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A Few More FaceBook Numbers
Up until 26 minutes ago, $38.00 was the most important number for Facebook. That is no longer the case. Below, courtesy of Grant Stevens and Things That Make You Go Hmm are a few more numbers that readers may be interested in.
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Please stop covering Facebook.
Nobody care.
It's pretty important...
The CIA is likely on the phone with Geithner and Bernanke this morning, asking if more digital Bernanke Bux should be used to prop up the CIA's Facebook project, before the whole world finally sees all these American 'internet giants' are CIA companies - Google Inc., Wikipedia, and Facebook.
The CIA always recruits at Harvard, and they selected Mark Zuckerberg from the large group of ultra-Zionists there, to be the CIA dude getting wealthy from Facebook.
Zuckerberg is CIA tool, as is fellow arch-Zionist and internet hoaxter, the criminal Jimmy 'Jimbo' Wales, posing as the 'founder' of the CIA's Wikipedia
'Satire' but truthful - Onion News Report on the CIA's Facebook project:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqggW08BWO0
The CIA funding at the origin of Facebook -
« ... funding into Facebook ($US12.7 million) came from venture capital firm Accel Partners. Its manager James Breyer ... served on the board ... of In-Q-Tel, a venture capital firm established by the Central Intelligence Agency in 1999. One of the company's key areas of expertise are in "data mining technologies". »
http://adventofdeception.com/facebook-ciacover-nwo-agenda/
'Ex-Agent: CIA Seed Money Helped Launch Google', retired intelligence agent Robert David Steele interviewed by Paul Joseph Watson, and speaking of the CIA's Dr Rick Steinheiser and his connections with Google:
http://www.infowars.com/articles/bb/google_cia_seed_money_launched_googl...
The CIA's main internet tool, Google Inc. at work, censoring sites exposing CIA-Wikipedia - Here is Google's censoring of an important political refugee from the US in Belgium (whose avatar I use as a way of honouring him) - who went to Harvard and the CIA tried to recruit him, too, but he became a dissident against America, and barely got out of America alive:
Live Photo: Google Inc. Caught Censoring EU Search Results (for USA - CIA)
Google Internet Censorship - Censure d'Internet par Google - Internet censuur door Google
http://www.flickr.com/photos/22325431@N05/6100668211/in/photostream
interesting, I guess Zuckerberg is not allowed to keep all the IPO money for him alone, right? a large portion of it will be used to fund black ops or "charities" promoting the PTB's agenda.
Wall Street has really shown their stripes on this one.
Hipe it like crazy. Parade hedge fund manager after hedge fund manager across CNBC to brag about being investors in Facebook. Then when it falls flat, reverse message and talk about how all the "dumb money" got hoodwinked again because the "smart money" knew to stay away from this one.
+1 last Friday Maria B. on cnbc looked like she was going to cry I guess she got hoodwinked.
I always wanted to hoodwink her. Not so much anymore.
Yes they leverage the information. Contrary to popular belief there are some real whack jobs out there, not enough to justify a legion of intelligence agents (layoffs coming forsure now)
But what hasn't been discussed with the Slaves that work for the CIA is one thing.
That's their entire pension in that shitshow stock.
If anyone is thinking of buying wait for under a dollar. It'll flop around like Nortel.
FB $36.60 Pre-Market.
FB only went public to give the ORIGINAL investors a chance to get their $$$ back before FB started it's decline into social media obscurity. (see Friendster, MySpace....)
Don't forget to add microsoft, yahoo and twitter
NFLX?
What about GE; Coke and Pepsi, while you are at it? Shit, I almost forgot the most important one ... Monsanto.
You crazies are seriously giving Bank Guy in Brussels upvotes for this drivel? Government is so smart it's planning facebook and hand-selecting Zuckerberg from a group of "ultra zionists"??? Ridiculous theory. But I suppose anything that mentions "zionists" will get up-votes from this crowd.
And it is lot of fun...
I can think of few better ways of experiencing organic, free range, guilt free and responsibily sourced schadenfreude than laughing at Facebook.
Truly sustainable bandini.
Are you kidding me? It was suppose to save the world. How could you possibly not care? /sarc
Everyone likes to see a train wreck.
Now that Zuck is married, the bottom chart on the right will be very similar to the chart of his sex life................
