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Farage On Greek Chaos: "You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet"

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Outspoken and oracular MEP Nigel Farage bombards his fellow unelected officials with 'you can't handle the truth' comments as he points out the total contradiction that is the European Parliament's (and 'Puppet Papademos') view of how things are going in their democracy relative to the reality of a TROIKA-ordered coup forced on the man in the street. Greece is being driven further and further into chaos and as he implores his peers: "If they don't get the Drachma back, you will be responsible for something truly truly horrible!".


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Wed, 02/15/2012 - 10:27 | 2161488 SillySalesmanQu...
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Like....CDS default...? Lehman, Lehman, Lehman.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 10:49 | 2161601 boogerbently
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It's like the 18 year old son that says he doesn't need to obey you because "he's a MAN."

So you tell him it's time to move out of your house!

....go be a MAN.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:23 | 2161757 tarsubil
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It's more like someone addicted to prescription drugs telling the doc that they just don't feel right. All they wanted was to be on TV and fit in the red dress. The doc walks into the room, reads the chart, writes another prescription, leaves never looking at the patient.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 10:27 | 2161489 LongSoupLine
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Farage is an air freshener on a huge steaming pile of shit.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:42 | 2161912 FEDbuster
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Unfortunatly it's like spraying perfume on a pig.  The pig doesn't like it, and it doesn't make him smell any better. 

He is yelling "fire" in a theater full of deaf people.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 12:27 | 2162135 Apocalicious
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No, he's yelling "fire" in a theater full of people with their fingers in their ears going "I can't hear you, I can't hear you, Nah, Nah, I can't hear you."


Deaf people aren't complicit in, nay causal of, their own infirmities. 

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 10:27 | 2161490 GeneMarchbanks
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Goldman likey the Drachma idea!

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 12:37 | 2162189 Ghordius
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every new fiat currency is a gift from heaven for the banking cartel - so the more fiat currencies you have, the more you do God's own work

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 12:40 | 2162194 GeneMarchbanks
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FX market churn. A 3-4T $ 'business'.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 13:33 | 2162458 Ghordius
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Divine reward!

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 10:27 | 2161492 Pladizow
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Here, Here!

Hip Hip Hooray!

Ghaw Blimey!

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 10:28 | 2161498 Cdad
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The only truly courageous fellow...on the entire continent.


Wed, 02/15/2012 - 10:33 | 2161523 SheepDog-One
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Apparently so. Isnt it funny to see all these criminals who dont give a crap about the 'plight of man' at all, that THEY created the plights...yet for decades they give speeches about how WW2 was so horrible and we certainly work to protect the people from such a scourge again. Al such BS theyre all criminals. If Hitler were alive today he would have been made head of the ECB.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 10:38 | 2161545 kridkrid
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The ECB has accomplished what Hitler wasn't able to accomplish.  Let me control the money and I care not who makes the laws.  They went about it in a much smarter way.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 10:52 | 2161615 GetZeeGold
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They couldn't get Adam Carolla......but Frange stood in nicely.


Adam Carolla: ‘The Government F**ks Everything Up They Touch’




Wed, 02/15/2012 - 10:52 | 2161622 Dan Conway
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Remember that Al Capone said that a man with a suitcase (banker or attorney) could steal more than 100 men with Tommy guns. 

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 10:59 | 2161657 kridkrid
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"I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents."  Major General Smedley Darlington Butler

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:08 | 2161697 falak pema
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James Bond's original? Shaken not stirred! I wonder what car he drove.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:29 | 2161779 LFMayor
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The man was the real deal.  There wasn't any sneaking around or bordering on magical gadget wristwatches for guys like him, or Chesty Puller, who pulled off a lot of similar stunts during the banana wars.  They just went in, closed with and destroyed the forces arrayed against them.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:53 | 2161955 falak pema
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ideal reality for fantasy hero; just my very point. Real junk and virtual junk in my book. But thats subjective reasoning. Some people thought that Al and Heidrich were great. 

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:26 | 2161798 preppin.for.the...'s picture

We Marines like to tell it like it is! 

Butler also stood up in front of Congress and claimed he was approached by a millionaire industrialists asking him to lead a coup d'etat of the US gov't.  Congress "found evidence" validating his claim, but chose to ignore it.

A couple of modern-day Smedley Butlers (a former commandant of the Marines and another retired Marine general) co-authored a great op-ed about the 2012 NDAA:

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:33 | 2161852 kridkrid
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Those who can reject their conditioning.  Unfortunately, those who can't still feel that they are telling it like it is. 

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:43 | 2161922 preppin.for.the...'s picture

Agreed - the conditioning is hard to shake off.  Took me years.  But I'm inspired by the likes of Butler & Krulak. 

Not-so-funny short story: As a teacher, I had a student in my high school classes telling me 15 years ago that the Federal Reserve, the federal gov't, etc. were conspiring to deprive us of our freedoms and - I am now ashamed to say - I scoffed at his "silly conspiracy stories". 

15 years later, I'm stockpiling food, seeds, water, guns & ammo, etc.  Ironic, eh?


