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Five Days Since The Spanish "Bailout": You Are Here
With few (if any) natural buyers of Spanish debt (especially given the lack of CDS-cash basis now), Spanish bonds continue to crumble lower in price and higher in yield/spread. For the first time ever, 10Y Spanish bond yields have passed 575bps over Bunds - currently trading at 7.15% yield. Since the post-banking-bailout open, Spanish bond spreads have soared a remarkable 114bps and whether this is seen as the fulcrum security or Italian bonds (which are also deteriorating rapidly this morning), it would appear that just as Spiegel reports today from the G-20, via a senior EU official: "If Germany Doesn't Make A Move, Europe Is Dead".
European sovereign bond spread movements post Spanish bailout
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"Bond. James Bond."
This makes complete sense.... Just like somebody thought it was a brilliant idea to "paying for debt by creating more debt!"
Gee this is just like taking 5 braty kids on a long car ride. As soon as you get one from stopping to cry and throwing a fit, then you get the next one throwing a fit... There is no solution, except stoping the car, kicking them all out, and continuing on...
The bond vigilantes are B A C K ! ! !
It is just a matter of time before Germany will be bankrupt like the rest of the Euro zone countries.
May be it is the master plan by the Jewish Bolchevik Banking Mafia who took over the USA and EU.
and why is this a surprise??
"If Germany Doesn't Make A Move, Europe Is Dead".
If Germany doesn't move Europe gets a new face! (fixed it).
"If Germany Doesn't Make A Move, the EUSSR Is Dead - and the people will rejoyce!!!!"
But I fear, they will "make a move", they always have. German politicians are paid to betray the German people. They are NWO puppets and will act accordingly.
ah the deadly dregs of Hitlerian Pangerman dream leave their legacy on Merkel's face, like a spurt of old forgotten perfume, now considered poison ivy. And the American cabal use this nostalgia/germany-first strain as a recurrent wake up call to purge Allemania of all its uber-alles or mere independency penchants.
"We have the technology, we have the base for future revival. But do we have the will? " Good question that Ost politiks could resolve if die westen faszination runs out of steam.
If only Merkel could grow cojones like Maggy did for her own deadly agenda that cured brit decadence but killed brit independence and popular class. But then we would be in another world sooner than the Oligarchy has scheduled it, in their desperate can kicking world of denial.
"If Germany does not make a move Europe is dead". Prediction: Europe is already DEAD.
If Germany makes a move, Germany is dead is more realistic
I think the discussions within Germany revolve around whether to continue pumping money in Europe or preparing for the crisis they themselves. The size of the crisis in Europe is growing every week, and Germany knows that he has unlimited resources. It will be better for them to use their resources in their own economy?
if Germany makes another move, Europe is dead
if Germany makes another move, the German taxpayer is dead.
If Germany does not make a move, the free market can heal itself on its own.
If Germany has a bowel movement, Spain, Italy, and Greece will fall out her ass.
Last time Germany made a move Europe was dead. Damned vampire continent.
Euro can't survive Spain going under. The only question is how long they can keep kicking this can?
Europe is dead already.
+1.2628
But back to your MSM derived hallucination...
Europe is dead already.
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Europe was a still born baby.
From which a Chinese Citizenism citizen probably made a delicious soup (with the addition of an appropriate amount of puppy meat, endangered shark fins, and the nests of certain rare birds). After having consumed said fetus broth, our Borglike Chinese Citizenism citizen most likely promptly shat upon an oppressed Tibetan on a Chinese roadside, in true Chinese Citizenism fashion, before hitting the People's Liberation Opium Parlour and Internet Cafe for a hours-long spree of pro-Chicom time-traveling algebraic coconut denialistic online trolling.
Such is the eternal nature of fetus-slurping, puppy-munching, blobbing-up Chinese Citizenism citizens.
(Sigh!) I think many people have concluded its a false flag operation already.
Italian bonds (which are also deteriorating rapidly this morning)
bring it on!
They make it sound as if Germany exists in another galaxy where prosperity is alive and well and they can just open the checkbook. They are in as deep as anyone, for the last 5 years at least they have been given IOUs for their exports and they are never going to be paid with real money.
True enough, but China does not pay quickly for her imports either. In my field (agricultural chemicals) German manufactures find the Chineese infuriating and confusing to deal with. Their buyers of choice are in the UK and Russia. Lots of German exporters have been busy forging contacts in Russia of late. That is their future market, and in return Germany gets access to energy, and more importantly energy security. Merkel speaks Russian like a native, much closer German / Russian co operation must be a medium term possibility.
I think their last non-aggression pact did not work out so well.
Well that was Molotov/ Ribbentrop.
Today in Germany we have .... Westerwelle!!!!!! Hahahahaha!!!
The Molotov/ Ribbentrop Pact did not work because Stalin wanted the Entire Europe just for himself.
