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Fox, NBC, Bloomberg Project Newt To Win South Carolina, Romney Second

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Three primaries, three different winners. There is little that can be said here except to add what we said before: the US gets just what it deserves. Follow the results live on the CNN webcast and the interactive Google chart.

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Sat, 01/21/2012 - 20:09 | 2085256 Careless Whisper
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The Careless Whisper News Update & Threadjacking

Just One Story Today Because It's So Outrageous



"United Against Nuclear Iran" (a 501-c-3 entity) Says Jennifer Lopez (aka J Lo) Is A Terrorist Sympathizer Ands Needs To Be Indefinately Detained At Quantanamo Under NDAA   VIDEO: Commercial

Meet: United Against Nuclear Iran:

Meet: The Alleged Dangerous Terrorist Sympathizer ("Party Freak" Is Code - She's Evil) VIDEO:

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 20:11 | 2085264 nmewn
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"United Against Nuclear Iran" (a 501-c-3 entity) Says Jennifer Lopez (aka J Lo) Is A Terrorist Sympathizer Ands Needs To Be Indefinately Detained At Quantanamo Under NDAA"

Ok ok...I'll do this one for the good of the country. I got a spare room.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 20:17 | 2085278 ozziindaus
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and I will stand guard from the closet with a camera. 

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 20:28 | 2085312 trav7777
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she's a hag...

now we have 3 primaries, 3 winners...but RP ain't one of them

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 20:32 | 2085321 A Lunatic
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Divide and conquer, bitchez. Works every time.............

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 22:54 | 2085639 UBIGDummy
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Tea party,  Totally corrupted by the neocons.  Comon,  NH  Teaparty voted for Romney,  

Over 40% voted for the Grinch who stole South Carolina.  

Tea Party is Karl Roves and Kristols play thing.  

Over 40% of the voters who were calling themselves VERY CONSERVATIVE, voted for Gingerich.  So that must make South Carolina either the most UNINFORMED group in the union or the STUPIDEST>  

Glad I never moved there.  

Viva de revolucion via Ron Paul.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 23:38 | 2085720 Freddie
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Gingrich is a RINO POS.   He would be the fourth choice out of the 4.  Even Romney is a better choice than Gingrich.  He is NOT a conservative. 

We get all of these narcissist sociopaths like Clinton, Obama and now Newt. 

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 00:09 | 2085768 YBNguy
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Newts and Santy are out over 500 delegates due to poor campaign strategy:

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 00:45 | 2085822 dwdollar
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I project that within a generation the American Empire will wither and die and millions of pathetic unproductive Americans will starve to death in the process when they lose their crony .gov jobs. Think I will get a prime time spot on the Thought Vacuum? Doubt it. No one wants to hear the truth.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 00:55 | 2085843 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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You're giving America a generation?  How generous.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 01:39 | 2085899 Surly Bear
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No, apparently we're giving America a 'Gingrich' which is significantly shorter than a generation. :)

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 10:47 | 2086343 AldousHuxley
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President Camacho: Shit. I know shit's bad right now, with all that starving bullshit, and the dust storms, and we are running out of french fries and burrito coverings. But I got a solution.

South Carolina Representative # 1: That's what you said last time, dipshit!

South Carolina Representative # 2: Yeah, I got a solution, you're a dick! South Carolina, what's up!

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 11:54 | 2086413 Comay Mierda
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Dear non-Americans, I would like to apologize on behalf of my country. Despite what my peers and I do to wake up most Americans to the tyranny that will ultimately start WWIII, most Americans are too chemically dumbed down to get it (fluoride poison in the water, aspartame in food, toxic vaccines administered throughout their lifetime, x-ray scanners known and unknown that shred their dna). Please understand we are not all ignorant and are trying to save the Earth and your country from a nuclear holocaust that our corrupt government would like to ignite in order to serve the larger UN agenda of population reduction (Agenda 21) and total world dominance of all governments. Sadly, it appears that a warmongering ass clown who has never even been in a school yard fight will end up in the white house for the next four years. God help us.

Awake American

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 13:06 | 2086506 Oh regional Indian
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Well said Comay. It's unfortunate but true. 

And you know what? Seeing this cast of characters, with a NEWT in the lead in anything....forget a Caucus, A NEWT.

Imagine, who is the president of America? NEWT Gingrich. 

Newt, Perry, Bachmann, Palin, Perry(!!!!!!!!!).....need one go on....

Tch... in the other corner... Obama or Clinton?




Sun, 01/22/2012 - 12:43 | 2086523 Hulk
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plus we are pretty hung over all weekend. We start to recover on Wednesday, but then the whole cycle starts again come Friday night...

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 21:34 | 2087319 bigkahuna
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You need to find chumba and get back here more often.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 18:10 | 2087058 PY-129-20
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Dear American friend,

I know what you're going through. It is not that different over here. It is frustrating but don't give up. I'd miss you.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 02:57 | 2085963 Michael
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The backup plan; complete and total economic collapse of the USA. That should fix most of our problems, even if Ron Paul doesn't win.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 03:42 | 2085983 Michael
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Plan A is Ron Paul to fix the problem.

Plan B is complete and total worldwide economic collapse, that should fix most of our problems.

Either way I win.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 05:39 | 2086091 old naughty
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Plan A-- Spike Lee gives a pair of Air Jordan to telepromter, for early victory dance.

May be he knows how to fix the economy and win another Nobel Prize, this time for Economics?  Hummmmmmm. 

