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First Prints Are In: Risk On, Gold Off... At Least For A Few Minutes
The first prints are in and the relief kneejerk is here, as much expected. ES prints +17 at 1306, USDJPY jumps, although the fade is already there, while the Franc is dripping lower although we expect the same fade to come to it soon. Obviously gold is off, by just about 1% to levels last seen... five days ago. We wonder how long until the vacuum tubes realize that with the debt ceiling raise, Obama has just given Bernanke the green light to monetize up to $2.8 trillion in brand spanking new pieces of one-ply US debt. In other news, a Reuters blast just announced that a Senate vote on a debt deal is "highly unlikely" before Monday, confirming that the market will now have to price in what is effectively becoming TARP 2, with the same potential dire consequences to the market if it is wrong as it was last time around. Overall, we expect the computers to create their self-referential momentum buying sprees until such time as the big boys come in and start offloading the big blocks.
Gold:
USDJPY - retraced entire post kneejerk euphoria.
USDCHF:
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So bailout deals / statist kool aid sponsored debt expansion announcements have half lives of just 10 minutes now? Quantum Mechanic financial system bitchez!
Van Hollen just said neither side is ready to 'pull the trigger' on the debt deal.
Could wake up to limit down tomorrow, who knows. Weak hands will flee gold, that is to be expected and "transitory".
Hey. Brother,
Did you know 'All about the Benjamins Bernanke' was reappointed and appointed by oba MABUS h?
NOSTRADAMUS WANTS ME
to remind u
Godspeed
The trajectory of the complete and total economic collapse of the USA shall not be abridged by spending cuts, thank God.
The rights of the international banking cartel and multinational corporations shall not be abridged, they are our rulers.
Thank God the complete and total economic collapse of the USA is staying right on course.
The end game of all this will eventually starve the beast with the greatest economic catastrophe in the history of the planet according to my very well thought out plan.
It'a a good plan, so don't fuck it up.
That sounds about right. Got nothing to add or take away.
fade the gap
That's what she said.
lol
I still believe in moments of panic and chaos
and deflation
all categories will deflate
so we'd see a poof in everything for a bit
then some things would sky rocket
as others died
powder says wait, right right?
go long
friends, family, food, gold,bullets, silver, toilet paper, beer and alcohol, chocolate
Agreed, but would add coffee as well.
milk and honey
front running happening in real time
Just a couple months ago there was much lamenting that the end of QE2 would cause the stock market to go straight down. QE2, at least the part we see, ended and stocks actually went up. Every momo stock hit a new 52 week high in the past 2 weeks.
Now we are expected to believe that a new debt target will lead to the stock market shooting straight up. Who believes that? It seems that the market loves to go against the expectations that are so strongly agreed upon by shills and sheep.
I don't know if I would make a big bet on it but I am guessing that the stock market will be lower a month from now. If I had to make a guess I would say about 5% lower by Labor Day. There is just too much belief in imminent rally against the backdrop of a crumbling GDP.
Thank you Brave Teleprompter for saving the Market by selling out your party and core ideals. Oh, sorry, you haven't got any except making that re-election.
"Core ideals?" And what pray tell could this man's core ideals be, other than a thirst for power and money?
Seems like a whole lot of folk are fooled by skin color. LOL, a certain % of the populace are die-hard Obama voters for one reason only and it is just enough for him to do anything to them and us and they will overlook it for only that one cosmetic thing that binds them.
YOUR RAYCISS
Not good, not much of a dollar bump.
Physical Gold or silver is not moving, I think people are trapped inside the spread and risk losing money on these falling values.
Maybe they realize printing isn't the answer or that Ben can't print fast enough this time?
Falling values?
Gold dropped 1% after making new record highs... and it's already gaining that back. People need to stop making statements about the volitility of PMs based on the ticker.
Nothing against you personally, Seagull- just tired of people acting smug when the gain on my silver drops all the way from 30% to 28%, while their 401(k) accounts have gained 1% in the same time frame.
I am sorry, I am not smug. I took some hits in silver while learning to trade last week.
I moved it all into Gold Bullion and waited over the weekend. Now I see if I can at least sell for a little bit of profit and get started.
Every little dip on the ticker is probably for the ones who trade paper.
