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Farage's Berating Rebuttal Of Barosso's 'State-Of-The-Union' Banalities

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MEP Nigel Farage provided a much-needed dose of reality to the peculiar pontifications of Barroso's state of the union speech last night. Concerned at the fanaticism of Europe's ever more concentrated power-base, summed up by his interpretation of Barroso's call for a federal union of states (cue Darth Vader music): "while the nation state should continue to exist, it mustn't have any democratic power," the Englishman goes on to deride Mario Draghi's unlimited money bazooka - though we suspect Farage's belief that "money doesn't grow on trees" will soon come into question day after day.  Super Mario as much as implied that he "will fight to the last German taxpayer to keep the Mediterranean countries, that should never have been in the Euro, in there," but for a sense of just how ludicrous things are becoming in the EU, this clip is important as he reminds us of Monti's (monstrous Mario) recent statement that "nation-state democracy will bring down the European Union." Farage fears this rumbling facade over a crisis could go on for a decade, we can only hope not - one way or another.


Barroso's 6100-word SOTU Wordcloud - need...political...union...states...


Farage's rebuttal...


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Wed, 09/12/2012 - 09:36 | 2785321 JJSF
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Wed, 09/12/2012 - 09:38 | 2785332 Rubicon
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But he advocates government borrowing and fractional reserve banking. Go figure!

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 09:44 | 2785360 Dalago
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Wed, 09/12/2012 - 09:52 | 2785420 darteaus
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Wed, 09/12/2012 - 09:53 | 2785421 GetZeeGold
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Even makes Chuck Norris blush.


Wed, 09/12/2012 - 09:58 | 2785454 Cindy_Dies_In_T...
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Just love Farage!

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 10:13 | 2785516 d_taco
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He is a city Bankers friend.

He was a proponent of the huge City banking bail-out and he is a defnder of the huge Bankers payouts.

Let him go backt to the UK.

Do not tell zerohedge readers

UK budget deficit 8% (is growing)

UK unemployment 8%

UK has this summer record high trade balance deficit.

UK can only finance its debt because BOE is continuing printing money.

UK growth -0.5GDP (Uk debt only sustainable at 2% growth)

UK triple A rating is just an other sign rating agencies are completly out of tuch with reality

My advise to the readers from the UK: buy Euro's now, as long as they are incredible cheap, UK colapse is just a matter of time.




Wed, 09/12/2012 - 10:20 | 2785598 Rip van Wrinkle
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Nothing you say makes him wrong on the Eurozone and the EU dictatorship.



Wed, 09/12/2012 - 12:15 | 2785966 falak pema
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Except the UK is not part of it...he is not involved; but it could spell bad for the City if Euro zone got its act together.

A City which pays Farage his meal ticket; which is more full of lice and vice than Brussels is of sprouts and Euro shouts. 

Whatever the sins of the Euro, the sins of Oligarchy capital in CIty outnumber them by the dirty dozen. 

You chose your favorite viceden when you talk of pecking order amongst first world power centers....

Consolidation dreams in Euro zone create nightmares in USA, thats clear here on ZH.

And thats been my main thesis here in the current crisis : when thieves fall out the devil's tail appears behind the smug facade of righteousness...on all sides of the first world fortress; now becoming feudalista castles; the bain of past European pain in Armageddon demise.

Farage seems to forget that simple truth...we don't want to go back there in Eurozone. But we may have to burn the Euro. Time will tell. This whole issue of nationalism smells of stale vomit. And its proponents of divide and rule poison pill.

Get your priorities right. What Euro rapprochement really means for it to work is MORE people's involvement via Europarliament and democratic decisions; not technocratic ones. The parliament exists, lets use it. Barosso never talks of that as it dilutes his powers...

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 13:02 | 2786380 JimBowie1958
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If democracy could work to unite the EU then why hasnt it? Why are the apparatchiks resorting to centrist polices and methods?

Historically, democracy seems to be  more centrifugal in nature, not centrepital.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 14:38 | 2786780 I am on to you
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You might be,might be, right in some small detaile,no Thechnocratic ones!

But then.again Farage did respond to The Austrian,did you ever listen,anserw to the lame respond from the Austrian!

Lets role time Back:

The Danish prime minister Poul Schluter,back in the 90,th:Quote, The Union is stone death,and will never be???!!

So how the hell,can it be Democratic and involve people,the Frenche voted no,the Dutch The Irish,is this what democracy have been turned into!

And beside all remarks,in The Lisbon Traty,is written:

In any doubt question:The Commision is the almighty power(rewritten in my words)this is Barroso speaking,the litle man whos contry lost Brasil(Dom Pedro secundo,independencia ou morte,na orla do Tiete???) and was dimminish to nothing,the man is a one man ruler,Farage or not!!

