Fitch: EFSF And France Joined At The AAA Downgrade Hip

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Ghordius's picture

Still FrAAAnce? 50% chance of downgrade in a year or two only? Ze horror, ze horror!

Ethics Gradient's picture

More like a 50% chance of downgrade on Friday night.

For a very merry Christmas!

Ghordius's picture

really nice handle, by the way, from the Culture novels ship names? Or an interesting statement?

yes, I would not be surprised if Fitch would turn back on the "one or two years" by Friday, it's not as if they have a reputation to lose!

Gunga's picture

 I just need the financial house of cards to hold together for like 3 more weeks. That'll give me time to close out my 401k,IRA etc and roll it into a nice little farm I have picked out.

Iconoclast's picture

Then Mosanto will come knocking...or the farm will be confiscated.. ;-)

Tense INDIAN's picture

fitch ...plz SHUT UP...I have huge LONG position

Dick Darlington's picture

But downgrades, esp if multinotch accompanied with neg outlook, are bullish in the zEuro-la la land.

Socrate's picture

Ah, nous sommes tous foutus. La France sans son tripple AAA c'est comme Paris sans sa Tour Eiffel.

Oh, we are all fscked up. France without its tripple AAA is like Paris without Eiffel tower. </sarc>

distopiandreamboy's picture

That explains why the futures are up

vxpatel's picture

futures are up because we live in such a wonderful society.

Chaffinch's picture

Futures are up because the choco ration has gone up again...

wandstrasse's picture

Isn't Fitch owned by French?

Dick Darlington's picture



Italy Industrial Orders s.a.   (MoM) -1,6%

Italy Industrial Orders n.s.a. (YoY) -4,8%

To sum up, all is well.


wandstrasse's picture

BREAKING! Rating agencies threaten to downgrade Germany because they might lose WW2... Further warn to downgrade the Roman Empire etc etc...

disabledvet's picture

It is not Spain or even Italy in my view but France that represents "ground zero" if this financial weapon of mass destruction goes off. It's hard to leave aside the haughty arrogance in the midst of a generalized systemic collapse of their banks followed by a surge in the polls for the Socialists. France represents both the beginning and the end for the EU...but not necessarily for the euro. Indeed I could forsee a euro area that forces France to go back to a (massively) devalued franc while Germany, Spain and Italy find a way to tough it out with the euro.

MiddleageThinninghair's picture

You know after watching the markets for a number of years and especially the last couple of years it just makes me think humans as a group are a pack of fools and certainly not the evolved beings we like to read about in literature.  Even though the markets are up to me it just continues to errode my sense of belief in governments in general but confirms why they don't pay attention to the public except once every 4 years where we choose one of two preselected candidates.  I'm surprized they had enough self control to kept the market pump to under 3%.  They are probably trying to change the technical charts so as to tell even the dimmest of technicians that it is all clear to buy everything and everyone.
I suppose this is the real reason for today's ramp session in the market?