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Farage: "The Euro Titanic Has Now Hit The Iceberg"
In an epic rant, trumping Biderman, UKIP's Nigel Farage appears to have reached the limit of his frustration with his 'peers' in the European Parliament after the Spanish bailout. Rajoy's proclamation that this bailout shows what a success the euro-zone has been, sends Farage over the edge as he sees the Spaniard as just about the most incompetent leader in the whole of Europe (up there with favorites like Van Rompuy and Barroso). The erudite Englishman notes that by any objective criteria "The Euro Has Failed" expanding on the insane farce of Italy funding Spain's banking bailout at a loss (borrowing at 6% to fund a loan at 3% as we discussed here). "This 'genius' deal makes things worse not better" as it merely drives other nations towards needing bailouts themselves and while his socialist colleagues in the room are mumbling and checking their blackberries, he reminds them that Spanish national debt will surge and that 100 billion does not solve the problem, and that if Greece leaves, the ECB is failed, is gone, and to rectify this there will be a cash call from the very same PIIS (Ex-G) that are tumbling towards the abyss. Blood pressure surges as he screams "you couldn't make this up" concluding that "the Euro Titanic has now hit the Iceberg and sadly there simply aren't enough lifeboats."
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The EU commission should ban arbitrage, like short selling!
The EU commission should ban(ish) itself!
He keeps looking up at the camera or something, like always.
With that group of turkeys you need to check periodically to make sure that they haven't turned the camera off if you are speaking harsh truths. I'm surprised they let him have any camera time at all.
That's where he can see the recitation HSBC wrote for him in case he gets lost.
He's looking at how much of his speaking time remains.
I suspect he is actually looking at a clock, which has been positioned near the camera. Each speaker has a very strict and limited time, so they carefully script their speeches to fit the time and then ensure they are keeping to time in the delivery. You will notice each time he looks up it is a very quick glimpse, all that is needed to check whether he is on track. If he was mugging for the camera, he would look at it for a longer period.
They get 2 mins 30 seconds. Sometimes you can hear them remind the speakers.
The time limit for speakers has been the making of Nigel. Like Winston Churhill in a way, who would only contemplate 1 side of 1 sheet of paper of speechifying - brevity is best.
I often think of NF as the Alexandrian solution to the Gordian Knot of EU unfathomability - he strikes through with verbal swordstrokes & takes his 2m 30s to decapitate the Beast.
Not very smart are you? He's checking the clock so he can deliver the speech in time, it's called respecting the rules. Unfortunately not everyone in the EU parlement does that.
How long would it take him to say "Here we are ... You're all fucking cunts and you are fucking people of EU over" ?
About 2 minutes & 50 seconds, or did you not watch the clip ...
All wrong. He was a trader, obsessively preoccupied with following his unhedged positions. Now all that is left from this phase of his life as servant of the queen is a mental disorder.
I'm imagining Al Pacino as Farage (from one of the greatest scenes ever)...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3tKLD615DQ&feature=related
My all time favorite movie scene and completely relevant to today's world
Bailiff, I need a drink.
And it all falls on deaf ears. Just look at the reactions around the room... Bunch of smug fuckin' cunts.
And it all falls on deaf ears. Just look at the reactions around the room... Bunch of smug fuckin' cunts.
Its because they know where hes coming from and how to handle him ;-)
The Bank of England?
No, it's because they're arrogant douchebags who only care about people who agree with their ideas.
Yep, the look of contempt on the audience faces is just unbelievable. they simply can't believe that someone has pulled his head out of the sand and looked around and said "holy shi_, we are well and truly screwed". My 6 UK employees are all inquiring about moving their work to the US as they believe we are at least 2-3 years from the same train wreck.
Eeesh! Out of the frying pan and into the fire with that move. Still, I wish them luck... Were all going to need it.
as they believe we are at least 2-3 years from the same train wreck.
Months you mean?
I don't think you have 2 or 3 years...and I don't think we have that long either
None so blind as those that choose not to see...
"For those the blind who once could see, the bell tolls for thee"
Yep. It's like they think they are doing a good job, and wondering what this oddball is going on about.
Someone as brilliant, insightful, and erudite as Farage is should suggest some solutions too, rather than just ranting on and on pointing fingers here and there. It's easy to understand why the others would discount his testimony, since he's representing the UK, which has rejected the Euro. They would logically see him as an outsider and consider it not to be his problem, and hence, what he has to say matters less to them than Euro country members.