Stalin, not Hitler, together with Jewish Banking Mafia was the primary initiator of the WWII. Hitler was not a nice guy but please stop blaming him for all world crimes. Stalin, Roosevelt, Churchill, Mao, and Japanese were not any better.
Of course GErmany must pay for all of Europe's Cradle-To-Grave Welfare and early retirements.
It's only 'Fair", doncha know, since they produce so much, and do so well. Why should the GERMANS get to keep all that money for themselves, when the socialist pols can do so much 'Good!' with it, and buy so many votes elsewhere!
Don't you understand that these pols have hungry children, and mistresses to feed? What kind of a heartless, conservative bastard are you, anyway?
Greeks lost their election. The banksters want a revolution and can't even force stupido Europe into one without starving them to death first.
Germany should out, with whoever. Leaave the rest to a devalued Euro to sort themselves out.
There is no reason not to come back later with help but lance the boil first.
Then the markets will react to credible solution - and so will business round the globe.
The can has become too large to kick, the size of an oil drum.
Plus the cankicker has emphysema and his kickingfoot is worn down to a nub...but the crazy basterd keeps asking for more meth and a new boot.
btw. I dont get it ..
if Europe is so important , why China does not make move or USA
anyway ..I think they all must default , and sell their assets on market
after that we can have fresh start again
Despite recent market rally, internals are getting worse, not better - new update: 'Greece, SPX and 22 New Bearish Portfolio Positions!!'
One imagines that every G20 leak (eu based or not) is Geithner.
With the bank bailout, what is done is to transfer the losses of the banks to the balance of the state.
So the stock has risen and interest on bonds have risen.
http://agstock.blogspot.com.es/
If Italy and Spain were to leave the eurozone, they would probably also default on their foreign debt. Such an act would probably cause the European financial system to collapse – something that would ultimately reverberate in Italy and Spain, too. But the irony is that an Italian or Spanish exit would probably end up hurting France and Germany more than it would hurt Italy or Spain.
We could be at vix.. 30 in no time.. then 10 point increments thereafter onto 80+. My estimates are each 10 pt vix move equals - 100 pts on the sp.
nothing like fear in the mkts when it finally arrives.
vc
does any see any corelation with this
Spanish flu
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1918_flu_pandemic
SPANIC FLU
If Germany makes a movie; it won't be a comedy...
Baking with ubermensch
Cascading Default Syndrome is highly contagious and there is no known cure...remember to burn the bodies.
BEHIND CLOSED DOORS:- THE TENSIONS AND FEAR OF AN EUROPEAN BREAK-OUT ARE MOUNTING WITH SNB AND BUNDESBANK HAVING NOT CLUE WHAT TO DO EXCEPT FOR COMMOM EURO SHORT-TERM BILLS AND BACKED BY PHYSICAL GOLD.....
Europe sleeps wit da fish
when Germany moves ,it hurt´s
WTF let France make the move! theyre all for pissing in the wind. Only moveGermany needs to do is GET THE FUCK OUT NOW.
The French cannot move! They are all retired or on holidays!!!
It's No Good Captain She's Breaking Up!
Aooogah Ahoogah
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u95E__3TSN0
Maybe it's me, but I will go with the not smart people trying the same old thing (history rhyming). The long term plan seems to crush Germany and it's economy by saddling it with some or most of the bankers debt. It's been done twice already and as an industrious people they have hunkered down and payed it off. It will slow them down allowing the periphery to rebuild and gain some equal footing until next time the need to crush Germany arises. (The plan is to give the bill to Germany either with or without the Euro) As for the rest of the world..
There is no Japan to help out, they shot their wad on nuclear energy and you can hear their death rattle around the world. So right now, no war and destruction in Europe because Germany can't rebuild and pay off everyone by itself. ME wars are still good for destruction, you get rebuilding and resources. Of course, Russia and China are getting tired of US imperialism (sorry, killing those that hate the US for their freedom) which could start new cold war and be bad for invading in the ME. Something big is needed to continue the war in the ME, the CIA would need to launch a real missle at Israel and blame Iran. Not the bottle rockets tallied as missles, a real one that would hit a symbol to rally the world troops like the "terrorists" did in the US. A breakthrough in negotiations is the last thing bankers need in Iran. The Iran window has only a couple of months left and a US president wanting to get reelected would need to pull the trigger before the end of summer.
Of course this is pretty fringe stuff, but "desperate times" and "no bounds to human stupidity"... This has been your man in the street geopolitical bankster roundup.
G20 gets it!
who coulda node?
We'll see if the G20 really gets it. Yields are indicating it.
http://confoundedinterest.wordpress.com/2012/06/18/bailout-fizzies-spanish-italian-yields-jump-spain-10s-over-7/
The euro was a marrage of the odd couples trying to replace the dollar but a mix of rich countrys and poor countyrs could never work out, Perhaps we could send King Oslamma to europe to straighten out their problems by dictates he could end it in a mater of days and still have time for a golf game.