Fourth Largest Gun Maker In US Is Out Of Guns

Tyler Durden's picture

In a somewhat sad and shocking slap of reality to the face of our 'recovery' and 'freedom-based-debt-holdings', today's press-release-of-the-day (since we still haven't heard from BATS) goes to Sturm, Ruger (the 4th largest gun-maker in the US) who after receiving orders for over one million units in Q1 has temporarily suspended the acceptance of new orders.


Forget PCLN, CRM, NFLX, here's where the real action is!

RGR is up a whopping 571% from Nov 07 while the S&P 500 is down 3%...


Sturm, Ruger & Company, Inc. Reports Strong First Quarter Bookings

March 21, 2012

Sturm, Ruger & Company, Inc. (NYSE: RGR), announced today that for the first quarter 2012, the Company has received orders for more than one million units. Therefore, the Company has temporarily suspended the acceptance of new orders.


Chief Executive Officer Michael O. Fifer made the following comments:


The Company's Retailer Programs that were offered from January 1, 2012 through February 29, 2012 were very successful and generated significant orders from retailers to independent wholesale distributors for Ruger firearms.


Year-to-date, the independent wholesale distributors placed orders with the Company for more than one million Ruger firearms.

Despite the Company's continuing successful efforts to increase production rates, the incoming order rate exceeds our capacity to rapidly fulfill these orders. Consequently, the Company has temporarily suspended the acceptance of new orders.

The Company expects to resume the normal acceptance of orders by the end of May 2012.

The Company will announce its results and file its Quarterly Report on Form 10-Q for the first quarter of 2012 on Tuesday, May 1, 2012, after the close of the stock market.

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Au_Ag_CuPbCu's picture

Precious metals bitchez!

slaughterer's picture

The ZH message is getting through, obviously.

Sudden Debt's picture

If i could buy some over here I would to.
I've always been against guns my whole life, but like things are heading these last few years, it can't heart to own some.

The most fucked up thing is that we make some of the finest guns in the world and we can't even buy them!

q99x2's picture

Gatlin Gun like projectile launchers geared down from the drive train of any car - enough to stop an army.

CompassionateFascist's picture

1st Tuesday in November. Then: 60 days to Fort Sumter. Invest in lead.

economics9698's picture

I got a 380 LCP with a laser that is a great concealed carry.  If you buy one make sure you run 200 rounds through it.  The first 50 rounds were a pain in the ass.  Jammed every 5th round.  After break in it seems to be working fine.

smiler03's picture

Just downvote me now, don't bother reading on....

For every bullet you fire, another is also fired.

Worst shot dies.

50:50 your gold dies with you.

economics9698's picture

I bet the Yids in the Warsaw Ghetto wish they had a few firearms.  Most firearms will be used to protect property and life.  In a worst case scenario like the Warsaw ghetto firearms can kill a few bad guys.  If every Yid in the ghetto had a 9mm they could have made a dent in the NAZI war machine before they died.  That’s the difference between first world people and third world people, we prefer the other bastard die first, or at least take a few down first. 

Imagine if every Yid in the Warsaw ghetto had a 9mm…and had a set of balls...history would be different.

onthesquare's picture

I will see your 9mm and raise you 1 surface to air missal launcher; Like the ones the Syrians are using.

bigkahuna's picture


approximately 1:55 in is the reason the guns are flying off the shelf.

zhandax's picture

"Over 1 million people attended Obama's inauguration, and only 14 missed work".  He did get a majority of the votes.  We have arrived at the moment Tytler warned.

Oh regional Indian's picture

Smiler, you cannot argue with boys and their toys.

Guns...sure, the Iraqi Republican guards crawled out of their holes in abject surrender, but range-trained anarchists will take on the DHS/FEMA/Blackwater goons.

Or born on the 4th of J type vets will.... work with fat white patsies to save their lives from big gubberment. 

Dream on. I've done 12 military years.... range and reality are about as far apart as your elbow and your asshole, the two do not meet.

Our mind is our greatest weapon, not our hands. And especially not our trigger fingers.


This is fire-power run amock. Watch it and weep, gunners.


AnAnonymous's picture

Guns...sure, the Iraqi Republican guards crawled out of their holes in abject surrender, but range-trained anarchists will take on the DHS/FEMA/Blackwater goons.

Or born on the 4th of J type vets will.... work with fat white patsies to save their lives from big gubberment.