My mindset was that this Nation gets downgraded or even default and there will be a rush into PM's
Why are you "trading" silver? What the hell do you think LULU, PCLN, NFLX, CMG are for?
Fuck that paper crap.
I move physical because they are very heavy and are nice to lift.
Sometimes a whale moves into the arena selling or buying 1000 coin of ASE. Fucking makes me excited where there is profit to be made.
One day I will be one of those whales.
actually westvillage many of us are expecting to be "trading" silver shortly...for food, shelter, clothing, tools....
Silver is a cruel mistress, but she sure is sexy.
If you stay clear of the paper trades, and avoid leverage, you'll do fine with either Au or Ag. The whole trick is just buy what you can afford, and stack it up with all the previous purchases. I bought all the way up to the $49 peak, and after the correction, and I'm still up handsomely.
Just don't let the SOB's shake you out, or they'll take your head off at the neck. Considering what is at stake (PM V. Fiat) it's a game that is almost required to be dangerous. Someone has to be left holding the bag, and I'm pretty sure they'd prefer it to be you or I.
I don't know that I'd sell the gold if I were you- my strategy has been to liquidate other assets as much as possible and move them to physical PMs. Can't afford much gold at these prices, and it's kind of hard to get right now locally, so silver's my metal of choice. Gold's a damn near perfect trade, though, and if I was in a different position, I think I'd choose it over the white metals.
Synchronic, moronic, I need a Tonic.
It's all chthonic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdTGEWFqd6M
Wasn't Little Timmy waiting until there was a debt deal before resigning?
That should be bullish for the market. Or at least mankind.
What makes you think Timmy's replacement would be any better?
The same people that picked Timmy will pick Timmy's replacement.
Timmah? Somebody told me he left the NY Fed a while ago and that we haven't had a SecTreas since Paulson resigned.
Have I misunderstood something?
This is transitory until the next crisis unfolds after the next Crisis Implication Team creates it.
I just don't understand why we (Such a small handful of people on ZH and other small sites as opposed to the US populus) get it? These elected representitives are supposed to be the top of the top. Harvard, Berkeley, etc. Many attorneys, PHD's, Degrees in Economics. They understand the game 100%, but yet they are the most corrupt pieces of shit in the world. These people play the regular American public like a fiddle. Scare the sheep, then herd them where they want them to go. These people making the decisions already are rich.....is this just a power play to get a little boner since they can't get it up any other way? My friends and family look at me like I am out of my mind when I start talking about anything that guides them away from the MSM, and when you start to talk economics....100% glazed eyes. Sorry to ramble....just venting, here is the real question. When does the train fall off the tracks? Do we just continue at this snails pace printing and printing and going deeper into debt....for years and years and that is just the way it is? Or does it collpase fast and hard in 24 hours like this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2N8gJSMoOJc
Well, they don't call the "Japan is going to collapse any day now" trade "The Widowmaker" for nothing. Clear differences, obviously, but still our closest comp.
No, I had discussions here in ZH with people who really thought a deal would not be reached.
This "sudden collapse" meme is a Hollywood cash cow, nothing else.
1 or 2 years with 20% inflation before anything else can happen.
Perhaps relative to the US populus but ZH is a GIANT among financical sites and King of financial blogs.
People generally don't get it because most cannot do math beyond a 6th grade level. If you don't have a firm grasp of mathematics, almost to the point of being able to use it like a second language, economics is nearly impossible to grasp or understand.
Given that set of circumstances, and the fact that people tend to stare at you like an alien when you bring the subject up, is it any wonder that most of the people involved start to get swollen heads and decide to just take as much as they can? After all, they're re-enforced that they are doing the right thing by getting paid for it, and discouraged from educating others by recieving blank stares when they try. Could happen to anyone here, and probably already has for many. It works the same way in engineering, though in that case, there's not a huge pile of money to be harvested from the situation.
As to the second question, I have no idea. Just keep prepping and stacking, because you know it's coming as sure as the sun will rise in the East tomorrow. Might be tomorrow or ten years from now, but there's no avoiding the collapse.
Appreciate your insight. What a web we weave. Appreciate everyone on this site. I tried a test on my facebook. I am 45 years old, and all of my friends on Facebook are relatively the same age (780 friends)....I posted several links to great economic insight videos like this one....Peter Schiff was Right...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0YTY5TWtmU
.