Wed, 02/15/2012 - 13:22 | 2162399 moondog
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Stories like that give me hope. So does the fact that Ron Paul gets more $$ from miltary men and women than any other candidate.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:48 | 2161938 Colonial Intent
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"war is a racket" is essential reading for everyone.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 12:24 | 2162120 Vince Clortho
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Hitler was financed by bankers.  Without that backing, what could he have accomplished?

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:04 | 2161685 Colonial Intent
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Farage supports BNP policies you muppet!!!!!!


Britash National-Socialist Party!!!!!!!!

Where The Fugg are all the intelligent people today?



Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:12 | 2161717 Global Hunter
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freezing immigration, lowering taxes and ending autocratic unelected centralized of control of Europe may equal nazi in newspeak

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:46 | 2161931 Colonial Intent
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DoubleplusGood Global Hunter,

freezing immigration,- why do you think we had SAS on the ground before a UN resolution on benghazi?

We will have friendly goverments in North african states to do our bidding, cos half of africa has aids and a lot of em want to get to europe and we need to stop them.

lowering taxes - Uk has lowest taxes in europe and yet we have highest inflation.

Ending autocratic unelected centralized of control of Europe.

Do you mean the EU parliment or the ECB?

Coz if its ECB im with you all the way, but we do elect our parliment, in fact thats how farage got elected.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 12:59 | 2162281 Arthor Bearing
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"Where The Fugg are all the intelligent people today?"

It must be nice to be the world's arbiter of intelligence. You can declare yourself intelligent and delcare anyone who disagrees with you ignorant.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 13:41 | 2162492 trav7777
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people who disagree with me ARE ignorant.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 17:42 | 2163625 Colonial Intent
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I disagree.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 14:02 | 2162595 Colonial Intent
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I am not the world's arbiter of intelligence, Ignorance is a refusal to debate a point of view, we are having a conversation about a point of view.

Ignorant people dont post here for long, they (hopefully) start asking questions, then they all come to different conclusions and debate the merits of their conclusion's, i just watch, learn and occasionally comment*

*Disclaimer, My comments may not always be correct as i am not infallible........IMHO.


"Where The Fugg are all the intelligent people today?......IMHO"

Fixed it.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:26 | 2161801 BigJim
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Britash National-Socialist Party!!!!!!!!

Please could you use more exclamation marks!!!!!!!! We really, really like them here at Zerohedge!!!!!!!!!!

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:41 | 2161909 Colonial Intent
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Sorry i was growling and shouting at the screen due to the ill informed comments and tried to articulate it into my post.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:29 | 2161816 GMadScientist
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Maybe they're at a UKIP rally, tardbiscuit.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:40 | 2161899 Colonial Intent
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Ukip are a joke in the UK both in the MSM and the general population.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:29 | 2161819 Rip van Wrinkle
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You fucking troll. The BNP is socialist. Very, very socialist. UKIP is the ONLY right of centre party in the whole of the UK.


Just keep listening to the  BBC, troll. You can stay in that little coccoon they've built for you.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:39 | 2161893 Colonial Intent
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Not a troll, I would rather be fucking right now to be honest, but there you go.

Sorry i should have said they only have the same non economic policies.

Isn't that enough?

MSM? are you kiddiing me? I stopped 15 years ago after my first protest march when i got a damn good kicking from some coppers without numbers.

"UKIP is the ONLY right of centre party in the whole of the UK"

True, even our tories (right wingers in name only) are to the left of Obama nowadays.........Sigh.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 13:19 | 2162382 linrom
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I had long suspected that Obama is governing to the right of Nixon. The guy is a closet fascist.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 12:50 | 2162236 Apeman
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I don't care what he supports. He's the only guy in there who speaks the truth. We need him.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:07 | 2161691 Kobe Beef
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Would Stalin get the IMF? Perhaps they could golf with Obama every now and then.

Cable TV should do a (fictional) show called:

"Surprise! They're not dead! ahhhha hha ha ha!" If only the producers could get the Faith No More thematic intro right. along with a Voiceover like: "due to secret occult advances in life extension science during the Second World War, some leaders never died. Instead, they live today in a secret Underworld, which actually comprises the Overworld leadership of the globe. Still, they plot for ultimate power, with the fate of the world in Their Hands."

Good Pitch? bad show? who knows?

Nigel Farage, on the other hand, is certainly a Man of Courage.

Good to see you posting here again, CogDis.



Wed, 02/15/2012 - 10:29 | 2161499 kaa1016
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Wow, this guy is great!!!!!

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 10:50 | 2161610 Mary Wilbur
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Nigel Farage is the head of UKIP, the UK Independent Party.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:57 | 2161686 falak pema
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is he gay or straight, not that its important, except to ensure his political future. The media kills you if you aren't "impeccable"...Not saying I like ONLY straight. Not Saying I don't like lipstick either.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 10:30 | 2161504 mktsrmanipulated
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and the truth shall set you free!!!!!

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 10:30 | 2161506 AldoHux_IV
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Only guy who'll call these asshole policymakers out for what they are.