Trouble is that US citizens are duplicitous. They invent all kinds of stories to hide their motives.

Going against the government has never been the goal of gun ownership.

Thieves are thieves and will always retain a twisted sense of property.

Only a few will go against the government institutions of force. The rest will go on what US citizens do the best: looting, ethnical cleansing etc...

TheFourthStooge-ing's picture

AnAnonymous said:

Trouble is that US citizens are duplicitous. They invent all kinds of stories to hide their motives.

If Chinese citizenism made sense, that would be a story...

Thieves are thieves and will always retain a twisted sense of property.

Self indiction is a big thing in Chinese citizenism.


ffart's picture

Man, I don't even know... The goal of private gun ownership is to confiscate private property? And the goal of state gun ownership is...? Did you forget to take your brain medicine or something?

"Hey I got my CPL. I guess the logical next step is to go embark on an expansionary quest to subjugate all oil producing states."

AnAnonymous's picture

Your question simply illustrates that there is no difference between public and private in US citizenism.

Guns are designed with an intent, the wielder being private or public does not change one thing.

That private, public thing was something largely hyped by US citizenism to divert.

sessinpo's picture


Your question simply illustrates that there is no difference between public and private in US citizenism.

Guns are designed with an intent, the wielder being private or public does not change one thing.

That private, public thing was something largely hyped by US citizenism to divert.



I take your comment to its logical conclusion. You are controlled no matter what you do. Thus your posts and any subsequent one was forced. You had no choice.

TheFourthStooge-ing's picture

AnAnonymous said:

Your question simply illustrates that there is no difference between public and private in US citizenism.

Great Wall of China? Does it ring a bell?

Guns are designed with an intent, the wielder being private or public does not change one thing.

Ah, you can trust Chinese citizenism citizens to maintain their nature because Chinese citizenism citizen nature is eternal. As to dealing with predators, well, predators will be seen through the scope of Chinese citizenism which leads to quite a distorted self perception.

That private, public thing was something largely hyped by US citizenism to divert.

It would be very surprising indeed if Chinese citizenism citizens lost their nature.


Xkwisetly Paneful's picture

Starting with Afghanistan.

All hail the evil petro dollar!


mjcOH1's picture

"Trouble is that US citizens are duplicitous. They invent all kinds of stories to hide their motives.

Going against the government has never been the goal of gun ownership."


The founders and authors of the US Constitution made clear that the role of private gun ownership was to prevent tyranny in government.  Ex.

"The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- (Thomas Jefferson)

"Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms." (James Madison, The Federalist Papers #46 at 243-244)

"Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom of Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any bands of regular troops that can be, on any pretense, raised in the United States" (Noah Webster  in `An Examination into the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution', 1787, a pamphlet aimed at swaying Pennsylvania toward ratification, in Paul Ford, ed., Pamphlets on the Constitution of the United States, at 56(New York, 1888))

" disarm the people - that was the best and most effectual way to enslave them." (George Mason, 3 Elliot, Debates at 380)

"...but if circumstances should at any time oblige the government to form an army of any magnitude, that army can never be formidable to the liberties of the people, while there is a large body of citizens, little if at all inferior to them in discipline and use of arms, who stand ready to defend their rights..." (Alexander Hamilton speaking of standing armies in Federalist 29.)

"The Constitution shall never be prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms" (Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87)

"To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of people always possess arms, and be taught alike especially when young, how to use them." (Richard Henry Lee, 1788, Initiator of the Declaration of Independence, and member of the first Senate, which passed the Bill of Rights, Walter Bennett, ed., Letters from the Federal Farmer to the Republican, at 21,22,124 (Univ. of Alabama Press,1975)..)

"The great object is that every man be armed" and "everyone who is able may have a gun." (Patrick Henry, in the Virginia Convention on the ratification of the Constitution. Debates and other Proceedings of the Convention of Virginia,...taken in shorthand by David Robertson of Petersburg, at 271, 275 2d ed. Richmond, 1805. Also 3 Elliot, Debates at 386)


In short, the framers of the US Constitution hoped that by guaranteeing the individual right to gun ownership we would live free ..... as opposed to being ground under tank tracks in Tiennenman Square, locked up in prison factories to produce do-dadds for foreign export, or forced off our land if the local Party official decided that it needed redistributing (to himself).