Then I posted Ron Pauls new TV ad...
http://www.youtube.com/user/ronpaul?v=UUNIeOB0whI&feature=pyv
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Then I posted "Wake Up Pranks" Video..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1bPWHQkD4E
.
Well...the comments came in (3 days later)
Peter Schiff 0
Ron Paul Ad 2 1 liked him and another said "Kook".
Wake Up Pranks 38
,
So there you have it. Head in the sand.
There are a lot of inverted logic equations in economic matters (Bond prices go DOWN when bond yields go UP, etc). Most of the Ignorati can't even handle logic when it's straightforward!
takeaction: I'm with you there, but may I add that many of our elected reps are NOT the top of the top; just 2-bit puppets with the right friends like Obama himself, Harvard notwithstanding. They go to DC to take care of the guys who bank rolled them pure and simple, the country be damned. The folks asleep at the wheel right now will wake up when the car crashes. And the train IS off the tracks! The main stream media has been forced to pick up Tyler's thread at last; how GRATIFYING to watch them squirm addressing the train wreck all day today! How fast this ends is anybody's guess, but something tells me the MARKETS will definitely finish what Nixon and the banksters started and most likely sooner rather than later. And we're not that small a handful......Congress is glued to ZH all day....probably why they can't get anything accomplished.
The programming of the matrix is thick and effective. Data which conflicts with someone's construct of reality will usually short circut certain neurons and their brain seems to simply block the incoming data, lest it shut down their ability to deal with the situation. Some people can deal with bad news better than others. Some people take it constructively and act, and others (when forced to deal) simply go haywire and start running in circles like their hair is on fire.
I've been trying to relay the seriousness of the situation of the situation for 2 years now with my wife's family, but cannot make any headway. They just dismiss me as a conspiracy theorist and that I simply cannot know that much about economics since I am a 32 year old graphic designer.
I've known the system would collapse since 2009 when I married my wife. I was standing at the alter on a beautiful beach knowing what was coming. It was even in my mind as I stood at the alter..."I'm living in a country that is about to enter hyperinflation at some point and collapse." These types of thoughts will do a serious number on your psyche when you've been living a relatively prosperous life free of hardship for so many years. However, I understood the reality of the situation, I didn't go into denial about it, and I took steps to protect myself, and even prosper financially.
A few evenings ago, the whole debt ceiling drama was on CNN, and I came into the room as my wife's family was gathered around the TV. I saw it as a perfect opportunity to illustrate that what I have been warning about is actually starting to take place. I took the opportunity to speak to them for about 30 minutes about inflation, gold + silver, the MSM, fractional reserve, the exponential debt/credit system, etc, ad nauseum. You guys know the routine. At the very least I wanted them to begin with a little gold protection.
During the course of the conversation they were nodding in agreement with me. At some point the CNN broadcast ended, and it was time for Grandma to watch Wheel of Fortune. This offered a chance for the family to escape, and everyone just went off in their own direction to continue on with whatever business they normally carry on with (complaining about the dogs barking too much, arguing who's diet is working better, conversing about the best style of maternity jeans, on and on).
Nothing I had said has registered or gotten past their shields-up status whatesoever. It was like trying to speak to a concrete slab. The data goes in, but doesn't register at all.
Sadly, this is how the larger percentage of the populace operates. What it comes down to is frequencies....people who operate on higher frequencies are able to assimilate and disseminate data that is valuable to their continued forward-looking existence. People who operate on lower frequencies do not have this ability at all. People in the middle may have some semblance of the ability, but choose to go into denial mode. The data is threatening to their reality and thus they would rather shut it out and enjoy the moment and deal with the crisis when it comes. Unfortunately these people will be unprepared when the time comes and suffer greatly. Such is life.
All you can do is hold fast to your understanding of the situation and methods to protect yourself, and just know deep down that you did your best to wake up those around you.
Life is about learning lessons, and many lessons will be learned in the next decade.
Print this out and leave it where it can be found and read:
After the Great Implosion, the following bad things are certain to happen:
1. The Stock Market(s) will drop to whatever level is necessary to halt
trading (for days on end).
2. The prices for ALL commodities will double in less than a week.
3. Bond prices will also sink like a stone, while bond interest rates
will try to go over 10%.
