Nicosia, Nicosia, January 2008.
  • Honorary Member, Academia Portuguesa da História, Lisbon, March 2008.
  • State Medal "Stara Planina" I Degree, Bulgaria, March 2008.
  • "Prémio Rotary da Paz", Rotary International Distrito 1960 Portugal, Lisbon, April 2008; "Chave de Honra da Cidade de Lisboa", Lisbon, May 2008.
  • Confraria Queijo S. Jorge, Acores, May 2008.
  • Ciudadino Andino Honorifico, Lima, Peru, May 2008.
  • "Transatlantic Business Award", American Chamber of Commerce to the European Union, Brussels, May 2008.
  • Confraria vinho do Porto, Porto, June 2008.
  • Orden de la Cruz de Terra Mariana, Primera clase, Tallinn, February 2009.
  • Gold Medal of the Royal Institute of European Studies, Royal Institute of European Studies Madrid, March 2009.
  • Gold Medal of the Hellenic Parliament, Athens, April 2009.
  • Medal of Honour and Benefaction of the City of Athens, Athens, April 2009.
  • European Excellence Award, by the Government Council of the Community of Madrid, May 2009.
  • Prix European of the Year, The European Movement in Denmark, Copenhagen, May 2009.
  • Grand Cross of the Order of Vytautas the Great, Vilnius, June 2009.
  • Laureate of the Quadriga Prize 2009 - United for the Better, Berlin, October 2009
  • Collar of the Order "pro Merito Melitensi", the Order of Malta, Rome, May 2010.
  • Medal of Merit from the Federação das Associações Portuguesas e Luso-brasileiras, Brazil, July 2010.
  • "Man of the Year 2009 of Central and Eastern Europe", Krynica, September 2010.
  • Great Collar of the Order of Timor-Leste, Brussels, October 2010.
  • Golden Victoria "European of the Year 2010" award by the Union of German Magazine Publishers VDZ, Berlin, November 2010.
  • Collar of the European Merit Foundation, Luxembourg, November 2010.
  • the "Steiger" Award 2011, Bochum, Germany, March 2011.
  • Honorary Dipshit in the Nth Degree, ZeroHedge forums, 2012
  • Honorary Degree from Roger Williams University, Rhode Island, 2005
  • Honorary Degree in Humanities from Georgetown University, Washington, D.C.
  • Honorary Degree in Political Science from the University of Genoa, Italy, 2006
  • Honorary Degree in Law from Kobe University, Japan, April 2006.
  • Honorary Doctorate in Social and Human Sciences from Candido Mendes University, Rio de Janeiro, June 2006.
  • Honorary Degree of Doctor of Science, University of Edinburgh, November 2006.[23]
  • Honorary Degree from the Economics Faculty of the "La Sapienza" University of Rome, January 2007
  • Honorary doctorate at Warsaw School of Economics, Warsaw, November 2007.[24]
  • Doctor Honoris Causa degree at the Pontifical Catholic University of Sao Paulo, Brazil, March 2008.
  • Honorary degree of Doctor of Laws, University of Liverpool, July 2008; "Prémio Política e Responsabilidade Social", Fundação Luso-Brasileira, Lisbon, October 2008.
  • Honorary Degree of Doctor, Université Nice Sophia Antipolis, Nice, November 2008.
  • Doctor Honoris Causa, Tomas Bata University, Zlin, Czech Republic, April 2009.
  • Honorary doctorate of the Chemnitz University of Technology, Chemnitz, May 2009.[25]
  • Honorary doctorate of Public and International Affairs, University of Pittsburgh, USA, September 2009.
  • Doctor Honoris Causa, University Estácio de Sá, Rio de Janeiro, July 2010.
  • Doctorate Honoris Causa, ?ód? University, Poland, October 2010.
  • Doctorate Honoris Causa, University of Geneva, October 2010.
  • Doctorate Honoris Causa, University of Bucharest, November 2010.
  • Honorary Doctorate, Baku State University, Azerbaijan, January 2011.
  • Honorary Doctorate, Luiss Guido Carli University, Rome, March 2011.
  • Honorary Doctorate, Ghent University, March 2011.
Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:57 | 2543646 falak pema
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Anybody with such an official academic phony crony political boner leg up to uber-alles Oligarch crown jewel owner status, ensures you respectability whatever your stance as student activist. Anybody who was with GWB at Madera as supporter of pre-Irak caper shot down in UN has to be in the pockets of the Oligarchy right to his short hairs. They own him. But in these troubled times the Oligarchy is split down the middle in the race to bottom launched by US banksta cabal against eurocracy support of Merkel partial fire wall and peripheral victims whose RE assets are on German banksta books. UK/USA alignment is a given. Euro battle is not a given as the Oligarchy loses ALL if this gets out of hand. And it could. Farage is hoping the shell shocking will not destroy Anglo financial supremacy but will disintegrate Euro cohesion. 

