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Former Defense Secretary Says US Will Probably Enforce "No Fly Zone", "Take Aggressive Action" Over Syria
Three months to the election? Check. Which means war-mongering rhetoric, once considered a staple of the GOP, may very soon become action, first in Syria, and soon, everywhere else. From Bloomberg: "The U.S. and allied forces probably will impose a “no-fly zone” over Syria and take other “more aggressive action” against the Syrian regime, former Defense Secretary William Cohen said. While the U.S. has been leery of another military intervention after a decade of wars, “We’re coming to the point, however, where the violence is getting so severe, I think, that you’ll see a movement towards setting up those no- fly zones,” Cohen said on Bloomberg Television’s “Political Capital with Al Hunt” airing this weekend." Is war and immediate geopolitical escalation guaranteed? Not yet: "The former Pentagon chief and Maine senator, now chairman and chief executive officer of the Cohen Group consulting firm in Washington, said any U.S. military action would depend on participation and support from allies." Although desperate times, and by that we mean unfavorably trending popularity ranking, will certainly require desperate measures. Such as the continued massive build up of US naval assets in the middle east.
More from Bloomberg:
"I think that the United States is not going to go into this alone," said Cohen, who served as defense secretary during the NATO air strikes in the Kosovo conflict during the Clinton administration. "That’s why we’ve been working with the Gulf states."
John Brennan, President Barack Obama’s top homeland security and counterterrorism adviser, said on Aug. 8 the administration is studying the option of a no-fly zone with air protection “very carefully, trying to understand the implications, trying to understand the advantages and disadvantages of this.”
Cohen, a Republican, also criticized the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, Mitt Romney, for promising to issue an executive order on his first day in office labeling China a currency manipulator.
Then there is Iran. And Israel:
On Iran, Cohen said the odds are increasing that Israel will strike the Islamic regime's nuclear facilities to prevent the Persian Gulf state from being able to produce a nuclear bomb.
“I would say it’s a little bit better than 50-50 that the Israelis would take action,” Cohen said. “The rhetoric is starting to get ratcheted up,” he said, though the sharp language may be a “tactical” move to pressure Russia and China to sanction Iran.
Which they won't as both see Iran, as well as Syria, precisely as the fulcrum points in an anti-US/Israel axis. And from there, where the escalation takes us, is anybody's guess.
The good news is that if and when Syria is finally "liberated", following what is sure to be a barrage of daily media propaganda including the gratuitous includsion of "weapons of mass destruction" for old time's sake, when brent and crude soar to new record highs, at least the market can be finally assured that no QE will be coming any time soon. Or not so soon.
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There are allegations of market manipulation involving zerohedge:
http://gross-law.com/dalrymple.pdf
Can you give us some color on the situation?
ZH is not a defendant in the lawsuit. From the Complaint:
"202. While zerohedge.com has been the subject of harsh criticism for its practice of anonymously spreading dirt concerning public companies and individuals, the site gets substantial traffic and gained a measure of credibility regarding stories concerning Goldman Sachs that it broke in 2009, about which Dalrymple wrote a flattering article on seekingalpha.com the day after its publication. Thus, the site presented Defendants and their coconspirators a useful channel for distribution of their false and misleading information concerning the Company."
Translation -- too much truth passes through these intertubes.
May be a little truth to it, questioning the overlord gets you banned:
http://www.zerohedge.com/users/veyron
And he got brought back, didn't even say anything about edomites and such....
2'nd request to ZH. Zip up your DB and let us import..
Tr: ZOG is very unhappy with ZH. And other large chunks of the 'net.
Guess I touched a nerve, too, should check my e-mail more often:
Censorship at its finest.
You forgot the first rule about fight club... you liberal progressive occupy maggot.
You couldn't pull a rag out of Ayn Rand
You Didn't Build that Roark, sez Prez, Someone else made that happen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-9jE3pj_60
"You couldn't pull a rag out of Ayn Rand."
Interesting analogy. I pulled you out of Ayn Rand's ass where your nose lives, assfire. Fuck you.
Domestic Enemy.
Okay, McCarthy.
Yes...Senator Joe not only exposed the Reds infesting the Rosenfelt-Truman Regime, he exposed the shabbatz goy libs protecting them. Scum like you.
Small something syndrome with all of the bold?