Yes the Parlament excists,but the small member states, looses influence steadfast,so how is your Democracy then gona work,is this two and two is, five(derivativ wonder five,like in pension funds),four to Goldman and one to the sheeps??????

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 11:29 | 2785994 d_taco
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You are absolute right. But before we have the EU dictatorship we were crunched by the US and USSR. It is an absolute illusion that the EU countries can operate independent. In the Netherlands our political elite is still afraid for Washington and do everything Washington asked, even handing over Dutch citizens if the US asked.

The intended rocked shield in Europe is still a matter between the US and Russia, Europe citizens are not asked anything.

The extra rendition program that is against all laws was executed in Europe and no politician dare to protest.

And where was Farage then. What questions did he asked?

Before the EURO the DM was pegged to the Dollar and the Dutch guilder was pegged to the DM. Europe policy was completely dictated by the FED.
Farage is not the man to make the EU more democratic he try to sabotage it in favor of his Bankers friends in the UK, he do not give anything about the poor in Greece.






Wed, 09/12/2012 - 12:52 | 2786344 TWSceptic
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"It is an absolute illusion that the EU countries can operate independent. "


No it isn't. EU is not required for free trade and cooperation in any way.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 12:38 | 2786302 awaken
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F*ck yeah Nigel!  Import him and Daniel Hannan here in the US.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 20:08 | 2787859 Colonel Klink
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Controlled opposition?  But I like his message if he truly believes.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 09:38 | 2785325 Cognitive Dissonance
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I <heart> Farage.........a lot.

There is nothing quite like being torn a new asshole by someone with a British accent.

<Would you like tea and crumpets with that new orifice?>

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 09:55 | 2785437 CcalSD
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We need a Nigel here in the USA!

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 12:10 | 2785893 falak pema
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by that I understand the USA needs a new asshole which speaks with a British Accent. I can practically see GW turning over in HIS grave...

Concerning headphones...everybody speaks english in the Euro conclaves...even the frogs.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 11:06 | 2785921 boogerbently
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Rajoy, Barroso and the other "leaders" of larger nations don't even wear the headphones to get (Farage) him interpreted.

Like in the USA, talkers, not listeners.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 20:16 | 2787875 Colonel Klink
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We did, his name is Ron Paul.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 09:39 | 2785331 G. Marx
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He bitch slapped the rep with the question, at the end of the video. Way to turn his words back on them, Nigel!

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 09:53 | 2785424 GetZeeGold
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He does that......a lot.


Wed, 09/12/2012 - 09:39 | 2785335 gggunchi
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Farage for PM!

Seriously, if you are British . . . don't vote for Torys anymore.  UKIP! If you vote for Tories in the next round, you lose the ability to complain. 


It is decided. 

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 09:51 | 2785405 Zero Govt
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the problem is Govt, Govt is not the solution

the sooner Nige wakes up and realises we need to tip the Westminster sewer into the Thames the sooner Blighty recovers ...until then, Nige is a part of the problem too

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 09:57 | 2785451 Cognitive Dissonance
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Agreed......but a very amusing part of the problem.

Even we here on ZH need our daily bread and circuses.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 11:08 | 2785925 FEDbuster
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Like Ron Paul's questioning of Bernake, very amusing, but accomplished nothing. 

Just makes for good youtube "Peter Schiff was right", "Ron Paul was right", "Nigel Farage was right", etc.....

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 13:06 | 2786391 JimBowie1958
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I suspect that the common man's perception that the best and brightest dont run things any more is reinforced by Paul, Schiff and Farrage.

And that is a very powerful notion to get into the people's heads.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 09:39 | 2785336 CunnyFunt
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It's amusing to see Farange's colleagues cringe and squirm while he speaks.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 09:41 | 2785341 buzzsaw99
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Churchill just rolled over in his grave.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 13:07 | 2786400 JimBowie1958
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Actually, for the last 40 years his spinning corpse has been used for one of the UK's uranium centriguges.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 09:43 | 2785355 darteaus
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European Union - too big to fail.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 09:43 | 2785357 Croatian Patriot
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Do I smell "Spirit of Yugoslavia"?

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 09:44 | 2785365 LongSoupLine
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Austrian Dem....OWNED!

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 09:51 | 2785412 darteaus
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Austrian Socialist

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 10:00 | 2785460 Cindy_Dies_In_T...
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Dem, Socialist.. whats the difference? (Funny? ...sorry guys)

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 09:45 | 2785370 Jason T
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That was a brillant rebuttal at the end.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 09:45 | 2785375 GolfHatesMe
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He needs a US birth certificate!

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 09:51 | 2785404 Sudden Debt
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Starting up Photoshop....

.... euh.... If I do this for ya... does that mean I'm going to dy in a car accident of something like that?....