We are in financial terms in pre Waterloo battle times, in the Cameron/Merkel divide. Awesome if you like history to see how this will pan out! Hollande has some leg room but does he have his head screwed on?

Merkel is now looking more and more as the new teutonic Napoleon, against the Anglo Iron duke and City mob. Is it a posture she can hold upto the hilt when push comes to shove? Lets find out! 

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 12:20 | 2543761 GeneMarchbanks
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She cannot because that ENA prankster and his 'nation' go through an existential crisis every time some actual decisions must be made.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 12:20 | 2543775 Bonesetter Brown
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Spot on.  Love the Waterloo/Napoleon comparison.

I won't be the least surprised if we see Germany with the new DM, and the devalued Euro pegged to the USD a la the RMB peg.

And of course, Bernanke expands the Fed balance sheet to save the world and on-board all these Southern European nations.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 12:25 | 2543795 ThirdWorldDude
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Interesting times indeed!

I chuckled during Nigel's interview, him sitting in front of a panorama of Westminster, Big Ben and The City (always in the background). Expect to see more of him in the following weeks, as he is in a very uncomforable position - agitating for the collapse of the euro, but trying to prevent "contagion" further west that would prematurely crumble Pax Americana.

I am dubious on Merkel, knowing she belongs to the Swiss lair of CoL landlords, but if there still is a healthy power in Germany, if/when they decide to part from the rest of Europe they'll fare pretty well. The grounds have been laid for a future Prussia-Moscowy alliance where both parts will profit in the long run.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:50 | 2543665 Seize Mars
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"Honorary Dipshit in the Nth Degree, ZeroHedge forums, 2012"


Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:51 | 2543672 nonclaim
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Grand Poobah is implied, I think.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:55 | 2543687 TJ00
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Wow, talk about groupthink! I just realised we are in far more trouble than I could have imagined, it reminds me of another list of awards-

Order of the Red Banner (S/N 3), awarded 27 November 1919
Order of the Red Banner # 2 (S/N 19), awarded 13 February 1930
Hero of Soviet Labor (S/N 1), awarded 20 December 1939
Order of Lenin (S/N 6235), awarded 20 December 1939
Order of Suvorov 1st Class (S/N 112), awarded 6 November 1943
Czechoslovak War Cross 1939, awarded somewhere in 1943
Medal for Defense of Moscow, awarded 20 June 1944
Order of Victory, awarded 29 Juli 1944
Order of the Red Banner # 3 (S/N 1361), awarded 4 June 1944
Order of Victory, awarded 26 juni 1945
Hero of the Soviet Union (S/N 7931), awarded 26 June 1945
Order of Lenin (S/N 117859), awarded 26 June 1945
Medal for Victory over Germany
Medal for Victory over Japan
Order of Sukhbaatar (S/N 1) (Mongolia), awarded somewhere in 1945
We Won Medal (Mongolia), awarded somewhere in 1945
Order of Jan Zizka of Trocnov Golden Star (Czechoslovakia), awarded somewhere in 1945
Czechoslovak Order of the White Lion, 1st Class, awarded somewhere in 1945
Czechoslovak War Cross 1939, awarded somewhere in 1945
Order of Lenin (S/N 117864), awarded 20 December 1949Title Hero of Mongolia - 17 dec. 1949
Order of Sukhbaatar - 1945
Order of Sukhbaatar - 1949
Medal for Victory against Japan - 1945
Medal 25 Years of the MPR - 1946

Order of the Star of Bukhara 1st Class - 17 Aug. 1922
Order of TAR Republic (Tuva Autonomous Republic) - 1943
Medal 20 Years of Red Army
Medal 850 Years of Moscow

of one Joseph Stalin.