You fucking stupid Cunt, you remind me of the Black Knight. No arms or legs but you keep on...
I think I saw an episode of "Cops" when I was a kid, where the trailer trash said "you fucking stupid Cunt" to his equally eloquent spouse. Nicely done, and nicely argued.
Any woman that would slum with the 'engineer' (maybe model trains?) above is, by definition,...
It's so I can go back a day or so later, easily find them, and make copies of my bursts of wisdom, including all greens and junks. Eventually - after my acession to power, which is as inevitable as the Rising of the Sun - all will be published in a multi-volume set titled "Compassionate Fascist: the Collected Comments".
Huh? All he did was respond to and correct someone's statement... even took the time to go through that PDF.
A cursory read of this frivolous lawsuit (which on top of everything is based on unvalidated, incorrect and libelous statements regarding Zero Hedge) filed by an anonymous entity operating out of a Gibraltar shell company alleges that a research report which was posted on Zero Hedge authored by a third party, warned that a company called Gerova Financial was a fraud.
Months later Gerova filed for bankruptcy after it was exposed as a fraud by the market. This can be easily confirmed by anyone with access to google and a basic understanding of finance. For the lazy ones, links are here and here. Because one thing that this idiotic lawsuit did not mention is the following:
The subsequent class actions lawsuits against the fraudulent company came quickly:
Of course, none of the actual facts were mentioned in the lawsuit.
The unnamed Gibraltar shell company lost money since it, like John Paulson with SinoForest, did no diligence of its own, and experienced a full loss on its investment. As a result they are desperate to scapegoat anyone for their complete lack of financial insight, analysis, and laziness and thus loss of credibility with their own investors.
Anyone who read the report and acted accordingly was able to save their money.
Of course, since Zero Hedge merely served as the venue through which a wider number of people would be warned, you probably should direct your question to the actual defendant who did a service to anyone who took him or her seriously and pulled their money out of this subsequently confirmed fraud of a company.
Is that sufficient color? Or are you still trying to prove that Goldman Sachs is the owner of Zero Hedge?
Thanks Tyler
If CNBC did a pump and dump scheme (like they did with Facebook) you'd be on them like white on rice. And the fact that you banned me is disconcerting to say the least.
This is the perfect opportunity to pen an article discussing what constitutes a hit job / pump&dump and what constitutes a legitimate line of questioning regarding a company's performance.
P.S.: This is one of the first google entries for ABC Media.
You were banned which is why you are commenting on zero hedge? Furthermore, to most who frequent this website it is quite clear what constitutes actionable, fact-based, and validatable information and what is a pump and dump, which simply provides an opportunity for a company to buy back its stock at a huge discount and generate a substantial return on equity.
Uh, oh, he went there....
Another user noticed this UP Forester: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/former-defense-secretary-says-us-will-prob...
Then I got this email: http://cl.ly/image/1H3B0V0v1K2O
Well that is most interesting... I detect post edits to in this thread.
At least three actually and these are edits post response, so I think I am saying that the edited posts are not from the users.
thank goodness!
the NSA! we're fuking saved!
don't you people have any drugs? here! :> J. Edgar Hoover 1972
tyler, another drink?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_V6z0OxuAzY
"Honey, they're in everybody's eggs." - General Curtis Goatheart
Wow, I wish I could use a time machine to edit some of my comments....
Start a blog that hundreds of thousands of people read every day, and you too can use a "time machine" to edit your own content. You sound like a welfare queen bitching about the EBT card that doesn't work when you want to buy cigarettes.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
2x right CF!
I don't understand. My digital just has a blank screen?
replace the batteries, pleaseeeee. ;p
Depends how it's broken.
For example, a clock sweeping backwards at a high rate may actually coincide with the correct time several times during each day (digital or analog).
...sweeping backwards at a high rate..."
Are we in the Twilight Zone?
Oh, we are.
Forget the EBT, forget the smokes and forget the entire process of enslaving the very ones who try to stand and protest.
I gave up smoking cold turkey a decade ago trying to get fit to be able to walk more than a half mile. I am a cold basted and a happy one now that I am not spending 4 bucks a pack instead of 4 bucks for three per day.
I do worry that there are a great many eyes that glow around this small Campfire known as ZH that will like nothing more than to devour each and everyone one of us, along with the Free internet to plunge a entire society into blindness.