He was dating the chick for nine years, so I doubt his sex life will change dramatically.
Yeah right. Dating=marriage??????? Rookie...............................
how do you stop a jap from having sex?
marry her!
Just the thought of his sex life made me throw up in my mouth a little.
Agreed, his sex life was likely already dead....
I Plussed ya. I LOVE train wrecks where EVERYTHING goes EVERYWHERE!!! Fucking messy shit, people wondering WTF just happened, standing around with nothing on their minds, because the just got EFF'ed. Guys like me who THRIVE in chaos - LOVE THIS SHIT. CRY HAVOC AND LET SLIP ME AND MY BROTHERS!!! Fuck Yeah!!!
Hail Eris.
+1 for loving your work.
From these charts I fear it may be almost too late to buy into Facebook before it goes ballistic.Fortunately I will be able to tap my children's college fund to give them a better future.
What is Facebook?
A social networking site where you can waste large portions of your day chit-chatting with all of the people you've spent the last 20 years trying to avoid.
No shit. There is a reason that I didn't keep in contact with you over the past couple of decades.
If I did I would have called.
Or, if you're unhappily married, you can search out old flames on the site and start working on a backup plan..........
Facebook affairs are running rampant............the site opened up a new way to cheat. GOOD JOB ZUCK!!!!!!! Hope your wife doesn't use your own brainchild against you...........
LOL!
OMG - it is down 12% at $33.64 at 10:02 am. Who would have ever thought?
You can find it at www.big waste of time .com..........check it out it's great
I want to see Facebook go face down in the sand.
...in flames.
FB SHARE PRICE IS SET TO RISE TO $42-43 BY MARKET CLOSE AS NEW BUYERS WILL RUSH IN. DO NOT SHORT THEM.
You must be long FB, a Zucker Sucker.
I guess maybe he bought at $38 and needs to offload?
All Right DUDE! Go for it! You go long. Stand by while I go short and see who wins. Come on dude PLEASE???!!! I double dog dare you!
FB may be too scary low to short by the time you are legally able to (May 26 or 29).
You must be mentally handicapped, and the most uninformed pumper ever. Shares wont even be available until T+3 at a minimum you troll. But 18 year old pumper trolls wouldnt even know about basic mkt mechanics, would you?
Take that bag off your head, Cramer.
Facebook = America
FACEBOOK =MYAss
Moss: My mum's on Friendface. My mum! I've opened up another channel of communication with my mum.
Jen: Isn't that good?
Moss: No, it is not good! She has put down her current mood as 'sensual'.
Moss: Have you turned it off and back on again......your welcome.
The $100B question is: how will facebook become profitable?
The $100B answer: they won't.
Yah. FB's real service- data mining- doesn't pay that well. CIA sez- why buy the cow when we get the milk for free?
They will become a "Bank Holding Company" ?
Zynga Games!
.....with an IPO :)
....Oh, you mean as a company.....for investors.....?????
Make their broken default privacy settings in China?
Lay off every employee?
Get "bought" by Google?
They don't need to ... they are simply going to suck everyone in the productive part of society into their black hole so that profits will no longer matter.
How about: FB chart once everyone figures out they're paying a huge premium for AOL 2.0...
Since we're wallowing in Facebook hit-pieces, is ZH going to remove their FB 'Like' button and their infernal tracking cookies? Go on. Don't be a hypocrite.
I doubt it though since Gollum hates and loves the Precious.
I for one never said Facebook is worthless. There is some fraction of the population that will always find intense and broad social networking of value, and as long as they can keep their inovators happy, and successfully integrate new features with existing ones, the majority of those people will ignore the privacy considerations and stay loyal (many having invested hundreds of hours archiving photos and memories on Facebook, much like scrap books). There will be an advertising model that will work with this demographic and some premium services will sell. But they will need to continuously inovate, buy, and adapt to "the next big thing" which will be expensive, or become MySpace. Management and luck will determine if it is worth $5B or $20B.
Mark the suger sucker, just married honeymooner, says he doesn't care about Facebook business value more about its SOCIAL value; is MArk the USA's first socialist Oligarch?
No wonder he gives his bro 'the Long Legged Mack Daddy' such mad props all the time...
L O FUCKING L....
whoever junked me is long and strong...L O FUCKING L...