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 10:50 | 2086346 AldousHuxley
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You can't fix STUPID


"Recent polls have shown a fifth of Americans can't locate the U.S. on a world map. Why do you think this is?"

"I personally believe that U.S. Americans are unable to do so because, uh, some . . . people out there in our nation don't have maps and, uh, I believe that our, uh, education like such as in South Africa and, uh, the Iraq, everywhere like such as, and, I believe that they should, our education over HERE in the U.S. should help the U.S., uh, or, uh, should help South Africa and should help the Iraq and the Asian countries, so we will be able to build up our future, for our children." 

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 11:01 | 2086362 I Got Worms
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That was Ms. South Carolina. May explain some of the voting last night.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 12:31 | 2086505 Things that go bump
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Give her a break, there might be a complete sentence in there somewhere.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 17:11 | 2086725 benb
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It's all theater. Two words -STAGED ELECTIONS. The syndicate controls the microphone. They drug the food and water. They control what we see. It's a cross between a bad joke and a nightmare.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 01:13 | 2085825 Joeman34
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OT:  Sorry to hijack, but has ZH commented on SCYTL buying SOE:

-  SCYTL, an international based company headquartered in Barcelona buys SOE Software, the leading provider of election management solutions in the U.S.


-  SCYTL has offices in Baltimore, Toronto, New Delhi, Athens, Kiev and Singapore


-  SCYTL is a portfolio company of leading international VC funds Nauta Capital, Balderton Capital and Spinnaker


-  SOE software is based in Tampa, FL


Seems to raise a red flag for me that a domestic election management solutions company is sold to a VC-funded company based in Barcelona 10 months before a nation election.  <...Paging George Soros...>


Sun, 01/22/2012 - 02:52 | 2085960 Scalaris
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I hear elections in the future won't even need people.

Now that's efficiency.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 11:24 | 2086352 Normalcy Bias
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They already don't. It's all an 'Illusion of Choice.'

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 15:52 | 2086849 whstlblwr
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Quit whining start working. Be a watch dog in your precinct.

"There is only one way to immediately find out whether Scytl/SOE reported the right results*, and that is for members of the public to capture evidence of reported precinct results when polls close tonight. Think of it as a giant neighborhood watch.

Precinct results should be posted at each polling site. In addition, during poll closing the public has a right to be in the polling place watching and videotaping what goes on.

Here is a four-minute video showing exactly what to do:

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 19:31 | 2087168 Normalcy Bias
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I wasn't "whining," it was a statement of opinion which is likely very accurate. Aren't you aware that electronic voting machines are easily hacked?  This is not to mention the myriad of old school vote fraud techniques...

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 02:58 | 2085964 Caggge
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Whoever gets elected, besides Newt, should ask Newt to serve his country in his best way. We can deploy him in Europe and his massive head can serve as the missile defense shield.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 10:20 | 2086316 General Decline
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"We get all of these narcissist sociopaths like Clinton, Obama and now Newt. "

....and Bush and Reagan and Carter and Nixon etc. etc. etc.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 11:38 | 2086396 GOSPLAN HERO
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RINO Gingrich is a big admirer of FDR.



Sun, 01/22/2012 - 01:21 | 2085880 bankonzhongguo
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Needless to say most folks here like RP.

Maybe he uses his delegates at the convention to "get something."

RP runs as third party and split "conservatives" allowing an easier Obama win.

We all already know that Romney is no different than Gingrich OR Obama, or Hillary.

We all know CNN, WSJ, NBC, Fox are all rigged and biased.

They are all part of the killer elite that's driving the country into the ground on a daily basis.

But even with their control grids, money printing and surveillance corpocracy WHAT WILL GET BETTER under the present path? Nothing.  Nothing is presumed to get better.

On the present course, by 2016, the only thing holding the country together will be Xboxes, food stamps and chronic.  The Feds will never disarm this country.  Even Mossad made the calculation that nuking Washington and relocating the capital to Chicagoland only buys a little time.  Same with the Iran War.  Big banks and business can only kick Amerikans' teeth in for so long.  After the last molar comes loose, that irradiated TSA wonk you depended on to molest Grandma Moses, but trained to take a bullet for Morty Moneychanger is going to go berserk.  And the few allowed to carry guns or search databases are going to look for scapegoats to keep their jobs from the mobs.

Locking up Mandela did not keep apartheid.  Turning Gaza into a polish ghetto did not conceal human misery.  NDAA, SOPA, PIPA, Patriot 2, ZIRP are only temporary weapons in a war verses the human spirit.  The human spirit will rise again even after the coming catastrophe of the 2012 "election."

Stay local.  Stay alert.  Stand ready.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 01:29 | 2085887 hidingfromhelis
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IF Ron Paul can split the "conservative" vote, then he's going to win.  There are a whole lot of disenchanted '08 Obama voters that will be voting for RP, and if you combine that with a nice chunk of the independents, that's a win.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 02:08 | 2085925 bankonzhongguo
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I elected Bill Clinton.

How?  because I voted for Ross Perot.

Now I knew Perot was another big money guy out of Texas, but he wasn't a demopublican and that was enough for me, you and all of us back in what 1992?  Good grief.

Same with Paul today, only there are more of us now.

But it will likely not matter because the science of controlled opposition, big media, super-PACs and the like now not only control the message, but can effectively manipulate an election at the polling place.

We already saw the work done with the Iowa causes.  'Santorum who?'  That was a trial balloon for the 2012 election.

I will turn my prayer rug into a flying carpet to get anyone remotely like RP into ANY seat of power.

But game theory is very compelling when you know the two prime powers have so much power and money.

