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Food Stamp Use Surges By Most In Years As Alabama Foodstamp Recipients Double In May

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It appears that GDP data revisions are not the only thing that the administration enjoys fudging with in order to make the Chinese ministry of Truth seem like a real ministry of truth. After last month the data for April food stamp recipients indicated the we may, just may, be reaching an inflection point in the foodstamp participation following a mere 60 thousand jump in those receiving Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP), today's just released data confirmed that the BLS and BEA may have had a hand or two when determining this latest data series. Because the just announced jump in foodstamp usage of over 1.1 million is entirely out of the blue, and as the chart below shows, is the highest single monthly jump in Foodstamp participation since mid 2009, when eligibility requirements were adjusted. Yes, that's 45.8 million people (obviously an all time record) living on foodstamps which amount to the whopping $133.80 per person (an increase of $0.54 M/M) and $283.65 (an increase of $1.29) per household. Obviously, annualizing the latest monthly rate of 1.1 million people, it means that over 13 million Americans will live on about one third what the cheapest iPad costs in about a year.

But wait, there's more. Digging into the numbers reveals something pecuiliar: virtually the entire surge in monthly SNAP participation is due to one state alone: Alabama, which saw those living on foodstamps jump from 868K to 1.762MM. That's 36% of Alabama's population. Is this merely a grand rehearsal for the Jefferson County bankruptcy? Did the state see a mass surge in foodstamp use as hundreds of thousands are trying to game the system in advance of what will be an apic Chapter 9? And if yes, what does that mean for all the other states which will promptly follow in the footsteps of Jefferson County, and for US foodstamp participation?

Which begs the question: will Obama be the first president under whose rule total foodstamp usage hit 100 million? Surely, by then there will be a Nobel price for destroying one's middle class better and faster than any communist in the history of the world, so at least there will be something to memorialize it with.

h/t Papa and John L

 

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Tue, 08/02/2011 - 18:54 | 1518787 baby_BLYTHE
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transitory?

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 19:01 | 1518810 Cheesy Bastard
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bullish?

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 19:10 | 1518840 CompassionateFascist
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No, black-ish.  In Alabama just about 100%.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 19:16 | 1518847 hedgeless_horseman
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...and bluish.*

 

*vote for the (D) team

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 19:19 | 1518883 Cheesy Bastard
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+1.  Well played, sir.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 20:08 | 1519032 Pool Shark
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Oh, Snap!

 (Bitchez!)

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 21:36 | 1519254 rocker
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Snap at who?  O.K.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 22:07 | 1519323 flacon
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How hard is it for people to grow at least SOME of their own food and create local food co-operatives? I have a small back yard and live in Canada but I grow quite a bit of my own food. Alabama ought to be prime growing climate - unlike here. It's called being PRODUCTIVE and INNOVATIVE. Some of my "awake" friends who are stuck in the urban setting grow tomato plants in 5 gallon buckets. At least it's better than nothing!

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 22:19 | 1519352 rocker
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Great point, they get twice the daytime sun you get in Alabama. Shelby has lots of land. Grow those veggies bitches.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 22:48 | 1519408 Mactheknife
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LOL!  Surely you jest. Like that's gonna happen.

Wed, 08/03/2011 - 01:02 | 1519587 boiltherich
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SNAP for the year amounts to 80 billion federal dollars in the Department of Agriculture budget which helps feed tens of millions of Americans for whom there is little hope and zero opportunity.  http://www.kowaldesign.com/budget/budget.html

Interest on the national debt to the investor class for FY 2011 is $385,871,949,498.00  http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/ir/ir_expense.htm

In fact the total budget for the Dept Of Ag is 140 billion and 80 of that goes to help real people actually eat, the rest goes to Cargill, Monsanto, Tyson, and other corporate pigs at the trough in the form of corporate welfare, even McDonalds for fucking christ sakes. 

The GOP wants the budget of the department reduced by 40 billion.  Maybe more, but they want SNAP cut out and even ended, while maintaining the corporate welfare or even increasing it, because that is how they get rich, by selling their votes to the highest bidder.  And they have no shame or remorse about this bribery, it is open and bald faced, since the SCOTUS said that bribery is free speech.

We could slash the departmental budget by nearly half and still feed people as well as keep family and individual farms from collapse just by ending the 60 billion per year in corporate gifts to shareholders and officers of the ten largest Ag corporations. 

This will not happen because GOP and to a lesser degree a few democrats from the red states are the Ag heartland and they simply are not going to risk their biggest contributors ire, they will not only support current levels of corporate welfare but they will make this part of the budget bigger, reduce SNAP by 40 billion and increase corporate welfare by 20 billion, and viola they can plausibly argue on election day that they cut 20 billion of freeloader welfare. 

This is just how we got into the fucked up mess we are in, but nothing will be done because even the teabagging anal retentive jerks have staked out a whole bunch of cuts in spending for people, but no cuts for corporations in their districts. 