Wed, 09/12/2012 - 10:01 | 2785466 Cognitive Dissonance
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No! Instead you'll be hired by the White House to upgrade the Obama abomination of a birth certificate. :)

<Listen up WH fools....if you're gonna fake a birth certificate, at least do it well. Don't insult me with your stupidity.>

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 10:49 | 2785811 Diogenes
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The WH birth certificate was supposed to look phony. Its purpose was to reassure the Obama koolaid crowd and make the Obama truthers look bad. A distraction to turn his critics attention away from what he is doing. In other words the fix is in, there is no way to change it, so he can as much as admit that he is not a legitimate president and there is nothing anyone can do about it. So why not rub it in if he can get some political mileage out of it?

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 11:09 | 2785932 boogerbently
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I believe Nigel was born in......Hawaii, yeah, that's the ticket.   ;)

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 09:45 | 2785376 MsCreant
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Could you get a different picture of Nigel, please? I know you do a lot but that one is not, uh, flattering.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 09:50 | 2785401 Hulk
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Its the angriest yawn I have ever seen !!!

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 09:49 | 2785394 urbanelf
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I want to have a 3-some with Nigel Farage and James Grant.  Is that weird?

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 10:10 | 2785523 Rubicon
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Only very slightly

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 10:23 | 2785624 HellFish
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Only if you're a guy.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 09:50 | 2785400 Hayabusa
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I never get tired of listening to Farage.  Having said that, those "leaders" around him in the video appear apathetic, uncomfortable and worst of all annoyed.  It's an uphill battle, but if anyone can swim upstream, it's Nigel.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 09:50 | 2785403 Dr. Engali
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You can hear the tone deaf arrogance in that last reps question. It was too easy for Nigel to put him in his place. Of course that idiot isn't worried about tomorrow...he is loving life raping the tax payer.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 09:51 | 2785408 stiler
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Listening?? Mr. Farage seems to be the only one alive in the room, the only one not a dead socialist bureaucrat.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 09:52 | 2785416 Lost Wages
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So the Technocrats allow Farage to show up over & over again for comedic relief, like a wonky British George Carlin?

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 09:55 | 2785430 Nobody For President
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The 'fight to the last German taxpayer' was close to brilliant. Who do we have in our own Congress that speaks this kind of truth to power?

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 09:55 | 2785435 azzhatter
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"Monstrous Mario"

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 09:56 | 2785443 Yellowhoard
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Just got a broner.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 09:58 | 2785449 Wakanda
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Nigel rocks.  I am seriously jealous.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 09:57 | 2785450 vote_libertaria...
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My dream is that the US would have 'Question the Prime Minister' time like the British have and reps like Nigel doing the questioning.


sigh....never going to happen

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 09:58 | 2785452 pauhana
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Nigel:  The only man in Europe with clear vision and a set.  I want to have his baby.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 10:01 | 2785462 juujuuuujj
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Farage's point about politicians bullying voters with recurrent legislation is an important one. Laws like the Lisbon treaty, SOPA, PIPA, CISPA demonstrate that parliaments are NOT democratic. Your "representatives" don't represent you. Parliaments must be abolished in favor of a system of referendums. 

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 10:08 | 2785505 _underscore
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And who says the UK doesn't export anything anymore? If the EU 'parliament' (and those quotes are advised) actually had a proper debating procedure (..perhaps more like the face-to-face confrontational set-up in the British Parliament)  the totally hollow & bankrupt EU integration (i.e. its supra-national ambition) policy would be laid bare & obvious for all to see. What we have now are like rows of nodding-dogs on the parcel shelf. Those jokey waxworks figures sitting in terraces that were once the preserve communist state party 'conferences' discussing the newest 5-year plan are now what pass for european democracy. I share NF's horror.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 10:12 | 2785534 CharlieSDT
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Fuck that Austrian faggot.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 12:15 | 2786200 resurger
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Wed, 09/12/2012 - 10:21 | 2785601 Acet
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Can we please get an euroskeptic which is not just a a hypocrite posing for the English sheeple who have never actually lived anywhere else but the UK, speak no other language than English but have been trained by the Murdoch-media to be knee-jerk anti-Europe?

Maybe a Finn or a Dutch or even a Pole - plenty of Euroskeptics there that aren't just waving the We're-such-a-superior-nation flag in the service of media moguls.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 10:47 | 2785786 Fort
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We the Dutch have a libertarian party now, they will join the 2014 EU parliament elections and I for one sincerely hope that this will result in rewarding your request. Today our elections (Which are just as screwed up as anywhere else in the world) might see the libertarians get one seat, although I doubt it (No media coverage of course who wants to hear the government is problem not the solution) I'll still vote for them and I will support them actively if I have to get them in Brussels.