Wed, 06/20/2012 - 12:01 | 2543710 Bam_Man
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Man, that is one heckuva boatload of bullshit.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 12:13 | 2543751 LawsofPhysics
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Everything concentrates at the top of any ponzi.  FYI- "Honorary" means that you did not do any of the actual work normally required by anyone else receiving the same degree/award.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 12:34 | 2543832 shovelhead
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No honorary license from New England School of Truckdriving?

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:37 | 2543595 Abraxas
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Labels like communist, socialist, imperialist etc. mean nothing any longer (I’m not sure if they ever did). Label is like a piece of clothing that serves its purpose for awhile and can be discarded at will. It also hides their nakedness, which is probably the most important feature. There’s just us and them and that’s it.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 12:58 | 2543990 John Doeman
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Abraxas. Your name says it all. Takes your charms elsewhere. You are completely full of shit and at best a charlatan. 

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 13:10 | 2544015 Abraxas
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Where is the hostility coming from? Deep inside?

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:38 | 2543600 Nonexistent Uni...
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As much as I enjoy Farage's refreshingly not taking-it-up-the-ass-from-banksters stance, I feel you really hit a point of diminishing returns when it comes to things like this. One can only go on calling people communists and yelling Ponzi scheme without coming off as a homeless man waving a E?D iS NIghT sign. The SAD thing is that's how it looks despite the fact that what he's saying is acurate. 

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:39 | 2543608 justsayin2u
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i think ill name my next kid nigel - boy or girl

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 12:05 | 2543627 Dr. Engali
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The talking head said we had a "seachange" in our elections in 2010 trying to pretend like a big libertarian political change happened here. Who is he kidding? Besides Ron Paul the new batch  is the same as the old.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:44 | 2543629 Catequil
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lol, wow... that was one populist attempt to ride the wave of social discontent in EU.

I admit that centralization is a long-term problem for EU.

But the real problem is the banking cartel. Crack on the banking cartel (just let the banks/governments implode) and here you go - common EU currency is fixed.

Just for a reference, there are poorer and richer states within the USA too, but that has never questioned the existance of USD....

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 12:22 | 2543678 Dr. Engali
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There is a big difference between merging different states and different countries. The United states didn't have a couple thousand years of wars and national identity to over come. Not to mention the Euro system is broke. They are borrowing money to pay back money they borrowed. Which sounds familiar. I wonder what other elephant in the room is doing that.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 12:25 | 2543797 Catequil
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USA had a Civil war to merge the North with the South and yet we still have USA and USD. Apart from that, EURO system is as broke as FED/Wall Str. system :) with the main difference of USD still having its global reserve currency status, in my humble opinion.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 12:55 | 2543979 Lednbrass
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The Civil War crushed the economic and political base of the South and impoverished the population but it didnt change much of anything.

They are still entirely separate regions tied together by nothing but force and phony money, the cultures are as different as anything in Europe. Let the South actually exercise voting rights on the issue and I doubt the US would be constituted as it is. When things get bad here I really dont see the makeup of the US remaining as is.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 12:32 | 2543827 AnAnonymous
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The United states didn't have a couple thousand years of wars and national identity to over come.


Hoh, hoh, how is that? The founding fathers had a different opinion on that, probably based on their daily experience.

Not only they reported about their different opinion, but offered the US citizen social engineering plan to overcome the loyalty to their countries the migrants exhibited.

But hey, US citizenism is as US citizen does. So yep, more fabled past from US citizens who need to paint their country's past in different colours to give ground to their baseless claims.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 12:56 | 2543980 TheFourthStooge-ing
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AnAnonymous said:

But hey, US citizenism is as US citizen does. So yep, more fabled past from US citizens who need to paint their country's past in different colours to give ground to their baseless claims.

You critical of baseless claims? Made me laugh.

