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The First Money Market Casualty Of The ECB: JP Morgan

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Yesterday, the ECB took the rate on its deposit facility to 0.0%. Today the money market casualities begin. Then again, as reported over two years ago, forcing MM investors out and into stocks is what the plan was all along.




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Fri, 07/06/2012 - 07:49 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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It's JPM......again.

 

I know you lost 9 billion on that whatcathingy.......tell us about the silver losses.

 

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 07:51 | Link to Comment Ghordius
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lol, after all those years spent by JPM to make Gold, Silver and the EUR casualties, the first "casualty" would be JPM? Nah, we are not yet there...

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 07:53 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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You can't make this sh!t up.

 

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 07:56 | Link to Comment vast-dom
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banks are no longer in the banking business. banks are in the meddling destruction business.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 08:24 | Link to Comment BigJim
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I know this should be a big deal. But when you are part of the 'Counterfeiter of Last Resort' Borg, what fear you a few billion dollars of fiat losses?

Replenishment: it's all just a keystroke away. Get me Ben of the FiatPhone!

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 07:52 | Link to Comment Wakanda
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Yeah really, I'm all ears.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 10:20 | Link to Comment JPM Hater001
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"It's JPM......again."

Still accepting members

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 07:58 | Link to Comment youngman
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What is funny is the defination of good today.....its 100,000.........when a Republican was President...250,000 was a BAD number...lol...

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 16:17 | Link to Comment RockyRacoon
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Average the job gains over the entire Geo. W. Bush 8 years and you get 11,000 per month.

That's what I'd call bad.   Of course, the average got pretty skewed toward the end of his term, and the working populace got screwed.   Watch out when slinging those numbers around.

Mon, 07/23/2012 - 02:28 | Link to Comment icetears
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Fri, 07/06/2012 - 08:02 | Link to Comment THX 1178
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That's the signpost up ahead...

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 08:42 | Link to Comment John Law Lives
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The next stop, the Twilight Bizarro-World Zone...

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 07:49 | Link to Comment Shizzmoney
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Oh butters.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 07:50 | Link to Comment ArkansasAngie
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Warm up the presses. Low interests don't make people want to invest. New money has to be printed.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 07:50 | Link to Comment evolutionx
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2 year GErman Bund with negativ interest rate..

 

          http://www.cds-info.com/

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 07:53 | Link to Comment DogSlime
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So is this effectively an endgame strategy?  Get everyone into stocks ready for the final, gigantic cull?

All aboard for the Muppet Massacre :)

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 07:59 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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Bring it!

 

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 08:18 | Link to Comment HoofHearted
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All of us here in ZHland know that we need to buy up real thingys instead of paper ones. Leave the stocks for someone else while we all have arable farmland, food and medical supplies, guns and ammo, and precious metals.

And if I'm gonna be a Muppet, I at least want to be Dr. Teeth!

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 09:01 | Link to Comment mick_richfield
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I have an idea for investment-grade food that you can store in your house.  ( Depending on how severe you think the Collapse will be, this will make sense, or it won't. )  

Spice.  Northern hemisphere people should buy and hold spice.   For example whole black peppercorns.  They keep forever in your basement.  And if world trade is affected enough by the Collapse for the spice to stop flowing ... your friends and neighbors and townspeople will be very happy to have some spice.  Guess how much black pepper used to cost in Europe, when it was hard to get.

Also cocoa, coffee, vanilla, ginger, coffee, nutmeg.  And coffee.

Some people tell me that whiskey would be good to store.  I point out that there are people who will try to kill if they must to get whiskey.  Nobody kills for coffee.  ( Or, well ... maybe don't do the negotiations in the morning, if your customers are armed... ) 

Nobody kills over black pepper, or cocoa -- but black pepper used to be worth its weight in Aurum, and may be again.  Right now, the best black pepper I know sells for twenty bucks a pound, online.

 

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 09:33 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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Just plant a friggin pepper tree (but they only grow certain climate zones in the continental US ~ vanilla, coffee, cocoa, & nutmeg plants will not thrive in most US climate zones)... If you have to buy something, buy sea salt...

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 09:42 | Link to Comment blunderdog
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The spice must flow...

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 10:36 | Link to Comment my puppy for prez
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Hey...I would kill for coffee!!!  Gotta have it to live!

LOL

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 11:26 | Link to Comment Axenolith
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Pepper corn trees grow like weeds here in CA.  Our horse loves that shit, he'll munch a bunch of it when he gets the chance and give you a face full of pepper-breath afterwards.  The early settlers planted them for decoration and so as to not have to worry about having pepper...

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 07:55 | Link to Comment Catullus
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In other words: there's now no reason to hold money in the ECB system.  Let the capital flight continue.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 08:00 | Link to Comment youngman
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Swiss bankers ...are making a killing....safe deposit boxes are going thru the roof....now that is an indicator..

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 08:06 | Link to Comment Dead Canary
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There is also a growing industry for installing hidden compartments in Italian cars.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 08:20 | Link to Comment HoofHearted
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There's been no reason to keep funds in euro accounts for some time...or in dollar accounts for that matter. Yet the sheeple/Muppets seem to do so. Long mattresses and shiny stuff...

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 07:58 | Link to Comment Sudden Debt
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corporate capital of 10 million?

 

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 08:00 | Link to Comment Gief Gold Plox
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How long before some bureaucrat tries to introduce a periodic, legally binding, obligation to invest a state-defined percentage of your income into... Oh wait! Goddamn it.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 08:21 | Link to Comment HoofHearted
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How long before we can opt out of the social security system? Now there's a better question....

