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Foodstamp Usage Remains At All Time High, Record Number Of Households Receive $277 In Poverty Assistance Monthly

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While we do not know if foodstamp usage is seasonally adjusted, we do know that in January it was virtually unchanged at 46.5 million recipients. And while the actual number of recipients declined by a whisper, the number of households actually receiving benefits increased to a new record of 22.2 million. Lastly, the average monthly benefit per household slide to a multi-year low of $277.27. First the quality of jobs gets diluted, next the poverty benefits. All in line with the continued dilution of real wealth, simply so nominal indexes can hit fresh 5 year highs - today the S&P hit an intraday high not seen since December 31, 2007. Luckily, soon everyone will be rich and can retire.

Households on foodstamps and average benefits:

Actual foodstamp recipients.

 

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Mon, 04/02/2012 - 16:47 | 2310697 Ahmeexnal
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Didn't millions of North Koreans just have their foodstamps revoked by the Fearless Ogolfer?

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:05 | 2310764 ms1408
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Some libertarians claim that record food stamp usage, record youth unemployment and record gap between rich and poor, is empirical evidence of the failure of the great society programs that have grown into the largest social programs the world has ever seen. However, I disagree with this. I have my reasons but I don’t feel that now is the time and place to expand on them. In fact, I believe the programs are actually a success. So much so that any opposition to these programs is an indisputable indication of a hatred for the poor. I have evidence and reasons for this too. But I’d rather not divulge them.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:06 | 2310770 Ima anal sphincter
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What?????

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:11 | 2310785 ms1408
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You heard me. I believe our government's welfare programs are a success. So much so that there is no room for disagreement.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:19 | 2310832 Ima anal sphincter
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I don't see any sarcasm quote.

I guess I've stumbled upon an  dumb-ass extraordinaire. There are plenty of dumb-ass's out there, but only a select few rise to the "next" level. You should be proud of yourself. Keep up the good work.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:22 | 2310849 I think I need ...
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he is right its worked the chinese stand in assembly lines until they can't stand anymore making iphones while the welfare recieptients in the united states use their iphones in the line at the grocery market waiting to use their food stamps. Success right???

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:30 | 2310877 Pladizow
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If you are one of the elite, then he is right!

These governement programs are accomplishing exactly what they were designed for.

Success depends upon what the true goal of the program is!

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 18:27 | 2311100 Stax Edwards
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TD, you are a master of chart manipulation, thanks for the link to the spreadsheet.  Just a few months prior to your chart benefits were only 250 per month.  #Winning!

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 21:44 | 2311576 boogerbently
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The programs are well intentioned. The problem is there is NO documentation of the applicants. Basically all you need for SSDisability FOR LIFE, is a note from your doctor. Who feels compelled to give it to you to avoid legal reprocussions. How about just checking applicants bank acct's to determine NEED.

NOTHING works on the "honor" system, unfortunately.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 22:00 | 2311610 Freddie
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Hope & Change.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:37 | 2310917 brewing
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mdb's idol...

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 18:36 | 2311124 rumblefish
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or mdb has a new name....

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:19 | 2310833 riphowardkatz
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I believe you believe it. Faith, hope, change. It would be very hard to disagree with you.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:23 | 2310855 Belarusian Bull
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Your trolling is too fat, you should improve.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:49 | 2310973 Federal Reserf
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It is a complete failure but I'll only disclose only one of my reasons.  The Great Society & other gov't/fed policies have yet to equalize the wealth of Americans. It has failed by inviting only a portion of the middle class into joining the Great Society club.  If 100% of the middle class enjoys the benefits of the Great Society (G.S.), success will be acheived.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 18:21 | 2311084 LawsofPhysics
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Ah yes, I also believe the world is flat.  I have evidence for this but I simply won't share that with you now.

MDB or Robo looking for a new moniker, do I really need a the < sarc > flags?

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 18:25 | 2311096 MagicHandPuppet
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Douche much?

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:13 | 2310797 TuPhat
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It sounds like you have opinions and you are entitled to those, but your reasons might as well be kept to yourself.  Unless you forgot the sarc tag.  I am not libertarian or any other party but it is quite clear that this nation is suffering a failure of most of it's programs whatever you may consider the cause to be.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:14 | 2310802 Tom Servo
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MDB are you posting on the wrong account?!

 

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:18 | 2310831 TuPhat
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My bad.  I should have realized it's MDB.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:34 | 2310856 tickhound
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"But I’d rather not divulge them."

Without debating 'what constitutes success'... I'd like to think that my opinion on a specific government assistance program is no indication for hatred of the poor.   

Do I assume the reverse is true?  Would support equal indisputable love?