Isn't it funny how the fire and brimstone cutters called the tea party want exactly the same thing as the GOP has been demanding for 30 years but this newly named and improved version claims to have a militant right to get it or destroy everything and rebuild in their xtian morality in a way that does nothing but favor the ultra rich while leaving the rest of us in poverty?  The teabaggers are nothing but a strawman created to make the ultra fascist GOP look moderate by comparison. 

What I want, and what I will see in my lifetime, is a return to economic justice.  If you do not believe me just watch, I will make it so, you can too but of course there will always be pussies that sit it out and whine but do nothing.  I will have enemies of course, but more friends, and in the end the economic powerhouse we will become will be all the proof needed. 

When people put their lives on the line for justice sometimes they lose and only a few win, but once won justice is real, and for the crooks and frauds, and thieves, and abusive fascists it is indescribably painful, all misbegotten wealth will be returned to those who worked for it and they will again have a voice, the voice of democracy.  Look at all the charts you want, but bet your fucking ass on this, I am not going to rest until modern finance and modern theft is destroyed. 

 

TYLER>>>  SPELL CHECK?

Wed, 08/03/2011 - 01:16 | 1519600 wisefool
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See, Satan has tried to write the tax code over and over again. Christian philosophers will tell you that the only time christ got pissed off had something to do with tax. Bhudda theoretically burned the asian world down from guilt being a svelt tax collector rather be a fat man eating rice. Then Khan fixed it by seeded the gene pool. But hopefuly <sarc> NPR is educating folks that the male chromasome is going to die out.

Marry young. marry for life. do not drink or fuck to much unless you actually know the math involved that it takes to get (metaphorically) a planet ready for all of lady gaga's spawn a habitat.

Untill then watch CNBC. Cramer has a tax free charitable trust that invests in Ag.

Wed, 08/03/2011 - 01:39 | 1519622 zhandax
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*vote for the (D) team

Wait a minute.  Richard Shelby is from Alabama and he plays a republican on TV.....

Wed, 08/03/2011 - 01:55 | 1519633 FEDbuster
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The folks in Alabama must have ate all their "green shoots"?

Food Stamps hiding the soup lines since 1939

Hasten the Collapse, OBAMA 2012

Wed, 02/22/2012 - 03:18 | 2183713 Mauibrad
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NY EBT cards used everywhere? report:  video:  

Wed, 08/03/2011 - 03:19 | 1519717 janus
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boiltherich,

i can tell that we are gonna be friends.

yeah, spell check is an issue for me as well...my accent makes for skewed phonetic approximations.

janus

Wed, 08/03/2011 - 03:35 | 1519722 Michael
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In retrospect, you may as well have taught a monkey to push the "Yes" button on Epic legislation fundamentally changing how our country is governed.

Gabby Giffords is not of sound mind, making determinations on how a country of our sophistication is to be run.

Monkeys now run our country. It is the Planet of the Apes.

Debbie the Jew will be getting a nice bonus for her fine work. So typical.

Wed, 08/03/2011 - 01:07 | 1519592 Fish Gone Bad
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Alabama has all those new anti-illegal-alien rules/laws.  So is it safe to assume that all those on food stamps are truly US citizens?  If so, that is mighty frightening.  When I lived in Alabama in the early 60's, there was ample space to grow food.

Wed, 08/03/2011 - 01:55 | 1519640 zhandax
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Don't Walmart much?  One of the girls at work was complaining tonight that she got in line behind someone in Walmart Monday with two shopping carts.  This customer finished the first cart and demanded to pay with a SNAP card.  It contained all the steaks and goodies.  Then she had the cashier ring up the other cart full of ramen noodles, toilet paper, and the like and she paid cash for that.  I asked what the date was Monday.  My co-worker looked puzzled and I explained that SNAP cards get re-filled on the first of the month.  Welcome to the 21st century.  I have to shake my head when I see one of those cards with the American Flag on it in the checkout line.  The most un-American concept ever created.  Just to get a bunch of useless asshats re-elected.

Wed, 08/03/2011 - 03:39 | 1519726 Pay Day Today
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Helping millions of your fellow struggling Americans live hand to mouth is "un-American"? What are you, sadistic? The amount that the US has given the banks it could run SNAP for a century. Including the few deadbeat cheats who are cheating the system.

Maybe you should focus on the real big money parasites in the economy.

Wed, 08/03/2011 - 07:11 | 1519826 mojine
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I focus on ALL parasites, SNAP, Monsanto, DOD, DEA, HEW, DOE, IRS. DHS, EPA ... ! ALL must go!

Wed, 08/03/2011 - 07:25 | 1519861 writingsonthewall
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...but it's easier to blame the poor than it is to fight the banks - don't you recognise a coward when you see one?

 

Of course the supporters of the system are going to blame the victims and not the perpetrators - otherwise they might have to face the reality that Capitalism has failed - like it was always destined to.

Wed, 08/03/2011 - 13:35 | 1521238 zhandax
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@payday

Been registered for almost two weeks?  Guess you read a lot of my comments before you posted?  I got news for you cowboy; you haven't stumbled into another yahoo chatroom.  Why don't you STFU until you have a clue?