But he speaks the truth effectively and courageously, and they are doing their countries a grave disservice by ignoring him. Too bad his message doesn't seem to be penetrating their empty power-hungry pinheads.
Someone as brilliant, insightful, and erudite as Farage is should suggest some solutions too, rather than just ranting on and on pointing fingers here and there.
+1000
Haha... Now THAT would be telling!
And he doesnt do that on purpose!
Actually he has given his solutions on many occassions, do you think they ever listened? As I said, these sociopaths only care about their own crazy ideas.
Maybe he should try to make them work in the City and BoE?
He has repeated his solution on almost every occasion I have heard him speak - break up the euro, yield back economic sovereignty and abide by the democratic process.
The only part where I dont agree with him is the democratic part - but democracy is a hell of a lot better than having bureaucrats and bankers running peoples lives.
Actually, we're 25min past the collision with the iceberg:
The bold part is where we are now, the lifeboats are being uncovered and people are getting ready to board. It will be 45min in when it's really going to hit the fan.
Besides that, the weather is beginning to get stormy and there ain't no Carpathia.
Somebody wrote "It is like after they hit the iceberg then backed the Titanic up and ran the other side of the ship down the iceberg."
It's like listening to Cicero before the fall for the Triumvirate, and Rome.
"You shall now see that I watch far more actively for the safety of the Republic than you do for its destruction. " - 1st Catilinarian
I would say that Europe is having a soft landing like the Hindenburg, but Titanic works.
Yeah, a soft landing just like Humpty Dumpty had.
I said it before...
Farage is a fragrant air freshener...however, it's in the biggest stinking pile of shit on earth .
Media bubble
You got to love Farage. At least someone is calling Europe on its insanity.
What a clown.
When I was young, I liked some politicians. As I matured, I grew to tolerate some and dislike the others. Now that I'm old, I hate them all. Fuck Farage - he can go fuck himself.
ummmm so who do you want to represent you in the halls of "power"? Farage is pretty good, and he can speak for me.....You can have Pelosi or McCain...
Like I said to someone when they looked incredulous at me for not voting in the recent WI Gov recall pony show - I feel no need for an overlord. Why should I vote for one?
ECB Fearindicator again at recordlevel:
799B
http://www.cds-info.com/
We need this guy Farage to move to America, he is brilliant.
Can this guy make a guest appearance at the US Congress and illustrate what a great success TBTF banking has been?
They take him as seriously as Ron Paul.
Why can't we have a Farage in this country. Why?
We must beg him to do a speaking tour.
Problem is its not good to give people hope or raise thier expectations.
I wonder how he might be reached to campaign for a tour?
Why?? Greed. Sloth. TV. We're all asleep or afraid of the PTB's bullet.
or maybe it just hasn't gotten bad enough?
probably something stupid as people would rather die than deliver a public speech.
This guy walked away from a plane crash. He was put on this earth for a reason.
Now PIGS
Soon to be PIIS (pronounced piss?)
From pigs to piss? Shit!
"Italy even in the future will not need aid from the European Financial Stability Fund," Monti told Public Radio ARD according to Italian media reports.
So we all know this means Italy will need a bailout in 3...2...1
look at those fuckers sitting around laughing!
The Euro is not comprised of a basket of currencies; it is a basket CASE.
Gotta love the grandstanding. He is still a politician taking advantage of a crisis. He is spot on though. Whats sad is the other ministers sitting there getting a good laugh at the expense of the European people they are suppose to be looking out for. I just wanted to reach through the screen and bitch slap some of them. This is not funny, they are screwing everyone, we might as well bend over when the Fed starts bailing out Europe to make this administration look good.
They believe themselves to be the modern nobility, and Nigel as a mere court jester allowed to dance for their enjoyment. Who cares what the minor country nobility, the shopkeepers and the field serfs think?
he's right. 100 billion isn't enough for spain. better make it a couple trillion.
"Too much sanity may be madness. And maddest of all, to see life as it is and not as it should be."
They are striving to make the US look good - the least rotted zombie nation. So this means we can put off worry about our speng/debt issues a bit longer. I imagine that Ben planned it to work this way. He seems very smart - went to Princeton so we have no worries.
Farage didnt go to Printerton - that's his problem.
