Forget 'A Winter Of Discontent', Israel's Eisenberg Sees 'Winter Of Radical Islam'
As if we didn't have enough to worry about with sovereign shenanigans in Europe, which bridges to build in the US, and a slowing China, Israel's top-brass now fears a winter of radical Islam, an increase in the chance of a multi-front war, and notes Hamas using a new advanced rocket (perhaps this will be the bazooka that Trichet borrows?).
From JPost.com, Home Front Command warns of looming multi-front war
Maj.-Gen. Eisenberg reveals that Hamas used new advanced rocket in most recent attacks against Israel.
Noting an increase in the chance for a multi-front war, OC Home Front Command Maj.-Gen. Eyal Eisenberg revealed on Monday that Palestinian terror groups used a new and advanced rocket in their attacks against Israel during the recent round of fighting in the Gaza Strip.
“After the ‘Arab Spring’, we assess that a winter of radical Islam will arrive and as a result the possibility for a multi-front war has increased including the potential use of weapons of mass destruction,” Eisenberg said during a conference on the Home Front at the Institute for National Security Studies in Tel Aviv.
Eisenberg revealed that during the recent round of fighting between Israel and Palestinian terror groups in the Gaza Strip, a new weapon was fired into Israel. “We discovered a new weapon and as a result we instructed the public to take extra precautions and to seek cover under two roofs and not just one,” Eisenberg said.
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WE don't have anything to worry about.
neither do THEY.
unless by "they" you are referring the Palestinian women and children, inconveniently occupying what is left of Palestinian land following waves of illegal colonization...
Not exactly. By THEY I mean Isr.ael. Not the few Palestinians left out there.
I have a question: What do we Americans have to gain from our alliance with Israel?
They test weapons for us, and give us good data on how a well-armed and disciplined military can maintain control over a much larger urban population.
[Obama's Voice] Oh, good! Carry on.
probably not much. its possible that israels nuclear arsenal has kept iran and the arab states at bay, but much more probable its the billions of u.s. dollars that has kept the peace.
Just spent the last 10 minutes reading though all the vile, right-wing bigotry in the comments section here - lots and lots of super-pigs online tonight.
It appears this place is far more infested with right-wing varmints than I originally estimated......got a lot of work ahead of me.
Despair....
Jack Van Impe, is that you?
hahaha. That show was a riot.
Where's Rexella?
10 mins to read around 10 posts. Seems to confirm you're a pretty slow mind lol. But for a change, you might give an argument to discredit the people you dislike so much... in 30 min or so, we are not in a hurry, take your time !
What we gain? Israel is much better than we are at spying on Islamic terrorists, which we should all agree is a good skill to have. They also probably have some insights into dealing directly with Islamic terrorists which we should probably listen to. I'm sure there's more.
Why an ally? Our cultural ties are much stronger: The US (the Christian portion in general) shares with Israel in ignoring pages upon pages of life destroying garbage in the Old Testament (e.g. much of Leviticus, Deuteronomy) while Christians ignore much of the same type garbage in the New Testament. We all hold on to the good stuff from these old texts, which is a good thing. This wasn't always the case throughout the last 2,000 years...
Anyway, in contrast, Islam still recognizes as legitimate religion much of the barbarism you can easily find by opening almost any page of the koran. Get a copy of read the jaw-dropping hatred for yourself. This "culture" is still a few hundred years behind us. And we should do all we can to avoid being victimized by their growing pains (e.g. ally with Israel).
The Israelis blew up the United State's most sophisticated surveillance ship, the USS Liberty, in 1967. Thirty four American sailors were killed and over a hundred were injured.
Israel is hardly an American ally.
HEY CROCKETT, IS IT JUST ME, OR DID THE ZH FIGHT CLUB TURN INTO THE ULTIMATE DEATH MATCH ON THIS POST. MAN, I HAVENT SEEN THIS MUCH FIGHTING SINCE DESERT STORM...WELL, GOTTA GO...