Another instance of the wok calling the cooking marmit black.

AnAnonymousitizenism at work.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 14:50 | 2544460 akak
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Did you realize that AnAnonymousitizenism also entails the monolizing of speeching means? (

All hail the latest revelation from the Great Prophet of Chinese Citizenism himself!

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:45 | 2543640 N. B. Forrest
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Farage for PM


Wed, 06/20/2012 - 12:05 | 2543642 pagan
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Unfortunately, he is spot on and has been for a long time. Because of the EURO disaster.

But, I still hate him. He is a true Brit, this means that he is half Yank.

I'm a true European and even if the Euro is a failiure. I'm still a true European.

Can a Brit be a true European? Nope, so why not transport that puny little island across the atlantic and park it beside Long Island and make it the 51:th US state?


PS: We keep Scotland, Wales and N. Ireland

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 12:22 | 2543786 WTFx10
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Israel is our 51st state and our sattalite capitol. Ask the israelis if they would like to colonize England then. Oh wait they already own it.

"I care not what puppet is placed on
the throne of England to rule the Empire, ...
The man that controls Britain's money
supply controls the British Empire.
And I control the money supply." by: Baron Nathan Mayer Rothschild
(1777-1836) London financier, one of the founders of the international Rothschild banking dynasty
Never MIND
Wed, 06/20/2012 - 12:54 | 2543974 pagan
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So Israel is your 51:th state?

I disagree. It is your first state. Ask any US evangelical (are they 50% of the population) if any doubts. 

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 13:03 | 2544022 Lednbrass
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No, evangelicals are about a quarter or so.  Even so, they are not uniform in their opinions on the subject. I live where there is a Baptist church every other block and while some are as you some are not.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 13:19 | 2544131 WTFx10
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All i know is it controls the country formally known as the United States of America through proxy and the Rothschild's ownership of the federal reserve.

Anything else the organized criminal syndicate tries to make u believe is just that make-believe.

   “Truth hurts. Maybe not as much as jumping on a bicycle with a seat missing, but it hurts.”

                                      -Naked Gun


Wed, 06/20/2012 - 14:38 | 2544422 pagan
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Yep, that's true. But this is obvious for any intelligent person.

So how is this BS possible?

Deep politics or rather religion. The Yanks are the most religious people on this planet. Yaheeesuz (the south), Yeshua (da Jooz). 


Get da picture DUMBASSES?


Wed, 06/20/2012 - 12:31 | 2543821 Lebensphilosoph
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This puny little island of common riffraff and toff-nosed snobs trounced the Spanish Catholics, French Bonapartists, German Brownshirts and all other continental fools who were ever stupid enough to get into a brawl with her, whilst carving out by sheer brass balls and tenacious wit the single largest and most prosperous empire that the world has ever seen. Your 'Europe', on the other hand, is nothing more than a geographical construct and your 'Europeanness' a delusion of the mind. Why would any 'Brit' want to be a 'European' for God's sake?

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 12:45 | 2543923 falak pema
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then get out of europe and lets clarify things; nothing wrong with being a jingoist john bull, who stands on his own feet. But if the UK people are on that page why this hypocrisy of one foot out, one foot in. And why this avid desire since ten years to be US hegemony's water carrier in Irak and Afghanistan, Quisling type shills, à la Tony Blair? The US kicked out the UK from ME in 1956 over Suez. Remember! They took over the Oil Patch.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 14:26 | 2544479 QuietCorday
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A large percentage of British voters do not want to be in the EU, which is why Farage's party are the second largest party block amongst British MEPs. The problem is the British do not seem to be able to get out of the EU. They also couldn't manage to stop Britain going into Afghanistan or Iraq, despite enormous protests in London and a huge political scandal over "sexed up" documents.

The British political elite -- the Labour, Conservative and LibDem elite -- simply refuse to listen to the people. After all, what exactly can the average voter *do* without being arrested?

The problem is the British don't have anyone else apart from UKIP, who haven't managed to return an MP. The day they do, things could change rather quickly.