Wed, 02/15/2012 - 10:31 | 2161511 Sgt. Oddball
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Nigel better make sure he has some trusted body guards and he should fully inspect any planes or cars that he uses because he may just have another unfortunate plane crash again soon. 

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 10:48 | 2161598 BudFox2012
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I'm suprised he hasn't been "accidented" already...

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:02 | 2161673 Curtis LeMay
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Don't give the frogs any ideas...

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:07 | 2161693 granolageek
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He was. He had the classic "small plane crash" some years ago when he was running for UK MP. He was seriously injured but survived. A second accident would smell a little too badly even for the banksters.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 10:31 | 2161514 RobotTrader
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Farage must be kicking himself for shorting way too early.

He's got about half the money he would have had if he had waited until now to start thinking about shorting the market.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 10:34 | 2161529 SheepDog-One
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Same as you kicking yourself for calling the gold top at $900.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 10:36 | 2161534 fuu
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Still can't find the quote can you?

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 10:39 | 2161553 LongSoupLine
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robo, that comment is so unbelievably asinine, it has got to be humor.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 10:53 | 2161625 SheepDog-One
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Robo is totaly asinine, he just looks at anything and sees it in terms of long or short. His own track record of actual trades is a total joke.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 12:21 | 2162101 Dismal Scientist
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Robot = Tyler. Thought we'd all worked that one out now...

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 10:59 | 2161656 Global Hunter
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I missed the part of the video where he is talking about his trades.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 10:33 | 2161520 stickyfingers
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Stay away from hot tubs.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:24 | 2161789 LFMayor
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tru dat, look how Whitney got done in!

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:31 | 2161832 BigJim
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That night at the Grammys she was going to announce her support for Ron Paul's bid for the presidency and give a speech advocating the abolition of the Fed and the return of the gold standard. She had to go.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 10:33 | 2161521 Bob
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So it ain't like nobody is telling them what needs to be said . . .

They just don't give a shit. 

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 10:33 | 2161522 youngman
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This guy is great.....we need one like that

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:02 | 2161669 Colonial Intent
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We fought a war against these sort of people, I believe half a million of your countrymen died fighting it.

Farage is a National-Socialist who supports the english version of the Klan.

Kinda like the guys who took over Germany in the 1930's, remember them?

Words fail me................

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:10 | 2161705 granolageek
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Aren't you talking about the British National Party rather than the UK Independance Party?

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:21 | 2161755 Colonial Intent
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Whats the difference in their policies.

Do some research.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 12:19 | 2162091 JimBowie1958
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No difference between the UKIP and the neoNazis?

You are an absurd,  ignorant little troll.

Go shit on someone elses site please, not here.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:12 | 2161714 Kobe Beef
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And Multi-Culti Marxist Totalitarianism for Europe is somehow better?

Nice try, buddy.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:30 | 2161825 Colonial Intent
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Explain to me how capitalism continues past our lifetimes without the resources to provide growth and i'll consider and debate it.

Multi-culti - Yes its better

Marxist, Totaliaryanism - no thats worse,

Why does multiculti mean marxy-total?

How are the two connected?

A divided europe means wnational conflicts over access to resources and we become weaker as a people.

Europe is a shared Political ideology not a religious or a racial one.

In 20 years time my coubntry UK will be either american or european.

I want my kids to have the best possible protection against state interference and the EU court of human rights gives the best protection i can find anywhere in the world today.

Purpose of the EU is to prevent any one country becoming too powerful and subjugating all the others.

We dont have a 1 size fits all template we learn our limits as we go.


Sorry if i ranted too much!


Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:53 | 2161958 Calmyourself
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"and the EU court of human rights gives the best protection i can find anywhere in the world today"  Colonial intent indeed, something has colonized your brain if you believe this statist bullshit guarantees you anything but perpetual slavery to your elite masters.  You are beyond redemption go back to your nap.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 12:25 | 2162127 Colonial Intent
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Give me an example of how the us constitution gaurantees more rights to the individual than EU's and you may change my mind.

I'm not stupid enough to think i know all the answers to life.


Wed, 02/15/2012 - 12:56 | 2162264 Ghordius
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well, the Soviet Constitution also guaranteed lot's of individual rights.
sometimes it's about application of the law, like in the case of Corzine

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 13:34 | 2162456 Calmyourself
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2nd amendment, I'll put my collection against yours..  There are certain rights I guarantee all on my own.  You not so much, you wait for the bobbies, ha.. 

Right to life: Tony Martin ring a bell;

You are stupid enough to trust unelected bureacrats with your life and liberty.  By the way, don't sell yourself short, you are certainly stupid enough..

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 13:52 | 2162542 Colonial Intent
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In what world does the right of self defence on a mans own property become void?

I believe the farmer thinks that what he did was legally wrong but morally right, if you chose to hold fire knowing that there was more than one of them in the house youre a better man than me.

If at least two intruders were in my house in the middle of nowhere with the police 20 mins away i'd use any means to defend my person.