That day may yet come, but not before trying to sort the comments, discarding the chaff and keeping the few good wheat.
Slow down fellas. No need to go all Tin Hat like us Gold Clowns around here. :o)
Edit? Tyler gave you more info, not less.
Very interesting.
The original was
"You were banned which is why you are commenting on zero hedge? "
other stuff was added later
Lets be fair here, the truth is that vey is correct, that reply he refers to was changed, as well as several others.
I'm not taking sides, but what is your point?
Google pointed to this lawsuit first under ABC Media LTD. I wanted to give tyler a fair chance to reply.
"Can you give us some color on the situation?"
I didn't come out saying that he was wrong. I wanted to give him a genuine chance to clarify. The subsequent response (including banning) seemed suspicious, and I think a few other readers noticed this as well ...I'm late to this but I'm not seeing any "banning" here...maybe you should clarify...?
What, exactly is suspicious?
During a five minute period, I was banned. my user page http://www.zerohedge.com/users/veyron said "Access Denied"
A few users noticed it and someone made a comment that questioning ZH gets people banned. Tyler quickly reversed it and I posted a screenshot showing that it was reversed.
I asked what I thought was a legitimate question without any preconceived notion. I was googling for ABC Media LTD and this came up. An honest response by Tyler would be an eloquent description of what happened. Instead his reaction was petty.
When people question CNBC, we boo when they try to blow off the question. We should be better than them.
"During a five minute period, I was banned. my user page http://www.zerohedge.com/users/veyron said "Access Denied"
All that means (as I understand it) is someone is about to respond to you...so you can't edit that comment...its locked.
You are not banned now...so, that means not banned to most people.
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As an aside...Tyler has a right to ban anyone from his property...including me (they say so) for any reason or none at all.
Its an age old concept...my house, my rules.
If it were me, I may well have banned a bunch of posters...Grand Super Cycle and other obvious hacks and virus spreaders...so I think its a testament to his/their free speech that they don't... they leave it up to free will.
Sayin...its found here;
It would be very wise of you to study our disclaimer, our privacy policy and our (non)policy on conflicts / full disclosure.
I just punched myself in the face because I agree with you. Fortunately, my self-loathing was tempered by the irritation of seeing all of your bold font words which are completely unnecessary to make your point in such a short post. [edit -- your post was a lot shorter before you edited it and added several paragraphs while I was typing. I just punched myself again for taking so long typing my response]
You'll be glad to know I gave myself a bloody nose having to give you a greenie up top.
Pass the tissue ;-)
I just came to after punching myself again because of the winking. Greenie anyway. Back to the Vodka.
some fucking cunt donalika my abold a printa?
TOO FUCKING BAD CUNT
Someone has self-esteem issues.
Projection is similiar to a Freudian slip
Projection? Freud? You have it down.
Ditto.
I was explicitly banned.
If your theory was correct I would not have received this email: http://cl.ly/image/1H3B0V0v1K2O
Now I get it...
One of the Tylers is on his period
Proof that Tyler is a person(s) not an algo...with feelings, emotions, a sense of honor, right and wrong? Alternately, who's to say you didn't cancel your own account and re-open it?
Not saying you did or didn't cancel...I'm saying, if he wanted you gone, we wouldn't be talking now.
So its a moot point, as we are.
Banned for 5 min. OMG how did you recover from this devastating incident. You have single handedly discredited ZH, and now everybody will stop reading and commenting on ZH forever.
Maybe you're just an asshole. [shrug] It happens.
his user page was blocked, not a comment
i think s/he got a 5 min time out
at least tyler didn't start junking him
tyler puts up with a lot, but i think he knocked off one of my clonies who put up a photoshop of cabinet & top judicial blowjobs which was pretty good, warts & all
or, v_n mighta run into lizzy just b4 ... ?
Not that I would not be EXTREMELY upset if I got banned from this site (it's a great outlet and I enjoy it very much), but this is a private site. Free market. If Tyler decides he doesn't like me, I'm out. Or are you suggesting we should form a poster union?
i didn't suggest anything you shitheaded moron
Could be.
But thats the kind of shit I'm talking about slewie...the clones, pimps and hacks...he/they show a lot more restraint than I would...really, I'm not pandering here.
The dude that was ghosting you was one that I would have tossed without reservation or explanation...just poof, gone...just the way he showed up...why expalin or justify an action on an obvious fraud?