Is this a philosophical break-through? 

I await any indisputable evidence. 

Tue, 04/03/2012 - 19:04 | 2314906 tickhound
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AND as suspected... 24 hours brings NOTHING but m'f'ing crickets.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:28 | 2310874 Pairadimes
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April Fool's Day was yesterday.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:29 | 2310875 fuu
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You could at least wipe the paint off your chin.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:44 | 2310882 vast-dom
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THAT CHART IS IDENTICAL TO APPLE STOCK CHART!

 

guess you can use foodstamps to buy iPads.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 19:48 | 2311279 AustriAnnie
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Yes, actually, you can.  Foodstamps are used as a form of currency, traded for just about anything.  ipads and crack seem to be popular choices.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 23:59 | 2311948 Agent P
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Giving someone government credit to buy an iPad vs. giving someone government credit to buy food so they can use their money to buy an iPad...no difference IMO.  I said this in another post a few days ago about smartphones, which is something I see SNAP (Link in IL) recipients with at the grocery store ALL THE DAMN TIME.  I've also seen people use Link cards to pay for groceries, then go out into the parking lot and get into a $60k Yukon Denali, but to be fair, I've seen others go outside and wait for the bus.

SNAP is a well-intentioned necessary program, and I have no problem paying taxes to help keep families (especially children) from going hungry.  However, the fraud and abuse I have witnessed first hand is enough to make my blood boil.

Tue, 04/03/2012 - 02:05 | 2312132 James-Morrison
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Just because someone is poor, does not mean that he does not want to fit in.

An iPhone is in the constitution somewhere (I think).

If not, four more years of President Zero will ensure that unalienable right is added.   

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:32 | 2310896 Federal Reserf
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"I don’t feel that now is the time and place to expand on them. In fact, I believe the programs are actually a success. So much so that any opposition to these programs is an indisputable indication of a hatred for the poor. I have evidence and reasons for this too. But I’d rather not divulge them."

In addition to the Great Society we should apply the above statments to:

1) Greenspan-Bernank Fed policy

2) FEMA response during Hurricane Katrina

3) Gideon Gono's monetary policy

4) Mao's Cultural Revolution

5) any other program with fucked up results.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 18:51 | 2311157 DavosSherman
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FUCK YOU MOTHER FUCKER ms1408

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 21:36 | 2311553 Old Poor Richard
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I'm assuming that this is sarc just as ms1408's post was sarc?

 

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 20:53 | 2311416 dataanalytics
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If you would 'rather not divulge them' then why bother to comment?
Thanks for the useless trolling...

It was somewhat humorous though!

Tue, 04/03/2012 - 04:11 | 2312223 Tsukato
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I wholeheartedly agree with you. Although for the longest time, I'd thinking that the end is coming to the U.S., I'm starting to wonder if that's the case. About 15 years ago when I was living in america, I remember some discussion on tv, and they were saying the dollar had to be devalued in the future in order that manufacturing would again be competitive. Also, something was said regarding american workers needing to lose their primadonna attitude, and work for longer hrs, and less money. Well it looks like that is coming. Also, wages in the cities here in China, rose 49% last year.

It doesn't seem to matter if the BRICS start their own world bank. Everything boils down to who controls the oil, and that it remains priced in dollars. Looks like america/nato is taking care of that.

I'm starting to wonder if it might not be a bad idea, to start, incrementally, increasing my exposure back home. For starters, I see tons of palatial homes in the hills outside Sacramento (where I'm from) in the $500-700,000 range. Hell, here in Chongqing, we've been thinking to buy a villa for around that price, but they are piles of concrete shit. Also, wages are lower in the US now, so I wonder if it might not be a bad time to start up sthg over there. Any advice?

Tue, 04/03/2012 - 04:16 | 2312226 Tsukato
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Actually, these folks on assistance were never much of an asset to the country anyway. It doesn't cost much to take care of them. Much less than endless wars. After a while, benefits can be scaled back when we are getting close to wage parity with the chinese, manufacturing can return, and the deadbeats can be dumped into their new factory jobs. At that point, get rid of welfare, foodstamps, etc., and we will be in a great position to take on the world again!

Tue, 04/03/2012 - 04:43 | 2312244 dolly madison
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Since the banksters already long ago got the farms away from the people, I think foodstamps is a good thing to have when the banksters crash the economy.  The people don't have eough land to create their own food, so if the machine can't make enough jobs or them, they still must eat.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:07 | 2310775 hawks5999
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Compassionate liberalism.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 19:00 | 2311182 nmewn
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The soft bigotry of low expectations.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 16:48 | 2310702 MagicHandPuppet
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Obama-Money, Bitchez!