Wed, 08/03/2011 - 00:32 | 1519556 dark pools of soros
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what??!!  and take good land away from the meth labs??? 

Wed, 08/03/2011 - 03:53 | 1519730 dolly madison
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How hard is it for people to grow at least SOME of their own food and create local food co-operatives?

 

Harder than you might think.  I live in a small town surrounded by rural land, so we have been able to grow a big garden in our front yard, and keep small farm animals in our back yard, but it's not so easy for many because of laws.  Just recently one woman had a big fight on her hands with the local government over her front yard garden, and many cities and towns do not allow farm animals of any kind.  With the way the world is going, the laws need to change for sure.

It's crazy that so many don't try though.  Here where I live there are many poor people, getting many benefits, but I don't see many gardens.  Hopefully we will be trendsetters here.

Wed, 08/03/2011 - 11:54 | 1520872 bam_son
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Yes exactly! I live in a tiny apartment in a major city and grew tomatoes, peppers and zuchini this year.  It doesn't amount to anything much but I am learning along the way.  

The problem is that after pots, soil and organic plants are tallied up, I spent around $20 to get about $5 worth of food.  However,  it doesn't take much if you have some seeds and soil.  A large % of people receiving foodstamps probably live in apt buildings so it is not feasible for them but there are success stories.  I had friends working at some projects in California.  There was a community garden on a small patch of land that was tended to successfully by the resedents. 

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 21:33 | 1519255 rocker
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I'll snap at Shelby who claims he wants no government programs that are in any way considered enttilements.

Hello Mr Bastard, Two-faced, Scumbag Liar Shelby.  Then support your own people.

You claim to have a sefl providing state. Open your house and feed the hungry.

Oh Yeah, Didn't you beg for aid from the hurricanes and tornadoes.  Eh.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 21:34 | 1519256 rocker
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Dam that felt good.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 22:16 | 1519346 sun tzu
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You mean the federal government took money from the residents of Alabama through taxes and gave it back to them - therefore it is welfare? Maybe you think the federal government somehow creates its own money. 

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 22:22 | 1519356 rocker
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Didn't you ever hear of Big Ben and his 10 million dollar hellicopters?

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 22:46 | 1519404 Manthong
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Uh, food stamps from the Feds are good for those edible inflation stat iPads, right?

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 22:21 | 1519355 Rodent Freikorps
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Disaster relief is not an entitlement program.

That is one of the few legitimate reasons to maintain the union: insurance.

Welfare queens are not in the same category, since they actually planned on becoming parasites, and for at least 18 years, not just the duration of the emergency.

In other words, you are a liar, or a moron and I think you should fuck off before you embarass yourself further.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 22:26 | 1519373 rocker
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Understood. Problem is Alabama got aid before they even knew Louisiana had a problem.

Who had their hand out and got more. "Alabama".  

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 22:48 | 1519407 Rodent Freikorps
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Alabama's tornadoes came a month before Louisiana's flooding.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 22:23 | 1519362 Dakota Thunder
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If you want Government to support people, have the government send them gold.

 

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 19:20 | 1518886 glenlloyd
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just a soft patch, I swear

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 19:20 | 1518888 fishface
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Phat finger

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 19:32 | 1518921 eureka
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Phat Federation - goodbye usa

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 19:38 | 1518940 Pladizow
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Oh SNAP!

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 19:49 | 1518980 Cheesy Bastard
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Must.Have.Milk. (Snap out of it, Cheesy)

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 21:25 | 1519231 Zero Govt
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Looking good guys, looking really go...dam awful !
Tue, 08/02/2011 - 22:10 | 1519335 nodhannum
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Pladizow, who in the hell can concentrate on food stamps, SNAP, or whatever with those two gorgeous mammaries stareing at me?  Now what was the subject about snapples, nipples, oh what the hell.

Wed, 08/03/2011 - 00:04 | 1519506 TruthInSunshine
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I am quite conservative on entitlements.

HOWEVER, let's all consider some facts here that may put this into proper context.

Yes, the dramatic increase in the numbers receiving food assistance is troubling and a sure sign that the economy is deteriorating at a rapid clip, and that the American System of - well, just about everything - is failing.

However, the amount paid for food assistance is on the order of 68 billion USD (for FY 2010, at least).

In 2010, an average 40 million US residents received SNAP benefits worth $134 a month to buy food; the total cost of SNAP benefits was $68 billion.

SNAP, Disability - Rural Migration News

 

So, 68 billion is approximately 1/10th of what TARP cost, not to mention the estimated 3.7 trillion to 5.5 trillion of taxpayer monies (past and ongoing) given to the banks and Wall Street (with record bonuses now being paid out, again, in the wake of abject irresponsibility and failure).

68 billion for SNAP, which actually does help feed some people who are genuinely down on their luck despite trying, and also helps to feed children, who are not in control of their circumstances, is about 1/80th to 1/90th of what banks and Wall Street have been plied with by our 'elected representative' and the Federal Reserve.