4. The prices per Toz of Gold and Silver will join commodities in heading
to the stratosphere!
5. Before a month has passed, riots in ALL major cities will break out as
soon as food runs out in ALL the supermarkets and cannot be found.
6. Gun stores will be broken into and will be picked clean or they will sell
out their stock.
7. Gasoline and Diesel supplies will dry up in less than one month.
8. In less than one month, EVERY bank will have all available cash withdrawn.
9. After the number of rioting cities passes around a dozen, martial law
will be declared, perhaps at the national level.
10. During the second month, ALL Govt employees will find that no one will
cash their payroll checks, or direct deposit is no longer being performed.
11. All airline flights will be grounded, there won't be any fuel for them
anyway.
12. Govt/Financial officials will engage in finger-pointing and scapegoating.
(But no one important will even be accused, let alone go to jail!)
13. The Govt will begin rounding up starving citizens and taking them to
internment camps before 3 months have passed.
14. Other World Govts will refuse to use the now-worthless FRN for trading.
15. At some point, FRNs will no longer be accepted in trade in the USA.
16. A large-scale so-called "terrorist" event might be initiated, justifying
starting another war somewhere.
17. Some very prominent people will die under mysterious circumstances.
Once a few of these events occur, you WILL BE a Prophet in your own land!
Sorry, don't agree. You are mixing a Deflation disaster with a Hyperinflation disaster, and shaking it with a pinch of Fascist Takeover.
This is a Hollywood script. It's your subconscious wishing for "An End, fast".
Indeed, the people operating on these lower frequencies are forever confined to being plebs. Your family-in-law no exception. The super higher frequency class will always always take advantage of this. You clearly have understood this by now .. question is are you capable of taking advantage (for the greater good, no less) of those lesser than you?
In case you've been waiting for the shorting entry opportunity of a lifetime...
"let me be clear..." ON EQUITIES, not PMs.
I would be careful on that one. How many shorts the past two and a half years have been skinned alive? Just when you think you have it figured out some jerk comes out with some ridiculous announcement and the next thing you know you are eating ramen and drinking Sam's Club cola for your Christmas dinner.
Yabut, perspective maintained despite any celebratory up-gap:
https://sites.google.com/site/dailyspyder/
The first installment of the debt ceiling increase ($500B), will match the Tbill maturity wall in August (as per zerohedge prior article), and will not even be enough to repay the stolen federal pension funds. No QE3 here, at all. This will be less than the beast needs for four weeks. The other increases will be conditional, and probably enough to merely keep the beast going. The cuts will settle in. It doesn't look to me, that any stimulus/TARP is coming any time soon. If there is any TARP2 in books, the pitchforks will march on DC.
As mentioned last week, this S&P500 aka /ES futures is (was) a very steep downchannel, went long Thursday, went longer Friday.
See my "Reluctant Long" post here
http://oahutrading.blogspot.com/2011/07/reluctant-long-keep-it-simple-at...
Nice start anyway. Euro is not following up yet.
US Debt "straw man" solution only confirms more printing to come. That means fundamentally, USD down, Euro up. However, the winds can quickly blow against the Euro, based on the fact they are living on a series of fault lines and holding hands.
http://oahutrading.blogspot.com/2011/07/new-moon-long-es-from-thursday-p...
Oh my. Me ankles are shaking over the gold drop. Thanks Bernanke, we don't fear tradition. Please knock it down further so we can buy more. $700 will be a nice dip. Bring it on baldheaded fuck..
still doesn't feel like 71's nifty fifty to me. I agree small caps do best in an inflation. Still-tech and nat gas have no pricing power nor have they for sometime. I say slow and steady wins this race.
What's that you say about small caps? Well take a looky here:
https://sites.google.com/site/dailyspyder/
Harvard and Berkley are the problem.
To quote Will Rogers:
'If stupidity got us into this mess, why can't stupidity get us out of it?'
double-click
1. Raise the debt ceiling and kick the can down the road...
2. Print more money and devalue the currency...
3. Manufacture a rally in the stock market...
100% FUBAR!
I'm reading "Dying of Money" on my other monitor, and Chapter 19, "Real Values" makes a good case for 2 and 3 above being the same thing.
Well worth the read, so far.