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 21:37 | 2311556 Old Poor Richard
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O-bucks.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 16:48 | 2310703 SHEEPFUKKER
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Are these "e-stamps" or do they run them off the printing presses?

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:32 | 2310891 Pairadimes
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The presses already glow red from the constant printing of money, and cannot be tasked with this as well. I believe the food stamps are actually manufactured in China for the U.S. government. Probably the same plant that produces American flags.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 16:48 | 2310704 brewing
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gubment cheese...

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 16:50 | 2310709 Sqworl
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Gubment credit cards..redeemable at all food, liquor, fast-food and OTB..

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 16:52 | 2310716 Shizzmoney
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Let them eat (government) cake (twinkies)

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 16:53 | 2310717 Alcoholic Nativ...
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I love mine.  

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 16:53 | 2310719 disabledvet
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This Florida story is a big deal...and in no way do I wish to "poo-poo" what's going on down there. The underclass is truly legendary down there...especially on the African American side. Of course "you're at the mercy of logistics" when it comes to food stamps...and those prices and the cost of the program will only go higher from here. I'm still waiting for someone to show me where the cost control's are even intimated...outside of "no, I'm not paying for that" of course.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 16:55 | 2310725 tmosley
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Food stamps are buying less and less it seems.

The frog abides--for now.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 16:56 | 2310727 vic and blood
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The food stamp people should sue the government for making them obese.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 16:56 | 2310728 Boilermaker
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But, what if they sold those food stamp in a dark pool and then, in turn, invested that money in the market?

Have you even thoguth of that!??  HMMM??!?!  Have you?!!?

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:53 | 2310986 The Alarmist
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I'll take an inverse floater on your carried interest for that pool.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 16:56 | 2310729 Gamma735
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Food stamps.  A nations of dependents is a weak nation.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 19:51 | 2311285 max2205
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Umm these are gas stamps. Like cell phone stamps, rent stamps ect

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 21:48 | 2311584 boogerbently
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We could eat them.

Soylent Spoiled.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 16:59 | 2310737 Marginal Call
Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:01 | 2310749 semperfi
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My retirement plan is to get poorer to retire -  dump all of my money in Obama's lap and let him and Buffet take care of me.  And then bitch & protest when its not good enough. And form a union - The Union of Govt Wards (UGW) to get better minimal retirement benefits because after all, its owed to me just for voting Democrat. 

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:17 | 2310823 TuPhat
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I retired last week.  I think I have until next week before inflation eats up my benefits.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:03 | 2310754 The Ram
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Well, but the DOW is reaching new highs and has grown 8% in 2012!

I suppose it's great that so many people can be so distracted for so long from the 'real economy.'  I hope they live in gated communities with lots of ammo.  They are going to need it when members of the formally middle class find that their labors of a life time have brought them the right to ask for 'public services.'

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:51 | 2310979 The Alarmist
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Benny & Timmy need to ask themselves how rich food stamp / SNAP card holders feel as the markets continue to melt up along with food and fuel prices.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:03 | 2310756 swissaustrian
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poverty assistance = making people so dependent on the government that they can NEVER get out of poverty again.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:06 | 2310767 swissaustrian
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Pink slime stamps for everyone!

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:20 | 2310768 dwdollar
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Just about everyone has got their head up their ass. Look how good things are going to be from now on!!! Excuse me? The last 4 years have been one monstrous betrayal of any and every decent or good value. Keep dreaming if you think this is going to end well.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:10 | 2310788 slewie the pi-rat
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they must be using the birth-death model for stamps, now, BiCheZ!

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:13 | 2310793 Ima anal sphincter
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It's simple."If you don't want to work, you don't want to eat." My hard work is stolen to run a corrupt government, fight wars based on lies, and to "take care" of useless pukes.

I have NO problems helping the physically or (truly) mentally disabled person. That is my duty as a citizen. My money should NOT go to illegals or others who deserve NOTHING from me.

If you want a meal....come wax my car and cut my yard.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:31 | 2310892 semperfi
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DEAD-NUTS SOLUTION TO THE ILLEGAL ALIEN PROBLEM:  Grant all the illegals that bust their ass  (which is probably most of them -and they work their asses off, at least the one's I know)  FULL AMNESTY - AND AT THE SAME TIME DUMP AN EQUAL NUMBER OF LAZY ASS AMERICAN CITIZENS WHO WILLINGLY AND DEMANDINGLY LIVE OFF OF MY LABOR AND ARE NOT WORTHY OF CITIZENSHIP INTO A COUNTRY WHERE THEY WILL BE WELCOME LIKE FRANCE OR ANY OTHER GOOD SOCIALIST SHIT PIT - A simple trade for those who want to come here and bust their ass and make their lot better which makes America better, in place of those who DEMAND to live off of someone else's labor. 