It is just a website isn't it? I mean, what is so special about it?
it makes narcissism quaint and fun, sounds like it should work for a lot of people
The timing for standalone Facebook IPO was its best. From now on it's short sellers time to engage, until FB merges with MSOFT or someone else
Got my stop in a tick below $0.00
Govt and CIA Corp's will now be VERY angry at the peasants.
I was wondering how long it'd take for someone to put out a Hitler rant on the FB IPO.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzVEK2QcdSw
Unlike Apple, FB has no chinese love.
yer right about that....neither Facebook or YouTube are accessible in China
ooof - down 4% in pre-market trading
Let me tell you why Facebook is doomed.
A friend of mine makes internet sites for small businesses - and a few weeks ago he was showing me how he puts them together.
They all want this 'social media' thing - so they have the usual twitter and facebook 'friends' to show satisfied customers.
The thing is YOU BUY these accounts, for a few $'s you can have 500 instant 'friends'. These accounts have no real people behind them, they are just dummy accounts.
They all claim to have 'real targetted fans' - but I have seen the accounts sent from one of these companies - they are all fake, not a single one was real. There was one Arab lady with the name 'Mark Davies'!!
Facebook include these accounts in their 900 Million users. They will NEVER click an advert, NEVER play a facebook game and NEVER engage in any pay activity with facebook.
Here is an example
http://gettyfans.com/services/facebook-marketing-services/facebook-fans-...
The numbers are bullshit - check out the link and see for yourself - or go searching - they are not too hard to find.
So let me get this straight, we are supposed to believe a liar?
The point to the question, and not denying what you point out is going on, there is no way to verify athe claims by comanies in the social media space that do not charge a fee for membership other than their revenue lines.
On a significant # level, I think non-bought IDs are a bigger impact. For example, most people have more than one email account and savvy Internet/tech users often have several. And they make them for specific periods for specific purposes. That's why companies like Yahoo! have "business" accounts where for ~35/yr anyone can have an unlimited number of email accounts that all go to one address.
So go crazy, discount the users by 20%. It's still a huge number.
Marketing, as a profession, is 50% lies....
Uhm... Global marketing, well just like anything else global, is 100% lies. Been there, lied about it.
Who is a liar? - me?
All I know is I know these accounts exist - which means the facebook estimates of users is wrong - in fact MORE wrong as many people have multiple accounts.
The difference with 'people having multiple accounts' is they are not being created on an industrial scale!!
Fake google, yahoo and other accounts do exist - and I suspect they too are somewhat 'over-egged' - but the difference is the scale and the purpose for doing it.
Social media IS different - I've never been to a website promoting it's "over 500 Google e-mail account holding customers" - have you?
...but you've seen "we have over 500 FRIENDS" on every business from the smallest to the biggest
If we took your suggestion of 20% of the users - well you could easily assume that the REAL users on facebook are already at near maximum 'money liberation' - and that future revenue is based on 'new users' - a figure which is bumped up by the fake accounts.
20% of ALL FUTURE REVENUE PROJECTIONS FOR ALL FUTURE YEARS - now it seems a little more significant doesn't it?
Like I always say - don't take my word for it - check it out yourself. The caluclation for future revenues for facebook is simple.
USER GROWTH RATE x AVERAGE USER SPEND = FUTURE REVENUE STREAM
When one of those multiples is wrong - the formula changes significantly.
It looks like the market agree with me.
FB 33.85 -11.46%This is the condundrum for everything internet. Even ZH has imposters and multiple posters who are included as indivuduals. "Unique Users"... Ain't that the truth.
True, but as I pointed out - the REASON is important.
usually people make multiple accounts on (say) ZH for
a) Trolling
b) Forgetting username / passwords
c) because you're a paid shill trying to deceive the public
However - with the exception of C - there is NO financial incentive to this.
The example I gave for FB does have one - hence the reason for greater skepticism.
FB has been so over hyped that it IS important to talk about it. Soon it will just go the way of the others and trade as another boring social stock. But so many on Wall Street were so proud of their fees, the way they marketed the IPO and then it finally trades. Well, mud on the face of those who bought into this special mix of cool aid. Shortly, we will all be bored with the "hoodie" stock and move on.
Still short from 50,000 bitchez!
The stickiness of FB is it's pictures.
