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Faster And Furiouser: Darrell Issa Strikes Back, Holds Eric Holder In Contempt
After earlier none other than Obama stepped up and invoked an executive privilege, hoping the next step would be avoided, Darrell Issa just called the president and the AG's bluff:
- HOUSE PANEL VOTES TO HOLD ERIC HOLDER IN CONTEMPT - BBG
But wait, there's more:
- HOLDER CALLS CONTEMPT VOTE `EXTRAORDINARY' AND UNNECESSARY
- HOLDER CALLS CONTEMPT VOTE `ELECTION-YEAR TACTIC'
... And now to give some illegal immigrant voters pseudo-amnesty. So aside from this soaring acrimony between Republicans and Democrats, the "Fiscal cliff" issue will be promptly resolved. Promise.
From Bloomberg:
A U.S. House committee brushed aside President Barack Obama’s claim of executive privilege and held Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt of Congress for failing to turn over documents related to a law enforcement effort to track guns to Mexican drug cartels.
In a party-line vote, the Republican majority on the House Oversight and Government Reform panel voted to approve the first contempt citation for a Cabinet member in 14 years. Republicans said Holder failed to comply with a subpoena for documents in the Fast and Furious gun operation, which allowed illegally purchased firearms from the U.S. to wind up in Mexico.
The 23-17 committee vote marks an escalation in a standoff that began last year between Republican lawmakers and the Obama administration. The full House would have to approve the measure before it could refer the case to the U.S. attorney in Washington to determine whether prosecution is warranted for failing to comply with a congressional subpoena.
The House panel is seeking documents describing internal Justice Department discussions about a February 2011 letter to lawmakers that Holder later said mistakenly contained incorrect information.
The Justice Department says it already has provided more than 7,600 pages of documents in the case.
This is the first time Obama has invoked executive privilege, according to the White House.
Executive Privilege
Executive privilege is a principle that says the executive branch can’t be forced by the legislative branch to disclose confidential communications when they would harm operations.
Documents responsive to the House panel’s subpoena relate to “sensitive law enforcement activities, including ongoing criminal investigations and prosecutions,” said Deputy Attorney General James Cole in a letter today to Republican Representative Darrell Issa of California, the chairman of the House panel.
Guns in Fast and Furious ended up “lost” and will turn up at crime scenes on both sides of the U.S.-Mexico border for years, Holder told lawmakers last year.
Two of about 2,000 guns that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives allowed to be carried away were found at the scene of the December 2010 murder of U.S. Border Patrol agent Brian Terry in Arizona, according to a congressional report.
Holder has said he didn’t learn of the tactics in the operation until after it was the subject of news reports. Since then, he has banned the use of similar law enforcement methods.
Holder last year told a Senate hearing that he regretted a Feb. 4, 2011 letter the Justice Department sent lawmakers that indicated the ATF hadn’t “knowingly allowed” the tactics in the law enforcement operation to be employed. Information in the letter turn out to be inaccurate, he said.
Previously: Obama Asserts Executive Privilege Over Fast And Furious Fiasco
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This is true irony: The top lawman in the country is also the biggest scumbag.
Issa holds Holder.
I hope this Administration brings their welder's glasses 'cause their about to be blow-torched.
What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Especially for the worst administration in America. Let's see how much courage Congress musters up to get at the truth.
If "Fast and Furious" is so benign, and/or that the administration has nothing to hide, then why invoke Executive Priviledge? Because someone is guilty of serious crimes. My guess: Eric Holder.
just the errand boy...
If it was Holder he would have fallen onthe sword and stifled the whole thing by resigning long ago. I believe this goes to the top and in addition there will be a hidden agenda uncovered regarding the manipulation of public opinion with respect to 2nd ammendment rights through gun running. People will go to jail for this one.
Sipseystreet and David Codrea; +1,000 without these two this story never hits, never progresses the Woodward & Bernstein of Fast & Furious, these two cover all aspects of the 2nd Amendment implications.
Ok... Now what happens?
Of course it was designed to let them push more gun, er...people, control. An American border agent was murdered with one of those guns and many Mexican civilians died. This is no Watergate. No one died from Watergate.
Watergate with a body count ...
if lenny bruce died from an overdose of police, frank wills died from an overdose of watergate:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Wills_(security_guard)
Do,
I am thinking this was a High Priority item with players like Clinton and Jarret in the mix. You never know ... good lord willing and the cricks don't rise ... maybe they could share a cell.
barliman
Bingo. State was in it up to their eyeballs. But didn't it start under Bush, and Obama just continued it? Hard to say.