I have deep respect for him/them for the leeway on the principle of free speech...the minority of opinion must be protected at all costs but its not to say I would let fakes and frauds (like fake slewie) have a voice at all.
I really don't need to listen to a Jeffery Dahmer or a Warren Buffet in an obvious disguise, if you get my drift.
A frivolous lawsuit was launched in California 8 months ago. It was dismissed 4 months ago.
ZH was named as a co-conspirator for merely posting the excellent work of a 3rd party who exposed a shell company for the fraud it was.
The shock shouldn't be that ZH was named as a co-conspirator the shock should be that it isn't named on a daily basis.
Is there any allegation that Tyler or ZH somehow benefited from posting the research? NO there is not. But for the posting would Gerova have NOT been a complete fraud? NO.
So if one actually read the Statement of Claim, googled the Lawyer who filed it, one would have concluded it was completely without merit, and should be dismissed with costs.
Instead Tyler, tolerated your inability to do your own due diligence and led you by the nose to the evidence necessary for you to conclude that the allegations are without merit.
Instead of thanking him, you act like a snot nosed entitled kid. If you were given a 5 minute time out you deserved it. Now take you lumps like a man and drive on.
I will also take this opportunity to remind you, this is the house of Zerohedge. Their house, their rules. If you don't like it find a different house.
Veyron is taking it up with his Union in the morning. So watch out. Fucking irony.
i knew it was you!
pms right?
The crystal clock that drives the universe in synchrony, I'm tellin' ya.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuNmXb5odUw
In fact the lawsuit was transferred to NYC.
"Instead of thanking him, you act like a snot nosed entitled kid. If you were given a 5 minute time out you deserved it. Now take you lumps like a man and drive on.
I will also take this opportunity to remind you, this is the house of Zerohedge. Their house, their rules. If you don't like it find a different house."
Your words betray you. How would you like to be black balled for posting the truth instead of Fight Club folly? Oh.
If ZH is to prosper, TD and Company will take the high road and stick with facts, not smears...
You're an idiot who doesn't understand the basic mechanics of the website on which you were posting and your trolling is the only pettiness I detect in the vicinity.
You don't know what you're talking about.
Take another look at the evidence before hiding behind name-calling.
America and ZH success are about fair play...
That is a very fair question Veyron
I just spent half of my Friday evening reading the 98 page complaint. About half of the complaint is repeated over and over again and there are numerous spelling and grammatical errors. As I read the complaint I began to wonder if I was being Rick-Rolled ZH style. Aside from that major annoyance and waste of time, the case presented seems to built on circumstantial evidence. There are also jurisdictional issues. If the Tylers gamed the BOYZ and won then more power to them. Case dismissed.
..or is that a pistol in yer pocket?
L0L!!
what the hell is cohen on? not those suppositories again?
President Nixon and FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover discuss the Anti-War Movement - YouTube
Tyler, Respectfully? Your coffers are so DEEP, with donations! You never need worry.
It does look like the plaintiff is grasping at straws, actually. Doesn't Einhorn do this all the time?
Besides, the litigator was only admitted in 2007 to the CA bar and probably needs some billings...gues who the real winner will be in this episode?
Anyone can sue anyone for anything. What is contained in a Complaint is just that -- a complaint. A judge (if there is no factual basis) and then ultimately a jury (if someone is willing to swear to a factual basis, true or not), decides the "truth." Even then....
What the plaintiff is hoping for is a settlement.
This is on the firm's website:
Noble originally filed an action against the Defendants in San Francisco Superior Court. In response, Defendants, two of whom claim to be residents of Bulgaria, filed sworn declarations purportedly in support of efforts to defeat the suit containing a treasure trove of useful admissions, including several strongly supporting an assertion of personal jurisdiction over the Defendants by New York courts. Utilizing Stuart Gross’ capability to practice in New York, as well as California, Noble dismissed the California complaint and refilled a complaint in New York Supreme Court bolstered by facts admitted by the Defendants and the claims of Gerova assigned to it
Looks like the CA suit (the one in the PDF above) was dismissed in March of this year, and moved to NY. Sounds complicated.
http://www.gross-law.com/news.html
See? The CA office got a bunch of billings for a lawsuit that was dismissed in 4 months. Should've been a lawyer.