I am not defending SNAP, wholesale, on the merits (although I do think there are people who genuinely should receive these benefits, due to the warped system we're living in, even though I definitely lean libertarian, and it almost pains me to say that; I'd much prefer some sort of farm plot program to teach people to grow crops and livestock, but that may not be feasible for a variety of reasons, at least not now), but I did want to add some context here.


Wed, 08/03/2011 - 02:58 | 1519697 StychoKiller
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Once you compromise your principles, we end up...well, right where we're at!

What's so horrible about charity?

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 08:31 | 2088161 AssFire
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My thoughts exactly. People don't realize how easily convertible these benefits are- especially in the undertow areas.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 22:27 | 1519374 rocker
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Nice Snappers.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 23:17 | 1519447 drawswell
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...depression-ish...

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 23:27 | 1519458 Die Weiße Rose
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Like I said, most of the wealth of the once so proud British Empire and iit's various pirated colonies including the USA

was achieved on the back of slave trading and human trafficking including child-labour and slave labour. To add insult to injury you then have some white trash thugs posting their small-dick racsist shit on here like that Idiot "compassionate Fascist".

No fucking Idea of culture and no fucking Idea of where he came from. The US is truly fucked not because of African Americans on food-stamps, but because they are white trash Europeans that invaded America 200 years ago, plundered murdered and robbed their way through the Land by slave-trading and stealing the Land of the Indigenous People, and now 200 years later they have blown it, they are fucked and their fanatical american dream is slowly turning into a fascist nightmare caused by their total moral and financial bankruptsy.

So you blame "black People" living in Poverty and Foodstamps for your own stupidity and incompetence ?

With dickless cretins like you, it comes to no surprise to anyone in the world that the USA is fucked.


 

Wed, 08/03/2011 - 00:48 | 1519576 Oh regional Indian
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Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzinger!

Well said Rose. Hard pill to swallow, but so true. People believe convenient truths. I posted in similar vein a couple of days ago. 

The present is loaded with signatures of the past. To deny that is to deny your own damned existence. And if your personal past affects you then the collective past affects the collective.

But that puts too much responsibility on people. It takes recognizing their family trees to be full of looters and murderers. And then the shocking truth that an apple tree produces apples. Only. I went through that exercise, personally. And can tell you from personal experience that losign the bedrock of beliefs is quite un-settling, to say the least. Too much effort for most.

Truly, while people mindlessly repeat the "those who do not study history...."etc., not understanding that to "study" history is not about knowing dates and characters. It is the grasping of the thread of the present, which has the faint echo f all history and un-ravelling history.

Trouble is, one is usually left un-ravelled one-self by such an exercise.

I hope that made some sense.  Grab the thread of your own history, every "one". 

ORI

http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2011/03/21/what-can-i-do/

 

Wed, 08/03/2011 - 01:12 | 1519595 DavidPierre
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1859:

 Abolitionist John Brown who, unlike Abraham Lincoln, really was committed to freeing the slaves, and eighteen of his men, capture the federal arsenal at Harper's Ferry with the hope of starting a rebellion of slaves in Virginia which will spread to all of the slave states. He and his men are captured and Brown is put on trial and convicted of treason against the state of Virginia, murder and criminal conspiracy. He is hanged on December 2, 1859.

In what is sold to white Americans as their history, Brown will be painted as a virtual madman when, in fact, he was one of the few great moral forces of nineteenth century America.


"Now, if it is deemed necessary

that I should forfeit my life
for the furtherance of the ends of justice,
and mingle my blood further
with the blood of my children
and with the blood of millions
in this slave country
whose rights are disregarded
by wicked, cruel, and unjust enactments,
I say, let it be done."

John Brown
Wed, 08/03/2011 - 03:47 | 1519729 janus
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i appreciate your sentiments but...

john brown was a madman.

a negro was the first to fall to ole john brown's indignation at harper's (gotta love the irony of history).

rousting folks in the darkness preceeding dawn, only to slaughter them in front of their families, for the crime of whiteness (not, mind you, for bourgeois complicity, or any other tangitarial association, just vanilla whiteness), are not the fundaments of moral force...they are, indeed, the force du jour (as witnessed by our kill/capture methods in cent asia) and are emblematic of our amoral overlords' worldview. in short, the means and methods of john brown and uncle same are the ignoble and damnable paving stones on the black path to hell (good intentions).

honor before liberty; death before dishonor

most sincerely,

janus

Wed, 08/03/2011 - 11:51 | 1520865 AnAnonymous
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Waooo, another awesome piece by US citizens. Now, means and methods determine the goal.

When somebody kills to prevent being enslaved, that is the same as killing to enslave. Both are kills and are on the path paved with good intentions.

Just up to where will US citizens go to rationalize their behaviour? It is another mystery but hey, dont be shy on your expectations because they have potential for sure.

Wed, 08/03/2011 - 11:52 | 1520869 AnAnonymous
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Waooo, another awesome piece by US citizens. Now, means and methods determine the goal.

When somebody kills to prevent being enslaved, that is the same as killing to enslave. Both are kills and are on the path paved with good intentions.

Just up to where will US citizens go to rationalize their behaviour? It is another mystery but hey, dont be shy on your expectations because they have potential for sure.

