First Results Are In - Live Tracker Of Florida GOP Primary
The first numbers in the Florida GOP Primary have started trickling in with the polls still open, and while as already noted DieBold did 'leak' the final results of the election previously, those who either care what the outcome of tonight's event is, or are masochists, or both, are welcome to follow the latest developments below.
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A lot of old farts will vote for Romney because he promised them a moterize wheelchair.
Romunists ...
Romulans win. And Newt is a Klingon half-breed but so what.
I thought Newt was a Tribble.
And you know the troubles with Tribbles....
Ha. I think Newt ate ALL of the Tribbles. Hacked up a beaut of a fur ball too.
I voted for Ron Paul. Yes, it as a wasted vote, but it was the only enlightened choice.
I don't understand the concept of the "wasted vote." It's not a lottery where you get a prize for picking the winner. You're just supposed to say who you want in office.
It was a wasted vote in a sense because Florida is a winner-take-all state and Paul skipped campaigning in Florida. Paul was never going to win Florida because he wants to close the borders and the Hispanic vote is very strong in Florida, so he was wise to not waste his campaign money in Florida's disparate TV markets.
It's also a closed Primary so you can't vote if you aren't registered Republican, thus the Independent vote is missing entirely. The big margin for Romney is terrifying though...
All I know is RP got crushed. Candidacy over, just like I said after the catastrophe in Iowa
Who is your choice in this by the way? Let me guess.
None of the above.
It's hopeless. The last one out turn off the lights please. We get it ok.
This Pavlovian response to RP is annoying.
Why don't you just pull out your lighter and burn the whole world down already. Get it over with for fuck sakes.
Before you begin, you do realize that pointless ad hominems only hurt your cause.
That lesson alone seems to be really lost to the vast bulk of people.
All I know is... anyone who votes is a dumb-ass because they are obviously too fucking stupid to realize the vote is rigged. I pray the Chinese will someday use Americans as meat products. At least then some use will come of them.
why eat stinky Americans when you can use them as consumer slaves to transfer wealth power to the Central Kingdom?
It is a sign of a sad, lonely, pathetic, miserable and twisted mind to seek negative attention, instigate pointless arguments and willfully antagonize others to no constructive purpose, particularly to the extent to which Bob Moriarty, er, "Trav" has done all three in this forum. And that's not even bringing up his gross and consistent dishonesty (e.g., his repeated claims that I was "pumping" silver here last year, when I have NEVER, even tangentially, done any such thing; or his lies that tmosley was screaming "BUY BUY BUY" during silver's price runup early last year, when he was merely cautioning silver holders to stand pat on their positions; or his absurd assertions, with no basis in fact, that ANYBODY who held silver at the end of last year was automatically a "bagholder" who had essentially lost their ENTIRE savings in silver merely due to its end of the year, and temporary, price decline --- and, illogically, regardless of when or at what price they had purchased it in the first place.)
I've noticed his mind for more time than I wished. Full of chasms. A nihilist with a white cane.
Great comment akak. This sentence is particularily true:
It is a sign of a sad, lonely, pathetic, miserable and twisted mind to seek negative attention, instigate pointless arguments and willfully antagonize others to no constructive purpose, particularly to the extent to which Bob Moriarty, er, "Trav" has done all three in this forum.
I don't think trav is Bob Moriarty, and I don't really care. But your comment begs the questions: what does trav actually believe in? What makes him get out of bed in the morning? When was the last time he cried? Has he ever been in love?
These questions may be not serious enough for some of you, but I'd rather ruminate on them than think about Florida voters making their "choice". LOL.
Vic, your questions above are not unserious or irrelevant in any way at all --- quite the contrary, in fact, and I appreciate them.
I know that there have been times when I have been in heated debates or arguments online, both here and elsewhere, after which I have reread my comments and thought to myself "Boy, this might really give readers the impression that I am just an angry and hostile guy", which is not much the case at all. And I will be the first to admit that I am no saint, and have sunk into outright dickishness on occasion here. On the other hand, I like to think that I have likewise shared some very serious, gentle, heartfelt thoughts with others here as well. But with Trav and certain others, I get nothing but bitterness, rage and unfocused hostility, which I find sad and, in the truest sense of the word, pathetic (i.e., invoking pathos).