I am more heartened today than 2008 because when you listen to folks like Alex Jones, you will also hear the same rhetoric coming from Democracy Now and Pacifica Radio.  When the so called far left and far right are talking about the same injustices you know things have to change. No justice.  No peace.

Good luck to everyone.

Help Ron Paul Save America.



Sun, 01/22/2012 - 03:19 | 2085977 ninja247
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Hw have I never read your stuff before. You must have a blog or something. Plesase send me anything written by you @ninja247.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 04:28 | 2086021 Assetman
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It's precisely this type of thinking (it won't matter because the demopublicans will effectively manipulate the election) that allows tyrants to remain tyrants.  Sadly, too many people are convinced a (D) or and (R) are their ONLY choices.

At some point... and perhaps not in this election cycle... it WILL eventually sink in to a majority of the general public that the 2 political parties that dominate the political landscape are one in the same... essentially wolves in sheeps clothing that have their own visions of how one obtains statist control.  And the mainstream media is nothing but a megaphone to those who already have consolidated power... as they are lothe to be on the wrong side of a tyrant's power grab.

The unfortunate thing, however, is that the older segments of the population (over 35) in these primary elections have strongly favored either (a) "status quo" candidates (Romney); or (b) a media-influenced "flavor of the day" (Santorum, Gingrich... even Huntsman).  The fact that these "flavors of the day" are doing so well demonstrates the power of the mainstream (divide and conquer works well). I've never quite seen anything like this...  but it does demonstrate just how terrible the lineup the Republican party actually has.  It's pathetic, really.

So given what we are likely to get out of the Republican Party... who really cares if an Indpendent Ron Paul allows Obama to win an election (though I'm not convinced that's the case either, as Obama has sold out a lot of the Democratic party voter base)?  Obama, Romney, Gingrich, Santorum... no matter.  They are one in the same-- they're all the same tyrants you knew years ago.  And they will continue at every turn to chip away at each and every one of our social and economic liberties.  F-that... why would I want to waste my vote that way?

This will be the 4th election I've voted totally away from the (D)/(R) tickets-- and I have a very clear conscience about that.  As the OP relayed earlier, we as a people are collectively getting what we deserve.  If you want to believe that "nothing can be done" and vote accordingly-- you are accountable to your own tyrannious choices.  And I'm pretty confident that whether its Obama or Romney leading our country, we will accelerate towards the economic/social/moral abyss.


Sun, 01/22/2012 - 09:01 | 2086228 Vagabond
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You seem to think that the elections can't be rigged.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 12:43 | 2086522 Things that go bump
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"What rough beast, its hour come round at last,

Slouches toward Bethleham to be born?"   The Second Coming, William Butler Yeats, 1919

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 07:35 | 2086156 Hey Assholes
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The revolution will not be televised. 

Ron Paul is planting seeds that will take time to grow. There are furtile fields of government educated lumps of clay: but it will take time.

I will never vote for anyone who does not defend freedom and liberty as the good doctor does.

Freedom != We are free to do what ever the government allows us to do

Liberty != You must do everything the government forces you to do

It will take time.

Thank you Dr Paul.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 16:34 | 2086921 FrankDrakman
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I elected Bill Clinton.

How?  because I voted for Ross Perot.

This is a popular meme - I thought the same thing - but it doesn't really hold water. Exit polls in 92 showed that Perot attracted almost as many Democrats as he did Republicans. Clinton would have won any way, Perot or no Perot.

And I say that not because I think Clinton was smarter or better. GHW was and is a better man, but that silver spoon in his mouth mangled his speech, and for all Slick Willie's faults, he was an excellent communicator. I remember during one of the debates, Clinton tried to have it both ways on an issue, and GHW pounced as best he could, but all he could do was sputter "There's this.. this.. pattern where you try to have both sides on the issue" - hardly a killer put-down.

Paul might not be as telegenic as Bambam, but he's quick on his feet, and in a one-on-one, Paul can't be denied time to speak the way he is the primary "debates".

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 08:05 | 2086178 blueridgeviews
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Dude, not a chance. No offense, but you're dreaming.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 10:35 | 2086327 IrritableBowels
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The typical 'very conservative' south carolinian voter:

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 16:06 | 2086871 g speed
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fucking puke

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 18:04 | 2087053 Hugh G Rection
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Smartest thing that ever came out of her mouth was dick.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 21:36 | 2085477 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Last I remember you were dissing on Halle Berry, and now J Lo....

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 22:18 | 2085535 ClassicalLib17
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She's a haybag

How does Fiat stay in business?  I test drove one of those pieces of crap.  Very pricey considering... 

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 22:38 | 2085607 Careless Whisper
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Well, they must be doing something right, they managed to acquire 58% of Chrysler. They already owned 90% of Ferrari, 100% of Maserati, plus a few other brands most people aren't familiar with;


Sat, 01/21/2012 - 22:58 | 2085649 The Monkey
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Sounds like a potential short to add to your watch list.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 23:21 | 2085691 Careless Whisper
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im looking to short some CAT around 110-112, and if ANF breaks down that's a screaming short. F could be a short candidate. CVX i buy the dips.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 08:27 | 2086199 UBIGDummy
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Fix it again Tony

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 09:19 | 2086242 Taint Boil
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Here is a video of the line that makes the Fiat 500. It is a shot of the station that welds the car together (the body sides). There is no car present because the line is in a "dry cycle" (running without parts).

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 22:45 | 2085624 leftcoastfool
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There are none so blind as those who will not see.