Wed, 08/03/2011 - 06:54 | 1519796 nmewn
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John Brown was a homocidal maniac. Period.

Wed, 08/03/2011 - 01:14 | 1519599 Raymond Reason
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Hey Die Rose,

I hate all races equally, but you've got to admit, when it comes to the blame game, the modern American Black got game. 

Wed, 08/03/2011 - 01:24 | 1519607 CompassionateFascist
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Actually, Black farmers in Alabama - and elsewhere in the South - used to grow sufficient food to feed themselves...with some surplus to market. Then the Jews bought the Democrat Party (1948ff.), gave the Blacks the right to vote...and good 'ol Mass Democracy did its usual: universal sloth, dependency, and government control. But keep up with the name-calling, White Rose. You and your liberal kind are going to be easy meat.   

Wed, 08/03/2011 - 11:13 | 1520725 Léonard
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Always the same tunes... The Black man made America...the Black man made Europe...the Black man made Humanity...blablablabla... Don't you think Africa wouldn't be such a mess for thousands years if the Black man did all this ?

First thing the Black man did in History was to sell his brother to the Black tribe around the corner, then later to the muslims during 14 centuries before the White man came and abolished slavery.

A bit of education made by a African historian : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AowSpZDQ0BA&feature=player_embedded

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 21:59 | 1519298 Michael
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Talking about food; What's Debbie Schultz's favorite Vetgtable?
Gabby Giffords.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 19:02 | 1518817 TSA Thug
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You grabbed the pole position and that is what you post?

Have you learned nothing on the hedge?

It's "Oh snap! Bitchez!"

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 19:47 | 1518971 El Viejo
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Life is transitory sweet thing.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 19:54 | 1518999 DormRoom
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transitory tornadoes.  'plains the surge

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 19:58 | 1519010 PY-129-20
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No, not at all. It is working as intended. And you know it.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 20:00 | 1519013 jerry_theking_lawler
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nope, the AL number just slipped by the Ministry of Truth this time before it was changed. it will be transitory b/c it will be properly 'adjusted' next month.....

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 20:22 | 1519067 CrashisOptimistic
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This is hope I can believe in.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 21:28 | 1519232 EvlTheCat
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Can you spare some change, mister? My SNAP money just ran out...

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 20:43 | 1519122 max2205
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Typo? There's only 4.5 mm people in the great state of AL

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 21:09 | 1519195 Pain Train
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Alabama is one of the most obese states in the US. This increase in food stamps is gonna WRECK spending projections with all those big eaters down there.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 21:29 | 1519244 Zero Govt
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expect a surge in Burger King sales as their burgers are twice the size of McDonalds puny decontented Big Macs

Long Burger King in Alabama, Short McDonalds

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 23:08 | 1519434 Pain Train
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Why'd I get junked for pointing out a statistical fact? I'd also like to say (based on personal experience) that peeps from Alabama are among the most sensitive about their obesity.

Wed, 08/03/2011 - 05:13 | 1519755 janus
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no junk here.

we are, most shamefully, a lumbering gastropod...just disgusting. 

i'll only take issue with one point, paintrain: they ain't so much sensitive about the subject, they just don't understand why you can't wrap your little mind around the abundant virtues circumscribing their terrific girth.  three hundred pounds has (have) become a badge of honor (like in polynesia)...status, bitchez!  fried chicken ain't just for sunday supper anymore, slackers! buffet busting has become as popular as NCAA football. 

but the metaphor holds true, no matter the geographic particulars...i've been studying the human condition for a while; and i find it decidedly obese in every regard (in other words, the tape measure is the least of our problems).

 

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 21:58 | 1519308 James
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I don'y know what the biggest county in Ala. is but I do know Jefferson County, Ala. was raped hard awile back by, who else?, the banksters.

Might this be a reason?

On a scale of 1-10 w/ North Dakota being a one economically,  Ala. is 9.9.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 23:51 | 1519493 Sam Clemons
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Isn't North Dakota the only state with a state owned bank?  Not that the government does much right, but they would likely do a better job of handing out funny money for real projects than private banks do for their buddies' slush funds.

http://www.banknd.nd.gov/

Wed, 08/03/2011 - 03:03 | 1519705 CompassionateFascist
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Detroit, Jeff Cty, etc: welcome to Black-Ruled America. Oh, & POTUS too. Looking more and more like Zimbabwe every day.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 21:53 | 1519294 zerohandle
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Tradition?

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 22:12 | 1519339 caconhma
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Tyler is wrong. The obama and his zionist masters goal is to put the entire US population on food stamps.

But on a bright side, theses food stamps will not buy even a single loaf of bread.

Welcome to Obama's US Zimbabwe land.

The USA = a land of brainwashed fools!

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 22:48 | 1519410 Mad Marv
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I have a kid who works at Krogers here in TN.  They told me that at the first of the month, people line up at the service desk with their SNAP cards, and take CASH for whatever is on the card instead of buying food.  They say that some people's SNAP cards are so wore out, that they have the SNAP number written down on a seperate piece of paper and have the cashier enter the card manually - to apply for a new SNAP card could mean they get audited, and may lose some freebies. 