Close, but no cigar.
i trust no one. not even FARAGE. he's a plant. no one is to be trusted. get a gun & a bible. the only people to survive what's coming are those sitting on a big stack of metal & that includes the guns & bullets. GET RID OF THESE PEOPLE ! WE DON'T NEED NO STINKING BANKS.
Not enough lifeboats?
Germany gets lifeboat No. 1
France gets lifeboat No. 2
Everyone else learns to swim - don't see what the problem is.
(Signed Angie M)
As long as lifeboat no. 1 includes Alsace-Lorraine, as payment for the French bailout/keys to lifeboat no. 2.
They could begin building their own lifeboats and saving themselves by simply removing the ability of the banks to create and issue debt (some call it money instead of debt, but it is really only debt that they dole out).
There aren't any lifeboats. There is literally no where on the planet anyone can hide from this.
Massive deflation that oblierates anyone with a debt.
Massive inflation that oblierates anyone with any type of savings, then wheels around and kills anyone with debt because the interest rates can't stay there forever...lol...just kidding, of course they will keep interest rates on the level at under 0%.
In New Soviet Europe, icebergs hit you; they are shoved at you by stinking bureaucrats and central wankers.
Nice one.
How this for a tag team? Farage and Dylan Ratigan. Their manager? Art Cashin.
"The great object is that every man be armed."
-- Patrick Henry
I'll come with a stout rope.
"The great object is that every man be armed."
-- Patrick Henry
I love how, as soon as he starts talking, the guy behind him takes his headset off. Classic!
Remember there are 23 languages spoken there so in theory they need 23^2 interpreters to cover every language combination. Most MEP's speak/understand English so don't need the interpretation over the headset.
Is he married? I'd love to listen to him put me on blast for too much summer shopping :-)
I love this man!
What ever happened to that guy Daniel Hannan?
I thought he was our hero in the UK?
In the UK yes, this is the European Parliment. A powerless cash guzzling enterprize that creates hot air yet refuses to do anything constructive with it like sail away...
Hannan is a Conservative MEP, not an MP in London.
Look out for Duncan Carswell who is a Tory MP - worth reading his blog
http://www.talkcarswell.com
Nice writing, clear and nothing wrong with his sense of humour. Thank you very much.
MEP Daniel Hannan: "The Euro Is The Problem, Not The Solution"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/hannan-euro-problem-not-solution
Bailout in Spain Leaves Taxpayers Liable for the Cost
http://www.cnbc.com/id/47792656
Ahh the smell of Fascim is like none other
And, as always, it's the chronic europhile Belgian bastard Guy Verhofstadt who can't bring it up to let the man finish and starts shouting stuff around the room.
I actually seriously hate that man...
Yeah he was a SOB in Belgium and now he is one in the EU. A real sociopath too.
Nigel Farage is yet another "Scroom Screecher" who will be proven wrong, like all the rest of the "experts" here predicting the end of the world:
http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/King_World_News.html
"World Chaos!!
"Global Financial Crisis Imminent!"
"Institutions to Collapse!!"
Heh, gotta love these guys, constant fear-mongering.
Meanwhile, retail stocks like Under Armor and Ross Stores continue to grind up to new highs.
"Meanwhile, retail stocks like Under Armor and Ross Stores continue to grind up to new highs." - amazing how they do that on zero volume.
Hey Robo, some days you make a little sense, this is NOT one of those days, shut up..
Robo thinks borrowing at 7% and lending at 3% is a winning arb.
There will be a winner: Italy has alot of gold -- they'll need to post it as collateral after this bit of genius accelerates their run off the cliff.
"Nigel Farage is yet another "Scroom Screecher,Who will be proven wrong."
Thank fuck you're here RT. Without you I would never have had the resolve to carry on.
Man, all that you are is another speculator who offers nothing to the recovery; only more of the same. You contribute nothing to the economy and actually are one of the soldiers of the system who rejoice in the fact that you have a system that skims profits from the savings of your fellow countrymen. You pal, are a carpet-bagger and a real work of art.
Meanwhile, retail stocks like Under Armor and Ross Stores continue to grind up to new highs.
RobotTrader, principal of the Rear-View Mirror School of investment advice.
What chart are you looking at?
Retail is in the tank after this mornings report.
http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=XRT+Interactive#symbol=xrt;range=1d;c...
Mr NFLX and FSLR is still at it. Unf---ing believable! How can he have any nickels left?