However, let's keep things in perspective:  most states call their booze stores "Liquor stores", "ABC Stores", etc.  In South Carolina they just mark them with a big red dot on the wall because so many of their enlightened residents couldn't be bothered to learn to read...

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 01:03 | 2085852 i-dog
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Sounds like Queensland (that's in Australia, for our American viewers). It's the Aussie equivalent of "south of the Mason-Dixon" and the main beer there is named XXXX. That's how they [attempt to] spell 'beer'.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 00:03 | 2085754 Hugh G Rection
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Zionism wins again.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 00:05 | 2085762 frostfan
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When you're a step ahead, you usually do.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 00:06 | 2085760 Hugh G Rection
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Hey anyone know where all these TANKS are heading???

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 00:30 | 2085801 Thadeous
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A Bradley is not a tank. It's an armored personnel carrier originally designed in the 70's.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 00:48 | 2085831 Hugh G Rection
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I beg a billion pardons. Where are those APCs headed?

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 00:58 | 2085848 Thadeous
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Probably a storage or reset facility. They don't even have the 25mm gun installed.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 03:08 | 2085969 respect the cock
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Training or storage.  

Videos like these pop up every 6 months or so.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 12:41 | 2086520 UGrev
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3...2...1.. Queue FEMA camp paranoid's.. 

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 10:47 | 2086342 IrritableBowels
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These are varying versions of Bradley Fighting Vehicles, produced in the early 80s during the Cold War. They are heading to the Defense Reutilization and Marketing Office in Imperial Beach, California to be destroyed or refurbished and sold at auction. If? you look closely at the vehicles the either have a box or the letters "DL" spray painted on them. The boxes mark breach damage from armor piercing rounds and the "DL" designates that vehicle for destruction.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 12:48 | 2086527 Things that go bump
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One of those will be handy in the future for urban commutes. 

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 18:14 | 2087064 Hugh G Rection
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I'd like to know when that auction is held, would be a perfect STD,err silver transportation device.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 13:21 | 2086574 UBIGDummy
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Newt's family values- Using daughters from your first wife to convince everyone that your second wife is lying about your third wife.

Can't take credit for this but its funny yet true.

Daily Paul. Santorum drops after florida. Mission accomplished.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 01:53 | 2087862 Deo vindice
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Newt's family values- Using daughters from your first wife to convince everyone that your second wife is lying about your third wife.

That was funny.  Except that it is true.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 20:19 | 2085284 i-dog
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Damn ... beat me to it!!

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 20:20 | 2085292 CaptainObvious
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I heartily volunteer to do the TSA style pat downs.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 22:55 | 2085640 vast-dom
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Yes the US gets what it deserves. And if you associate with gold digging whores, you are one too, rationalizations and excuses notwithstanding. BPD whores abound!

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 00:17 | 2085778 i-dog
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"gold digging whores"?! You trying to join the Trav Fan Club?

She makes more in a minute through her own talent than you do in a lifetime ... and has more talent in her little finger nail than you do in your whole miserable BPD vast-dom!!

Save your cheap shots for trolling with your imaginary friends on MSN.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 09:18 | 2086241 Schmoo
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Plus she has that fantastic booty

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 00:11 | 2085772 williambanzai7
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Sun, 01/22/2012 - 00:21 | 2085790 wisefool
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Thank You WB7. Watched Newts speach. para: "I made most of my money from Freddie Mac and other K street groups, based on my reputation of impeaching an adulterer but that Nuclear Engineer, Navy Veteran Peanut farmer was a disaster!"

I (wisefool) Dont like Bammer, but Newt would get owned hard in any debates with him. He was sweating profusley just in the 15 minutes he had to talk tonight.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 00:36 | 2085811 williambanzai7
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Unfortunately, or unfortunately, depending on how you look at it, this latest development makes my lampooning job easier for a week or two.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 01:07 | 2085864 Careless Whisper
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Emjoy it while you can because the global banks have Jeb waiting in the wings, just in case. He's only had one wife and she was born in Mexico. I'm thinkin' Jeb would be a bit of a challenge for Mister Bazai7.


Sun, 01/22/2012 - 13:09 | 2086553 Things that go bump
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No!!!!! Not that!  Have they become the royal family? Have we become a monarchy after all the sacrifices to free us from such a government?  Quality candidates might be thin on the ground this cycle, but I think the less than illustrious records of the last two Bushes amply demonstrated their mediocrity.  Do they think if they offer up enough dreck, people will accept Jeb as the second coming?  Who will the Democrates offer up next cycle?  Chelsea? Caroline Kennedy?

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 01:39 | 2085900 wisefool
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Please dont let it discourage you. The only reason a joke is funny is because there is a hint of truth in it. The reason violent/biggoted discourse never works is because it always produces the opposite result of what the agressor planned.

Ron Paul & WB7 2012.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 20:21 | 2085294 john39
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zionists are such total losers...

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 21:32 | 2085463 redcorona
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Except at monopoly where they seem to roll 'gimel' every time.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 22:48 | 2085627 Atlas_shrugging
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Anti-semites need to tongue my balls too

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 23:20 | 2085689 john39
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palestinians are semitic, most israelis are not (unless you believe bullshit propaganda, they are european)....  zionism refers to a (corrupt) philosophy, not a race.  you are sadly ignorant, so tongue your own sack.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 13:19 | 2086571 Things that go bump
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A woman I worked with is some sort of a Christian Zionist.  She belongs to some religious cult that is trying to hasten the end times for crying out loud.  She has actually gone over there with a tour group from her church and has been bused around to look at some new settlements.  I imagine they send money and other encouragements to selected splinter groups over there.  This is a very strange and possibly dangerous bunch.  She is very devote.  I wonder how many more are out there like her. 