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:41 | 2310908 Ima anal sphincter
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+100   Thank God for the Marines.

The people that "use" illegals need to pay their benefits. Some greedy-ass business owner gets their labor for dirt cheap. I pay the bennies.

Why is it set up this way? Blame your fucking government and the people running it.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:49 | 2310971 blunderdog
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   ...those who DEMAND to live off of someone else's labor.

Like the career military?  Last I checked, those guys are nothing but a money pit.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 18:42 | 2311138 semperfi
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Like to see you ride over a land mine blunderdick and lose an eye and a knee, and then let me know if its still a money pit.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 19:29 | 2311250 blunderdog
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Sorry, won't catch me in the military.  I apparently developed survival skills that don't depend on my willingness to volunteer to go get my dumb ass shot at and blown up, semperfuck.

Which is not to suggest I'm anti-military.  Hell, my pops is a Marine and I love and respect him.

You, unfortunately, may just be an asshole.  But don't worry, the rest of us who work productive jobs will be happy to pay for the rest of your life with your blown-up knee. 

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 20:06 | 2311320 Hedgetard55
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blunder,

 

     You are an asshole any way I look at it.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 21:17 | 2311487 blunderdog
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I salute you for your candor, sir.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 19:01 | 2311190 Jendrzejczyk
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Couldn't agree with you more. Everyone bitches about the "illegals" stealing jobs, but the fact is nobody else wants to (or has the skills to) do the hard labor performed by these immigrants.

Look at the crops rotting in the fields in the south because of the hard stand against these people.

Every one of us benefits from the cheaper costs of food, construction, etc., because these hard working people are here.

Either pay higher prices up front, or pay the associated costs for having them in the country illegally at the back end.

The price remains the same.

I work around these fine people every day, and can tell you that they are among the last people that actually produce something of value in this country.

Throw them out at your own peril.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 19:25 | 2311241 Ima anal sphincter
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I'll call BULLSHIT to this one. There was a certain Senator from California that said the same thing. I think her name ended in "stein".

Just what the fuck were "we" doing in the 60's and 70's. Seems to me that AMERICANS did the house building, hotel cleaning, dump truck driving and all the other jobs that required hard labor at that time.

WE did these jobs. AMERICANS did these jobs. AMERICANS were paid a decent wage for these jobs. Don't you ever fucking pull that line" they do the work we don't want to" shit again.

OUR FUCKING government allowed cheap labor to infiltrate and subvert what was being done by AMERICANS.

There is no threat from these people leaving RIGHT NOW.

Subtle lies Jendrzejczyk.  Are you paid for  this? Go the fuck away.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 19:40 | 2311271 blunderdog
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   AMERICANS were paid a decent wage for these jobs.

Yeah, but decent wages are BAD FOR PROFITS.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 20:12 | 2311328 Jendrzejczyk
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I understand your animosity towards my opinions. WE used to do these jobs, but we no longer do. Do I think we can do them again? Yes I do.

Do we want our children out digging ditches and picking tomatoes for $4 dollars an hour instead of sitting in an office making $100,000 a year going to meetings and pushing papers? You tell me.

I'm in the ditches next to them every day. Mine is just a view from the trenches. There aren't many other 48 year old white guys down there with me, let alone their kids.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 20:25 | 2311356 Jendrzejczyk
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As far as no threat, look a little deeper.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/oct/14/alabama-immigration-law-workers

No subtle lies, just reality.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 21:27 | 2311426 Ima anal sphincter
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Brian Cash needs to pay more CASH if he wants his tomatoes picked. Who wants to pick for $4 an hour? Illegals will do it for that. I bet if he walked into town, he could find all the workers he needs at $12. If he has to pass that cost along....so be it. I'll pay more for a tomato that isn't subsidizing illegals.

Illegal immigration screws with the "supply and demand" principle. A employer will find the cheapest labor he can. If it's illegal (but condoned by the government) he'll use them. Take that option out of the picture and he'll have to pay higher wages. (This guy let's his crop rot instead of finding workers....come-on. I put no value in the article anyway.)

I'll take it a step further. Any employer caught using illegals needs a $10K fine for each one. The second time...he spends some time in the jail. That will stop that shit. If "our" government stopped handing out freebies there would be NO jobs and NO bennies. There would be no reason for them to be here and they would leave. How frickin simple is that?????

Then of course....all the other useless pukes would have to do those jobs because the government wouldn't be handing out money to them either. Out with the illegals...in with the slugs. No loss of manpower. Skills yes, but those can be acquired quick enough.