The US is also arranging the deck furniture on our titanic? We are still steaming towards the Iceberg ourselves and the debt ceiling issue at year end could run us right into it. Someone please figure out a way to create meaningful sustainable employment without borrowing us into non existence.
The SS US and SS Euro will collide in mid-ocean. All useless eaters will be thrown overboard so as to be enough room in the single lifeboat for TPTB.
Some think Europe will improve when Greece leaves the union. On the contrary, the EU will transform from being the socialist funny farm into the world's urinal:
PIIGS - Greece = PIIS
Giant flushing sound to follow
And Nigel's Irish buddy:
http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/scarce/irish-wanking-bankers
Nigel Farage is a joke.
I didn't see him return those fat checks he receives every month from the very same "fascist and corrupt" EU that he is so willing to critize and attack.
How surprising.
Just another politician-scumbag making a name for himself by taking cheap shots at EU, biting the hand that feeds him
Do you work for free? Don't be stupid.
Do you work for free? You have more of a voice on the inside than on the out....
Seriously, you'd want him to quit and stand on a soapbox in Hyde Park to prove he's honest??????....Bovine excrement
Monedas and Nigel Farage have discovered the gold mine of humor that is Socialism....except he gets paid for it ! When do we get a Socialist Farce Based Sitcom ? Monedas 1929 Comedy Jihad You Can't Make This Shit Up
the "insiders" are obviously breaking the Spanish banking system, using Italy as feed for the wood chipper.
the people in the streets know this....why the written hystrionics ? it's a done deal, just waiting for the splat when the
garbage hits the granite.....
but maybe it's a good thing. if the banking system goes, the govt's also go.....thus ending what would have been
a rather cruel, stalinesque monster. so why complain, just enjoy the show.
but watch out for the guy who jumps up and says "i'm in charge" after the dust starts to settle.....
does anyone remember Lenin ?
Did the rest of them even manage to stir enough to take another sip of tea and take a bite of cookie? How can they just sit there??!
What else can they do? Agree? In public? That makes them the new sacrifice at the Red Shield's next satanic worship service.
If Nigel disappears, we'll know he was chopped up and served in a stew somewhere in an evil, hidden monastary!
If I had all the money in the world (because I could make it up out of thin air) the first thing I would do is buy all the politicians in all important political parties. And all the unimportant ones, too. What the hell, it's only fiat.
But I would never make the mistake of having them all toe the line. In fact some of the best people that I would employ, the most talented speakers, would be the Token Resistance.
I would know perfectly well that people like you ZHers exist, and that I can't put you to sleep in the same manner as I do the others.
So I would give you Ron Pauls and Nigel Farages. Absolutely. And I would have them tell the absolute truth. Better yet if they themselves actually believe in what they are doing!
The lie is in the subtext. They are speaking it in the Congress, and in the Parliament. So the subtext says: The Congress and the Parliament is where we have to fix this.
So while I have all the sheeple in the Everything Is Just Fine trap, I would try to get 80 to 90% of you guys in the Maybe We Can Still Fix This trap. And that would be good enough.
Just because I'm evil, doesn't mean I'm stupid. :-)
yes you see, this is where you are heading towards the idea of outright revolution. violent revolution.
in. the u.s. as in russia, the system cannot be violently overtaken AND remain whole. the little spark of populist violence you seek is the spark of kindling of a fire that will lite the house of institutionalized 'society'.
all centralized decision structures and highly resource intensive production (private or public) will simply shut down creating more scarcity in some ways , and more 'freedom' or 'chaos' as you might have it. In the end, the 'resistance' will never capture washington and new york .
judge dredd comics describe this post-modern reality of a broken american where the city states on the coasts become their own walled off enclaves and the mid west simply becomes uncontrolled fly over country.
In many ways, we are getting closer to this reality.
Exactly.
So, what are we, the 'awake' ones, going to do about it?
Stop taking their money.
Use silver and gold. ( And barter where feasible. )
Locally, where they can't see you, or over the internet with hard encryption and honest banks.
The banks that become clearing houses for hard-money transactions will be the only banks that survive the Collapse.
note 1: honest clearing houses would make micro-metallic transaction feasible. i.e. 0.1 g Au
note 2: internet clearing houses could make wide-area barter feasible, using work or goods that can be easily transmitted or shipped.
Since apparently I am the only one who downvoted you I will say way and not run.