The link isn't working, but I'm guessing the CA suit was dismissed for lack of jurisdiction over the defendants in California. This is the second swing at the ball, claiming jurisdiction in NY. NY has looser personal jurisdiction laws, so probably a Hail Mary.
The link works but takes a little while to download, it is just a very large PDF with charts and repetitious assertions.(I finally clicked twice) Grab a twelver if you plan to read the whole thing.
Hijack of this thread must end. Back on topic please. Thanx.
This gem is all kinds of funny.
"Zerohedge.com and the younger Ivandjiiski have been described as residing in the “dark and cowardly corners of the blogosphere," from whence they publish almost exclusively negative information about publically traded companies, always pseudonymously authored."
I had always suspected about this blog's line of descent from the "dark (and cowardly) corners of the blogosphere", evident by the "almost exclusively" negative information.
*And stop manipulating that god-damn LIBOR ; no more billions for you Zero-so called-Hedge.
Zerohedge has an bad information ban for UK and UK Banks.
It published an article about Olympics and currencies appreciation and it just mentioned the drop in GDP, while the UK mainstream media has an daily barrage of bad news from the UK.
So in my opinion Zerohedge is funded by UK bankers. Just because UK bankers are the only altruist bankers in the world.
There was even article on ZeroHedge that boarder control was reestablished in the EU.
I traveled this summer through 7 countries in the EURO area there was no boarder control not even a “boarder” and in some case there was not even a sign that you entered a new country.
But this absurd news has nothing to do with EURO manipulation or talking the EURO down.
Some ZeroHedge readers are so wrong informed that they even think that an economical entity with a trade surplus (as the Euro is) has a currency that has no value (I have seen the ludicrous remarks in the many comments here) so they can go into their local Wall-Markts and get the stuff that is produced in Europe for free.
But still I love to read ZeroHedge.
Dude, ZH is owned by Bank of Nigeria and the fact that there is no coverage of Nigerian Banks proves my point.</sarc>
I would ban you too, veyron, for hijacking a thread with a personal vendetta post that had absolutely nothing to do with the original article. Market manipulation in response to a Syria no-fly zone? You appear to me to be some MSM-paid dickwad who is trying to gum up the works on ZH.
I just finish reading about half the compliant. If the naked short did not exist, this issue would not exist. The SEC is too busy with porn.com and looktheotherway.com to care about this issue or the small investor. Meanwhile we continue to pay their fee on every equity sale in the market and continue to get nothing for the fee (asuming you are trying to invest....if you are an Investment Bank, it is good to be king). Wish we could ask for a refund.
Who knows about the conspiracy charge. Looks pretty lame. Just look at MSM. How many times do different channels say the exact same thing....sometimes the exact same words?
It makes me sick to the pit of my stomach that the West is allying itself once again with al-Qaeda and jihadism.
Birds of a feather....................
Makes me want to puke. and the good ol' boy's will never figure it out. Love bombs away al hail our brethern AL-CIAda,
Now I know why our government was smuggling weapons across the border into Mexico ala "Fast and Furious" IT WAS SO THIS ADMINISTRATION COULD SUPPLY OUR NEW FOUND BUDDIES AL-CIAda WITH PLENTY OF WEAPONS!!!
Funny how those hated Al-Qaeda Muslim Jihadi's, that cost us Trillions of dollars to fight and given up tons of our rights, so now we're in bed with after killing Qaddaffi-installing the Muslim Brotherhood- In Egypt, Libya, and now Syria...
What in the hell is wrong with everybody? Are we all fluoridated mush brains? This shit can't stand... WAKE THE F UP!!!
When the revolution starts the reason will be self defense...
Yes Aziz! SOme of us really believe that al-Qaeda and jihadism are evil forces that bring no good with them. Yet America is so hell bent on taking down Iran and Syria that we will once again fund, train and arm these forces. Look, we were 100% behind them in the Soviet Afghan war. Now we have backed tham again in Libya, got the result we wanted and are going to double down in Syria.
There are many reports from non USA news sources that detail murder, torture and ethnic/religious cleansing by Syrian Rebel Muslim Extremist forces. Much murder and mayhem commited by the so called democratic rebel forces. Terrorist bombings are their doing, and killing of all sorts of religious {christian} minorities.
Our government back terrorists openly, when it serves their larger plan to conquer Syria and Iran.