Asshole for President 2012

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 21:47 | 2311582 Jendrzejczyk
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All of our forefathers were at one time the Wops, Chinks and Niggers that built this great country, and blamed for all that was wrong.

We have real enemies in this world, and they are not hard working people looking for a better life while building our country.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 22:40 | 2311742 Lednbrass
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What a silly and irrational generalization.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 22:46 | 2311757 Ima anal sphincter
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And I guess you're sold on those "enemies" being Muslim. Toe-the-line dude, toe-the-line. If you TRULY understood (which you don't) the real enemy is the banker. When (or if) you figure that out, we'll talk further.

You're trying to excuse today's illegal actions to those of a 100+ years ago. TOTALLY DIFFERENT.

Immigrate through the proper channels, great. Sneak in......I'll do my best to kick your ass out.

(I tried to back-off on you, but seeing as you have no clue..........keep-em coming.)

Tue, 04/03/2012 - 04:39 | 2312241 Jendrzejczyk
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We agree on who the enemy is.

Tue, 04/03/2012 - 08:43 | 2312471 Mugabe
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niiigggers didn't do a goddamn thing.....but chimp out and cry.....

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 20:08 | 2311326 itstippy
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A houseful of illegal workers live next to my Brother-In-Law.

They are the quietest, most law-abiding, most polite bunch of painters & roofers I've ever seen.  Five guys in their teens & twenties living together in a small rental house and NO FIGHTS!?!  No police calls.  They don't go to the bars on payday and get liquored up and wake up in the slammer.  They don't blow the transmission on the work truck doing power-roll-backs in residential neighborhoods.  They don't steal company tools. They don't throw trash around.

It ain't natural, I tell ya. What the Hell kinda painters & roofers act like that?

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 21:22 | 2311504 Ima anal sphincter
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A houseful of illegal workers...............and that word means what????

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 22:23 | 2311685 Lednbrass
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Throw them out as whose peril? Everyone benefits? Bullshit. And screw you.

Dont like food prices? Then get off your posterior, go outside, and grow some.  Using illegals to subsidize food prices for millions of essentilly useless urbanites who very rarely produce anything whatsoever is ridiculous.  I grow food and sell the extra at markets, its ridiculous that I have to compete with people using illegals because a bunch of soft sorry assholes in large cities feel entitled to paying a pittance for food to sustain their  carcasses. Want cheap?  Buy McDoubles and stfu.

Get a shovel and get your ass outside if you dont like it, expecting food growers to have to compete with those who employ illegal invaders so you can have things cheap is ridiculous. I spent 8 hours today in 93 degrees planting, transplanting, weeding, and preparing ground- if you dont wanna do it, quit bitching.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 22:53 | 2311785 Ima anal sphincter
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Keep shooting them Mr Bullet!! Any help with these turds is always appreciated.

My garden is looking good this year. There is nothing like fresh un-chemicalized produce. How many gardens on my street??? 3 out of (maybe) 60 houses. Pretty sorry.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 23:13 | 2311831 Lednbrass
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I think that will change in years to come, or they better be prepared to go from being gouged now to completely bent over down the road.  Food inflation has been tremendous just in the last 5 or 6 years.

And if not, thats good for me- I just rent/lease/sharecrop more land and make enough extra fiat to sock away more of my own favorite metals.

Tue, 04/03/2012 - 08:19 | 2312406 Mugabe
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that would be 95% of the roughly 13% black population ....things that make you go hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

 

AND AT THE SAME TIME DUMP AN EQUAL NUMBER OF LAZY black ASS AMERICAN CITIZENS WHO WILLINGLY AND DEMANDINGLY LIVE OFF OF MY LABOR

 

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ;) 

Tue, 04/03/2012 - 05:43 | 2312265 dolly madison
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If you want a meal....come wax my car and cut my yard.

The problem is it takes more money for rent, utilities and food than your yard cutting job pays, and there aren't enough decent jobs for everyone right now.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:13 | 2310798 Zola
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For all those of us who appreciate truth honesty hard work and just reward, the ongoing and unfolding events are gut wrenching and really sad to witness. Compounding the problems are the large number of slaves living in Plato's cave unable to imagine a world outisde their government universe.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:15 | 2310809 riphowardkatz
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What do they do with the extra money? This lady is feeding a family of four with $45 a week?

http://www.hillbillyhousewife.com/40dollarmenu.htm  

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 22:00 | 2311609 blunderdog
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A lot of folks buy things like candybars and nut mix in bulk and try to sell them on the street for a dollar a pack.  Since ya ask.

