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First Official Greek Exit Polls: Pro-Bailout Parties Plunge; Anti-Bailout Radical Left, Neo-Nazis Soar

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As we expected, the previous unofficial poll forecasts were total rubbish, and according to exit polls from NET TV, the results are as follows:

  • New Democracy: 17-20%
  • Pasok: 14-17%
  • In a stunner, Syrizia, or the coalition of the radical left - a vehement anti-Bailout party - gets more votes than the ruling PASOK party: 15.5%-18.5%
  • Independent Greeks: 10-12%
  • Finally, and not surprisingly in the aftermath of the French results, the ultra right Golden Dawn gets 6-8% of the vote and will make it into Parliament

Visually from Athens News:

Tallied across, up to 60% of the new parliament will be anti-bailout (at least according to exit polls), and hence "Domino toppling." Good luck with that pro-bailout coalition government. Needless to say these results are very ugly and make any prospect of a pro-bailout coalition cabinet virtually impossible. Suddenly the fate of the European experiment is in the hands of the ultra right and the far left - yup, Neo-Nazis will determine the future of Europe. How quaint... again - congratulations Europe.

For much more on the implications of this stunning success of the anti-bailout powers, see here and here.

And to paraphrase Schrodinger Schauble:


"If Greek voters were to vote for a majority that does not honour those agreements, then Greece will have to bear the consequences of that
" - RTRS

Here come the consequences - Mikaël Charozé will be a very busy man tonight.

Watch the developing election results, whose implications are far greater than anything out of France, live at Mega TV after the jump:

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More exit polls updates from Athens-News:

Public Issue for Skai
 
(min-max, in %)

  • New Democracy 20.5-24.5
  • Radical Left Coalition (Syriza) 14-18
  • Pasok 13-17
  • Communist Party 7-10.5
  • Independent Greeks 7-10
  • Democratic Left 6-9
  • Golden Dawn 5-8
  • Ecogreens 2-4
  • Popular Orthodox Rally (Laos) 2-4
  • Drasi 1-3
  • Democratic Alliance 1-3

7pm Here are the results of the exit polls
 
(min-max, in %)

  • New Democracy 17-20
  • Radical Left Coalition (Syriza) 15.5-18.5
  • Pasok 14-17
  • Independent Greeks 10-12
  • Communist Party 7.5-9.5
  • Golden Dawn 6-8
  • Democratic Left 4.5-6.5
  • Popular Orthodox Rally (Laos) 2.5-3.5
  • Democratic Alliance 2.5-3.5
  • Ecogreens 2.5-3.5
  • Drasi 2-2.8
  • Recreate Greece 1.9-2.5
  • Anticapitalist Left 1.2-2
  • Others 2-4

And just to confirm that the world is losing it, in the Schleswig-Holstein election, according to ARD, after the CDU (with 30.5%), SPD with 29.5%, Green Party with 14%, and FDP with 8.5%, we get... the Pirate Party 8%.

So Neo-Nazis in Greece, Pirates in Germany: the world has officially lost it.

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Sun, 05/06/2012 - 12:10 | 2400746 Mae Kadoodie
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Neo-Greckos??

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 12:16 | 2400758 Oracle of Kypseli
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The real lesson here for all is that the established parties are no longer in control to play ping pong.

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 12:46 | 2400828 navy62802
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That video reminds me of a certain former Republican presidential candidate ...

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 13:12 | 2400884 Harbanger
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Did he finally say nein, nein, nein plan?

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 13:25 | 2400912 SilverTree
Sun, 05/06/2012 - 13:48 | 2400962 your neighbor
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Streaming of NV State convention

 

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nevadaconvention
Sun, 05/06/2012 - 13:49 | 2400965 your neighbor
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Streaming of NV State convention

 

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nevadaconvention
Sun, 05/06/2012 - 13:06 | 2400866 greyghost
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laugh like hell...far right as the "NEO-NAZIS". but but but...you don't call the far left "COMMUNISTS"? really...unbelievable you clowns still think there is a dimes worth of difference between the two! who has killed more people on this planet..hitler? our sweet uncle joe stalin? how about the great chairman mao? hint: combine the latter two numbers together for a truely stunning figure, throw in the first asshole's numbers and people want to know why there is no freedom anymore. THEY ARE ALL DEAD? yet the buzz words "neo-nazi" fly like crap from a goose. i know there is a reason that both camps shoot the teachers first and ask questions later...do you? since it appears the commie's have taken over....does that mean they are updating their lists?