INCOMING......BITCHEZ
X. The Middle East threads bring out the most junking and and shreaking around. I suggest you revert back to thinking from your ex-emplyers and do the below before entering a Middle East thread. You must be properly prepared!
1) Bring your AR with at least 4 loaded clips, as well as you 9 mm w/ same
2) High tolerance to being junked
3) Body armor optional but recommended
4) A love of battle is highly recommended
5) Be careful of chumbawamba! The Bearing was sliced to pieces by him once!
LOL, you rock, bro,
incoming green. HA,HA,HA,
Wouldn't a Galil would be more fitting? :p Anyway, AR's have a greater tendency to jam up under these circumstances....
Dunno, man. Just woke up and the fur was flying. I've got a little different frame of reference though -- worst fighting I've seen since the big fist fight with Robbie Love at the bus stop in 8th grade (circa 1978).
KEEP YOUR HEAD DOWN, BRO. AND KEEP YOUR ASS LOWER THEN YOUR HEAD....
fuck you asshole!
Or maybe USA should dump Israel on the curb, wish em well and say you're on your own.
We never had issues with the middle east until they got in bed with Israel.
Oh, they have oil? So what, that's all they have in the desert and need to sell it to buy anything else.
WWII they weren't on our side and haven't really changed their thinking...I've lived and travelled through all of those Gulf States (except Iran, not Arabs anyway)...the number of times I've heard "Hitler was right" from them after a few drinks...Hill & Knowlton have a lot to answer for.
Christians see Jezus as the son of god, Muslims see Jezus as a prohet, Jews deny Jezus.
Who's culture is closer toghether based on religion...
The Koran is based on Judaism and Christianity and is a religion of peace/violence as much as Judaism or Christianity.
It all comes down to the individual - as always - and there will always be haters and bridge-builders.
Who are you?
PS Jews and Muslims lived in peace for over a 1000 of years. Why? Common religional base. And? Jews can charge interest on loans, Muslims cannot. Symbiotic economic relationship broken by UK/US after WW2.
All the folks who might be behind on their real history need to take a good hard look at this artice, see the embedded video:
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/09/05/the-german-reich-exists/
Now perhaps you can begin to understand how the myth of Israel was created and has been kept alive.
Most people here seem to be shooting from the hip or being simply dramatic about an issue they have no idea about except what they were "taught" to believe.
Sure, Israel the nation-state is an abomination. But them poor israelis? Just more dumb sheep. Mostly shipped over from around the world after due indoctrination.
Know your history to understand your present.
V
http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2011/09/05/water-branding-and-thoughts/
i'm assuming you are an american (unfortunately) unless you are a native american you must be an illegal colonist
two wrongs equals....?
two wrongs make you a hypocrite. if you are going to criticize colonization, find out where your people came from, and go back.
if you are going to sit here and bitch about imperialism and blah blah blah while you do the same, shut the fuck up.
you have probs with israel, fine, just don't spew this tripe like you give a fuck about indigenous people.
Breach Of Covenant
I've been saying that backing socialism is a breach for a long time, but do 70% of 'em agree with me? NOOOOO.
Shorter Rodent: I'm sucking Rick Perry's dick as hard as I can!
Stay classy.
It's fascism not socialism.
Where do I go? My fathers side came on the Mayflower and well, my mothers side was already here.
You'll be in a FEMA camp sooner or later because it's not where you're from it's which class you belong to and if you're not a Kleptocrat...well get used to cold cement floors.
People have problems with Israel mainly BECAUSE of Israel's treatment of the indigenous people.
The American whites' treatment of the native Americans was appalling, but is not analogous with the situation in Palestine because the latter occurred during living memory. There has to be some kind of statute of limitations on these grievances. Otherwise... why would the Jews have a claim to Israel at all? They took the land from the Canaanites, after all.
BigJim,
Colonization, has gone on since man came into being.
Britain, Spain, etc,etc,etc, Europeans, all settled sparse new lands..............
You need to take off the blinders, and look around.
The Israelites took the land fromn Cannanites because GOD told them to do so.