Fucking depressing. 

Wed, 08/03/2011 - 03:04 | 1519706 Pay Day Today
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Nonsense. If that is actually happening Krogers should lose their license to participate in SNAP. If it is actually happening you should report them.

Wed, 08/03/2011 - 07:30 | 1519797 Bob
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If it's happening, a massive system error would be the only explanation that makes sense.  Not only is it a felony for both recipient and merchant who gives cash for food stamps, but the merchant loses their particpation in the SNAP program.  Can you see a national chain like Kroger running that kind of risk?  It would put them out of business.  And what would be the incentive for the store?  The only way cash for stamps works is for the merchant to "pay" for the stamps at a marked discount . . . something audits of store finances would catch in an instant.  Party stores can hide this kind of action, but not corporate chain large volume stores.  Hell, I don't know, but I would expect their inventory AND financial control systems are wired directly from the cash register to the purchasing and accounting departments at corporate headquarters.  Even a rogue cashier or manager couldn't pull it off.

I can't believe this one. 

There's no reason to even think about recipients not requesting replacement of worn out cards to avoid audits of their "accounts."  Audits triggered simply by replacement of lost, PIN protected cards is absurd, imo.  Not to mention that an "audit" would have to track how many items physically went into the shopper's bags in order to reveal anything.  Ridiculous. 

I know a guy with a worn out card whose number has to be manually entered at the point of sale.  He doesn't request a new card for the obvious reason--they'll cancel a card that still "works," albeit manually, as they issue a new one, and he doesn't trust the system to get him the new one seamlessly, without losing access to his benefits.  We've all lost ATM and credit cards--you know the drill.  It's a major hassle--imagine going through it with an understaffed, fucked up government agency and going without food until things are sorted out. 

Likewise, a story earlier in the thread where the shopper pays for expensive food with SNAP while paying for cheapo food with cash makes no sense.  WRT SNAP, both carts are filled with utterly fungible goods.  Don't think the poor couldn't figure that out.  It makes no sense at all. 

This anecdote is a complete FAIL. 

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 19:02 | 1518795 Nolsgrad
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WooHoo! go Bama!

edit: Why the hell did they increase by 800k MoM in Alabama?

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 19:16 | 1518848 chet
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edit:  nevermind

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 19:45 | 1518964 El Viejo
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I wonder if it had anything to do with the cancellation of the Space Shuttle??

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 21:36 | 1519258 EvlTheCat
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No, but thanks for your suggestion Patriot.  I will run it through the propaganda machine, and see if we can get your story idea on page one of the NYT tomorrow.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 20:25 | 1519073 CrashisOptimistic
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That's the point.  

This is the moral equivalence of Q1 GDP revision reports of 2.0, 1.8 and 1.9% just before you uncork the final revision of 0.4%.

They have been lying about the SNAP numbers and made it up in a late revision lest the agency employees go public about the scam.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 21:10 | 1519201 vamoose1
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or setting up   q3    on  the qt

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 20:27 | 1519085 MrBinkeyWhat
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A major tornado ripped through the northern 1/3 of the state (including portions of Jefferson County. There was a massive relief effort, but those folks eventually went home, leaving homeless folks with no place to go to work, other than clean up efforts.

The jump in foodstamp recipients does not surprise me at all.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 18:57 | 1518797 caerus
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SNAP!

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 20:41 | 1519113 Clueless Economist
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Snap, Crackle and Pop

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 19:00 | 1518803 caerus
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could we make subsistence more palatable for the rest of us?  seriously...please...SNAP!

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 19:00 | 1518807 MsCreant
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Let's get into stoopid.

Let's get retarded in here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LT62F8JqgSY

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 19:11 | 1518849 Cheesy Bastard
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Hmm.  Snap card food and retarded, eh?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPzVLL9OADU&feature=related

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 19:34 | 1518926 MsCreant
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If I could remove my comment, I would. I got hit by earlier storms in my state on April 4. I have marked my comment down.

Apologies Alabama.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 20:32 | 1518992 TSA Thug
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Jeesh, there is nothing worse than wishy-washy. Formulate you opinion, post, and fight for your right to freely express yourself.

Horrible! Definitely an educator.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 21:43 | 1519273 EvlTheCat
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I does not surprise me that a pedophile would support freely exposing... whoops... expressing oneself.

Wed, 08/03/2011 - 07:25 | 1519860 janus
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no sweat, sugar.

God is just angry at Alabama for being so awesome in football (they say He's a Notre Dame fan...i didn't believe them for the longest time, but it's hard to argue with T-5 tornados...just ask dorothy).

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 19:02 | 1518811 Mr. Mandelbrot
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As an Alabamian, it's disturbing we have as many food stamp recipients when we're one of a few states with the topography and climate to not only produce enough food to feed ourselves but to have the ability to produce enough to export.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 19:06 | 1518831 andybev01
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I'm sure that there's a dead opossum joke in there as well.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 19:19 | 1518884 Mongrel
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O-fuckin'-possum??? You ain't from around here, are you boy? Well bless my soul and shout Bama-lama! We all be eatin' high on the hawg . . .