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 13:27 | 2400916 redcorona
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You can call us nazi's, neo-nazi's, fascists or whatever you want, just don't call us late for dinner.  Seriously though, can non Greeks join the Golden Dawn?

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 13:57 | 2400987 Clashfan
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The term "Golden Dawn" reminds me of Yeats and Crowley. Can't help it.

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 14:03 | 2401002 Vampyroteuthis ...
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Still better than Golden Showers!

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 14:05 | 2401012 Spitzer
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Whatever you want to call them, it sounds like they are warming up the ovens in Europe again...

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 15:19 | 2401280 BarryG
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Hitler;Sudetenland in 1938;
"A defeated nation can even better than a victorious nation be trained and prepared for the day of final victory. It may happen that I cannot win victory at once in this coming war; we may be forced to interrupt it. Then we will all be back underground. But after some years, when the weak and inefficient democracies will have utterly failed to solve the world's postwar problems, then we will suddenly break loose from underground and our stupefied enemies will discover all too late that millions of their own youth, misguided by weak education, disappointed by democracy's failure, will be on our side. Victory in this Third World War will be quick and easy."

http://www.germanywatch.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/de-industrialisation-in-war.html

 

 

 

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 15:43 | 2401343 bigkahuna
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All of these European countries are like knats compared to the Soviet Union, err, I mean Russia.

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 16:23 | 2401421 redcorona
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QQ

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 13:44 | 2400952 TBT or not TBT
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Long story short, both nationalist socialists and internationalist socialists are still STATISTS, and so have much in common.   

During crisis, nationalism comes into vogue with great passion, and the left coops the nationalism shtick of the "far right" socialists.

This will repeat itself across Europe as the cancer of insolvency and impossible entitlement promises spreads like wildfire.

Example, the French "Far right" which are statists across the board just like the mainstream parties, plus an anti-immigrant/antisemitic streak, and a certain nostalgia/pride for French culture.   The setup is the same there as in Greece.   Hollande's strong words against the stability pact and treaties and so on are the beginning of the switch.   He has no pure ideology, it's about getting power, and nationalism/scapegoating sells to a public raised by central government schools to believe their system SHOULD work just fine.   A scapegoat is needed.   Banks, jews, "mondialisme", capitalisme, immigrants, the rich, and so on.

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 14:32 | 2401107 Woodyg
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The banks Are GUILTY -

That doesn't make them scapegoats - it's called justice....

A scapegoat gets Unmerited blame.....

The banksters get well deserved blame.....

Big difference...

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 15:38 | 2401331 Treason Season
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Mandatory down vote for bullshit buzzword "anti-semetic".

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 14:01 | 2400996 Clashfan
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Just for kicks can we consider Pol Pot in there too? Some people are more brotherly than others, comrade.

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 18:20 | 2401737 Antifaschistische
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agree...but this isn't the big miss.  The big miscalculation here is that when these new politicians take they're seats in parliament, that they will stay true to their campaign positions.   Is that ever true?  the non-bailout position was the popular position to take this go-around.   Sort of like, Obama campaigning against budget deficits.   This issue isn't resolved just because of this election.  Let's wait to the first vote to see where they really stand.  At this point, the big money will start to buy them out...one by one.

Mon, 05/07/2012 - 03:43 | 2402675 Madrid2020
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If you tell any European pinko that Communism is as intrinsically evil as Fascism,they'll look at you like you're either insane or farted. Point out that Commies killed over 100 million (Stalin,Mao,Pol Pot) and Hitler give or take 6 million and they shrug,then call you a fascist! It's an unbelievable denial mechanism.

 

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 13:19 | 2400899 Jake88
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Oh yeah? Tell me who has the money?

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 13:33 | 2400927 dereksatkinson
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I disagree. The lesson is that on a long enough time horizon, ponzi goes to zero.

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 14:35 | 2401121 Darth..Putter
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The results of a divisive control plan, whereby the powered elite get to riffle the pockets of the public without end.

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 21:18 | 2402208 Element
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As Tyler said a couple of months back, as goes Greece, so goes the rest of the ECB/IMF economik kitty-litter in Europe. The EU Commission should have acted earlier ,,,, and banned voting.