While what you say is possible it is important that somebody says something. Articles will be written, books, and even twisted historical recollections. But there are documents that last hundreds if not thousands of years and if I ever would be remembered for doing something, for attempting to be the sole voice of reason and to have it recorded for posterity, it would be in the documentation of a government, and what better one than possibly the greatest government the world has ever been priviledged to experience.
In addition, while many do not act on what is said in the halls of government, they may still hear it. People may not pay attention but the subconsious of society picks up on ideas, and, as Victor Hugo said “You can resist an invading army; you cannot resist an idea whose time has come.”
You are also discounting the hubris of psychopaths and sociopaths but that is for another topic.
My apologies to Mr. Farage,
I first thought he was some kind of oddball doomsday prophet or nationalist dork...
Nope.
Not so.
What he sais is spot on and I wonder why no one in the EU parliamant chimes in or at least sort of attempts to follow the trivial maths behind this...
Looks like they are all blind.
By the way - there are paralells - not only Weimar but have a look at the french history - the revolution.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Revolution
Astounding paralells.
So gentlemen:
Long tar, feathers, pitchforks.
Time for the ancien regime to fall.
Have a look at: Déclaration des droits de l'homme et du citoyen
The declaration of rights of man needs to be reinstated.
Vive la revolution. Time to act.
Nigel Farage used to be a finaical market trader, ran his own broking firm and married a German so he does know what he is talking about from a very practical point of view and not some 'Little Englander'. He is also not beholden to anyone and as he walked away from testicular cancer and a plane crash I would think he fears nothing.
Good on him. We need more people like him. He gets my vote at the next UK election.
Love how the cat calls are getting louder and more frequent.......Nigel is Winning !!
can we borrow him for a day and have him speak to the mack daddy and congress? be the highest rated c-span of all time
The slightest deviation from Capitalism's natural law is perdition ! You can't be slightly free or partial birth pregnant ? Monedas 1929 Nigtel Farage does have a soft Socialist underbelly....show him some African starvation and he tears up....the spineless puke....where are the real men ?
It is good to help others, especially if they are starving. The issue is whose money you have the right to use.
Not so many heckers these days, and more applause at the end.
The denial is breaking down.
Farage is great at cutting to the chase. However his solutions are negligible in number and if he gained power would probably cause WW III, because he would wind everyone up with his 'style'.
He says what they all know, but so what? It's easy to be critical in opposition.
He would cause WWIII?
Old dude, with respect, look around you. Could he really do worse?
A day or two ago he was on another video, and was discussing viable solutions, post collapse.
Nigel has a bad plane day. What an expressive face!
http://imgur.com/r/wtf/GrqUX
Infinite growth in a very finite world. Guess we didn't learn anything from the Roman empire collapse. But then after a few centuries of the dark ages anything looks like up I s'pose. Now, IMVHO, we're at a place that resembles a puddle of water when after it gets smacked and gets displaced into a thousand tiny puddles of water it can begin to create and grow again. How many more wet dreams of magical accounting can the genius's of the corporatcracy pull off no one knows; while I watch with humble amusement as I continue to drop out of the system. Silly human race.
I think the mistake made by most people is twofold:
1) Confustion between a countries BANKS and GOVERNMENT. Thus, bailing out SPAIN is thought to mean the government, rather than the private banking system.
2) The political entities are, in fact, CORPORATIONS. Seeing that room full of bureaucrats reminds me that all of those REPRESENTATIVES are not repesenting people, but CORPORATIONS. Each and every one of those elected are beholden to the political contributions made by CORPORATIONS. Plain and SIMPLE. They are arguing and representing the interests of their CORPORATE EMPLOYERS.
Putting it all together, private banks stock and bond holders, after enjoying nearly 100 years of exploiting the "little people" went all in for a massive cash grab. The effort is now to shift all of the resulting exposure away from the stock and bondholders, of which their are few, to the state/public, of which their are many.
I think Nigel will be having lunch alone...again.
A Euro bust up will hammer the european economies and hurt British exports to Europe and the relatively strengthened Pound will make Brit exports more expensive. But the Brits won't be fools rushing into the Euro bailout they'll leave that to The Bernank
All these politicians are the nails in the coffin called the EU.
Too right that.
Let see and wait till the marked realize the UK and the Sterling area hit the same cliff 3 years ago. Farage is a City Bankers slave.