Women and young girls make up the VAST majority of the activity. And that activity is focused around two things, gossip & pictures.
Most women will not spend the time and energy to migrate elsewhere, and in doing so have to rebuild their photo album, unless FB really, really, really pisses them off.
This is not like a clothing fad change. The pictures and gossip history are simply too sticky...
anyone want to make a utility that automatically migrates your shit off FB?
I'm certain that serial rapists and serial killers are ALREADY using FB to target victims. When these stories become rampant, which they will, then the gossip-addicts will rethink posting all of their PERSONAL information and photographs using their REAL NAMES to a website.
And yeah, I'm sure advertisers will just LOVE being associated with the site.
As for local businesses stupid enough to use the site - I'm sure the TBTF corporations will send them a nice thank you note for supplying them with their client lists.
The premise of that site is just SO idiotic. It exists for however long only as a testimony to the stupidity of the millions of idiots who use it.
I agree in part and disagree in part.
I agree with your assessment that women/girls are the majority of activity. I *disagree* on how sticky the pictures are. For these women, the value is in posting CURRENT pictures of them out and about, as it is a display of social "status" to be going to "in" places (either having the money to afford to do it, or being on the invite list, or whatever). The older pictures do not keep much value for this purpose. The sticky part is already having the "Friends" to be able to display all of these new pictures to.
So, a new social network that can capture/import fb friends would not have a difficult time breaking into this space assuming everything else was in order (proper funding, etc.). FB knows this, which is why they relentlessly copy any new social media feature, in order to rush it to market to their existing base before any new competitor can scale up to compete with them.
Can you buy a FB escort?
She better know how to make a sammich.
Bitch hung too long at 35. Funny business again.
Floor at $33? Sat there for a minute or so before power off.
Looks like 33.50 fuu.
I think the plunge protection team's job is to keep this POS above $34. A controlled implosion.
As a web developer serving small businesses, this Facebook flop is likely to ruin me. I advised all of my clients to steer well clear of it -
But this asinine overhyped BS IPO is gonna f me big time. We haven't recovered from the first dot com crash.
I'm not normally paranoid - but I'm guessing the FB crash will result in another bailout. ZeroHedge is awesome at following the money. Who set up these dominoes? Who is orchestrating this disaster?
I don't know jack about stocks but I'm guessing FB will hit bottom today causing a "crisis" that was obviously well planned. Who profits from it?
Thanks.
Dude - why will it ruin you? Keep providing good services to small businesses. Facebook imploding should not affect your business unless your clients hitched their star to FB. As people migrate to new thing like Pinterest or Tumblr or whatever - you can migrate their business there. Find a nice for them like on Craigslist and Linkedin.
I think Facebook has a controlled implosion. Each day it will lose $2 to 3 until it gets down to $10.
It's not even worth $10. Why and who would bother propping it up over time so that it only loses a few dollars a day?
Oh, the reason I'm f'd is that Facebook is the "face" of the Internet to most of my prospective clients. When it fails they'll likely view the Internet as a failure. The recession is bad enough - having what people view as the Internet "cause" a depression...
So my profession is viewed as overhyped and worthless although my clients enjoy a healthy ROI.
How can they just create a fake value for a company - who buys the stocks? Is it just like a too big to fail circle jerk?
Here's a styrofoam cup. I say it's worth $38. Who does that, how do they do it, and why? And that Cramer idiot screaming "BUY BUY BUY this worthless cup for $38!!!"
By the end of the day, when it's still a worthless POS and it hits rock bottom, who makes out from the crisis?
I'm glad it is helping the market go lower.
You don't think they would dump it on the public funding (scamming) mechanisms if there was more growth int he future, now did you?
Pet Rocks and Beanie Babies
The obvious answer is NUDEBOOK.
But seriously, the only thing propping up Facebook (besides their underwriters, who have now fled to their gold-lined panic rooms) is their advertising sales, and once that levels off and falls - they have nowhere else to go.
Again, facebook is nothing but repurposed advertising targeted in very granular ways. It needs users to survive, which by these graphs, show an alarming lack of interest.
Unless they start to get some new blood, the only red will be in their quarterly filings.
That last chart may signal a decline in marital sex life, but I'll go on the record as to how well FB helps with an 'extramarital' sex life.