It doesnt mean i'd fire on the coppers too.........when they eventually turned up.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 12:14 | 2162055 _underscore
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How has the ECHR helped or protected the Greek people from enforced (and ongoing) penury? In a word it hasn't. Nor has the EU. How has the EU prevented Germany being in effective control of the EU? It's plainly & ludicrously obvious that the Euro was purpose built so that the most efficient economy (Germany) would gain dominion over those less effcient.  With only one currency & one-size-fits-all interest rate those less efficient economies are stripped of any protection they could exercise through control of local interest rates & exchange rate. Before we get carried away with how bad/lazy/inefficient  the Greeks are (which I don't particularly believe anyway) the 'stronger economy will gain eventual dominion over the rest' hypothesis still works when that country is only slighlty less efficient (e.g. Netherlands) - it just takes a bit longer! The best protection you have is by not being in that currency area - there you are, political re-education complete.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 12:27 | 2162134 Kobe Beef
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Explain to me how Marxist Collectivism could continue within our lifetimes, buddy. Go ask a Maoist, Leninist, Stalinist, or even a Jong-Il-ist how well central planning works. The Frankfurt School of Marxism hasn't generated their own full-on civilizational collapse across Europe and the USSA--yet.


Who's we? and the limit is simply this: socialism doesn't work. Stop it.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 13:46 | 2162522 trav7777
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multiculturalism is a FAILURE.  Every single multiculti country is fucked up by the IMPORTS.

Even when turnkey civilizations are handed over, the imports revert BACK to the behaviors they demonstrated in their home countries and inevitably turn where they are into copies of where they came from!

This is because culture IS NOT TAUGHT, it is INNATE.  Culture comes FROM people, it does not make people.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 20:06 | 2164117 Cathartes Aura
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Century of Self (among many, many other sources) says you're wrong.

Paul Mazer, a Wall Street banker working for Lehman Brothers in the 1930s, is cited as declaring "We must shift America from a needs- to a desires-culture. People must be trained to desire, to want new things, even before the old have been entirely consumed. [...] Man's desires must overshadow his needs."

you'd love to perpetuate your innate right to a position at the top of the pyramid, when in fact, those who colonise your mind-set recognise and encourage all the tools in their toolbox. . .

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 20:31 | 2164175 BliptoP3
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mutts are smarter than pure-breeds - It is no coincidence that Rome, Britian, and America had/have the most racially diverse populations and the most powerful empires.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 13:48 | 2162527 cackling capers
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Anyone actually saying multi-culti is better is most likely a troll. In your case I am certain since you are actually saying UKIP==nationalist==evil (*cue gloomy soundtrack and scary noises).

Totaliaryanism, a truly unique system....


"I want my kids to have the best possible protection against state interference and the EU court of human rights gives the best protection i can find anywhere in the world today."

LMFAO, you are living in UK, land of CCTV and goverment control.



Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:31 | 2161833 GMadScientist
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We should've let Germany have your pitiful island.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 12:04 | 2162004 Colonial Intent
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And we would have sent churchill to canada and continued the war, USA did not declare war on germany, germany declared war on USA, you lost half a million and the soviets lost 20 mill soldiers and at least 20 mill civilians while fighting 75% of the german armed forces on the eastern front, not demeaning everyone else's contribution but please get some perspective.

And its always good to know who your friends are in a crisis thats why the uk govt ran an exercise of a trade war with america in 2020 including the use of naval forces to defend our trade lanes.

Scroogle can be a wonderful tool, try it sometime:-)

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 15:03 | 2162877 DosZap
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This guy is great.....we need one like that

We have ONE, RON PAUL..................but he's dismissed, and kept in a corner.


Wed, 02/15/2012 - 10:33 | 2161524 apberusdisvet
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Too bad he can't be elected US President because he's not a US citizen.  Oh wait; didn't we just do that?

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 12:15 | 2162064 therearetoomany...
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That limitation only applies to republicans/conservatives.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:02 | 2161525 falak pema
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Plain english speaking of first magnitude. 

But...behind the Troika dictat, is the reality of the Greek Oligarchy robber clans that robbed the country!

So, its not as simple as Farage makes it out to be; out of Troika frying pan into the Oligarchy fire of totalitarian police state.

They are in slavery whichever way the cookie crumbles. Unless there is a true people's revolution and the EU supports it to emprison the current corrupt Oligarchs. Let the people get their country back, punish the Oligarchs give Greece debt forgiveness, allow free and true elections and then good governance. If the same shills get elected in April its gridlock. 

Requires a miracle. How do you give something to a people who invented democracy and now don't know how to make it work? 

Alzheimered into regression. Wake up young Greece. Long and painful process. 

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 10:36 | 2161535 rufusbird
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I guess he don't like the cornbread either!

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 10:37 | 2161539 BandGap
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Oh oh, are you telling me there is a problem?

Reuters just told me there isn't a problem.

This would be fun to watch if only so many people weren't being hurt.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 10:38 | 2161550 samsara
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Reuters is owned/controlled by Rockefeller/Rothchilds et al

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 10:38 | 2161547 sodbuster
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I wonder how long until the Troika has him eliminated? For good. Give 'em hell Nigel- you are a good man!