I think we gain nothing by killing (or discredit) the messenger. The reality is that Europe is in the midst of its worst economic crisis of recent times. One solution to this problem will be very complex. Like any patient sick, they want to be cured at the lowest possible cost. They do not want to stop growing, do not want to leave to retire at a young age, not want to lose their government benefits given to the average resident; not want to spend less, not open their economy; not want to pay more interest on their loans; etc, etc, etc. We all know that's not possible, but that's what they want at this time. Probably be first in line, we will allow Spanish banks, benefits that can not be extended to banks in other European countries. I insist that the solution to this problem will bring immense pain and poverty in Europe. And this is going to generate some kind of imbalance in the world. Given this situation, I think we should be very responsible with ourselves and our families. This means that we must take measures to prevent this crisis affect us ... and if we can benefit, we must.
Uk is bailed out many time since 2008 by the BofE are you Zero Hedge readers completly ignorant?
Not completely ignorant. We hear what we choose to.
Are you so completely ignorant that you dont understand the structural difference between the banking sectors in those different areas?
As bad as banks and politicians in the US and UK are, their actions mostly fleece the idiots in their own countries who stand for it. In Europe that Mediterranean nations feel entitled to rip off other countries, which is what Farage is talking about.
Your response is typical left wing stupidity- you dont address Farage's point and instead try to misdirect.
"If re-elected; I promise a Choom-Wagon in every garage. Which will be RFID'd GPS'd for your safety." Europe will be ok, until they aren't...
Bought a life belt! ... literally.
you noticed the arrogant face of Verhofstad, former prime ministre of Belgium. The bastard is renovating a old house in the centre in Ghent of course paid by the belgian taxpayer. Fuck him
I'm getting to a point where I can't blame it on the european leaders... the people are getting raped and they all seem fine to me, watching the euro 2012 and all. I sent a the video of nigel to three of my friends in portugal and one saw and said Nigel was retarted, the 2nd didn't watch and said would rather play ps3 and the 3rd didn't even reply. Nothing to see here lets watch ronaldo on the tele..
So he's not like its barroso fault or goldman sachs fault, people really seem to enjoy getting it in the bum, and whenever you try to alert them YOU are the retarded one. Look at iceland. People got pissed off. People got what they want. I'm starting to actually think the piigs like it in the bum.
Sadly true.
Had the same problem with my friends and family in Italy.
But I believe their denial is not because they love things as they are but because they're in horrible fear.
Most of them must have something to lose yet and don't realize they will be "bailed out" until there's nothing left.
As an argentinean, I myself got my knowledge by experience.
Sir Farage has one item wrong. Spain won't be paying anybody back.
<3 It!!!
I always see that while this respected person speaks,there are a lot of big fat slobs sitting around thinking that everything is so funny.Busy on their cell phones,maybe they are more interested in what they can stuff their bellies with at lunch.These are the types that the unemployed hate.Reminds me of other slobs - big pensioned politicians at the trough like a gang of pigs.
Hang on a minute:
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Then we get this the same day:
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Oh dear.
velocity of debt...
Who is number 11.
I suspect it is a swedish moron from the swedish liberal party.
They still thinks the euro is great.
Can we trade a Kenyan president for Nigel. Please ohh please make it so.
So funny.
The moderator who introduces him has his head down and with resignation and trepidation as he announces Farage because he knows that truth and not fantasy will follow.
Global banking hegemony continues at full steam; throwing the citizens of nations into the icy waters while the bankers and their ilk take champagne, cigars, and blankets into the lifeboats.
I could watch him all day. I'll bet those Euro basturds cringe when they hear his name. He makes more sense in one sound bite than any Euro turd can in their lifetime.
While I love Nigel he doesn't seem to be very good at building consensus, which is a prerequisite for a successful politician...
And eventhough Nigel makes a great gadfly poking holes in the Eurozone's credibility he needs to build support from the other MPs in order effect any real change.
So by consensus building you meant the horse trading that is politics as usual. Pardon me but isn't that why we are in this mess to begin with?
I believe the objective is to find people who agree with you.
"consensus" ... bullshit. We need people with backbone like him. If others do not see the right path the hell with them. The truth always prevails. !
I believe you'd like the truth to prevail before your survival rate drops to zero.
“In any compromise between food and poison, it is only death that can win. In any compromise between good and evil, it is only evil that can profit.”
-Ayn Rand