The issue with Britain and the EU is not that they don't like Europeans, but that they have an "island mentality" towards the nearest continent or mainland, somewhat like Corsica to France, or, yes, Ireland to Britain itself where the people of such islands have a distinct culture of their own. The thing to remember is there is an enormous difference between the ordinary Englishman/Scotsman/Welshman and the British *elite* overlords that rule them.

We are, in a sense, ruled by imperial overlords. We are a subjected peoples ruled by a foreign power. At least, that is how it feels these days.  

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 16:12 | 2544904 Mitzibitzi
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Yes, that's precisely how it feels!

Thu, 06/21/2012 - 05:08 | 2546200 Lebensphilosoph
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Don't mistake me for a populist and a democrat.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:47 | 2543649 Doug_Canada
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Europe is just living the American dream. Look at all the US states that will never prosper economically because they are stuck with a dollar that will never let them be competitive. Difference is the working poor in Europe have some wage guarantees that don't exist in the US. 

Europe should have two currencies. One for the rich nations and one for the others: the Euro and the Pean. Greece, Spain, Italy and Ireland can issue the Pean.

Next the Blue states can move to the Canadian dollar and leave the red states with the US Dollar. I’m joking but then again I’m not.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 12:53 | 2543966 shovelhead
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This is what playing hockey without a helmet sounds like.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 12:59 | 2543996 Creepy Lurker
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I wouldn't saddle the Canadians with the blue states, damn, they haven't done anything that bad.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 13:08 | 2544057 Lednbrass
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It would be better for the US states to not just utilize separate currencies but go their own way entirely. We could make 3 or 4 viable nations with what we have, under the current system it is like 4 people trying to swim through heavy surf while each has a hand locked on another persons neck.

As far as wage guarantees, Germany somehow manages to get by without a minimum wage and have the most competitive economy of the lot.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 14:06 | 2544346 Doug_Canada
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Germany, France, UK and many others have mature modern economies that can pay great wages. Spain and Italy just don’t have that G8 economic fire power. Someday but not today. Mississippi is no New York.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:48 | 2543657 elwu
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Didn't know Farage so far, but about Barroso he is perfectly right.

The man is a communist idiot.

He not only managed as MP to kill Portugal's economy, he is trying his very best (or worst) to achieve the same with Europe.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 11:53 | 2543677 canardo
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"Watch those Dutch elections in September"
Indeed, those elections are going to be very interesting. For the first time the Dutch Socialist Party SP is leading in some polls. These are the real socialsts, not the so-called "social-democrats". The Freedom Party PVV is expected to come out very strong, this is the party that wants to leave the EU, although nobody will want to sit in a coalition governement with them because they are being blamed for the collapse of the present, now defunct, governement. Also, remember that these are the 6th elections in 10 years time, every government for the last 10 years has collapsed, the political landscape is so fragmented that forming a coalition is more like black magic and chances are very high that the new government will collapse as well eventually. This all means that Dutch politics are more and more unstable, and policies are flip-flopping all over the place, all of this is eating away confidence and continuity. It's a potent mix. There is also a party called the "Democrats66" which is openly calling for a federal europe and transfer of sovereignty to the EU. So the debate is getting very polarized and ... interesting.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 12:00 | 2543706 Dick Darlington
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Taking abt hardline communists, take a look at FrAAnce! Oh dear! Now the "BIG government" commies have taken over the country which already is in trouble and will make things worse there. FrAAnce will be the next one blowing up now that Spitaly bluff has been called.

As a teaser, take a look at the new finance minister of Communist FrAAnce:

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 12:43 | 2543912 Lebensphilosoph
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Spain may not be Uganda, but France is Nigeria.

Wed, 06/20/2012 - 12:00 | 2543711 azzhatter
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The real appeal of Farage is that he doesn't talk like a pol. He just lays it out. Compare to the limp wrists in congress.

Imagine Issa standing up and telling Holder he's gonna buttfuck him. The theatrics alone make the game worth following. Our pols all try to project this image of civility while assraping. Nigel just lays it out for them. Our pols won't even use the term liar. They say "misrepresenting the facts" or some shit like that. Farage is great to watch but the assraping continues. A violent revolution is the only chance the citizenry has left.

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