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 13:36 | 2086600 DosZap
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Things that go bump

Yeah, she's strange, she is what you call a splinter group dangerous PROTESTANT.

Covers just about all American Christians.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 18:57 | 2087121 Kipper und Wipp...
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Really, she would be a believer in a particular strain of eschatology that is current, in fact, quite popular, among conservative American Protestants of the fundamentalist, evangelical, charismatic, pentecostal types, called dispensational premillenarianism, in addition to some sort of dual-covenant theology (e.g. believing that the covenant of God with Israel as laid out in the Old Testament is still current, instead of having been abrogated at the time of the introduction of the New Covenant.) This is not a part of classic protestantism and in the views of some, it is a dangerous heresy. I think the jury is still out on whether it is per se heretical, and I am not a trained theologian, but some of the implications are certainly dangerous and heretical, as it tends to emphasize Israel, Jews, and the Jewish Law over the universality of the Christian church, and cheer on war, whereas Christ, of course, said blessed are the peacemakers, but, above all, nowhere in scripture does it claim that Christians had ought to do what they can to hasten the coming of the Lord, in a geopolitical sense ... this is extremely heretical and anthropocentric, at it's worst, it becomes dominionism (which has a rather distinct eschatological outlook that is often postmillenial and non-dispensationalistic) and the like. Unfortunately, all of these ideas have gained popularity in the church ('church' in the broad sense) today, and the emphasis placed on them is inappropriate and morbid. Scripture everywhere says that we cannot know the time of the end, and acting as if we can is foolish.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 23:49 | 2087545 Things that go bump
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I am of the each to their own pursuasion, and personally prefer not to offend God with over-familiarity or constant demands for attention, so I found her religion overwrought.  I would certainly consider it dangerous to meddle in politics you know nothing about. 

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 01:34 | 2087807 Kipper und Wipp...
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I would certainly consider it dangerous to meddle in politics you know nothing about.

Certainly so.

And the Christian religion teaches that politics and religion ought not mix (rendering that which is Caesar's, etc.) and moreover that God is in control of the whole story ... even from a reasonable and faithful Christian perspective, even from a very conservative, literalist & non-relativistic hermenuetic, trying to hasten the end times through politics is dangerous stuff & as you put it quite well an offense to God. We are to know neither the day nor the hour and it is certainly not our business to try and meddle and change things. It is sad that these ideas have such currency with the religious public -- and not even just Christians but also various sects of Judaism (of the Zionist persuasion), and probably others as well (look to Sri Lankan history, e.g., for an example of violent and politicized Buddhism) ... although Islam, arguably, does have the effort by man, including by the sword, to change the course of history as a core tenant. Christians are to evangelize, perform works of charity, and so forth, but as to the coming of the kingdom of God we are to await it, but not try to establish it in worldly ways. Such is dangerous, and it is ripe for the exploitation of those who's ends are really entirely secular, worldly, and regrettable: neocons, imperialists & Zionists (the original crop of whom were of an anti-religious bent which in all practicality could even be called anti-Semetic; and the same crowd is now bolstered by religious fanatics in the same way that the neo-cons, who are every bit the anti-Christ secular humanists that the "godless liberals" are) are bolstered by fanatics of the Christian variety). All of this is part of the history of religion from time immemorial ... it is the nature of humanity to try to take these powerful, sublime things that we cannot really understand and "make merchandise" of them for economic, political, and suchlike gain. Jesus did not spare his words with these types

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 13:34 | 2086593 Atlas_shrugging
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All I see is premeditated murder being committed by "anti-zionists" and you supposed thinking humans putting admitted, premeditated murder on moral equivalence with an Israeli citizen's right to exist.  Somehow posting youtube links to conspiracy theories is also morally equivalent to murderers filming themselves, admitting outright murder of innocent civilians.  I liked you people better when you simply post "silver bitchez" so you can feel part of something.

Please...I love debating the irrational.  Show me something more than youtube videos and I'll gladly pay attention.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 00:16 | 2085782 Hugh G Rection
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Watch this documentary and tell me if you still like to tongue Israel's balls.

You hate Arabs? You're an anti-semite.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 02:12 | 2085928 DavidPierre
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As a journalist with an independent weekly newspaper based in Washington, D.C., Christopher Bollyn was caught up in the events of 9-11 from the minute it happened and was able to write freely about the terror attacks that were exploited to start the pre-planned War on Terror.

From his position as a skeptic of the unproven official version, he has examined the facts and evidence since the day it happened and has concluded that the U.S. government and controlled media have engaged in a conspiracy to deceive the world about what really happened on that terrible day.


A pdf for anyone with the time and intelligence to read and understand the TRUTH.

 9/11MORONS can skip it and return to their useless debating of the rigged ameriKlan elections or what team will win the mafia rigged Stupid Bowl.



Sun, 01/22/2012 - 02:44 | 2085950 Hugh G Rection
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I like the Patriots and the over.  10 years after 9/11, 10 years after Patriots won SB, the irony works well.

I still need something to talk with my 9/11MORON friends about ;-)

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 21:02 | 2085400 navy62802
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War ... it's what's for dinner.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 21:10 | 2085416 Jolly.Roger
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Sun, 01/22/2012 - 08:20 | 2086193 UBIGDummy
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Newt is going to be 2012's john McCain.  Newt is going to either be setup against Obama by the Media, or Romney is not going to concede so easily like last time, and its most likely going to be a brokered convention.  