There are many reports from non USA news sources that detail murder, torture and ethnic/religious cleansing by Syrian Rebel Muslim Extremist forces. Much murder and mayhem commited by the so called democratic rebel forces. Terrorist bombings are their doing, and killing of all sorts of religious {christian} minorities.
See video example.
http://www.rt.com/news/syria-rebel-massacre-aleppo-627/
Why should I give a shit about what goes on in Syria. They can all kill each other. I don't care.
because the fascists won't stop until the entire planet is fully enslaved.
Actually, their bombing Syria
Gosh darn it, John.
It's different when Alquida support freedom and democracy.
This Democracy business requires flexibilty.
Sometimes you just have to let bygones be bygones.
What could go wrong? :)
Aziz, me too. I'm disgusted with the West that supports the Muslim Brotherhood and Salafis in Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, and now Syria. Christians are suffering horribly in all these countries. Again and again, the MB and Salafis attack Christians in Syria then the Western media reports it as an attack by the Syrian government. I hope that Russia and China draw a line in the sand that says 'no more!' in Syria. If it leads to world war then so be it.
William S. Cohen -- fucking America for his personal gain since 1973.
LetThemEatRand, Do we wonder whose interests Mr. Cohen is really about serving?
It sure as hell ain't mine or yours.
Cohen = ordinary member of ZOG.
CompassionateFascist + Bold = ?
Your future leader. The Expected One, who unites the opposites. Get used to it.
Washington, once again, taking it's marching orders from Tel Aviv...
More like The City of London and wherever else the Luciferian Oligarchs meet to decide things.
Same fucking thing...
No it's not, troll who posts anti-semitic things. Tel Aviv is a muppet to the Luciferian Oligarchs. And that has nothing to with true Judiasm.
You must be a fucking banker...
Don't know of which "true Judaism" you are speaking....Talmudism or Torah-ism? There's a BIG difference!
true judaism? you mean the non-talmudic variety that is largely extinct these days? Hate to break it to you, but talmudic judiasm = luciferianism.... admittedly, same is true of many varieties of christianity and extremist islam...
The end is nigh<> I can't even imagine the vaccuum cleaner disinfecting Syria right now! The U.S. is probably arming any, and everything with a trigger finger. What great way to provoke Iran. /sarc
hey Y/C!
they're just dancin cheek-to-cheek
cohen is talking like a man w/ a paper asshole: what "no-fly zone"? is he hallucinating?
i think what cohen is signalling is that this won't be a NATO threatre of operations; i think maybe he is signalling that to the EU here
NATO-related specialOps flip-flops are all over the place tactically and supplying and training cadre
a no fly zone? this isn't libya! these fukers will shoot back, BiCheZ!!! cohen is doin the weekend warrior propwash chest thumping tho...
... disinfoCity...? what do yer gals inBelarus think?
i couldn't agree more Slewie! The Turks and Saudies hate the Syrians and Iranians. Throw in all those " gangsters/factions", and you have " Alice in Shitsville". Bill Cohen was always taken as a poor decision maker, even among Dems.
Putin sent several surface vessels, and other strategic ordnance over weeks ago./. Syria has massive Chem. weapons & other shit stock piled. The Russians want to save face, and every fanatic idiot wants a canister of death, when, ( Assad) Syria falls!
Russia needs those ports a great deal more than the US needs this fight. They will turtle hard.
As for Cohen, he's just talking up the price of gas for his paymasters.
Amerika, Fuck Yeah!
We really should pace ourselves lest we run out of people to free the shit out of..........
I cannot wait to see the peaceniks faces when they have to pull the lever in November.
They have a Nobel Peace prize recipient, who has started or continued numerous wars and clandestine operations, vs a guy who wants to remove the veil and bomb Persia.
WE, the US, is the bully in the schoolyard. No matter how we try to defend it, WE are the ones starting wars throughout the world and meddling in the internal affairs of nations around the globe. WE have NO equal.
Bring on the Goths!
pods
Think how powerful the propaganda machine needs to be to keep this simple fact hidden in plain sight for most of the 300 million+ Americans. I am in awe.
CNN The Cable Neo Con Network. Washing brains since it's inception!
Keeping 300 million + Americans ignorant of what is right under their noses. I am also in awe. In awe of the mad warmongering of both political parties.