Prom,
The further you get into the "Dying of Money", the more it goes off the rails. Parsson is a huge fan of Milton Friedman, and is no fan of gold. Even in chapter 42 - "Self-Defence", he devotes merely one paragraph to gold:
Gold, the international money, was a special case. Throughout the eons of the world, gold had been the classic refuge of owners of property trying to defend it from economic slings and arrows. But, like everything else in an inflation, gold was overvalued. It was overvalued even before the inflation began. Gold yields no income and costs money to store and handle. It is not very useful. If the American Federal Reserve System should no longer accept gold as international money and people in general should turn against gold for that purpose, its intrinsic value for industrial and commercial purposes could not have been more than a small fraction of its prevailing price. Most of the value of gold lay in that people expected it to have value, and that value could last only as long as the expectation. That expectation had endured over thousands of years, and it might endure forever. Or it might not. It was anybody’s gamble.
This is Parsson's only comment on gold. However, his view on the monetary aspects of the inflation are excellent, and there is more than a simple common thread between Weimar, 1973 and today. Of course, with the wisdom of hindsight, Volker's interest rates assault (which post-dated Parsson's book) could only be achieved when the USA was the world's largest creditor nation. Now?
The comparisons are startling, and for that alone it is a good read.
What's Ambrose rambling about tonight?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/ambroseevans_pritchard/867357...
Wouldn't this be inflationary? Are these repatriated US$$ from Euro world?
Can somebody please explain?
Dear old Ambrose has clearly been sampling the sherry too extensively this afternoon before sitting down to write this drivel.
Either that or he's been instructed to write something positive (Or else) and this is the best he could come up with.
Sherry? Hmmm... Nevertheless, leaving Ambrose's interpretation aside, where's this jump in M2 / M3 coming from?
He's crazy - housing is in the toilet. He should get out more.
"We wonder how long until the vacuum tubes realize that with the debt ceiling raise, Obama has just given Bernanke the green light to monetize up to $2.8 trillion in brand spanking new pieces of one-ply US debt."
Fawtunately, ah keep mah single ply numbered for jest sech an emugency ;-)
+1 for Foghorn Leghorn (feather) reference.
One should wish to be overcome with revulsion every day for as long as one lives.
Because when this charade ends, the real crying starts.
Or one should wish for the putrid, stinking bandaid to be ripped off.
Because it is the right thing to do, the thing that will give us a bare chance of doing something better with our lives rather than living a ponzi lie with the very worst among us riding herd.
Most revolutions don't end well, (and it will take a revolution with the lockhold that the Banksters have on us). We will most likely jump from the frying pan into the fire, from the Czar's almost benign gulags to the killing fields of Cambodia.
When 9/11 happened, I knew we had a corrupt and fraudulent government. I have never stopped buying Gold and Silver since then.
Enjoy history.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1PqIgyJHSw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ccj10xIPkmw&feature=related
Lots of good that will do you when the government confiscates it.
They gotta find it while dodging lead, first.
Can you say "outnumbered and outgunned"?
Sure, I *can* say that- but I won't.
The one and only reason I am holding PMs is to ensure as best I can the survival of my family. Were it not for that concern, I'd go sell off down at the coin shop tomorrow after work and do something more enjoyable with the money.
So, with that concern as the underlying reason for holding the metal, I'm sure that you can appreciate the fact that I would consider bending to confiscation equal to suicide by cop, with the only difference being slow death by starvation or quick death in a hail of bullets. The latter would be far preferable to me, and might help others wake up- though by then I suspect that it would be far too late by that time.
At any rate, I suspect it's a moot point. I'm a pretty miniscule target in the great scheme of things, and I might just die of shock if anyone actually ever knocked on the door looking for my relatively tiny stash of old silver coins- especially since most of them have numismatic, and not simply intrinsic value. Might be a different story if I had a few monster boxes of ASEs instead of a bunch of nicely toned Morgans and Peace dollars. Pretty hard to justify a raid on a nerdy coin collector.
midnight gardening
Deep sea fishing, snorkeling rivers & lakes, hiking...I'm really a nature lover ya know ;-)
Good luck.
.
Good on ya. You got in cheap in 2001.
ES 1300...