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 19:42 | 1518958 Rodent Freikorps
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I was once denounced for eating some McNuggets by a guy who loved hell out of eating mollusks.

Didn't make me feel bad at all.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 19:40 | 1518947 El Viejo
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Can you buy 'possum with food stamps?  Does it come in a can? How about dried like sail cat?

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 20:05 | 1519026 El Viejo
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I've tried:  calamari, elk, eel, escargot, haggis, octopus, pig's feet, tongue, bees, grasshoppers(chocolat covered of course), rabbit, dove, frog's legs, venison, goose, wild duck, quail, aligator, sea urchin, various sushi(or is that sushii?), bear stew,  various organ meats, BUT I never tried 'possum. I'd like to git me some of that Nutria sausage though, from LA(not Lower AL or Los Angeles)

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 20:41 | 1519114 caerus
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mmmmm...Nutria sausage....

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 21:19 | 1519216 hedgeless_horseman
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Nutria...the other white meat.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 22:24 | 1519363 Rodent Freikorps
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You...you...evil cannibal bastard!!!!!

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 20:11 | 1519042 nmewn
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"I'm sure that there's a dead opossum joke in there as well."

And some hard earned Fla. Cracker wisdom for ya as well, never kick a fresh cow pie on a hot day ;-)

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 22:04 | 1519320 KowPie
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"I'm sure that there's a dead opossum joke in there as well."

And some hard earned Fla. Cracker wisdom for ya as well, never kick a fresh cow pie on a hot day ;-)

What have you got against KowPies?

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 23:04 | 1519427 MsCreant
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That was mighty fresh of you...I'd watch those boots...

Wed, 08/03/2011 - 00:28 | 1519550 RockyRacoon
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All this possum talk is too close to raccoons.   Makes me uncomfortable.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 19:18 | 1518881 janus
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which is reason enough to blanket the Blackbelt with endless bowls of inedible, and once again profitable, Cotton!  i love the smell of defoliate in the morning, smells like armageddon.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 19:21 | 1518893 knukles
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That's just plain fucking wrong.  Funny, but wrong.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 20:14 | 1519048 nmewn
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I'm gonna break into my Na Yawwwk accent if this keeps up...lol.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 20:36 | 1519103 Rodent Freikorps
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Ain't that a Baaaaston accent?

You can't fool me.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 21:05 | 1519187 nmewn
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Could be, they all talk weird to me.

Ayyy, I'll meetcha at dirty turd and turd...apparently meaning 33rd & 3rd...instead of a porta john in the back of the diner next to the mens room...ya really gotta listen with both ears with some of em ;-)

Course, I never could figger out you'ze either...I think its like ya'll...lol.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 21:56 | 1519297 EvlTheCat
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Fresh cow pie kicking and dirty turds.  nmewn, you are funny as shit sir..

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 22:06 | 1519327 KowPie
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"Fresh cow pie kicking and dirty turds. nmewn, you are funny as shit sir.."

 

Again with the KowPie kicking? It's a conspiracy!

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 22:23 | 1519359 EvlTheCat
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hahahahaha

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 23:29 | 1519460 knukles
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Crying and chest hurts.
Jesus, when I was in high school we didn't ever get this bad and that was before political correctness.

Wed, 08/03/2011 - 07:29 | 1519870 janus
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you should've been born a Cracker, too...if you think this is funny, you'd wet yourself if you heard what we say when we're sure y'all aren't listening.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 19:40 | 1518945 optimator
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Those food stamp recipients should be given some work in the fields cultivating and picking to earn those food stamps and cell phones.  They'll feel better for it, and healthier too.  They'll be able to sleep at night versus killing each other.  As an added bonus it will allow some Mexicans to return home.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 22:04 | 1519319 James
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Recent Ala. legistlation forced EVERY ILEGAL from Ala.

Obama is suing them for it.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 19:02 | 1518813 CompassionateFascist
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Yeah...uh...actually, those food stamps free up a lot of debtbux to buy i-pods....

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 19:06 | 1518830 wisefool
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I am not being sarcastic. Give evey single man woman and child in america a snap allotment. even give it to the illegals. end all the tax code deductions all of them. put in a national sales tax.

You'll find alot of those good ole boys will be willing to make more than the $40k knife edge that determines living the good life (under) and being a tax slave till you make $300k (over).

And nobody will starve.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 19:07 | 1518832 TSA Thug
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"Because the just announced jump in foodstamp usage of over 1.1 million is entirely out of the blue"

Did we import any more: Somalians, Cubans, Puerto Ricans, or Mexicans? It might do some splaining if we could find that out.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 19:47 | 1518975 r101958
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Perhaps they held it back until after the debt debate?

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 19:08 | 1518836 PC Load Letter
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Who says there is no growth in the US?

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 19:10 | 1518838 caerus
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goddmit they are NOT food stamps...they are the vangaurd of the brave new "supplemental nutrition assitance program"  im still hungry

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 19:34 | 1518925 DriveByLurker
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I beg to differ, sir!  You are not "hungry"; rather, you are "experiencing food insecurity".   You've got to keep up with the NewSpeak if you want to hang with this crowd.