I mean comon, The permiscous Salymander and Satanarium both have not gotten on 50 states ballots.  If that is not grass root support I don't know what is.

God help you guys, because I have already left the country.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 10:52 | 2086349 IrritableBowels
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Where to? 

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 07:50 | 2088107 FrankDrakman
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I mean comon, The permiscous Salymander

A product of South Carolina's education system, I presume?

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 20:09 | 2085260 spiral_eyes
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republicans can't win without ron paul supporters. 

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 20:13 | 2085268 my puppy for prez
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That is so right!  I will write him in if I damn have to!

It's official:  SC is the undoubtedly most IGNORANT state in the Union!  We should have let them permanently secede.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 20:30 | 2085319 Abiotic Oil
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Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars...

Are working very well...

Sadly enough...

To think that there are those out there who still watch broadcast TV...

and actually believe it...

I mean seriously...

Newt, Mitt and Rick are taken seriously....?

By anyone?

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 20:48 | 2085361 lolmao500
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Only in America.

The more I read about the Soviet Union, the more I see America has become worse.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 22:17 | 2085545 tarsubil
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Try telling a fellow raw raw American about how the income tax demonstates we are not free. Normal response: Fuck you, love it or leave it.

Guess we get to wait another 1000 years to wake up. So close.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 23:30 | 2085707 pods
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My favorite argument to get into.  Income tax=slavery. 

Nobody gets it.


Sat, 01/21/2012 - 23:13 | 2085678 Abiotic Oil
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The vast majority of Americans live behind the "Paper Curtain", completely oblivious to how they are manipulated.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 01:06 | 2085862 Harbanger
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The new walls around the border will be hard to escape.  And the US can finally have legitimate Czars.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 21:03 | 2085405 Manthong
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I have this desire to have a drink when thinking about how screwed we are politically and fiscally.

So I was trying to think out of the box as to what might be a surprising, yet pragmatic twist to appeal to the widest electoral segments.

So I thought of Gingrich-Paul in 2012..

RAND Paul, that is, with pledge to put Ron Paul in as Secretary of Treasury.

Think of the issues that addresses.

A pour or two of Macallan in a Reidel Vinum glass helps a bit with the out of the box thinking.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 21:32 | 2085466 AgShaman
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12....15.....or, 18?

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 21:58 | 2085521 Manthong
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A 12 for non-events.. a 30 for S&P 1050.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 23:01 | 2085658 WonderDawg
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The only problem with your theory is that is assumes the GOP actually wants to change anything. Gingrich putting RP in as Treasury Secretary? Jennifer Anniston will sit on my face before that ever happens. Here's to hoping.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 00:36 | 2085808 Manthong
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THAT would be a change.. here's to hope for change.

It would take a second coming to fix the mess we are in and that may be obvious to everyone by November.


Sat, 01/21/2012 - 23:06 | 2085668 Likstane
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Man-panty, You are exactly what is wrong with the current political scenario.  To think these two have anything in common is to expose your own ignorance and deception.  How does an advocate for big government/war machine/banker dominance/liar/adulterer/thief play politics with a son of an advocate of the constitution.  You are as much of an enemy of real adherance to freedom as the current administration. Go suck down a couple more plastic bottles of Macaw piss in a paper cup and crawl back in the box.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 01:57 | 2085917 Manthong
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“How does an advocate for big government/war machine/banker dominance/liar/adulterer/thief play politics with a son of an advocate of the constitution.”

Look skippy, it’s a thought, not an endorsement. I will vote for Paul in March, but my thought was for a twist on a more likely presidential candidate going into the general.

You nailed it.. it’s playing politics. Nothing about it is pretty.  Say what you will about him (even though true) but he has been more of a change agent for control of government than anyone since Reagan.

The Pauls are patriots in a cesspool of politicians. You’ve got to work with what you’ve got.

The trick is to get in first and then try to effect change. And it will take incredible effort as well as a degree of ruthlessness.

Unfortunately, it probably won’t make a damn bit of difference because this mule is so screwed there won’t be a chance for anybody to fix it.

And for chrissake, it’s a THONG.. in camo.. but only for formal occasions. Usually I go commando and let everything on and below the service belt dangle.

And you should try a sip of this stuff, it goes very nicely with a Macanudo.


Sun, 01/22/2012 - 13:23 | 2086575 Things that go bump
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Are you going to write him in if he is not on the ballot? 

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 15:45 | 2086835 Manthong
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If's he's not, it does not matter who gets in.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 17:18 | 2090289 Likstane
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Not a drinker- I'll stick with the OJ. My point is that ANY compromise with the pukes who want to subvert the constitution by a step at a time or all at once should be treated the same.  The "trick" is not "to get in first and then try to effect change".  There is no trick.  Right policy is an inflexible adherance to the constitution and NOTHING less.  I will probably die for this attitude.  Oh well.  Agreed, the mule is toast; I'm glad my life doesn't end here.  As for the panty, I'm glad it works for you, but for me a combo brief/boxer has been a fixture package wrap for many a year. 

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 23:42 | 2085724 optimator
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Your post reminded me that a nice Extra Dry Tanguray Gin Martini would calm me a bit.  Pour whatever vermouth onto ice, then pour it out of the glass and add the gin.   I don't think I care anymore.   If Dr. Paul will be ignored it doesn't matter which one of "The Others" gets in, they're all cut from the same pattern and all owned puppets.  I will get some pleasure writing in Ron Pauls name however.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 20:39 | 2085344 Chupacabra-322
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@ my puppy for prez, + Infinity.......