This rally will fade faster than the post Osama killing. At least then they could convince some college kids to drink free beer on the white house lawn
T-10 minutes until Robot posts `gold is going to $250'
Hmmm. The banksters were 100% sure that a compromise would be reached by now. I'm sure that Blythe had her army with loaded short bullets the minute Asia opened. Sure enough the avalanche came. One problem, though: THERE IS NO PHUKKIN AGREEMENT. And guess what? There may not be for a few days. Horrors: all that wasted ammunition.
Stupid Question: I have looked everywhere I can think of. I cannot find a definition for the acronym ES other than "Expected shortfall" which does not make sense in context. Please, someone, what does ES stand for? Thanks,
sunny
it's the CME Group's symbol for the S&P 500 futures contract
Thank you.
sunny
np
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-mini_S%26P
I beg to differ. "expected shortfall" makes perfect sense to this audience.
option premiums the size of roseanne bar at her prime at the close Friday tells me the herd is short or hedged market neutral. will hedge funds risk losing further ground against the s&P benchmark. i doubt it.
eerie stillness in the ES no? And now...Pablo Neruda
I like for you to be still
It is as though you are absent
And you hear me from far away
And my voice does not touch you
It seems as though your eyes had flown away
And it seems that a kiss had sealed your mouth
As all things are filled with my soul
You emerge from the things
Filled with my soul
You are like my soul
A butterfly of dream
And you are like the word: Melancholy
I like for you to be still
And you seem far away
It sounds as though you are lamenting
A butterfly cooing like a dove
And you hear me from far away
And my voice does not reach you
Let me come to be still in your silence
And let me talk to you with your silence
That is bright as a lamp
Simple, as a ring
You are like the night
With its stillness and constellations
Your silence is that of a star
As remote and candid
I like for you to be still
It is as though you are absent
Distant and full of sorrow
So you would've died
One word then, One smile is enough
And I'm happy;
Happy that it's not true
.
Anytime government is free to spend it's bullish for gold.
Just watched NBC doing a story about the debate and the Tea Party, saying the TP is holding things up on principle, not caring if they get re-elected, and were not listening to the lobby groups, etc., and I thought maybe, is NBC was doing a story on political integrity and how we needed more of that in D.C.? Nope.
Of course not! They were painting the TP as the problem children for not going along with the status quo. Flashback: NBC and Brian Williams cheerleaded all the spending and record deficits for the last 3 years.
+1 I was having a discussion with someone earlier who was predicting a PM whipe out this week. I said to him, "What has changed which will improve the strength of the dollar?" and, "Does raising the limit with only the vague promise of possible future cuts build or harm the value of a dollar."
yeah...
then why the hell do all of you people continue to try to swim against the current?
It is all beyond absurd. What an embarrassment this nation has become. How the hell are we ever going to pay back 16+ Trillion dollars. Will never happen. And gold dumps all of...
$11.00. Oh my God, I better sell it all. If miners take another dump Monday, my little truck going to be way heavy by the end of the trading day with more miner.s
...is 2.8 trillion a lot? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGlZwwtp92A
Bought it. Show me another and I'll buy that too.
At this point I think silver being +- 2% is just white noise.
I don't even update my spreadsheet anymore unless it goes more than a dollar in either direction.
I miss the old posting setup - this is too confusing. Sorry.
Yes, looks like gold is doomed....might tumble back to $1,626....lol
Two things you can be 100% certain:
1. Bank CEOs will grab another record high year of Bonus Money;
and
2. gold will rise in reflection of the massive money supply expansion and printing to pay these Bonuses.
oops.
I take issue (as the economic system implodes in spectacular fashion) with a continuing ah, negative bias with respect to vacuum tubes in the original article.
As a matter of fact, in general they are quite rugged when used within their rated limits and are generally regarded as superior to transistors and integrated circuits for high fidelity music systems and music amplifiers.
That is all. Back to your regularly scheduled Kabuki Theatre.
Tyler
I love ya man.Sometimes your articles just make me laugh quite loudly.
Thanks and cheers to ya
Also see Silver needs to close a gap to the upside. A great day for a trade or two.
A $10 dip in gold? Is that it? Is that all we're going to get? Where's the big dip everyone was waiting for?
They need a bit more media drama Hobbleknee
Is that possible? The only thing missing was a heart attack on the house floor.
I want some major dippage now!
LOL
Shortest gold correction ever.
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