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:26 | 2161804 kairological
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dude he's already survived a suspicious plane crash once.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 10:38 | 2161548 dmger14
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Seems to me the Greek people are responsible for what is happening to them.  I feel bad for the youth there who have to shoulder the burden of their elders' profligacy, but not the suffering of the older people who did it to themselves.  Maybe Greece should default, forcing bondholders to take the hit for the risk they took.  Also,  nobody should ever lend them money again since they've been in default half of their existence.  I feel worse for Germany being treated like the bad guy for not wanting to continue retiring in their '60's and pay so Greeks can continue retiring in their 50's.  Underneath it all, I realize that the situation in Greece will be in the US before long...

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:03 | 2161611 kridkrid
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Wrong.  The Greek people did NOT create the monetary system.  It is the system of debt based money with interest attached at its creation... created by a fractional reserve banking system... this is what creates the ticking time bomb of debt saturation.  How that debt gets divided represents deck chairs on a sinking ship.  Blaming the Greek people is like blaming a passenger on the Titanic... had he not lived so high on the hog... wanting to take a trip on luxury cruise ship... he never would have died.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 13:12 | 2162343 dmger14
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The Greek people created a system of lavish social benefits that has bankrupt them.  Greek people elected their government that promised said lavish, unsustainable benefits in order to get votes.  Germany is in the Euro and didn't create the monetary system either, so why is IT not bankrupt in need of a bailout? 

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 13:36 | 2162472 kridkrid
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Wrong.  You are merely repeating what they want you to repeat.  Germany IS broke... all Western economies are BROKE.  ALL of them.  Our monetary existence is a ponzi built mirage.

This is how the system is designed.  Money is created out of nothing and loaned into existence.  Interest on that money is paid to the creators (creators of the money, that is... not the creative forces behind legitimate industry).  Only there isn't enough money in the system to pay both interest and principle... so... more money/credit/debt must be loaned into existence.  DEBT NEVER DECREASES... until it collapses (cascading defaults).  The system doesn't care where the debt goes, who owns it, or how the interest is paid... only that the interest is paid.  This is the "ship" we are on.  When the ship sinks, is it really our fault that ship sank?

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:45 | 2161927 swani
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Stop drinkig the Sheeple Kool-Aid from the MSM. The Greek people are as responsible to what is happening to them as the American people are for the 2.2 Trillion dollars in Secret Bail Outs. And you are right, it's coming here because the same unelected people are loaning money to themselves at the same rate as before and we are guaranteeing all of it.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 13:16 | 2162361 dmger14
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Just as in the US, candidates in Greece get elected by promising the most free stuff.  The PEOPLE elect them and benefit from the free stuff.  Those who lose are the ones late to the ponzi, like the children who are too young to vote, yet prime victims for having to pay the bills of their parents and grandparents.  Greece isn't going bankrupt because they bailed anyone out.  They are going bankrupt because of their lavish social programs.  They actually WANT what drove them to bankruptcy.  In contrast, most Americans did NOT want the secret bailouts.  Worse yet, the problems were never solved, as the banks are bigger than ever and now have incentive for moral hazard knowing they'll get bailed out again!

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 13:46 | 2162521 kridkrid
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Of course the problems weren't solved... they CAN'T be solved.  What the secret bailouts likely did do... it gave people a little bit of time to prepare for the eventual collapse.  Because collapse we will. 

You are looking at symptoms, not causes.  Government largess is a symptom of a monetary system that is disconnected from reality... it's not the CAUSE of the eventual collapse.  Which is why I say... the people in Greece are on a ship that is going down... they are not to blame for the ship going down.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 10:41 | 2161564 flyonmywall
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“It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” - Upton Sinclair

We should modifiy this to include asswipes who have been bought, lock, stock, and barrel by banksters. Somebody is going to make a shitload of money as Greece goes down the tubes, and takes the European markets along with it. I'm pretty sure Tyler or somebody on Zero Hedge predicted this 2 years ago, but I can't find it.

There is no other possible explanation to what's happening in Greece. It's all manipulated.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 13:50 | 2162533 Falcon15
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It is very simple. The firms that sold the CDS's. They have collected their "spread" or "fees" against a "credit event" on the Greek CDS's. A Greek "credit event" (default) would mean those companies, like Groupama, have collected their "spread" or "fees", and made their money. In the event of a "haircut" the ISDA does not consider that a "credit event" (not a "default"). The "spread" or "fees" paid are kept by the companies who sold the CDS's and they do not have to shell out money to cover the losses. Win/Win for them.

The bond holders get an ass hammering to the order of whatever the haircut may be, say 50-70% outright loss. Oh, and the bond holders have to keep paying their fees, if they do not or can not outright sell the now basically worthless bonds.  Isn't that special?

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 10:42 | 2161570 skistroni
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What you all saw on TV on Sunday was about a thousand assholes that gave the excuse to the police to teargas, flashbang and disperse the other peaceful 200,000 protesters. This has been happening ever since the crowds have been gathering outside the Parliament. Every time things get to a serious point, these small groups emerge and cause chaos, and all those that go down to Syntagma Square (with their friends, colleagues and their children) are forced to leave, choking in the gasses

There is now enough proof around that those few people had a well-made plan to burn down everything they could that night. How very convenient for the police and the government. How very convenient as an image for Greece, so that foreign politicians will be appalled and show mercy to the Greek government. 