And I think most of them are inbred as well. 

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 21:56 | 2085518 my puppy for prez
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Maybe Rockefeller eugenics WASN'T such a bad

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 23:45 | 2085734 Chupacabra-322
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@ my puppy for prez, speaking of Rockefeller....

Rockefellers :

The book is entitled “The Grandees – America’s Sephardic Elite.” The author is Stephen Birmingham, who is recognized by the Jewish community as an expert on Jewish history. The work was compiled by the Jewish historian Malcolm H. Stern and entitled “Americans of Jewish Decent.” That book weighed 10 pounds and gave the history of 25,000 Jewish individuals in America. It is extremely interesting to note that only 550 copies of the book were printed and each copy was consecutively numbered. The book was delivered to the top Jewish community leaders in America for their personal reference files in dealing with and contacting Jews who are “Marranos” (those Jews who “PRETEND” to be Christians in their community but secretly hold to their Jewish faith and race when among their own kind).

 Mr. Birmingham in “The Grandees” reports: “Who would expect to find the Rockefellers in the book.” Stern’s work traces what he calls the “Nobility of Jewry – the Sephardim who lived in Spain and Portugal as princes of the land.” Many centuries ago the Jews flooded into Spain in great numbers and through usury and stealth became vast land owners. The Jews controlled both Spain and Portugal through their monopoly over the finances of the country.

It was in 1492 that King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella of Spain expelled the Jews from their country and confiscated their ill-gotten wealth. It was during this period that the Rockefeller family moved to the Turkish Empire which welcomed the Jews at that time, believing them to be a “poor persecuted people.”

 The grandfather of our former Vice-President Nelson Rockefeller, admitted that his family once moved from Turkey to France. It was from France that they moved to America. John D. Rockefeller, Sr., was a wealthy man even before he took over Standard Oil Co., which made their family one of the richest in the world. No one has ever explained how this family came into such wealth as soon as they arrived in America from France.


Sat, 01/21/2012 - 22:06 | 2085525 Chupacabra-322
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South Carolina keeps voting for the social deviant, Lindsey Graham. Why start voting responsible now. Of course they’ll vote for a douchebag.

Graham, the alleged pervert homosexual who would send his mother to GITMO for torture if AIPAC told him to do it…

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 22:19 | 2085553 tarsubil
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The problem with Graham is that he is a lying cheating piece of shit. If he were honest and for freedom, I wouldn't give two shits that he is a faggot.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 23:43 | 2085729 optimator
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These guys would knife themselves in the back if it would move them foreward an inch more!

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 00:35 | 2085805 Lednbrass
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Well, if you can get some signed documents on that secession thing there are many who would love to take you up on it.  I know I'd vote for it in a heartbeat if I were allowed to, Im pretty well sick of having to share a country with the likes of NY, California, and their like as well as the chest shaving, whining metrosexual she males that inhabit them. SC has its flaws like anywhere, but given the outright political stupidity of much of the north and left coast it is nowhere near the top of the ignorance scale.

People wanted a way to smack the repub establishment who has been pushing Romney as inevitable, and they picked Newt as the way to do that because his political career was out of Georgia.  Folks knew that a not Romney had to come out on top in order to keep him as the "inevitable" nominee so they coalesced around the guy whose political career was in Georgia. Since Perry commited suicide here with the illegals comment there werent any southerners in the race and he was the closest thing. I like Paul, but he did not sell himself here and could have done better if he had hammered hard on states rights.

He isnt going to be the nominee, and Im not at all surprised that people picked Newt as the "not Romney".

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 12:37 | 2086513 Randall Cabot
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The fact that they chose Newt as the non-Romney is the glaring indictment of their ignorance. They think NWO Newt is for states rights? And Ron Paul isn't? Pathetic!

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 13:43 | 2086608 Randall Cabot
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Gingrich’s Third Wave Plan for America

And just what kind of "culture" does Mr. Gingrich want to see take hold in America? In my insightful, eye-opening book, Circle of Intrigue, I unmask the traitorous anti-American intentions of Gingrich and his associates in crime. "I have an enormous political ambition," Gingrich told the Washington Post. "I want to shift the entire planet and I’m doing it."

This planetary shift of Gingrich’s takes a number of dangerous forms. It is, in fact, all part of the revolutionary socialist movement which Gingrich calls the "Third Wave." The Plan calls for nothing less than to radically change America into a fascist "paradise" with citizens stripped of constitutional rights. What is planned is a virtual high tech prison, an Orwellian Police State superintended by the self-appointed "Masters."

Gingrich has not been shy about presenting his "Third Wave" Plan. He flatly states that his goal is to end the old America forever. Insiders Alvin and Heidi Toffler (Jews) enlisted the endorsement of Gingrich and the three set forth this plan in the Tofflers’ sinister Illuminist volume, Creating a New Civilization. Gingrich actually wrote the foreword for this ungodly, anti-American book. Here are just a few of Third Wave principles espoused in the book by the Tofflers and Gingrich:

The time has come for the next great step forward in American politics. It is not a matter of Democrats versus Republicans, or of left and right...but something more significant...a clear distinction between rear-guard politicians who wish to preserve or restore an unworkable past and those who are ready to transition to what we call a "Third Wave" information-age society…

A new civilization is emerging in our lives, and blind men everywhere are trying to suppress it. This new civilization brings with it new family styles, changed ways...a new economy, new political conflicts, and...altered consciousness... Humanity faces a quantum leap forward. This is the meaning of the Third Wave…

Our argument is based on what we call the "revolutionary premise"... The revolutionary premise liberates our intellect and will.