CNN will have to do without Fareed Zakaria for awhile. He's been suspended from CNN and Time magazine for plagiarism.
(Yale frowns, Harvard sighs.)
http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2012/08/fareed-zakaria-accused-of-plagiarism-131678.html
Sooo, there really isn't anything new under the sun.
"Both"? Zog is One.
when the cameras went on in bagdad....and i saw clean well lighted streets, lined with palm trees and clean nice looking buildings...it hit me...ah they must have trash men, plumbers, electrcians pavers etc. all trying to make a living to feed their famlies....but the american people were (are) programmed to think they were all wearing rags, riding camels and 6 steps lower than dog shit....and we just went in and slaughtered millions....so tell me again why hitler et.al were so vile....but yet we wear the white hats....oh, how the rest of the world must view this country....at least we can be thankful that the syrian people will welcome us with open arms and flowers.....out
You said it like a, poet,s justice:Nobel Peace Prize winner,so right and truth.
Between two choises,they picked the wrong:War!
The easy one:Peace,they dont even consider!
pods correctly evaluated:
Exactly. We are not the good guys.
In the 1980s, when I saw news reports of people in the middle east referring to the government of the US as "the great Satan", I would laugh at what I perceived as their ignorance.
I was wrong. I was the ignorant one.
The US government is a cancer which is destroying America, and which has become a global force for evil.
Two great Americans put it better than I possibly can:
"It would be easier to pay off the national debt overnight than to neutralize the long-range effects of our national stupidity." - Frank Zappa
"Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that his justice cannot sleep forever." - Thomas Jefferson
Don't forget AIPAC's stranglehold over Congress and the EO. This is the root!
Oh no... It's the "City of London"... remember, from above? [rolls eyes]...
It's Aleister Crowley & his dastardly conclave of perverts that like to play dress-up and worship at midnight altars...
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I fucking get sick of trying to argue anything remotely related because it's all bundled up together so tightly that the lines are blurred when it comes to clearly identifying a "root"...
What I DO KNOW is this... francis_sawyer IS NOT IN THE CLUB... Furthermore ~ I would be indignant towards any club that DID exist which claimed me as an unwitting member... Many 'Americans' find themselves in this position as we speak... You supposedly belong to THE CLUB, but you survey the landscape & are EMBARASSED by what your representatives do under your name & without your consent... All you can do is to "speak out" against it... I don't enjoy the luxury of cowering under the umbrella of some unspoken force, whereby I receive a windfall for staying under said umbrella... & if I ever found myself in that position by accident, I would fold up the umbrella & stand in the rain with the rest of the folks getting wet instead of hoarding it for myself...
Anyway ~ the process of elimination [in terms of finding the real root] starts there...
When it comes to the aforementioned CITY OF LONDON... Um... I don't see much indignation from any American MSM, or Hollywood... But people fall all over themselves to score brownie points among peers at the "political correctness" banquet... That's a jobs that PAYS...
http://www.hbo.com/true-blood/index.html
Maybe the delegate plurality can exercise their constitutional and RNC powers to nominate Ron Paul in Tampa to end this 0/JB MR/PR DC WC mess:
http://www.examiner.com/article/ron-paul-a-notable-omission-from-the-list-of-speakers-at-the-2012-rnc
Maybe not, since Jesse Benton Senior Member of Ron Paul Campaign, said, "“Dr. Paul will not seek to be nominated from the floor”:
http://libertycrier.com/politics/benton-dr-paul-will-not-seek-to-be-nominated-from-the-floor/
If they did nominate the Good Doctor, they would be heroes.
In either event, we are de facto living in the Age of Ron Paul:
http://thehill.com/opinion/columnists/juan-williams/243301-opinion-we-live-in-the-age-of-ron-paul
Boot lowered into position on neck.... Check.
Apply extreme pressure.....Standby.
The on-going genocide in Darfur, Sudan (or Rwandan) has already claimed the lives of hundreds of thousands of people and has displaced more than 2 million more…………
I am sure we will send some carriers there and impose a no ……… Ooops, sorry, wrong skin color and no oil – never mind, its none of our business.
Welcome back. Can't remember your last post? Thanks for the links.
Meanwhile, China has declared 75%+ of the S. China Sea as their territorial waters and set up a military garrison off the coast of the Philippines.
http://threatjournal.com/archive/tj08092012.html
Is this a quid pro quo?