Butt....if that works for you go for it.   Enjoy your chains.   Save your bullshit and re-invention of the historical intent of the founders for someplace else though. 

We have the historical documentation.  We didn't burn it in the Cultural Revolution.

kk1532003's picture

"I've done 12 military years.... range and reality are about as far apart as your elbow and your asshole"


Yup...just about the same amount of distance exists between the guy in the rear with the gear and a combat troop.  Which one were you cowboy?


What I get sick of is hearing over and over about how a determined insurgency can never win against the mighty forces of a professional army/government..


If the SHTF in this country, how many of our current and former military would take up arms AGAINST tyranny?  Of course they can never win right?


Listen to the utterances of history:

"Those poorly trained American farmers can never stand against the might of the British Empire"

"Those French peasants can nver stand against the might of Imperial France"

"Good God, those ignornat Russian peasants can never hold against the might of the Czar"

"Those slant eyed little Vietnamese can never stand against the might of the US"

"Those starving superstitious Afgans will never last against the might of the British...or Soviets...or soon the be Americans"

At a certain point in an insurgency missles and tanks don't work.  You have to kick down doors.  And to do that you need to have balls the size of coconuts and be determined.  Hired guns rairly go the distance...


Oh regional Indian's picture

Save me your attitude, read below and also understand that you have bought the lie that you "won" that particular war and also the lie that you are a "Citizen" of a country.

You are a resource of a corporation, playinng in the corporation's sand-box.

We all are for that matter, but clearly US is in the cross hairs.

And last, but not least, everyone here is speaking defensively. So, reactively. In a war-zone, the pro-active, attacking force has a built-in advantage. 

It's okay though, nurse that cold blue-steel. To each his own.


sun tzu's picture

coming from an indian that's laughable

Oh regional Indian's picture

Anything coming from a guy who has a chippendale avaatar and calls himself sun tzu is beyond anything.

Ridiculous. You sir, are a first class confused clown in my eyes.

Fuck off.


sun tzu's picture

go worship your cows and bath in holy shit water

DanDaley's picture

Better to have a gun and not need it, than to need it and not have it, mind or no mind.

Oh regional Indian's picture

I have nice air-pistols that I use to train my eye/hand co-ordination, accuracy of projection, strength.

 But killer guns? They make you a 'tiger" in your mind. And the adrenaline of a real situation? hmmmmm, you're going to attempt BlackHawk down in Podunk Illinois with your individual or collective armory? Dream on. There is always a bigger gun around.

And what I'm actually speaking of is how much assymetric weaponry the PTB have at their disposal.

that will need an asymmetric mind to overcome. 


Max Hunter's picture

There is no doubt we are in a war for the mind. Words and ideas will forge much of the future.  I will still have guns.. Just in case I need them..

sun tzu's picture

It doesn't matter how many guns they have. How many people are willing to kill or die for the bankers?

DaveyJones's picture

and more important, how many bankers are willing to die for the bankers?

DanDaley's picture

I'll grant you one thing: just because you have firearms, doesn't mean you're "armed".  Being really "armed" means that you have thought it through, you know what is important in life, and that you may very well suffer and die.  This brings in your faith in God, the Constitution, and therefore your resolve to defend your rights and fight for what is important.  In times of trouble, many will falter and be found wanting (like Hooker in the Civil War), yet many who now seem weak and irresolute will rise to the occasion.  Like Patton said, "Pressure makes diamonds."

CompassionateFascist's picture

What's all this? Joe Hooker did his best. He was just leaning against the wrong marble column when a Confederate cannon shell hit it.

DanDaley's picture

Sure he did his best, but got defeated while doing so by more audacious commanders -Lee and Jackson.

Freddie's picture

We saw your air pistols on TV when that small group of Al Qeada terrorists caused chaos is a major Indian city, killed dozens, tried to burn down a hotel, etc etc.

This is not a insult towards Indian cops and the army.  A lot of brave Indian cops and soldiers were getting shot at.  The problem is you had cops with revolvers and old bolt action Enfield rifles against AK-47.  I remember one cop hiding with his Enfield as the drugged up Islamic was spraying AK-47 fire.   If this city insurgency had happen in Texas - you would have had probably 1,000 armed citizens all over the terrorists.  

I do not support how American cops have been turned into paramilitaries.  I prefer armed and responsible citizens.  The best model is probably the Swiss.