It's a personal choice to believe, or disbelieve that, or any other story,religion.
It is what it is, we can't change it, and last I checked way back when, whoever was the victor got the spoils.
Only We beleieve in destroying ourselves in misadventures in this century claiming we want Democracy for all.(when we really are enslaving the entire planet).
When we do not even have the same freedoms we were guaranteed over 235yrs ago, and lose more daily.
Yet we are EXPECTED to believe WE are the GOOD GUY's.(when I say We, you know who I mean).
Whatever anyone thinks about Israel, Israel's central commitment to an ethnocratic majority-Jewish state is very expensive, and means they tax the wages and lives of the Israeli people.
Just like American foreign policy, all these walls, wars and ethnic cleansing will bankrupt them.
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Who gives a shit about a fascist scumbag country like Isreal?
The 700 club? The entire tele-evangelist nation. Joe Biden. Anyone who's ALLOWED to work in government military or law enforcement without getting a dump truck of shit on his head.
It is what it is, we can't change it, and last I checked way back when, whoever was the victor got the spoils.
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So what is this site for? Bankers, the US elite as US citizens call them have won and they are taking their due.
So what?
No more blame laid on bankers, the elite or anyone who is currently winning and getting the spoils.
No, I am kidding. US citizens nature is eternal and it wont be long before I catch you whining against people who are currently winning the game.
US citizens can not self limit, they have no control, they are failing at governing themselves so lets have some fun.
doing god's work!
The Synagogue of Satan By Andrew Carrington HitchcockGo back far enough and no one is indigenous. Or, are you talking about the group of people that happen to occupy a certain territory (usually having ran off the prior inhabitants by force) at a specific point in time? Under your argument we are all either indigenous, or should 'shut the fuck up' and 'go back'. Native Americans are gonna have a hard time getting back to Asia...
PS....maybe the 'indigenous' should have fought harder?
One can only agree that whoever wins is the winner. How sordid to watch the winners' wives and pool boys hand back the spoils via the voting booth, desiring poverty and enslavement by the revanchists, if only they could be free of their guilt, which guilt they only feel because they have so much f'g time to sit around ruiminating while they eat on someone else's dime. How California. How NYC. What a cheap (in the moment) thrill at such an inevitably high price. Yes, being invaded and overwhelmed isn't pleasant. However, if the invaded were not at each other's throats and completely lacking in solidarity, it never would have happened, whether in regard to the US indian tribes or arab tribes. Has it changed? No. And now, in the US, the shoe is on the other foot, the worm has turned. The corporate guys like the cheap labor. The non-corporate guys are either asleep or hoping that somehow their civil service pension will pan out. Wars are fought for land and for political hegemony in that land, and they are usually bloody and expensive. I suppose the lesson is that the winners heirs tend to get soft, and tend to ignore history and think that softness will lead them to a guilt-free prosperity, trading guilty for bitter oppression. Makes me laugh, actually. Get soft, get poor. Give people various forms of tenure in the civil service and universities? They'll begin to ignore realpolitik and start advocating and voting to impoversh their own people, oblivious to the effects of their actions, acting purely on "ethical" grounds, which usually translates as acting blindly in some other group's interest merely to make themselves, in their ruminations, more comfortable.
it means "nonwhite people." White people are always invaders and nonwhites are always noble peace loving indigenous peoples.
Son, I am really sorry for smoking all that crack while pregnant with you. Please accept my apologies.
Go back far enough and no one is indigenous.
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Go back far enough on what? based on what?
That US citizens are not indigenous to the Americas is well documentated and an unarguable fact in a non US citizenish framework.
Please provide evidences that Euskadi is not peopled by descendents of indigenous people. Gonna get a laughter on that.
US citizens are funny people.
Is that you, Mo? Ron?
Personally, I was born here.
That alone makes me INDIGENOUS, by definition, right?
WTF U talking 'bout, Willis?
"US citizens are funny people."
AnAnonymASS is a fudge packed ASShole.
Alienated Serf ,
First off.. I +'s You.