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 08:03 | Link to Comment CheapBastard
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China is in trouble also:

 

China Cuts Benchmark Rates for Second Time in Month

 

The one-year lending rate will fall by 31 basis points and the one-year deposit rate will drop by 25 basis points effective tomorrow, the People’s Bank of China said on its website today. The discount banks can offer on loans was widened to 30 percent from 20 percent, according to the statement.

 

China announced the interest-rate move at the same time as the BOE raised its asset-purchase target by 50 billion pounds ($78 billion) to 375 billion pounds, restarting its expansion of stimulus. Forty-five minutes later, the ECB cut its benchmark interest rate by a quarter percentage point to 0.75 percent and lowered its deposit rate to zero from 0.25 percent.

 

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-07-05/china-cuts-benchmark-rates-for-...

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 08:04 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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China is in trouble also:

 

Can't be.....I hear they have 500 new ghost cities in the works.

 

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 08:09 | Link to Comment CheapBastard
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Plenty of new airports but few passengers in China A construction spree brings flight service to some unlikely locales, and a hoped-for spurt in air traffic fails to materialize.

 

Reporting from Libo, China — It's less than two hours before boarding time but most of the staff of Libo Airport are walking off their dinner of spicy dog meat with an evening stroll around the parking lot.

Others sit in a circle on a grassy median smoking cigarettes and marveling at a full moon. A security guard naps on a metal bench. A saleswoman behind the ticket counter enjoys a shoulder rub in the darkened terminal.

 

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/mar/13/business/la-fi-china-airport13-2...

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 09:12 | Link to Comment aerojet
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Dogmeat, lol!  There's nearly 1.5 billion people in China and they are so poor they eat dogs.  Who thought they were going to be flying anywhere?

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 10:56 | Link to Comment Totentänzerlied
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"Even by rural Chinese standards, this place is a backwater. Roosters live in apartment courtyards. A sit-down restaurant means a stool on a dusty floor"

Oh, irony.

""But an airport's purpose is not just making money," he said."

Oh, Chinese US Citizenism.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 08:10 | Link to Comment recidivist
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serviced by a fleet of ghost tankers and freighters...

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 08:13 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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That damn plane refueled itself and took off again with no one onboard....it was kinda spooky to watch.

 

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 08:32 | Link to Comment Arnold Ziffel
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"Can you at least turn on the lights?" asks a traveler carrying a bag of snacks. "I'd like to see what I'm eating."

 

lol...pretty funny

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 08:39 | Link to Comment LongSoupLine
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Can't be.....I hear they have 500 new ghost cities in the works.

 

Yep, and all 500 of them will be channel stuffed by GM and TATA.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 08:19 | Link to Comment hedgehog9999
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The Central Banks co-ordinated moves yesterday (as at many other occassions in the recent past) can only be explained as racqueteering at the highest levels.

An even then this thing is worsening by the day.............

 

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 08:24 | Link to Comment BigJim
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 ...can only be explained as racqueteering at the highest levels...

Yes, our CBs are colluding to 'squash' savers.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 08:21 | Link to Comment giggler123
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You'd of thought these people in control wanted the system to fail?   The bank runs will start then the highstreet offers 0% or negative rates - I know they do now because of inflation but when they *actually* start offering 0% so called products, people will take their money and the game is over.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 08:32 | Link to Comment midgetrannyporn
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Just another tricky day for JPM's version of the muppets.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 08:44 | Link to Comment orangedrinkandchips
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Not sure if you are referencing the song...Another Tricky Day....I highly recommend it.....classic! (by The Who)

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 08:45 | Link to Comment orangedrinkandchips
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Ok. So You can get out and switch out BUT YOU CANT GET IN??

It is a form of stress but not as bad as it could be or will be....no?

 

so they cant get in.....who would want to?

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 09:09 | Link to Comment aerojet
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Ugh, we're at zero and staying there--forever.  I still have MM fund accounts and I hate looking at the statements.  American Funds, which used to be a bulwark of widow & orphan investing, is killing me.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 09:14 | Link to Comment GMadScientist
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1st world problems.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 09:19 | Link to Comment tmosley
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You really think that having your money stolen via inflation and other central banking machinations is a first world problem?

This is how first world nations become third world nations.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 09:48 | Link to Comment blunderdog
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It's not really a 1st world problem.  Having enough money to be truly upset by low-interest rates is a RICH PERSON problem.

It's just so tragic that money just doesn't magically turn into more money the way it used to.  Heh.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 10:03 | Link to Comment jal
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Here .. you forgot something ...

It's just so tragic that money just doesn't magically turn into more money the way it used to ... for the middle class.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 16:15 | Link to Comment blunderdog
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Nah.  I was middle-class for the first half of my career, and never once did my money turn into more.  Wrong generation, I guess--I didn't arrive to the market until the early '90s, and by then, the "buy and hold" strategy was already obsolete.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 09:38 | Link to Comment orangedrinkandchips
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"Dont sweat it....that's where I am....no future at all.....who woulda thought it....that's where we are..."

I use to work closely with STIFs.....that was back when it was 400-600bps.....then 911 came and I thought I saw it all with a 78bps REPO quote....shit...now it's 7bps IF YOURE LUCKY!

 

And that is wholesale quote....normally banks play with, say, 500bps REPO, and the banks takes 30-40bps for profit like normal....

 

but 7 bps? You are spending more for people to work this junk and a few cents isnt close to worth it....

 

Ironic....at a time when rates should be sky high due to the risk they are down....It's like stepping outside your door and floating up beacause gravity stopped working!

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 09:29 | Link to Comment Downtoolong
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And when all else fails and you still won't succumb to their coercion, what next? They just lobby your government to step in and do your buying and selling for you.

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