I've got no great desire to delve into the personal or private lives of others in this forum, or in any other, but I cannot help but pity somebody whose posts seem so consistently motivated by animosity, antagonism and spite, while never demonstrating any sense of kindness, compassion, reflection, spirituality or fellowship. Trav is a wounded soul, no doubt, and although it can be sometimes hard to feel much sympathy for such people while being metaphorically (and unjustly) flogged by them, we would probably all do well to keep in mind that some lash out at others more in pain than in malevolence.
Tnx for the reply.
a) Do you ever have a perverse fascination with people? I do when it comes to Eric Cartman, Dominic Chu and trav7777. I would adopt any of them if it were possible.
b) Keep commenting here akak. ZH needs legit voices like yours.
Best regards,
Vic
The "status quo", "safety-blanked" voters are doing that just nicely enough already. Bunch of fucking pussies don't have the BALLS.. to vote for Ron Paul.
...just like I said after the catastrophe in Iowa
it is catastrophe, but for US...
o-bomb/hitlary 2012
The old people are determined to have all their savings, pensions, investments, and social security made worthless. Some might say this is all poetic justice.
#Romney <3 Diebold
Moving on to Plan B; Complete and total economic collapse of the USA and the world. That should solve most of our problems for us.
Will Ron Paul be elected into the White House in 2012? The answer is no.
Even if Ron Paul will get the votes necessary to win, two things will happen:
· Either the election results will be fraudulently changed or
· Pon Paul will be assassinated
Ron Paul is a storm petrel. He is an omen to the ruling world banking oligarchy and their mercenaries that, after almost 200 years of their criminal world domination, their empire is coming to the end.
A vote for Ron Paul is a strong message that the real change is about to take place.
Americans can be damn proud that something like the RP movement even exists. There is none such in Germany, and most probably not in entire Europe. Of course there are a few public voices of sanity here, too. But it is nothing compared to RP and his followers. I know, the RP crowd is actually too small for real political impact... but you have a name, an organisation etc. We do not. When you talk about the monetary system in Germany NOBODY listens. In the US, obviously at least a few listen... Be proud that you brought RP up as far as you did.
Britain does have Nigel Farage, and though he is no Ron Paul, he most certainly stands out from the crowd of faceless globalists in Europe, many of whom can't put two coherent thoughts together in an interesting way when they speak.
No, no, no! We must support Dr. Paul at every opportunity to try and force the Lame Stream Media to acknowledge him as a real contender. Vote early. Vote often.
Ron Paul 2012
P.S. Bernanke is a Ferengi
That was a savvy move on the part of the Paul campaign but it still doesn't mean that Paul voters wasted their votes. If anything, it's the person who voted for a candidate he doesn't like because he didn't think that the candidate he did like would win who has wasted his vote.
I'm definitely wasting my vote in November writing in Ron Paul or voting for Obama just to spite the MSM choice.
The Ron Paul Girl in this video explains it all;
Ron Paul backer: "You would never hear of a 'former' Ron Paul supporter" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wptqeup5EBwHot, smart and eloquent. Thanks for sharing.
They mention the support of Ron Paul by the less than 30 crowd. It seems like a lot of the current older generations want to keep getting their dole outs by borrowing from our generation and the unborn.
There needs to be a revisit clause on laws. Although the concept of finding wisdom from a mass of people is questionable to begin with, it must be recognized that we didn't vote for the loser congressmen/presidents that allowed the Federal Reserve, started Social Security or Medicare, or got the government involved in marriage and made pot illegal. Thanks a lot older generations having the living standard of two or three lifetimes and passing us the bill!
Not the deficit spending is ever really "right," does anyone else get the feeling that rapidly growing new nations can greatly benefit from borrowing, but old nations, not so much? There is a time and place for everything.