Tue, 04/03/2012 - 00:29 | 2312006 Agent P
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Selling your product above cost is a basic tenet of business.  These folks are doing nothing different then every supplier, wholesaler, distributor, or retailer in the business chain.  Their value proposition is selling convenience by bringing the product to you (should you want it).  They're trying to earn a living, so I say more power to them.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:17 | 2310820 bankonzhongguo
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None of this comes close to the trillions in Corporate Welfare in the form of Bailouts, Law Changes, Un-enforced Regulation, Tax Credits and Sole-Source Contracts.

Funny what 10 years of constant war can buy - like a Republic.

 

 

 

Tue, 04/03/2012 - 08:27 | 2312421 Mugabe
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yes all the welfare queens and baby mommas "gotta get mines yo" have been enjoying their bailouts on the 1st and 3rd for generations....still no results....that is all!

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:18 | 2310827 thursday0451
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http://quickfacts.census.gov/gfd/states/00000.htm

So... help me understand this discrepancy. Food stamps are reported to be used by 22 million households. There are 114 million households in the USA. there is an average of 2.59 people per household. By using these numbers 22 million * 2.59 = 56.98 million people in households recieving benefits from food stamps. Assuming the people on foodstamps have an average family size consistent with the rest of the population (which they may not as poorer people tend to have fewer people per household) ... doesn't this mean that listing the number of people registered for food stamps is misleading? If you're a single mom, your food stamps are registered to one person, but help feed two. So perhaps the actual number of people receiving food stamp benefits is considerably higher than the number of people registered for food stamps.

Is more thorough data on food stamp registered families available?

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:45 | 2310955 The Alarmist
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"Assuming the people on foodstamps have an average family size consistent with the rest of the population ...."

You are on the right track, but this assumption is too weak ... Anecdotal evidence suggests a higher birth rate, so the numbers are even bleaker.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 22:01 | 2311611 blunderdog
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I'd have greened ya for having the right stat.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:22 | 2310847 yogibear
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It's just a matter of wealth transfer. Take it from people who have something to those who now how work the system. Get free rent (section 8), a free cell phone (lifeline), food stamps, free healthcare  and welfare. LOL. Just how to know how to work the system comrads. Washington panders to the people

Tue, 04/03/2012 - 08:29 | 2312428 Mugabe
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yes the 13% black pop have throughly worked the system to death and are now teaching the illegals to do the same...."GOTTA GET MINES YO YO YO"

 

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:25 | 2310859 tekhneek
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This was in the Waco Tribune Herald, Waco , TX

Put me in charge . . .

Put me in charge of food stamps. I'd get rid of Lone Star cards; no cash for
Ding Dongs or Ho Ho's, just money for 50-pound bags of rice and beans,
blocks of cheese and all the powdered milk you can haul away. If you want
steak and frozen pizza, then get a job.

Put me in charge of Medicaid. The first thing I'd do is to get women
Norplant birth control implants or tubal ligations. Then, we'll test
recipients for drugs, alcohol, and nicotine and document all tattoos and
piercings. If you want to reproduce or use drugs, alcohol, smoke or get
tats and piercings, then get a job.

Put me in charge of government housing. Ever live in a military barracks?
You will maintain our property in a clean and good state of repair. Your
"home" will be subject to inspections anytime and possessions will be
inventoried. If you want a plasma TV or Xbox 360, then get a job and your
own place.

In addition, you will either present a check stub from a job each week or
you will report to a "government" job. It may be cleaning the roadways of
trash, painting and repairing public housing, whatever we find for you. We
will sell your 22 inch rims and low profile tires and your blasting stereo
and speakers and put that money toward the “common good.”

Before you write that I've violated someone's rights, realize that all of
the above is voluntary. If you want our money, accept our rules... Before
you say that this would be "demeaning" and ruin their "self esteem,"
consider that it wasn't that long ago that taking someone else's money for
doing absolutely nothing was demeaning and lowered self esteem.

If we are expected to pay for other people's mistakes we should at least
attempt to make them learn from their bad choices. The current system
rewards them for continuing to make bad choices.

AND While you are on Gov’t subsistence, you no longer can VOTE! Yes that is
correct. For you to vote would be a conflict of interest. You will
voluntarily remove yourself from voting while you are receiving a Gov’t
welfare check. If you want to vote, then get a job.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:53 | 2310988 blunderdog
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All hail il Duce!

If you want to vote, then get a job.

Sure, that's going to help a great deal.  One of big problems here in the USA is too many people voting.  (Uy.)  I guess on the bright side at least you could get all the independent contractors and "consultants" off the voting rolls.  Most lobbyists would still get a vote, of course. 

That's important.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 18:50 | 2311154 MagicHandPuppet
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This post makes me want to do Blythe. Is that wrong?