I have little knowledge of Nigel's personal history and or ties and actually care as much about those as I care about the back ground of Barosso or the other unelected Muppet Farage so nicely tells what he thinks on occasion. I'm however grateful for Mr Farage his rants a part from a lot of fun to watch and listen to he also makes sure that another sound that arse kissing is heard in that bloody parliament.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 10:24 | 2785625 shovelhead
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Nigel gives another truth enema to the terminally impacted Euro patient.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 10:28 | 2785662 harry555
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Fuck you Barosso you Marxist Cunt!


Wed, 09/12/2012 - 10:37 | 2785717 boiltherich
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I think he is right, I think the UK will have a vote to withdraw from the EU, sometime next year. Though because of the separatist movement in Scotland that vote might fail, the separatists are already preparing to join the eurozone if they have the votes to succeed from the UK. So, if the UK is to withdraw from the EU they will probably have to let Scotland go first.


Britain is gripped by a new separatist controversy, after leading Scottish ministers declared their intention to hold a public referendum on independence from the United Kingdom in 2014.

Would an independent Scotland be forced to join the euro?

Claims that Scotland would be forced to join the euro are likely to become central to a "no" campaign against independence.


Also today as seen at CNBS:

Crisis Fuels Catalan Independence Push

Catalonia no longer fits within Spain and needs to explore the option of independence, according to a leading nationalist and former head of the Catalan regional government.


Wed, 09/12/2012 - 11:52 | 2786115 Diplodicus Rex
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I can assure you that no-one on the ground wants a split. This is nothing other than a nationalist politician's wet dream. I have conducted a straw poll myself and the anti-split vote is almost 100%. As per usual....don't read the main stream press (particularly that left wing rag, the Gruniad). It's bad for your mental health.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 10:52 | 2785752 deez nutz
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If Nigel Farage punched me in the face,  I would consider it an honor!! 

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 10:49 | 2785810 Seasmoke
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love how he couldnt wait to jump out of his chair and throw off his headset to rebut the Austrian homo

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 11:22 | 2785992 Montezuma
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Damn you Americans get excited every time Farage says something, its pretty normal for Europe to have "entertaining" politics even with tough issues...  I guess when C-SPAN is full of Jesus, bigots and total retards actually tell big lies, well good old Nige seems like a breath of fresh air. Sure he got some great points but dont think of second that he is part of the "solution" the act is his whole political thing. Big problem with EU is that byrocratic fucks wanted more than it was ever suppose to be, as an economic union, free trade eventually common currency, but they were too much hurry to create another "super power" when the last one is taking its last gasps...

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 11:48 | 2786106 giggler123
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These comments must be posted by American's because Nigel Farage, and UFIP are next to nothing in the UK, out done by the Monster Loony Party.  Really he is all just talk.


Wed, 09/12/2012 - 11:58 | 2786147 Diplodicus Rex
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From the posters' historical entries I can say for sure that there are American, Canadian, Belgian, Dutch, Scottish and English posters at least, if not more nationalities than that. I assume English is not your first language judging by your post?

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 14:26 | 2786733 Lore
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Quoting Barroso: "While the nation state should continue to exist, it mustn't have any democratic power."  THAT KIND OF THINKING CREATES WAR. Barroso is the kind of evil little man who pushes, pushes, pushes until something snaps.

The thing that gets me most about Firage's tirades is the vacant stare of the people around him. What are they -- emotionless psychopaths, inattentive / ignorant zombies, or spineless patsies?

Nothing good is going to come of this. When will European nations WAKE UP AND STAND UP?

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 14:49 | 2786849 Ryuukai
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Europe stands united against the english separatists.

THe british don't speak for Europe, it's the opposite: they have *always* spoken against Europe, the EU and other European countries.

WATCH and learn:

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 18:59 | 2787729 Another Texan
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Wed, 09/12/2012 - 20:15 | 2787872 Colonel Klink
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Love RP but ultimately he's been for all intents and purposes, ineffective in getting anything done.  Just like Nigel, he's outnumbered.

Wed, 09/12/2012 - 20:41 | 2787923 Cathartes Aura
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I'm curious,

"while the nation state should continue to exist, it mustn't have any democratic power,"

isn't that a favourite meme around these parts, that it's the democratic process of allowing everyone a vote that is the ruin of amrka?

as in, when folks vote, they vote themselves. . .stuffs?  and you don't want to be giving them any more. . .?

serious question.

the "man crush" thing is obvious *cough* given many of your posts on the recent "Male Jobs" threads - and I quite like listening to ole Nige, but there's some dissonance in the "nationstate democracy" idea. . .

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 15:55 | 2796726 Bokkenrijder
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This is like watching George Orwell's Animal Farm.

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