And what about who Sandusky was sharing the boys with? That seems to have been forgotten about. Might have to reopen the case of the missing DA?
"Hard to say"?? Actually it's easy to say. I never liked Bush, but his version of Fast And Furious was much more limited in scope, and unlike Obama's version, was implemented with the full cooperation of Mexican authorities.
Holder and Obama are GOING DOWN for this blatant assault on the 2nd Amendment, and the Constitution in general.
Now, regarding your question about Sandusky...that's legitimate. The rumor is that Paterno was told to show a blind eye to Sandusky because some big Penn State donors were, um, partaking as well. Funny how Paterno died so conveniently, hmmm?
Guns don't kill people. Attorney Generals, who refuse to prosecute bankers while the Congress kisses banker ass, kill people.
this is where the line is drawn?
hilarious.
Meanwhile, I get pulled over for not wearing a seatbelt today... going 35 down mainstreet. Ah... land of the slaves home of the cowards.
You truly can't make this shit up.
Yeah, Holder is shaking in his boots. BTW, how did things turn out for, say, Ed Meese or Cap Weinberger or Janet Reno or John Ashcroft.
Forgetaboutit.
Yeah really... and I'm sure it will all change when puppet 44 is replaced with puppet 45. Right...
I'll take the .44 mag over the .45 ACP.
Don't FORETABOUTIT! First single stap.
well while john mitchell got out of jail on a medical discharge, holder looks real healthy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_N._Mitchell
I was cited by a meter-maid for not having my front plate attached properly. The ticket: $150. The lesson: priceless. But these are local law enforcement issues, right?
Yes, but the problem is systemic (like all the major problems of today).
No doubt this sudden enforcement of "law" (if that's what you want to call it) has something to do with the city's deficit problem.
I don't know about you, but $150 isn't small money for me.
I got a 479$ red light ticket. I think they are enforcing the mickey mouse laws for revenue as well as formatting our brains for more intrusive government control in all matters. Ticket was for a rolling right turn too, not driving drunk through an innersection at 40 mph.
Holder covered up the FBI/ATF bombing of Oklahoma City that is the main reason Soetoro made him Attorney General.
Bingo. "We reward our friends, and punish our enemies."
Rumsfeld and Cheney were congressional aides to Gerald Ford, covering up things on the Warren Commission.
I guess once you see how the beast works from the inside you're made for life??
Colin Powell came out of obscurity to cover up Mai Lai.
Well he did a shitty job of "covering" it up, ask calley...
Colon Powell was an affirmative action cover up dude.
Someone grab some rope.
pen wise or classical grip of unzippered racket?
To HAVE and to HOLDER. This story is so gay.
We HAVE been HERE before ...
God willing Eric Holder will end up doing prison time so we can prove America does not discriminate when it comes ot putting scumbags in jail AND John Mitchell isn't the only Attorney General to have the honor of doing time.
barliman
"Hey Eric, bro, I dropped the soap. Can you bend over and grab that for me?"
although Eric Holder being pounded in the ass until he gets AIDS would be more justice then the Children killed at OKC will ever see, it is time we stop finding humor in Prison rape
it is incredibly immoral that we allow this in our prisons.
Dostoevsky said it best: The degree of civilization in a society can be judged by entering its prisons.
Completely agree with regard to prison rape. What is more difficult to sort out is "What then?"
Unfortunately, Eric Holder's chances of getting ass raped in a federal prison are vitually nil.
barliman
Holder's not worried about prison - he knows Barack Milhouse Obama will pardon him.
And if he wins in November, appoint him as Justice of the supreme court.
He'll hang out at Corzine's pad...
__What Then . . . ?
WTF
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/06/20/by-the-numbers-the-u-s-%e2%80%99s-growing-for-profit-detention-industry/
http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/articles/MacDonald-Solzhenitsyn-200-Years-Together-18.html
from your second link:
damned if that don't sound very familiar...
not sure about Dostos quote....Japan has insanely tough prisons and their society is pretty well behaved. I say bring on the harsh punishment. I don't care about rehabilitation as much as I care about justice and vengeance.
If you don't want to take a chance on getting ass-raped, then just don't go to prison. Or is that too difficult?
If you post on ZH . . .
No matter how angelic your life is, the only thing between you and prison in the USA is a prosecutor's desire to put you there. EVERYONE in the USA is a felon, the web of laws is so thick that you cannot avoid being one.
As much as I really do hate to even think it - you are right.