2nd.. You have been here long enough that I know you mean well.. so even if you had a bad day I would give you the benefit of the doubt.
3rd.. You struck a nerve by telling all these wanna bes the truth, carry on.
lastly.. you should know that in America the Truth is NOT! Welcome! just the Spin that makes people feel good! these are some highly trained sheep you are trying to educate / convert.. dont forget you are fighting DECADES of Programing.. that they LIKE!! and Wanted to Hear!! over and over again.
Much Luv to You and Yours! Stay Strong Borhter! Fight the Power!!
JDUB
P.S. the asshole shtick is mine.. so dont get carried away.
LOL! +1
then the native americans need to go back to Mongolia
Why not back to Africa in this regard?
Funny US citizens, can not admit that they are not indigenous to the Americas and in return, wish every other people on Earth are not indigenous.
Duh.
I was born here, therefore I am indigenous, by definition.
Unless you don't speak English?
Matters not whether I'm White, Red, Mixed, or Other.
(As a matter of fact, I fit each and every one of those descriptions - in one human being.)
Again, WTF U talkin' 'bout, Willis?
Just trying to divide??
And native americans also need to apologize for wiping out the ancient tribes of mound builders.
Can't go back. Country hasn't existed for 15 centuries, and the current inhabitants aren't necessarily people I want as neighbors.
Was that an ad hominem attack or a strawman argument? It's too early for this; I'm confused...
Do you see the Israelis shooting rockets into Europe after they had all of their land, assets and lives taken away during and after the second world war ?
2 wrongs = justice
Why shoot rockets into your cash cow. Europe has paid 20 times over since then, returning assets that had been stolen from them in the first place.
Fuck you Europe did. The Jews were even kicked to the curb by the Catholic church after the war.
What were they doing in the Catholic church? Explain.
Sol has evaluated your pussy question and evaluated that you have failed. Cas, therefore sentences you to 3 months of self-criticism.
Better luck next time, child.
- Ned
if the whole world doesn't like you, maybe it is YOU and not everybody else, that is the problem?
3 times is enemy action:
109 Locations whence Jews have been Expelled since AD250What could be the reason that they have been expelled from towns and villages who had limited if not any access at all to the other locations? What could of caused them to be so hated? Could it be usury? The believing you are chosen and the gentiles are swine? I read a funny explanation for Jews being in finance. The explanation was that trade guilds would not let them in so the only occupation they could get was to be a banker. So let me get this straight, we refuse to let them be poor peasants like us so we'll let them control our finances? Right. Makes all the sense in the world to me. Not.
so very true....and even then the jews wanted to take the swiss national gold...until the swiss people said no. said no so loud that it wasn't even brought up for a national vote. no elected offical would place it on the ballot. and still we have the commercials for donations to the "survivors" on t.v. to this day...talk about an industry.
final dot.
It's all a matter of timing. When they are ever about to go down in flames, you can reckon some of their 400+ WMD will be reserved for some EU capitals.
Spitzer's ignorant. Zionists, Nazis hand-in-glove: BOE financed 3rd Reich, then Brit Zionists (via stooge Churchill) forced World War, Round II, because Hitler's threat (publically, 4 times) to "do the jews" if his Drang Nach Osten got backstabbed by Brits was music to their ears. Traded-off a few million dead non-Zionist Jews for Jew-state in Palestine. When Brit Empire collapsed postwar, ZOGsters moved their ops to America and now rule world therefrom. But not for much longer, Spitzer....
13 greens for that ^= 13 people that are doing too much LSD
antisemites and jewish zionists, pay attention, you are decieved: "It has been the age-old intention of Zionism to intentionally stir up anti-Semitism anywhere possible, and even more commonly, to take advantage of any Jewish suffering anywhere in order to enhance its cause Indeed, hatred of Jews and Jewish suffering is the oxygen of the Zionist movement, and from the very beginning has been to deliberately incite hatred of the Jew and then, in feigned horror, use it to justify the existence of the Zionist state – this is, of course, Machiavellianism raised to the highest degree. Thus, the Zionists thrive on hatred and suffering of Jews, and seek to benefit thereby through keeping Jews in perpetual fear, causing them to ignore the true nature of Zionism, and instead to consider the Zionist state is their salvation."