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 12:49 | 2400832 slaughterer
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Looks like 2012 will be the third year straight where the global market watches 24/7 the Greek cliffhanger tragedy through the lies and idiocy of EU politicians.    Is everybody ready for this ... ONCE AGAIN?

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 13:40 | 2400947 Desert Irish
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And my friends thought I was nuts when I started buying microwave popcorn by the boxload.....well who's laughing now

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 14:02 | 2401003 Clashfan
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Really. Either we're watching a wheel come off in slow motion (a seemingly insignificant but actually load-bearing wheel), or this has all been orchestrated (my bet) with the purpose of monitoring, measuring, and psychologically evaluating the blowback (especially electronically). Such measurements help TPTB plan future fun. Long on popcorn and spirits.

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 12:56 | 2400850 Gully Foyle
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/citing-security-us-aban...

U.S. abandons consulate site in Afghanistan, citing security risks

After signing a 10-year lease and spending more than $80 million on a site envisioned as the United States’ diplomatic hub in northern Afghanistan, American officials say they have abandoned their plans, deeming the location for the proposed compound too dangerous.

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 14:39 | 2401137 BigJim
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The sheer genius of central planning is evident for all to see,

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 22:38 | 2402374 rotagen
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Yeah right.  What's a Neo-Nazi in greece?  Someone who wants to end the zionist banker hell that the world is now in?  Actually no humans needed, Fukushima will cause a mass extinction event by the end of the year.  85 times more Cesium than chernobyl people,

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 12:11 | 2400748 cossack55
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Familiar.  The French commies and the nazis teamed up in 40' to whip the French in 4 weeks.

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 12:45 | 2400825 Long-John-Silver
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How does someone neg history?

Hitler and his Nazi party leaders took Germany from utter bankruptcy to prosperity in just a few years. Everyone forgets that this was the reason the German population supported Hitler and the Nazi's to the very bitter end.

 

You are witnessing a return to European Fascism in it's early stages. History is about to repeat one of it's most destructive eras sense the Dark Ages.

 

America is headed down the exact same path no matter if Obama is re-elected or the Presidency is handed off to Romney. They share the same puppet masters box.

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 13:09 | 2400872 tmosley
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No, they burned capital with fiat currency.  If the Nazis had sat on their hands and not gone to war with anyone save in defence of territorial integrety, their policies would have done exactly what the same policies did in Spain under Marco, ie destroyed the economy.  

Fascism is the same as Communism.  The only reason the two fought each other so stongly was because they were so similar that the same type of people joined both parties, and neither one wanted competition.  Claiming they are different because they fought each other so strongly is like claiming the the Bloods and the Crips are different because they kill each other.

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 13:13 | 2400885 toothpicker
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they were made to go to war

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 14:07 | 2401016 Vampyroteuthis ...
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In the short term, building a military industrial complex gets the economy going. In the long term, it leads to its destruction through waste of productive capital. For example, see the Soviet Union and soon the US unless we rapidly change our ways.

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 14:51 | 2401181 tmosley
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But they took it much further than they had to, hence my inclusion of the qualifier "save for defense of territorial integrity".

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 13:47 | 2400959 francis_sawyer
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 "If the Nazis had sat on their hands and not gone to war with anyone save in defence of territorial integrety, their policies would have done exactly what the same policies did in Spain under Marco, ie destroyed the economy."

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I guess on an economic level that basically makes Paul Krugman a Nazi... Hey ~ No arguments from this camp on that...

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 14:09 | 2401031 Clashfan
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Tmosely, I've been enjoying reading your posts for years. :)

I have to quibble, though, with the second half of this post, most especially with the strong wording, "the only reason." I might offer that secret societies and influential families were at work at least on ideologies and financing--on both sides. Start with the Rothschilds (on both sides), Thule (Nazis), and various, other occult societies (Freemasonry, Theosophy). People throw around derogatory terms like "conspiracy theory," but the influence of such groups is difficult to refute. At the very least, too, the Catholic Church (especially some of its interior cadres) was acquiescent in a lot of this.

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 14:55 | 2401195 tmosley
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Such people don't have or produce any real wealth.  At best, it is wealth confiscated from unknown parties in the past, and at worst, it was confiscation from everyone by inflation/money printing.  In the end it is the same thing, and couldn't last under any circumstances, no matter who was pulling the strings.

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 14:43 | 2401157 Lednbrass
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There are substantial economic differences- Communism did not allow private property and private business ownership, Nazism very much did. You could not accumulate any wealth under Communism without being stood against the wall, you could in Nazi Germany.