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 20:00 | 2311293 dwdollar
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Sounds like a Boomer wrote that. It's got their stink all over it. How much is Medicare and SS as a percentage of the budget again??? Notice how there's no mention of that.

A sound currency would solve all that plus corporate and banker welfare.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 21:32 | 2311538 goldfish1
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If you want to vote, then get a job.

Tell that to Diebold.

As for the rest of the inanities...clean it up from the top down.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 23:25 | 2311859 Cathartes Aura
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typical.

Put me in charge of Medicaid. The first thing I'd do is to get women
Norplant birth control implants or tubal ligations. Then, we'll test
recipients for drugs, alcohol, and nicotine and document all tattoos and
piercings. If you want to reproduce or use drugs, alcohol, smoke or get
tats and piercings, then get a job.

why not just put "women" in a cage and sell tickets to fuck 'em?  you could make some bucks that way.

a very simple *snip* for all the sperm donors tested for fatherhood - oooh, no, no one would want THAT to happen. . . best to make abortions illegal, then punish the pregnant!

simple fact:  women can only get pregnant about once a year - men can IMPREGNATE daily, and dump 'em for the next, and the next. . .

jesus wept, some folks are dumb.

 

Tue, 04/03/2012 - 00:39 | 2312023 Agent P
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"why not just put "women" in a cage and sell tickets to fuck 'em? you could make some bucks that way."

If eggs are any indication, you could make a lot more money if you didn't put them in cages...free range whores!!!

Tue, 04/03/2012 - 06:33 | 2312290 tsuki
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Is this a FEMA Camp?

Tue, 04/03/2012 - 06:33 | 2312291 tsuki
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Is this a FEMA Camp?

Tue, 04/03/2012 - 08:33 | 2312438 Mugabe
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This is what happens in BRA+BLACK RUN AMERICA...LOOK AT MOGADISHU MICHIGAN....oooops I mean Detroit Michigan....let's glorify black free ride culture ....weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Tue, 04/03/2012 - 13:29 | 2313600 blunderdog
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Current score: totalitarian fascists 18, opposition to such a society 9.

So much for ZH being populated by smart folks.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:36 | 2310911 ILikeBoats
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Does Trayvon count as a household, that is no longer on foodstamps?

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:48 | 2310966 The Alarmist
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The whole racket is like musical chairs, except that we keep adding new players (recipients) as we keep pulling out chairs (taxpayers with jobs) ... and TPTB think they can keep the music playing without end.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 20:03 | 2311310 AustriAnnie
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Exactly.  And the unemployed college graduates loaded with debt?  They are one of the fastest segments turning to food stamps.  I believe I read recently (on ZH, perhaps?) that colleges are actively signing students up through financial aid offices:

See the propaganda yourself: http://www.campusreform.org/articles/universities-encourage-students-to-...

Article states:

" Students receiving SNAP can defer their student loans while they are receiving benefits."

Tue, 04/03/2012 - 01:55 | 2312122 Freddie
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Yes - all Alinsky and Cloward/Piven.  Overload the system and destroy it.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 17:56 | 2311000 Heroic Couplet
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If you're collecting foodstamps, you should also commandeer your closest Republican politician's office and use that office--telephone, desk, fax, utilities, computers, photocopy machine, restroom facilities--to conduct your job search. Take a videocamera and record the encounter. Invite the Republican staff to call Faux Noise. Believe me, they won't want to. Republican tax cuts have been in place for over a decade. They are simply wealth that has gone into private pockets.

 

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 22:36 | 2311731 Lednbrass
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Im guessing that your tenuous grip on sanity depends entirely on a prescription bottle.

Tue, 04/03/2012 - 01:57 | 2312124 Freddie
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You are an idiot if you think any news network or any of TV is not totally corrupt.  TV is total shit and you are obviously a viewer/serf.  FAIL.   

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 18:00 | 2311013 Lady Heather...UNCLE
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If one does a bar graph on 1 week-80week simple moving averages (on S&P), its graph is identically shaped to the Food stamp one. Sio, as stocks go up, social welfare increases?...thats a positive correlation that defies logic...must be some other force exerting influence somewhere: QE perhaps?

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 18:08 | 2311045 icanhasbailout
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If you want a real eye-opening experience, show up at a 24/7 supermarket at midnight as the last day of one month ticks over into the next.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 21:34 | 2311546 goldfish1
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Modern day soup lines.

Tue, 04/03/2012 - 08:34 | 2312443 Mugabe
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yes and watch the CHIMP-OUT ensue......B.R.A.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 18:30 | 2311106 robertocarlos
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The govt gets at least 200 of the 277 back in taxes on beer, cigs, and lottery tickets. Plus it keeps me, I mean them, from rioting.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 21:41 | 2311548 goldfish1
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The govt gets at least 200 of the 277 back in taxes on beer, cigs, and lottery tickets.

bullshit.