“It is essential that the sufferings of Jews. . . become worse. . . this will assist in realization of our plans. . .I have an excellent idea. . . I shall induce anti-semites to liquidate Jewish wealth. . . The anti-semites will assist us thereby in that they will strengthen the persecution and oppression of Jews. The anti-semites shall be our best friends”. (From his Diary, Part I, pp. 16) -Theodor Herzl, founder of Zionism.
read more: http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/zionism/zanda.cfm
If Jews ran this country I promise you that we wouldn't be broke.
This is quite possibly the most hilarious comment I have ever read.
Remember, we are supposed to be smarter. Although on this board that is not so hard.
Your ilk voted for Obam the muslim and you still overwhelmingly support him. How smart can you be?
I love the local father and son broker team on the radio. They love Obama too and they are real typical goyim haters. They get calls from fellow Jews asking for stock advice. They tell them how great Obama's GM is plus Citicorp and Bank America.
It is funny and also sad listening them wipe these people out financially with their Obama love. Smart - yeah smart. Smart like Madoff taking his fellow Jews to the cleaners.
IF Jews ran this country...?
You mean if they ran it out in the open, not via subversion?
i don't think it would make a difference. They would still siphon off tax dollars for themselves and their cronies.
The Rothschilds own the Federal Reserve through their member banks and therefore own the country. Just ask them.
Hmm.. Maybe the country is broke but the Jews IN the country are not.. Not such a stretch..
They do and we are.
jews aren't broke...what's the average net worth, 500k? Jews don't run this country for its benefit, they do it for the benefit of themselves and their cousins. It's not THEIR nation.
I guess 300,000 people protesting in Israel just is dandy hand holding happiness then? Must be money flowing out to the people they are marching in the streets in love of their state.
Israeli protests: 430,000 take to streets to demand social justice
Up to 300,000 take part in Tel Aviv, 50,000 in Jerusalem and 40,000 in Haifa in Israel's biggest ever demonstration
"Hundreds of thousands of Israelis took to the streets on Saturday night in Israel's biggest ever demonstration to demand social justice, a lower cost of living and a clear government response to the concerns of an increasingly squeezed middle class."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/sep/04/israel-protests-social-justi...
I think that is the 4th march in the past 2 months too...
No shit. Does anyone even know the name of the Jewish currency?
I dont either. I suppose it's better to build Ponza schemes with other nations money then your own.
Who runs this country???? Let's take a quick glance:
WASP's...nope.
African Americans...sorry, not.
Asians...wrong again.
Hispanics...er, I don't think so.
Irishmen...comic relief.
Native Americans... sorry, I'm a kidder.
Hmmmm....I wonder WHO runs this country?
They don't already?
British Zionists? You mean the people the Israelis were rebelling against in 1947 or 1948? How stupid are you people with AIDS or Anti Israel Derangement Syndrome? I guess I'll find out.
i thought the jews were fighting back the arab hordes in 1947 and 1948 to establish israel? the british by that time were in retreat back to their broke country. yea i am pretty sure that is what i was taught growing up in the 50s and 60s. you know along with all their crap about israeli communes, you know like that pinko commie commune shit. also along with all that hippie shit commie commune crap also. the lessons of the "frankfurt school" come to mind.
Explained so even Frostfan can understand: Zionist-stooge Churchill and the Brit ZOGsters lost the '45 election. Churchill replaced by Atlee and a Labor Party which - then - was still genuinely Leftist and opposed to Jewish racial nationalism. Thus the Brit attempt - too late - to interrupt formation of Israel. Meanwhile (1947-48) ZOGsters moved their $$$ to US, bought Truman & Democrat Party in time for UN vote on Palestine partition, and the rest you know. Republican Party, via neo-con infestation and $$$, is a more recent Zionist acquisition.