As noted above, the main similarity was total Statism but that does not make them synonymous by any stretch though alot in the US whose concept of history has been shaped by TV and Hollywood seem to think so and its now in fashion amongs repubs and a few other groups to claim that NS was far left. I dont know what the tax system was like under Stalin, but as a point of reality the highest individual tax rate under Hitler was roughly 15%, considerably less socialist than the US today.

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 14:48 | 2401172 tmosley
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Incorrect.  Party members could and can accumulate wealth in Communist societies, and are the equivilent of the party members who were placed at the head of corporations (or the corporation heads who became party members).  Anyone who owned a major business but didn't join the Nazi party had their property confiscated and given to a party member.

Yes, they were exactly the same.  We just don't see it that way because the Nazi regime didn't last long enough for them to run out of seed corn and unpopular human flesh to eat.

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 14:57 | 2401202 GeneMarchbanks
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You have an eye for historical analysis and for the subtlety of collectivist movements. Also, you're utterly delusional. That is all.

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 16:11 | 2401395 tmosley
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How am I "delusional"?

I see things differently than you do?

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 16:42 | 2401494 GeneMarchbanks
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How? Can't say I'm not a psychiatrist.

You see nothing. You ignore the nuance of all social movements past and present, cherry-picking facts to create generalizations to suit your world-view. As much is reported on these movements in history, even more is distorted --heavily. None of this can be reduced to a sound bite or covered entirely in a blog post.

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 19:46 | 2401990 tmosley
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Funny that you seem to think you are the keeper of reality, when you know so very little.

If you want to discuss history, do so, don't pull this passive aggressive bullshit.  I am open to factual corrections, and with enough factual correction, an ideological correction.  I have arrived at my current ideology by passing across practtcally every other ideology out there, and finding them to either be demonstrably wrong or unworkable.  

If you have a problem with the things I say, say so, don't just wave your hands and say "BAWWWWWW--YOU'RE CRAZY!!!@12!"  That is the sign of an intelectual coward.  

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 15:41 | 2401309 Lednbrass
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Got some examples of non-Jewish non-Party members having businesses confiscated because they did not belong? It didnt work that way, though someone could lose their business for pissing off the wrong Party official or saying things deemed treasonous by Big Bruder (that certainly did happen) people didnt lose businesses because they did not belong. While membership certainly greased the wheels it did not mean your business would be confiscated if you did not belong.

The entire Prussian nobility military caste would have lost their agricultural enterprises if that had been the case, it simply is not true. You are mistaken.

I see two groups in the US who push hard on the argument that Nazism and Communism are identical despite the huge differences. Interventionist foreign policy repubs and Jewish writers- both of which have their own axes to grind when it comes to that period in history. That argument is incorrect and a distortion beyond the argument that both are collectivist Statist ideologies. That aspect is indeed the same, but thats also where the similarity ends.

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 16:26 | 2401419 tmosley
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Really?  You have never heard from the libertarian community that they are the same?  Never seen a Nolanchart with Hitler and Stalin on it?  Here's a hint, they are in the same corner, not separate ones.

And I am talking about Germany, not the occupied territories.  Nazism didn't have time to be fully implemented in conquered lands, and it was war time.  Within Germany, non-Jewish businesses were most certainly seized: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_for_the_Restoration_of_the_Professional...

Read that article, and tell me that the numerous practices that were owned by non-Aryans weren't subject to being seized and handed over to party members.  If the non-Aryan owner of a law firm was forced to step down, and ownershit was transferred to the highest ranked Nazi/Aryan in the firm, that is expropriation, and is exactly what I am talking about.  For modern examples of how this works, look to Mugabe's Zimbabwe.  Total collapse.

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 16:29 | 2401433 greyghost
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lednbrass...where is the dimes worth of difference? do i care if the dime buys the communist bullet or would i care if the dime buys the nazi bullet before it enters my head???? do i care if my cow is taken for the collective state of communism or if the nazi party leadership wants me to use my cow for beef when i want to use my cow for milk? but party chief, i don't want to kill my cow for steaks, party chief explains that the country needs beef not milk....as he cocks and set his german lugar on the desk? who owns "my" cow????? state ordered controls are state ordered controls. I WOULDN"T GIVE A "DIME" FOR EITHER ONE!

in all your words there is not one mention of freedom....only degrees of control.

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