Do not under estimate private gun owners.  Many of them are very good shots and the practice often.

Matte_Black's picture

It seems to me that someone should point out that Mr. Ori was simply pointing out that should the shtf, our greatest strength will be our way of thinking, if we think rightly about this conflict, rather than our way of arming ourselves.

He rightly points out that the military/LEA can field awesome firepower. He also points out that it requires a different kind of thinking to overcome that type of advantage.

History proves him correct, imo. Asymmetrical warfighting is a winner in the modern era. It works. It also requires asymmetrical thinking to be successful.

Think different.

Vietnam bitchez.

Lednbrass's picture

There are myriad problems with your argument here, not the least of which is that you simply do not realize the massive divide in the US military itself or the nation as a whole.  It is not homgenous by any stretch, there are massive differences in region, culture, and ethnicity.  The military now and particularly its actual trigger pullers are overwhelmingly from the south and west, it is extremely lopsided in terms of where actual combat soldiers come from. 

You are foolish in the first place for going on about a nation you know little about outside of media and doubly stupid for not realizing that the US military is not in any way, shape, or form representative of the overall population. The overall population in the country is urban and increasingly multiethnic, the fighting military is small town or rural and overwhelmingly white.  An all volunteer military has led to the urbanites not joining, and if they do they tend to join for training and become technicians or adminstrators.  The boys from outside New England and the Left coast join to learn to fight, and the current and former miltary in this country is extremely tilted in this regard.

If things get ugly those guys arent going to fight their own any more then they did in 1861 and the midwewstern small town and farmboys that gave the government its real strength in those years arent going to support it again. Realize that our financial and government establishments come from exactly the opposite of the areas our fighting troops come from- if and when push really comes to shove the true power really is not in New England, DC, and California.  Political and financial power- yes. Real gun barrel power- no, very little.

vato poco's picture

"Our mind is our greatest weapon, not our hands."

Uh-huh. Say, how'd that attitude - and those "weapons" - work out for you boys when the Pakis with teeny-tiny brains, but *lots* of guns came calling in Mumbai a while back? I'll skip any mention of the legions of unarmed cops, because even if they'd had weapons, they'd have done just what our cops routinely do: run and hide like little bitches. So let's concentrate on all the innocent, unarmed people the brave warriors of jihad picked off like fish in a barrel.

Think their last thoughts might have been along the lines of, "Golly, sure wish I had me one of them 'toys' the psuedointellectuals are always telling us we don't need."? Or "Sure wish we had us some range-trained anarchists right about now!"?



spooncutter's picture

ori, if you're going to continue doomsaying circlejerking hurry up and finish yourself off over your $55 silver monster boxes

bernorange's picture

So you are saying it's better to let the other shot fired be the only shot fired?  I don't think so.

Oh regional Indian's picture

Bern, did you see Neo training with Guns to fight the Matrix in the Matrix?

That trilogy was a loaded tell. Go watch it again, all the gun-slingers here. It might save your life.

They can put a thought in your head for heaven's sake. From 500 meters. You think the Branch Dravidian's were underprepared? 


sun tzu's picture

Can they handle 100,000 Branch Davidian compounds at the same time?

Oh regional Indian's picture

Don't even kid yourself that this divided (deeply) nation will produce 100,000 David Koreshes. that is what it take to pull together a Branch Davidian Sect/cult/strong-hold.

The armory does not the army make. 


LasVegasDave's picture

There already are 100,000 david koreshes armed and ready.

Now come and be led by your nose ring

sun tzu's picture

All it takes is a few people with guns. No compound needed. How many stormtroopers are willing to die for the bankers? People are willing to die for their family and country, not for money. 

Frankie Carbone's picture

I too have a .380 LCP. The 380 though is a little underpowered but the benefits of ease of carry and concealment are often worth it for me though (Carry option #2 is a Ruger SP101 357 Mag, 2 3/4" barrel with FULL LOAD Federal 125gr JHP 357B's. - Trust me, it's a monster to handle and takes LOTS of practice). 

May I offer a little advice: Feed your 380 a diet of these.

These Buffalo Bore 380 JHP's are the hottest 380ACP's on the market, and yes, the LCP can handle them (not all 380's can). 

This will turn that little cap gun into a real firecracker. It's your life at stake bro. Don't get cheap ass with the ammo. Try them. I think you'll be impressed. BTW. Buffalo Bore ammo, all of it, is top notch and kick ass. 