40,000+ laws and regulations became active on Jan 1, 2012. I am still reading - everyone is guilty of many. A number are in direct conflict with others. "Do you enjoy beating your wife" laws.
My concern is I won't get through reading this year's batch of 40,000+ by December 31. Likely another 40,000+ next year too. icahhasbailout is right. Everyone is a felon. Just a matter of whether you have teed off a prosecutor, or one decides to pump up his conviction stats with you. Completely arbitrary.
I must be one of the lucky ones to avoid 40k laws and stayed out of the pen and avoid ass rape. Don't know how I did it all these years.....I think I'll buy some lotto tickets tomorrow.
"There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone?
But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system, Mr. Reardon, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with."
Ayn Rand - "Atlas Shrugged"
The thought of a prison ass-rape is the only deterrent I need.
That's right, prodigious idea. You're not going to see me driving around without my seat belt on anytime soon.
"Dostoevsky said it best: The degree of civilization in a society can be judged by entering its prisons."
NOT:
Dostoevsky said it best: The degree of civilization in a society can be judged by entering its prisoners?
here, gigglegirls, further smirks for your soap and sodomy
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/06/20/by-the-numbers-the-u-s-%e2%80%99s-growing-for-profit-detention-industry/
It occurs to me that claiming executive privilege is like claiming the 5th, it implies your guilt. It implied guilt with Bush, Clinton, Reagan, and it implies it with Obama.
#41
Executive privilage is like the 5th on steroids though.
(You are not compelled to testify against yourself) vs. (I aint tellin' you shit about any of this wether it involves me or not, and pound sand)
Being a scumbag seems to be a job prerequisite. Consider the following moral exemplars:
Bush(light)- Albert(we don't neeed no stinkin' Geneva Convention) Gonzalas
Clinton - Janet (Don't forget to bring the marshmellows to Waco) Reno
Reagan - Edwin (wedtech scandel) Meese
Nixon- John (slush fund) Mitchel
The mendacity never seems to end.
John Ashcroft and the Patriot Act?
Didn't Webb Hubbell go up the river for hiding Clinton's crimes?
Don't forget the John Kerry 'inquiry'(whitewash) into the BCCI scandal.
always a laugh a minute from the D.C.
quote from: http://www.911blogger.com/node/5932
Its an open and shut case of lieing to congress, however, he will never actually be prosected for anything. bet on it
it's far more likely that he will end up like Ron Brown.. darn those unfortunate accidents
Just now reading "Ron Brown's Body", and it says it all. Let's see how long Eric can stonewall, and whether his plane has an "accident" under mysterious circumstances....
Time to redeem your weapons with the Chicago police. $100 buyback buys you security.
Yes, Chicago is so safe . . .
http://www.wnd.com/2012/06/chicagos-unreported-race-war/
Rahm - "Winning!"
This guy may be the top lawman but unfortunately he thinks that he is above the law...what a disgrace!
This is true irony: The top lawman in the country is also the biggest scumbag.
SOP is not ironic. The purpose of the top lawman is to protect all of the official lawbreakers from the law, while the middle ones engage in false flag attacks (which Fast and Furious was very much meant to function as), and while the underlings ensure "law" is enforced vigorously on the little guys. Standard Operating Procedure.
I think you mean Lawless Man...
Holder-Gate
This guy is in my despised and despicable top 5...
Does this action figure come in a voodoo version? I know just where to stick the pins.
I'd like it better in the jailbird version - complete with orange jumpsuit and handcuffs. Maybe the manufacturer can make Jon Corzine, Lloyd Blankfein, Jamie Dimon & Dick Fuld sidekicks. The only problem is, they're too ugly and no kids would play with them.
But they would make such great collector's items.
Priceless photo-shopping. Nearly pissed myself. Thanks.
Waco-gate.
I understand your intent here, but I'm simply tired of laughing about this shit. Somebody needs to answer for these CRIMES.
perhaps they laughed at louis xvi at some point after he had been revered as the current holder of the divine right of kings but before ....
a condition necessary but not sufficient.
weich's behind doj
right. ass holder
like surgeon general or education, they only front blackface for their minstrelsy
and if the music stops . . . yeh. find a chair:
The Justice Department announced today that Assistant Attorney General for Legislative Affairs Ronald Weich will be leaving the department . . . Assistant Attorney General Weich was appointed by President Obama and confirmed by the Senate in April, 2009.