Nigel Farage is right in one thing at least: You ain't seen nothing yet. 

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 10:56 | 2161642 kridkrid
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Things are rarely exactly what they seem, no?  Violent mobs planted to keep power away from the increasingly not so silent majority?  Seems plausible.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:12 | 2161718 Sgt. Oddball
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It is a well established fact that during mass protests all over the world in recent years that the police dress up as anarchists in order to instigate violence and property destruction.  This gives the peaceful protestors bad publicity and it gives cover for the rest of the police to use violence in order to disperse the mass gatherings.  The same thing happened during the last major protest in Greece a couple of months ago, where it appeared that the protestors where fighting amongst themselves, but rather they were just trying to stop the agent provocateurs.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:22 | 2161772 kridkrid
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Do you have any links that you could share?  I'm interested in reading... don't really care what the source is, I can decide for myself what weight to associate.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 12:57 | 2162271 Sgt. Oddball
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Simply do an internet search, preferably not google, for "police provocateurs" or "black bloc anarchists" and input any country of choice where there have been large scale protests in recent years and you will find a number of articles and videos from various sources that detail how the police have been identified as being amongst the violent protestors.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 14:04 | 2162604 trav7777
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Canada did it during G20...seems to be a common thing now

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:34 | 2161860 GMadScientist
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Likely to be the biggest backfiring inspiration to the Greeks (Portuguese, Spanish, Irish, etc ad nauseam) yet.


Wed, 02/15/2012 - 13:35 | 2162469 agent default
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The oldest government trick of all is provocation.  But let me ask you something, why don't the demonstrators isolate some of these assclowns and really give them something to remember?  I don't think they will be that willing to go into action the next time if a few of them end up crippled for good.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 10:42 | 2161571 dontgoforit
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And I believe he's correct; we ain't seen nothing yet.  This economic disease is like a cancer and it's gonna infect the entire planet before it's over.  Won't matter if you've got two truckloads of $100 bills - they may turn out to be worth what heat they can generate once lit. 

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 13:38 | 2162479 agent default
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As long as interest on fiat printed out of nothing keeps compounding, there is no way out of this.  Except for a complete and violent collapse that is.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 10:52 | 2161617 BLOTTO
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Their was nothing happening in Greece on Sunday?!?! According to the tv?

All i saw were the Grammy's, the Simpsons and giddity giddity goop - Family Guy

oh - and the new animated series... Napolean Dy-no-myteeee...

Everything is ok in Greece, no?

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:15 | 2161728 Falcon15
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*cough*main stream media bullshit*cough* You should have been on Russian Times or even ZH, they linked off to live cameras of the ritiong, burning, and looting of the Greek people's sovriegnity in their Parliament, and also live cameras of the People's reactions. The very next morning, most European news outlest had some stories about the fires set by the protestors, and one little interesting tidbit aboiut how the Greek police ran out of tear gas, and were begging for more.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 10:53 | 2161619 Au Shucks
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The answer to so much of today's insanity is actually quite simple... Hold politicians, police, "leaders", banking cartel members, security agency members, etc., etc. PERSONALLY responsible for their actions.  Question them not as they are behind iron walls or amongst hundreds of their cronies and protected by their gulag... question them at their homes, in their communities, at their places of rest.  Get names, post them and spread them... get addresses, post them and spread them.  When people are held personally accountable, they act differently and think differently than when they are amongst other conspirators.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 13:26 | 2161709 Sweet Chicken
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Fuckin-A RIGHT!!! +1rehypothecatedQuadrillion


I was trying to get into the thick skulls of my older band mates the other night about my decision to no longer participate in this farce we call democracy and exercise my right not to vote and they screamed at me "What would the founding fathers you so proudly speak of say!?".


I screamed back with every fiber in my being..."They wouldn't say anything they would agree with me and SHOOT THEM!!!".


Wed, 02/15/2012 - 10:54 | 2161627 magnumopusdeislayed
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Nigel Farage's rants just get better with time. He is amazing, and willing to speak out against the menage a troika. As a Greek-American, thanks Nigel.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:25 | 2161794 Racer
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Hear hear!!

What a great man to speak the truth when all the rest just want to rob the poor, sick and old to feed their fat bankster pals

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 10:55 | 2161635 Dr. Engali
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Why can't we have a  politicians with balls like him? Besides Ron Paul of course. The rest have sold their souls.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 12:13 | 2162053 therearetoomany...
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What about Lindsay Graham?   Now there's a backbone....

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 10:56 | 2161643 Colonial Intent
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I can never understand American people's support for Farage?

The BNP supported his candidacy at the Bromley by-election in England.

BNP = British National-Socialist Party.

With support from Neo Nazis and Hitler apologists why would anyone who isnt a Nazi support him?

Do some research before you "Heart" him, Please.


Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:08 | 2161695 Use of Weapons
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Farange has been a Conservative MP and then founded UKIP (United Kingdom Independence Party); he has also been a MEP for some time. He also ran a brokerage firm in London, so is def. City friendly. Whilst he is right-wing, and conservative, and heavily anti-legislation / pro-business, he's never been linked to BNP.

He's also been consistent in his dislike of the EU & his one-man rants against it have been a feature of their meetings for years now. American politics are so fucked it's hard to find an equivalent: I'd suspect you'd have to go back to an old style Republican from the 60's.

This isn't to say I agree with him, or his politics: but it's a very cheap smear to attempt to link him to the BNP, despite the attempts of the BNP to 'suit up' in the last decade and leech credibility (from skinheads to suits & respectability).

Defending Farage... wow, my life got weird on ZH.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:19 | 2161748 Colonial Intent
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He did get BNP support in Bromley by election, leaflets were delivered praising his record before an election in which the BNP did not put up a candidate in an area they normally did.

I appreciate people outside uk dont know much about him but hes a paid for shrill with Zero respect from any political party in the UK, he only went ukip to piss off the tory party after they found someone to replace him in his own seat.

He is at least a fellow traveller of the BNP and not someone who should be in charge of a school play let alone a public office*.

He is at best an embarressing relic of an age gone by, the dark age.

*In My Humble Opinion and personal experience of 20 years of Tory/UK party politics.


PS, I defended Chavez the other day!, this site is so wyrd yet so fun.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 12:46 | 2162219 _underscore
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So he's now just a 'fellow traveller' with the BNP & not a nazi as per earlier post? Well that's progress anyway!

 The plain facts are that Mr Farage (as can be read on his website & that of UKIP) has only moderate anti-immigration views - mainly focussing on right of entry & residency requirements & ability of recent immigrants to claim benefits. These views are mainstream! The Conservative & Labour parties have similar proposals & policies. Mr Farage found his very euro-sceptic views difficult to reconcile with Conservative Party membership when the pro-Euro Tory faction had the ascendancy. He isn't even regarded in th UK as any sort of far-right nutter, just an extreme euro-sceptic, often seen & heard on the UK MSM. Any hint of BNP-ness would see him promptly dumped & excluded in the UK from any discussion - there have been several UK politicians over the years who have been cast into purdah for the merest interpretation of support for any BNP type policies. With all the attention he gets & his high profile, any mooted 'connection' of that kind would have been exposed many years ago.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:23 | 2161778 Sandmann
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and then founded UKIP


No he did NOT. Alan Sked founded UKIPFarage has merely driven every rival out of UKIP - it is a one-man band

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:39 | 2161821 Use of Weapons
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I apologise ~ he's listed as co-founder, but I see that that ex-Mertonian is indeed the correct guy.

Sked founded the Anti-Federalist League, and the AFL changed its name to UKIP in 1993, when Farage is listed as joining in 1992. So, AFL > UKIP does involve Farage: enough for him to claim some part in it's conception, at least publically.

However, Sked is on record as saying (of UKIP): "UKIP is even less liberal than the British National Party (BNP). Certainly, there is a symbiosis between elements of the parties," and "UKIP’s MEPs are a standing joke at Strasbourg, where their attendance record, even by the standards of most MEPs, is relatively poor and where, according to independent research by the European Studies centre at the London School of Economics, the three often vote in different ways on the same issue"



Right-wing politics really isn't my field... but I'm sure you can make a case for Farage being allowed to be so outrageous precisely because he marginalises the fringe & prevents a serious LAOS style party to form. If one were cynical at all about politics, that is.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:23 | 2161781 SheepDog-One
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Colonial Intent its just like here in the US, things are SO insane now that the ONE person in govt who makes any common sense at all is the self proclaimed 'socialist' Bernie Sanders.

What youve got in govts now is far WORSE than any 'neo-nazis' by a long shot.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:43 | 2161916 kaiten
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Americans dont use their heads, that´s why they support him. They are very easy to buy, one only needs to say few nice phrases about freedom and democracy and americans are wetting themselves like 5yo children. No, wonder they voted W to be their president. Twice. That says it all.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 12:49 | 2162231 GovtMediaLiars
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Idiots and the disengenuous with an agenda use the same smear tactics with Ron Paul.
Some neo-nazis and white power people support Ron Paul, therefore if you support Ron Paul you must be a racist neo-nazi...

Get a clue... 

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 13:37 | 2162475 Colonial Intent
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Not the same, ron paul's connection is nowhere near as involved as farage was with the BNP during his election, hitler had the SA (trade unions) support him till cystallnacht when he had them killed or imprisoned.

Ron paul is right about some things just not all of them, you seem to believe he shares more of your beliefs than other candidates, im not an american but from here (EU) he seems to be what's needed in america to bring it back to reality.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 13:41 | 2162494 Chumly
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classic post-modern politics: build a strawman and watch it burn

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 10:56 | 2161644 pepperspray
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Point me toward the rural Montana real estate listings

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 10:57 | 2161646 RobotTrader
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Fresh new highs for LULU, ULTA and CMG today.