I'm with you Sam Clemons. The metastasizing of the federal government in size, spending and borrowing over the last 70 years is completely unsustainable. It is the biggest bubble of them all. It is the silent deadly heart of all the Boomer Swarm bubbles we have witnessed wreaking havoc across the globe, from equities to real estate to education to health care to welfare to warfare. No Bridge too far, no project too extravagant that it could not be enacted today and force-financed onto the future.
The Silent & Baby Boom generations really believe in "Salvation through Federal Intervention." It is their State Religion. I suppose it is their rebellion against the milquetoast Protestantism of their parents.
Ours is not to reason why they do it, because deficit spending is their modus operandi, and they will continue racking up the national credit card until they bankrupt this country entirely or enslave future generations to international bankers forever. For example, Boomers George Bush & Barack Obama are putting two of the longest-lasting, most expensive wars ever ON CREDIT. They see nothing wrong with this. It's the Entitlement Generation Mentality. "But I was against Banker Bailouts, or the War on Terror," some Boomers will say. But they would be Pro-Entitlement Deficits when it came to medicare schedule D, Cash for Bastards, or any other litany of federal future-debt-enslavement efforts. It is rare ineed to find a Boomer who doesn't insist on some Stealing from the Children to sustain their lifestyles..
It's time to take grandma's car keys away. Young people must vote Ron Paul, as he is the only candidate proposing limiting & rolling back spending, borrowing, and entitlements.
When that doesn't work, I propose our generation migrate to States' Rights, hard currency and a hard 10th Amendment. Some States will fail. Some will prosper. I admire your effort to enact some Escape Clause into federal law, but I find it hard to imagine such an effort could be succesful in a Washington completely devoted to Patronage & Peony to the People.
Sincerely Yours,
Kobe Beef
For example, Boomers George Bush & Barack Obama are putting two of the longest-lasting, most expensive wars ever ON CREDIT.
Er...Obama moved the funding of the wars in Iraq and Afghanist on-budget. That's a major part of why the "budget deficit" became completely insane the moment as he took office. (The other major expense is Medicare D which was still going into effect as late as '06.)
Dubya was financing them through supplemental spending bills.
I suppose you can say some given spending is "on credit" because the government's running a deficit, but then, since 1980, it's ALWAYS BEEN RUNNING a deficit, so I'm not sure that's worth pointing out. One could just as correctly (and misleadingly) say that the wars are being paid for with actual real cash money, and Social Security transfers are all being done on credit.
Minor point, but if you write something as well-reasoned as that, it's worth getting right.
Wouldn't it be great if only the people who really, really, really, really, really wanted Obama voted for him and all he came up with was 2 votes?
that i will vote for romney if he is nominated doesn't make me a former ron paul supporter. it does make me a former obama supporter who does not believe there is any way he deserves reelection. ron paul (or gary johnson ,,,) '12....
The good Doctor pulling in 115484 votes compared to 62887 in 2008. Beating expectations all over the place.
Great stuff CA
All the apparent votes for Paul were hanging chads, and had to be thrown out.
Never mind that they don't use chads any more.
Florida election coverage from Revolution PAC:
http://www.revolutionpac.com/Florida-Primary-Broadcast/
@ Janice
+ 1 NOT a wasted vote!
I voted for Ron Paul as well (bitchez). I am sorely disappointed that it looks like he will only get some 6% - 7% of the vote. The Republicans will need him to win. Romney should be courting Dr. Paul now and getting his ideas and counsel. Will he? I doubt it.
He will or the GOP dies this year.
Newt as a Tea Party guy?...lol...he has a weird sense of humor or is the craven political hack I've always suspected.
Not that those two things are mutually exclusive.
Tea Party = NeoCon Takeover Commission
According to CNN or Fox News, most of the Tea Party vote went to Newt. Do you think it was MSM lies?
The Tea Party was hijacked by Neo-Cons.
Ron Paul's best demographic is the 29 and under vote. only 5% of today's voters in Florida were 29 and under! And, yes, independents couldn't vote either!
Hopefully he's not a Gremlin. Eating all those Tribbles after midnight, and a little water, there'd be big-headed Neo-Con warmongers all over in no time....
Shit, guess it already happened. Time to bust out the bright lights....