Judith C. Appelbaum, who has served as a deputy assistant attorney general in the Office of Legislative Affairs (OLA), will serve as acting assistant attorney general following Weich’s departure.
his work's done there, mission mexico's FF lookin like someone's armed militia from the Get-Go
gg ff
someone . . . depending upon whose ffriendly fire and what ggulf. war. on druggs, where raising one's own private army is not only easily paid for, but p r e e m p t i v e bordering on alot more than just a rio roundup, and treason, when it comes to chairing HS's future use . . .
which, given what's already been stood for, means we'll stand for anything
Barack Obama and Eric Holder have only one option - get married. Once the same sex wedding ceremony is over then the government can't force one spouse (Obama) to testify against the other (Holder). I think Obama will wear the wedding dress and Barney Frank will be Eric Holder's 'best transgender' man.
Reminds me of another AG. The two presidents with the weirdest names in our time: Nixon and Obama.
Great, now send the Sergeant of Arms from Congress to arrest Holder, find him in inherent contempt and throw his ass in jail for at least a month.
It's good they are holding him in contempt, but it was done as a tactic nothing more. By having this out there so close to election time it forces Obama's hand when they could say what is Obama hiding who is he protecting etc. etc..
Let me get this straight. Holder holds contempt for being held in contempt.
We have an Imperial President!
Do we call him Caesar... or Napoleon?
Hopefully he will be called "one term".
Nero. He plays golf while the empire burns.
Yeah, but Bush beat him at that too...wonder who Ogolfer can blame that on? Wait, lemme guess... 8)
http://www.golfdigest.com/magazine/2009-02/presidentsranking
+1
Amen Doc!!! 100 rounds of golf since he took office. I hope his golf game is better than his economic policy.
He's got a handicap there too...
Wonder how many rounds he gets in if he's resurrected, sorry, re-elected?
Zero the Nero. Fits...
We call him "Dick(head)."
either works for me. barry
'Herr' works for me.
Now the CONgressional children want to act like adults? I'll believe it when some real fucking consequences and justice is served.
It's all election year bullshit. Personally, I am fucking furious that these bastards are getting away with literal murder.......again. If the law does not apply to my "representatives" then it doesn't fucking apply to me. These fuckers do not answer to anyone. Justice will not come through the system.
My wife of 18 years asserts executive privilege almost EVERY NIGHT!!!! When I hold her in contempt, she just tells me I have to take matters in to my own hand...............
And you can definitely blame that one on Bush!
That one sounds like a lack of bush.
I gave up on the wife. I shave my palm.
Yup. Around my house, "It's Bush's fault" has nothing to do with politics.
fast and furious?
Yes, marriage is not a democratic institution.
As my brother-in-law so eloquently pointed out on Sunday evening at 9pm, as I was getting pulled away from catching a glimpse of the United States Open coverage to attend to the needs of the 25 familial guests at our home..."by the way, when does Father's Day begin?"
There is absolutely nothing in the world of sports or television that is worth five minutes of my time. None of it. Get your priorities aligned better.
subtle difference between an 18 year old wife and wife of 18 years... the one does not understand executive privilege as she has probably not be broken into routine of power sharing; whereas the other is a veteran. The one you possess proudly the other you are possessed by like Messalina's toy!
Inform the latter that you'll be replacing her with the former, then do it!
I had one like that. I just asked her where she wanted me to finish? On her face or her tits?
I hope this administration goes down fast and furious
Now that was funny - don't care - that was funny +1
Ah, patients... just a couple of days before obami meets his Waterloo, [the idiot wasted ~ 18+ months negotiating an unconstitutional 'health care bill', while ignoring the housing debacle, pathetic!] as the Robert's Court flushes this buffoon ideological travesty down the 'crap-hole'! jmo
Il Duche!
Herr Hussain Obama. "Ah, just call me Barry!"
Hook up the "Choom Wagon" boy's it's time to get the hell outa town.
Obama would have thrown Holder under the bus in a minute but Holder had a big handful of Obamanutz.
Indeed. He's known Obama long enough to know where a lot of the bodies are buried.
I wonder if he will end up on any flights to Croatia?
Never forget Barry Seal! A fucker that got fucked by the fuckers who paid him to fuck the fuckers we were fucking. And they were our fuckers!
Impressive use of the F word. And all true. I salute you!
If Michelle and I had a son he'd look like Trayvon but if George Bush and I had a son...
...we would call him Mitt.
FTMFW!
Possibly funniest thing I have read all day, thank you sir, thank you.
I wish I could green ya more than once. That, my friend, was fucking genius.
I was thinking... Urkel
So much for open and transparent.