 

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 19:54 | 1518996 caerus
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i will gladly file my hunger management papers with the proper authorities...

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 22:03 | 1519318 EvlTheCat
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.... on tuesday for a hamburger today!

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 19:09 | 1518841 gwar5
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.

 

 

Speaking of stamps, Russia is celebrating Obama's 50th B-day with a commemorative stamp.

And why not? He's done something the Soviet military could not do in 70 years.

 

 

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 22:08 | 1519326 EvlTheCat
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Will he be pictured with or with out his "Peace Prize"?

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 19:09 | 1518843 papaswamp
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Jefferson Co must have collapsed and they forgot to announce it. 36% of the population of Alabama is on food stamps....wow.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 19:10 | 1518844 janus
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Mr. Durden,

I'll make a couple of phone calls tomorrow...something about this stinks as bad as Auburn's national championship.

Also, for those who care, I've been floggin the bushes furiously, and still no radical rumors viz. Jeff county.  Looks to be a straightforward bankruptcy; but the lack of transparancy and their unfamiliarity with the process keeps things interesting.

lawyers, guns & money

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 19:13 | 1518860 papaswamp
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flog away....with a spike like that (for May) either the county already went under or Alabama just gave us a heads up on what is coming for other states.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 19:14 | 1518862 CompassionateFascist
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@crap, lies, and nonsense: % of population on food stamps varies directly with % of population that is black, i.e., hooked on Gov't.  Jeff county is largely of the negro persuasion.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 19:20 | 1518887 TSA Thug
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That is overtly racist and I need you to tone it down a few notches. Lets be civilized and share thoughts void of hatred.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 20:26 | 1519080 Outlaw Of The W...
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It's the truth.  Blacks and prosperity are perfectly inversely correlated.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 22:18 | 1519347 EvlTheCat
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Weren't you the same douche bag a few comments back who said if you have an opinion express it and to not be wishy-washy?  Maybe you need to double up on your bi-polar meds before "work" in the morning there TSA Thug.

Ballslinger was a better pseudonym choice.  Why didn't you pick it?

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 19:33 | 1518923 janus
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jeff county is also home to mountain brook and a lot of other tony/waspy neighborhoods (Birmingham Country Club's course is first rate); it's prospered greatly from coal, steel and then banking.  no matter, it wouldn't mean shit if birmingham were crawing with bangladeshis; the point is that the terms of this sewage bond deal were negociated without their direct approval, much less their understanding. 

poverty is perhaps more nuanced than you're allowing.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 19:36 | 1518933 kito
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lets see less fascist and more compassionate

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 22:48 | 1519412 grey7beard
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>> lets see less fascist and more compassionate

Wrong web site.  The place is crawling with right wing extemists. 

Wed, 08/03/2011 - 06:09 | 1519773 janus
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i don't know if they're so extremist (at least i pray not), they just don't know who to blame.  we're all angry, some are afraid; anger can catalyze all manner of Good, but when tinctured with fear those same passions are most easily plied to the vilest of ends... let's just say that if the nigger didn't exist, these people would have to cast the wetback, or wop, or whatever to swell the scene, fill out the foil and value the volume of whatever brown-skinned villan finds himself in the crosshairs.

sometimes, a right-wing extremist is simply a hyper-caffinated and impotent liberal. 

Wed, 08/03/2011 - 09:02 | 1520099 Vendetta
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the extremists have been fully programmed by a systematic and well-engineered political agenda spanning some 30 years to deflect blame and anger away from the political programmers.  Just like 911

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 21:20 | 1519221 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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You are full of shit. You be voting for the O man.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 21:23 | 1519230 papaswamp
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actually the number of people on food stamps exceeds the number of blacks in the state by 10%. 

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 22:11 | 1519336 KowPie
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Kind of like the relief checks handed out after Katrina?

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 19:10 | 1518846 nwskii
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I knew JFK had it wrong. I think he meant to say this:

"Ask not, what you can do for your country, but what your country can do for you"

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 19:25 | 1518900 Pay Day Today
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Actually the billionaire bankers have been asking that question (and answering it for themselves) for years.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 19:13 | 1518855 wang (not verified)
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In the day borrowing against your house (second mortgage) was generally an indication of financial duress and something one would not be comfortable talking about or even doing, the shame thing etc.  Ditto for food stamps.

 

But in modern America house as an ATM was a badge of honor, slick marketing transformed second mortgages into home equity loans, and we know what that created.

Same for food stamps, not only are they now provided in the form of a gift/debit card but you can buy anything your local Piggly Wiggly sells. The shame factor is gone and while that's not necessarily a bad thing buying stuff with a snap card is a snap.

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 19:43 | 1518960 optimator
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During the last depression, if you were destitute, you could pick out a pair of shoes from a pile of them that were donated. didn't have to break them in either.  If you needed money the government has some 'shovel ready' jobs just waiting with the CCC.

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