Tribbles or Gremlins won't attack Iran. Romulans will.
No, it will be the Neoklingons, who are actually just targs in tribbles' clothing.
Romney is a RINO. A vote for romney is a vote for a new Obama, A vote for Obama is a vote for bush
Obama is being fired by Soro’s because he is a fuck up. Romney will kick the fascist machine into high gear and start incarcerating the masses, and he will go to war for Israel. The Zionist win, the people lose.
All America has become is a slave to Israel and the Zionist. Just remember when these yids get in power they love to kill white people. Remember the Holodomor.
Not to mention that whole blood libel thing...
A vote for either Newt or Mitt is a vote to maintain the Social Security money flow. A vote for Paul, scares the living shit out of the folk who voted themselves a pension till death.
Give me some sugar, daddy.
What's funny is that all these old fools won't get a damn cent or they will be destroyed by inflation.
I won't even mention what their kids are gonna go throught.
Fools shall be fools and they shall bring us all down with them.
The old farts could care less about their children or inflation. All they want is another paycheck and doctor visit before they die. And all you ZHers need to stop blaming the Baby Boom generation, it was the GI and Silent Generation that fucked things up with FDR and Social Security.
In Germany in the 20s the old farts did starve to death.
Unless the world leaders can "all at once" transport us to some new place of economy behavior and understanding, the promises made cannot be kept. Either deflationary default or inflationary default is going to wipe out some generation or another. I wager the baby boomers are in the most precarious place. If only they could get thier head out of thier collective asses.
The baby boomers will suffer the same fate as the Germans in the 1920s.
When Germany collapsed into hyper inflation in 1923 Countess Judith Listowel wrote:
“My relations and friends were too stupid. They didn’t understand what inflation meant. They didn’t rush to get rid of their money (that was what the Jews and Germans did). All my relations thought it would stop the next week – and they went on thinking so.
They woke up late. They started selling their valuables because they couldn’t buy food – the china from the mantelpiece, the furniture, the silver. That made them think – it made them think when the price of a set of old silver spoons went up from 20,000 to 40,000 crowns in a matter of a week or two. And if you had to sell a valuable writing desk for money which was worth only half as much a week later, of course there was ill – feeling.
It was resented when Jews bought these things. The Jewish women would turn up at parties or at the dansants when we were all broke, wearing the silver fox furs – three at a time for ostentation – and diamonds which they bought from our relations for a song – or what, when they saw them again, had become a song. My relations didn’t know the value of anything. They were stupid. Our solicitors were no better. My mother’s banker manager gave her appalling advice – he didn’t know what he was talking about either.
Ukrainian famine victims. Not in American history books.
Anti-Semitism had been negligible before inflation. Although Bela Kun’s revolution had been mainly run by the Jews, the White Terror had largely purged political resentment. The Jews had been badly treated in Hungry since the 1860’s, and were not received socially for many years. Nine out of ten bore grudges (like George Soros today over the destruction of his beloved fascist Germany?), and when the opportunity of impressing the arrogant gentiles arrived at last, who was to blame them for taking it? When they made a success of inflation, they were hated. When they were ostentatious about it, they were hated even more. It may have been stupid of them, and of course the wiser Jews, especially the older ones, were greatly upset, and remonstrated with the younger, because they foresaw the antagonism their behavior would create.”
http://usa-wethepeople.com/2011/04/what-will-the-blow-back-against-the-progressive-jews-like-george-soros-be-like-20-years-from-now/
So why exactly are the Jews again running all the printing presses in the world? Kinda stupid because if they didn't learn from history, they're bound to make the same mistakes. But alas, they always come out on top. Must be that book with fables and myths that put gentiles into submission for centuries.
For every action there is a equal and opposite reaction.
The funny thing is that Ron's budget and economic plans are just about the only thing that can save Social Security and the value of the currency in which benefits are paid.
Yes but Ron was rude enough to suggest that corporations are not people, that imperialism is too expenisve, and that laws apply to everyone. Bastard.
That would be the " Greatest Generation" correct? They who sat idly by whilst our great leaders (cough,cough... Reagan) accelerated our path down the road to "serfdumb".