Unless a leak will make him look good this corrupt Chicago product will keep right on steamrolling over anything and anybody.
Officer Holder has clearly defined the term of "JUST US" - the US Justice Cabal. As the "Church Lady" used to say, "Could you be....SATAN!!!??
So what. The maximum penalty for contempt of congress is 1000$ fine and a year in jail.
Time to prosecute Holder for all the murders he helped commit in Mexico, the two murders in America and charges of supplying arms to a terrorist group. Holder needs to end up at Guantanamo for the rest of his pathetic life.
A one on one lunch with Nancy Pelosi.
Now that's cruel and unusual.
It's definitely punishment.
No, it's a fitting punishment. Cruel and unusual would be if he had to fuck her. Ooh, ooh, can I vote for that punishment?
With a free mustache ride.
Whose moustache - Holder's or Pelosi's?
Don't forget Holder's involvement in the Feds coverup of the OKC bombing in 1995. Too bad all the cameras out front of the Murrah Building were not working at the time of the bombing. Just fate I guess.
Fine, so put him in jail for a year. That would please me.
Everything about Obama's presidency has been a failure.
-Obamacare will be ruled unconstitutional, at least the individual mandate which was his landmark legislation...doubly bad that he is a lawyer who supposedly "specialized" in the constitution
-National security leaks like a sieve
-Michele and he going on extravagant vacations while many Americans are in dire shape
-His attorney general is being held in contempt for not complying with the orders from Congress regarding gun running with Mexican drug cartels
-Racially motivated crime is up
-Labor force participation is at all time lows
-Added 6 trillion to our national debt in 4 years
-Housing sucks
-Didn't close Gitmo like he promised
-Still at war with Afghanistan
-Broke practically EVERY campaign promise
-His secret service embarrassing our country screwing hookers and boozing reportedly "like rock stars" abroad
-Giving amnesty to 800,000 illegal aliens basically spitting in the face of Americans who joined the military to get citizenship, and all the others who became citizens through the proper channels.
-etc etc etc etc
FUCKING FAILURE AND AN EMBARRASSMENT. I am embarrassed he is our President.
Go back to Kenya
I had no idea Obama read ZH. I mean, who else would down vote that list of FACTS?
Hopefully someone he knows does and they tell him bob_d tells him to fuck himself and that he should go back to Kenya before he fucks our country up anymore than he already has.
Spike Lee or someone like him. Maybe Van Jones, ANOTHER FAIL for Obama.
Add Solyndra to the list too
It's like someone on here said the other day, he knows he's not going to be re-elected so he has to hurry up and destroy the country as fast as he can.
I am opposed to both a second term for Bummer and any terms for Mittens, just so my position is clear. That said, I think Bummer has a very plausible shot at winning again, and I also suspect that he may actually feel that he "knows" he will be re-elected. Anyway... "Electoral College Representation Brought to You by Diebold".
Makes you wonder. Eric and Berry? I see two down votes.
mittens and his boyfriend probably
As Alice in WonderLand remarked, "Curiouser and curiouser"
What is in the documents that Obama claims he knew nothing about, yet claims executive privilege over them????? Must be an alternate universe............
ten lashes with a wet noodle.
Quick! Leak some more state secrets about Flame or Stuxnet or something!
Unfortunately, most of the People of the United States hold Congress in contempt.
Yes, but they didn't take an oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States.
oh but they do.
At the start of each new U.S. Congress, in January of every odd-numbered year, newly elected or re-elected Members of Congress – the entire House of Representatives and one-third of the Senate – must recite an oath:
I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.
Really? Barry's still like the 2nd coming and Mitt is adored by the nauseating, adulating, riff raff, all wanting their rent paid. Ok, maybe they do hold them in contempt, but only along party lines. (Red team hates blue team's representatives and viceversa)
Given the oft mentioned Obama excusions in the downlow area, should we now call him the:
DICK-tator?
At least the publicity might get some otherwise sleepy eyes looking in
the cabal's direction. With contempt.
sheepy eyes.
There. fixed it for me.
Rep. Trey Gowdy slams opposition at contempt hearing for Eric Holder
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lIWMghw9Yg
oh please......this is more political bread and circuses for the masses. keep following this bipartisan melodrama as both sides work to rally their sheep electorate, distract from the sinking ship and fleece the citizens liberties while they enrich their special interest masters......remember, both sides get along swimmingly and pass bills with overwhelming approval when it comes to ridding you of your right to privacy, right to due process, etc........none of this matters......