Put it this way. I've put hundreds of rounds into my pistols and it's my carry round. I trust my life with this stuff. It's HOT as hell. 

From their website. (YES, this IS from the actual company website. I did not make this up. I LAUGHED MY ASS OFF half way through it. The owner, so it is said, (Tim Sundles) is a no bullshit, Montana man ballistician "regular Joe" who is reportedly a goddamn genius when it comes to ballistics). 

Just read it. It's as informative as it is goddamn funny!


380 Auto +P Ammo - 90 gr. Jacketed Hollow Point (1200fps M.E. 288 ft. lbs. - 20 Round Box

The 380 auto inhabits a valuable and useful place in our society, mostly because of the easily concealable, tiny pistols chambered for it. HOWEVER, because of the very limited size of the cartridge, it is plagued with limited power and therefore most of the existing ammo in 380 auto suffers from not being reliable as a man-stopper. We've studied and played with nearly all of the existing available 380 ammo and find it wanting as a reliable means of self defense, especially against a large, insane, drugged up/pain free, determined attacker.

Here's the problem. The current 380 auto frangible ammo delivers a large amount of surface trauma, but lacks serious penetration. For example, if you shot me or another sane man in the face with modern frangible 380 ammo, it would blow off a big portion of my cheek and send a few teeth down my throat, I would undoubtedly fall to the ground in shock and pain, but I would be very much alive and functional if I could get past the shock and pain as that frangible bullet would have stopped some where inside my face, never making it to my brain. However, if you shot a drugged up maniac in the face with that same frangible 380 ammo and blew half his cheek off, he would keep right on coming because he is insane and is not thinking like you or I. Plus, he is likely pain free and fear free and wont know that half his cheek is missing and if he did know, he would not care. So whatever 380 ammo you shoot him in the face with, had better go through his face and blow his brain stem out the back of his head, because only a CNS (central nervous system) hit with a 380 is going to stop him. Likewise, a torso hit to the sternum needs to penetrate deep enough to blow all the way through his spine in order to shut him down spontaneously. If you fail to shut him down instantly, you and your loved ones are going to have to find a way to survive while you wait for him to bleed out and pass out. The best chance of survival for you and your family is to shut down the attacker instantly. So, we've designed a few 380 auto +P loads to keep you and your loved ones alive under the worst of scenarios.

This 380 Auto+P ammo will better all American made 380 Auto ammo by 150 fps to 200 fps in all bullet weights we make. This is a serious improvement in this typically anemic cartridge. This 380 auto+P ammo is more powerful than the typical 38SPL ammo made by most American ammo makers and you'll get 7 shots of it in a small/flat/light weight 380 versus 5 shots out of a bulkier 38 SPL J frame revolver. Additionally, with the 380 you'll get much faster reloads and the little magazines are flatter than a speed-loader used for a J frame.

Item 27C/20 is a 90gr. Jacketed Hollow Point bullet.  It is traveling over 1,200 fps out of my BDA (Browning Double Action) with its 3.75 inch barrel. We've utilized the very same flash suppressed powders that we've used in our two other 380 auto +P loads. If you like the idea of the extra big hole this expanding load makes in human flesh, we would advise that you load this bullet in your chamber, followed by a magazine full of our non-expanding loads. So, if the first shot does not incapacitate the attacker, your magazine is full of ammo that will, if you can put the bullet in his spine or brain from any angle. Note my "real world" velocities from my personal "real world" pistols.

1. BDA-3.75 inch barrel----1218 fps
2. Walther PPK-3.5 inch barrel-----1200 fps
3. Colt Mustang Pocket Lite-2.75 inch barrel---1123 fps
4. Keltec---1100 fps


JW n FL's picture



Federal .380 ACP 90 gr Hydra-Shok JHP: SIM-TEST* w/denim

Hornady Critical Defense .380 ACP 90 gr Ammo Test

Speer Gold Dot .380 ACP 90 gr Ammo Test

AMMO TEST: .380 ACP Remington Golden Saber 102 gr JHP


There are more from in 380 as well as other calibers..

The only other who I would mention is .

You wont go wrong either way.


The 380 verse a 9mm +P?? is a HUGE! DIFFERENCE!!

Same wieght for carry.


Try this instead!! full auto(ish) 12 gauge!


Good Luck!