"OK, you can have Iran if we can have the South China Sea." ?
Suspicious timing.
There is growing evidence that China's domestic oil production began to fall in July of 2010.
That, frankly, can explain more or less everything in the world.
No fry zone?
"Cohen, a Republican, also criticized the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, Mitt Romney, for promising to issue an executive order on his first day in office labeling China a currency manipulator."
Questions of pay should be settled beforehand
Cohen is just worried that people will realize that every central bank is a currency manipulator.
pods
every central bank is a currency counterfeiter
fixed
Pot, kettle, black.
China has kept the usd/cyn trading band ( 2% outside), pretty tight! The band has been near the upper side of the trading range for a week.
China is a net seller of $. http://ftalphaville.ft.com/blog/2012/07/25/1095271/for-a-few-dollars-mor...
China knows the export heyday is up! They need to focus on internal consumption and inflation!
30 YEARS of Made in China! Every shit-bag Banana Republic in the galaxy is onto China's business model!
After retiring from the Senate, Cohen was appointed by President Bill Clinton to the position of Secretary of Defense during Clinton's second term, from 1997 to 2001.
Kind of says it all…
Being a Republican in Maine doesn’t mean much, ideology wise. After all, Susan Collins and Olympia Snow are Maine “Republicans.” When Cohen chose not to run for another Senate term in 1996, Collins, who had worked for Cohen, was elected to succeed him. Snow, Maine's other current senator, also worked for Cohen while he was in the House of Representatives.
“As Secretary of Defense Cohen played a large role in directing the United States military actions in Iraq and Kosovo, including the dismissal of Wesley Clark from his post as the NATO Supreme Allied Commander. Both Operation Desert Fox in Iraq and Operation Allied Force in Kosovo were launched just months after al-Qaeda carried out the United States embassy bombings in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, and Nairobi, Kenya, in 1998.” --Wikipedia
Cohen’s father, Reuben Cohen, was a Russian Jewish immigrant who owned the Bangor (Maine) Rye Bread Co.
J.R., Bill Cohen was meant to be a "partisan" bridge for both parties!
Bill Cohen , was considered liberal back in the day! Ref; bush senior, Clinton transition.
Bill Cohen was the liberal side of the "WAR ROOM"~
Hopefully this will balloon into a war between the US and Russia
About time someone liberated the shit out of the US.
"a staple of the GOP"
Until Bush the GOP ended wars, it did not start them. Vietnam - ended by Nixon. Korea - ended by Eisenhower, etc.
The Army of Northern Virginia did not start a war, sir.
But the first Republican president certainly did.
Fuck that. Nixon campaigned on ending the war and expanded it as soon as he took office, to include an illegal front in Cambodia.
Nixon started threatenining the USSR with nukes and almost started a nuclear war:
On the morning of October 27, 1969, a squadron of 18 B-52s — massive bombers with eight turbo engines and 185-foot wingspans — began racing from the western US toward the eastern border of the Soviet Union. The pilots flew for 18 hours without rest, hurtling toward their targets at more than 500 miles per hour. Each plane was loaded with nuclear weapons hundreds of times more powerful than the ones that had obliterated Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
The aircraft were pointed toward Moscow, but the real goal was to change the war in Vietnam. During his campaign for the presidency the year before, Richard Nixon had vowed to end that conflict. But more than 4,500 Americans had died there in the first six months of 1969, including 84 soldiers at the debacle of Hamburger Hill. Meanwhile, the peace negotiations in Paris, which many people hoped would end the conflict, had broken down. The Vietnamese had declared that they would just sit there, conceding nothing, "until the chairs rot." Frustrated, Nixon decided to try something new: threaten the Soviet Union with a massive nuclear strike and make its leaders think he was crazy enough to go through with it. His hope was that the Soviets would be so frightened of events spinning out of control that they would strong-arm Hanoi, telling the North Vietnamese to start making concessions at the negotiating table or risk losing Soviet military support.
Codenamed Giant Lance, Nixon's plan was the culmination of a strategy of premeditated madness he had developed with national security adviser Henry Kissinger. The details of this episode remained secret for 35 years and have never been fully told.
http://www.wired.com/politics/security/magazine/16-03/ff_nuclearwar/?currentPage=all
The real Codename should have been the Giant Dick, as in Tricky Dicky.