Man, these Riverboaters just love those IBD Top 50 Mo-Mo names.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:03 | 2161665 SoNH80
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Lululemon-- what a bizzare entity. They seem to marry overpriced, skimpy, ugly clothes with some bizzare Heaven's Gate/EST/Jonestown "philosophy"-- their marketing materials look like a Bronner's Soap label (see link)....  good luck

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:43 | 2161917 Global Hunter
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thanks for creeping me out with the links

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:13 | 2161721 fuu
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Sell gold, buy Lulu?

It's like 2009 again.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 10:58 | 2161649 SoNH80
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The only "way out" (it still wouldn't be a cakewalk) for Greece that I can see is readoption of the Drachma.  Regain some small measure of independence, get the economy stabilized and into the ICU, and have the American tourists return this summer.  That fat swine Finance Minister won't give up his marching orders easily, though.....

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 10:58 | 2161650 MsCreant
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I like the guy but folks, these are just words. Did you see his audience? Like Ron Paul, no one listens, he just seems like an extremist crack pot. Sad, but you know I am right. It means nothing. Does not mean he shouldn't talk, but it is just words. 

Get ready, there is nothing that can be done. Full steam ahead, destination clusterfuck.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:30 | 2161829 americanspirit
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I like the guy too MsCreant, but did you hear the applause at the end? Rather more than just a few in that room agreed with him. The camera picks out those who it is told to pick out - listen to the applause.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:01 | 2161664 Seasmoke
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well spoken TRUTH

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:10 | 2161667 Zola
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Thats the thing and it is how Hitler came to power in germany, most of the times in these situations, it is only the "extreme" parties who capitalize on the failure of the mainstream system and they develop themes which are accurate economically but which come with a social agenda that blames one group or the other and asks for more power to the state to solve the situation. It is the case in france with MLP and only in the US is there Ron Paul who has a lifelong study of liberty, a deep understanding of that philosophy and offers a global vision of freedom for the country and not only a correct economic view to solve the problem of debt with DEFAULT (which is liquidation but NOT with INFLATION like so many others in Europe advocate) and BANKRUPTCY which are the two mechanisms of the FREE MARKET to deal with debt overhang and make creditors take losses without destroying the whole fabric of society through devastating inflation. In Europe no man of such calibre exists (yet?) and so to all Americans here, the example of RP would go a very long way.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:21 | 2161764 Sandmann
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Really ? Your history needing revision. Before Hitler Reichskanzler Bruening had ruled by Emergency Decree for 3 years by-passing Parliament and imposed a savage Deflation on Germans after the US started withdrawing its foreign loans and the banks folded. It was Kreditanstalt Wien and the Darmstaedter and the  loans to the Nordwolle textile empire which had falsified its accounts for years to hide losses.

Hitler came to power in Germany because he was invited into power by Von Papen, an aristocrat who wanted power and thought he could ride on the tiger's back. It was after all a simple choice - either Hitler or an Army Coup which Schleicher had tried to arrange and which General Beck proposed to the British Government in 1938.

Does anyone think the Generals will cut spending once they seize power in Washington ? They already have the second biggest spending department


Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:02 | 2161670 Silberadler
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Chapeau, Mr. Farage.

Well said.


Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:11 | 2161674 RobotTrader
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Here's a chart for all the "F_ck Yeah, I'm 300% Short!" guys who pile on the bear side every time there is a "EUR/USD Plunge" headline:

S & P 500 is now making new highs in almost every major foreign currency.$spx:FXE,$spx:FXY,$spx:FXC,$spx:FXS,$spx:FXA,$spx:FXM,$spx:FXB,$spx:FXF|D

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:23 | 2161720 Everybodys All ...
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Major top is being put in place ... the AAPL run is emblamatic. The thinner the market movers the bigger the drop.

Take my word for it because this looks just like late 2008.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:44 | 2161921 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Or we are on the final stage of hyperinflation; the stage that brings tracion to the events that have led us to this moment.

[Sips morning tea]

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:04 | 2161679 granolageek
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Tyler, Nigel Farage, like the other MEPs IS an elected official. They have very little power, but they are elected.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:22 | 2161767 aleph0
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.. Yes, the "total turnout" for the EU voting is usually less than 20% in most countries.

That being said, the "Ruling Class" in the EU - The KommiCzars - are NOT elected by the people.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:25 | 2161796 kaiten
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Please, dont upset them with the truth.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:04 | 2161680 mh505
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maybe it's the rush to churn out all this copy - but hey: it wouldn't hurt to do a little fact checking every now & then.  Farage ist not an "official", he is an MEP.  And he has been elected; so he is not a fellow to the truly unelected guys - namely the commissioners et al.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:07 | 2161690 Grimbert
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Farage is not an unelected official, he's an MEP.

I voted for UKIP in the last euro elections in 2009, and Godfrey Bloom is one of my Euro-MP's, should I be inclined to contact him.

Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:10 | 2161701 kaiten
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Farage´s missing one little detail - 70% of greeks want to stay in eurozone, they dont want their drachma back.

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