Plus it keeps me, I mean them, from rioting.

true dat.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 21:57 | 2311605 boogerbently
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This chart shows the "cheaters" keeping the truly needy from getting adequate compensation.

We don't need less programs (and certainly not more) we need adequate supervision of existing programs.

Tue, 04/03/2012 - 01:53 | 2312114 Freddie
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Do you go in a grocery store?  I see Oba clients and parasites with shopping carts filled to the brim.  In some cases it is two carts.  There "children" run around and 90+% of them will probably never learn how to read.  Some are probably illegals. 

I also see old people walking around trying to buy about 8 to 10 things to last a week.   Food inflation is over 10% a year aka dollar devaluation.  

The truly needy can stop buying junk food and ring dings.

I can afford it but I have cut way back on my food purchases.  Generics and lower cost food.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 19:01 | 2311145 nothing can go wrogn
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It's extremely hard to imagine a happy ending to this story. I wasn't able to do so.

Though the crowds on Fifth Avenue bear witness to the intense and varied life that the great city offers, the vices, perversions, corruptions, parasitisms, and lapses of function increase disproportionately; so that Parasitopolis turns into Pathopolis, the city of mental, moral, and bodily disorders, and finally terminates in Necropolis, the City of the Dead.

~Lewis Mumford, The Pentagon of Power Volume II

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 18:58 | 2311159 John Law Lives
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Between January of 2007 and January of 2012, the US saw over 20 million added to SNAP (from 26,367,174 to 46,449,850).  That is a ~76% increase in 5 years.

http://frac.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/snapdata2012_january.pdf

 

Between April of 2008 and April of 2012, the US national debt has grown by ~$6 trillion (from ~$9.6 trillion to ~$15.6 trillion). That is a ~63% increase in 4 years.

http://www.usdebtclock.org/2008.html

http://www.usdebtclock.org/index.html

 

Between April 2, 2008 and March 28, 2012, the Fed's balance sheet grew by ~$2 trillion (from ~$885.4 billion to ~$2.880 trillion). That is a ~225% increase in just under 4 years.

http://www.federalreserve.gov/monetarypolicy/bst_recenttrends.htm

 

Wow.  That sounds like a real recovery... in Bizarro World...

 

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 19:04 | 2311198 Stax Edwards
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Krugman must be so proud

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 21:54 | 2311596 boogerbently
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That's Bush's fault, too. LOL

This trumped up Trayvonn thing giving all the negroes a chance to wave their "race" flag high.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 18:57 | 2311175 ZeroPoint
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It's free - swipe yo' EBT!:  http://youtu.be/NzspsovNvII

 

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 22:27 | 2311696 dollarbill
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food stamp and farm subsidy law expires 10-1-2012.........our version of Greek riots begin soon after

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 22:50 | 2311777 Lednbrass
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I certainly hope so.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 23:41 | 2311908 Clowns to the l...
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The number of individuals may have leveled off but the number of participating households increased.

http://www.fns.usda.gov/pd/34SNAPmonthly.htm

Participation and costs going back to '69. Note how it rises with recessions than gradually declines during recoveries. Until you get to the last ten years of course. Notice how the numbers continued to rise during the housing bubble faux recovery after the dot com bubble went kablooey.

http://www.fns.usda.gov/pd/SNAPsummary.htm

Tue, 04/03/2012 - 05:48 | 2312270 dolly madison
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I like food stamps.  What would be okay to get rid of is the money paid out to everyone whether they need it or not.  So, I would like to see food stamps continue and social security become need based.  That would save a lot of money right there.

If the people had access to land to grow food for themselves, I would be okay with getting rid of foodstamps, but not before.  It's just not fair to disallow a man from growing food for himself because of the property laws of this land, and then not have a safety net for when there are not enough jobs.

Tue, 04/03/2012 - 06:53 | 2312306 Sathington Willougby
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^ Obama speech writer here ^

here we go again, another wacky argument against property rights tooled to trim the mark.

http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3olxdz/

Tue, 04/03/2012 - 06:13 | 2312278 I should be working
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Clearly food stamp use is positively correlated with the S&P 500, this is bullish.

Tue, 04/03/2012 - 06:43 | 2312299 Sathington Willougby
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Don't call it a setback, it's been a cheer for years.

Tue, 04/03/2012 - 08:49 | 2312478 Mugabe
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ok i'm going down to Mickey D's now with my EBT and buy breakfast anyone want to join me it's on you.....I mean me ...ooops lmfao!

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