Re camaro68ss:
A vote for Romney is a vote for Goldman Sachs who happens to manage all his money. Romney will be the "sit in" in the oval office for Goldman.
Sadly, I can find no fault in what you say. For completeness, you need to add Dole and McCain, but solid anyway.
A vote for romney is......
A vote for a politician is a vote for enslavement.
Dont blame me, I voted for Kodos
Well I voted for Kang, my bad.
BRING BUSH BACK!!!!!!!!!!
That would be bad stategery on the part of the GOP.
Only an evildoer would give such advice.
"Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice ... um ... er ... we won't be fooled again."
How about JEB as VP?
http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/01/obama-hosts-george-hw-and-jeb...
They'll appear in droves on voting day.
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Thank you!
Don't laugh. I live in Florida. The old fucks down here fall into the same basic demographic...
1. Don't really give a shit - just want what is promised to them at any cost.
2. Brainwashed into thinking the failure of the American dream is because of the "damn young-uns" without any understanding whatsoever.
3. Still think there is a difference between political parties and continue to flip-flop to whatever turd or douchebag promises them that the "they" matter most.
Reality is that they were fortunate enough to live during the "expansionary phase" of the great industrial-age debt super-cycle. Normalcy bias convinces them that all will be well because it always has worked out before.
So, as expected with more people who are dependent and/or brainwashed than those who are not (ht to CHS), the US will get the leaders it deserves going forward.
There's no sheep like an old sheep.
That demographic has spread to all 57 states...
The results of that exit poll were just down right depressing.
Well over 70% of our registered voting public in Florida are in the hypno-sheeple state.
It wasn't that much different in South Carolina, either.
God help us.
Obama? Romney? Pick your socialist. BLOW ME!
...no no no 96, that's ''monetized'' wheelchairs.
...could be wrong about that too, it might be ''vaporized'' wheelchairs.
Awe, must need a new hearing aid, but my company dropped the coverage when Rosemary's Baby Care Passed.
That is why I don't live in Florida.
Indeed.
Florida voter : i want obama out so im gonna vote for a gop guy who'll do just about the same thing. Now to my soaps and fox news.
Ugh.
First analyst to say it's "over for Paul" buys the drinks.
They forget that if Paul supporters write-in Paul en masse, the Republican nominee loses!
http://azizonomics.com/2011/12/20/why-the-republican-party-needs-ron-paul/
Paul was on the ballot here. I would know.
Felt good to make that selection too.
Yes it did Clay.
Paul intentionally did not strive for FL. Its a waste as its winner take all and was clearly going to R.Money... RP has been in Maine and generating a great position (and their caucuses are already going on). Tactics BITCHEZ!
Thats correct.
And we used to have 100 delegates instead of 50. The GOP imposed a penalty on Floridian republican voters (in essence) for moving up our primary this year.
Fucking carpetbaggers.
But it is what it is...for now.
Ron Paul voter Bearing is going to up-arrow everyone in the above subthread.
Romney would be SMART to listen to Ron Paul and give him a good time to address the Convention. He would be smart to at least try win us Ron Paul voters over.
I am sure it has been mentioned here. But there are historical examples in VPs on american general election tickets that were NOT the sole perrogative of the front runner or the party bosses.
In the earlier debates, they did the sadie hawkins thing for each candidate to pick the VP.
What if Paul has enough delegates to DEMAND the VP spot? And the pubs can faustianly or machivellianly accept it? That would be something new for the people to be talking about, and maybe even give the Romney-Paul ticket a win? I am Ron Paul supporter. so please dont anyone consider this sacrilidge. It might be the best way to get sound money and tax reform starting in 2012.
If people complained, there is ample evidence to refute the front runners perrogative. I mean seriously, look at the recent VP candidates. Buffoons all.
speaking of Palin, her movie-of-the-week is coming out, Julianne Moore looks like she nails it (in b4 comments about nailing Julianne Moore) by the looks of this preview:
http://gothamist.com/2012/01/31/video_game_changes_sarah_palin_is_a.php