Nationalism is...First Wave. The globalization of business and finance required by advancing Third Wave economies routinely punctures the national "sovereignty" the nationalists hold so dear...</EM

As economies are transformed by the Third Wave, they are compelled to surrender part of their sovereignty... Poets and intellectuals of Third Wave states sing the virtues of a "borderless" world and "planetary consciousness."

The Third Wave...demassifies culture, values, and morality... There are more diverse religious belief systems.

The Constitution of the United States needs to be reconsidered and create a whole new structure of government... Building a Third Wave civilization on the wreckage of Second Wave institutions involves the design of new, more appropriate political structures... The system that served us so well must, in its turn, die and be replaced.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 20:56 | 2085385 johngaltfla
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Good luck convincing the morons of that. And feel sorry for us Floridians...the Circus is coming to our town! (literally with Moochelle dropping by next week)

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 22:39 | 2085609 spiral_eyes
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it's a mathematical fact. if we don't get a big chunk of meat like rand as VP we will just write in Ron Paul and Obama will win. The way it is going with the alternating media ignorance and attacks we might just do that anyway. At least Obama has Panetta in his administration who is not as keen to start WW3 as Santorum, Romney or Gingrich.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 22:54 | 2085637 BooMushroom
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If Paul (either one) won 25% of the vote based on write-ins, would it be reported anywhere?

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 22:58 | 2085645 spiral_eyes
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Who cares if it's reported? It's one more vote Romney or whoever is nominated won't have...

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 23:16 | 2085684 johngaltfla
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I'm sorry I've missed the last few comments here. I had to get the paddles out and shock my heart awake. When Gingrich admitted Ron Paul was right, I think I had a heart attack....

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 23:40 | 2085723 erg
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Hello johngaltfla. I was a fan of your blovel (The Day the Dollar Died) under the pseudonym of Hank Rearden.

Nice to see you again.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 00:00 | 2085748 johngaltfla
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I hate to break this to you, but my pseudonym was "John Galt" and always has been. That's how the original work was published in 2009 also...

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 00:19 | 2085788 erg
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I hate to break this to you; I never uttered nary a word about your presumed pseudonym. Only my own. You're identifiable here by your avatar.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 10:52 | 2086350 johngaltfla
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My was a long day and night, sorry about that.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 23:01 | 2085654 nmewn
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Michelle Antoinette deigns to grace us with her presence?

Oh, happy days!

Surely she will not come at anyone elses expense but her own and be transported about in the most eco-friendly way possible as she has always done.

She's such a light in an otherwise corrupt and greed stricken world ;-)

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 21:11 | 2085422 packeteerist
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Screw the corporate media watch SC returns on Revolution PAC's streaming video:


Sat, 01/21/2012 - 21:16 | 2085437 I think I need ...
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the republicans dont want to win,,,,just like the last 4 they want no parts of the next 4

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 00:40 | 2085804 Harbanger
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Yeah and Obama doesn't really want to win either.  If you think RP a Libertarian, at this critical time in this Country, would prefer Obama, his Czars, his Healthcare Bill and his grinding of the Constitution over a Republican, then how can you be for RP.  He doesn't want Obama re-elected.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 23:15 | 2085683 dejapfc
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Like establishment cares who is the president,Romney,Obama or Gingrich.They don't give a rats ass who wins,so long it's not Ron Paul.You people need to get it through your skull that RP wont be alowed to win,period.So better prepare accordingly.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 02:48 | 2085954 Raymond Reason
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You nailed it.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 05:29 | 2086088 non_anon
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yep, I'll just have to write RP in again on my ballot as I did in '08

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 23:54 | 2085740 Harbanger
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Great!  Obama's good for Gold prices anyhow, fck the country.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 12:03 | 2086437 flattrader
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All I see from that graph is a Ron Paul candidacy (and his supporters) eroding Republican support in any match-up except Obama v. Romney.

Ron Paul is done as a Republican candidate after Super Tuesday.  Oddly enough, the religious right voters who comprise the majority of primary voters have no interest in him.  His Christian Reconstructionist nutball core supporters are too few and too extreme to have any real impact.  They have proven to be an big embarrassment in at least one case and a major "tell" in others.

Those of you who have fantasies of a brokered Republican convention where Ron Paul and his delegates will have any influence (assuming he doesn't go third party) may want to explore the intricacies of delegate commitment and binding on a state by state basis and how that plays out in the backrooms and on the floor of the actual convention during 1st ballot, 2nd, etc...round voting...if it ever comes to that.

I can tell from the various fantasy-based posts that none of you have a clue.


Sat, 01/21/2012 - 20:13 | 2085265 Conrad Murray
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Hang them all.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 20:13 | 2085267 clones2
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Ron Paul should be getting more support from the GOP.  If he decides to run as an Independant... Obama most likely wins re-election as Paul would take too many Republican votes...

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 20:16 | 2085277 The Count
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"...should be getting..."

you do not get that both the dems and the reps are crapping their pants full at the idea Ron Paul might be getting somewhere. The 2 party system is a sham that the powers that be will perpetuate at any cost.



Sat, 01/21/2012 - 20:33 | 2085329 booboo
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Sat, 01/21/2012 - 21:32 | 2085467 Caggge
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When Newt the scumbag beats you in an election, you know you are a hated man. Mitt!! You dipshit!!  No one likes or trusts you!!

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 20:49 | 2085367 lolmao500
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Yeah the GOP rather see Obama win than let Ron Paul get a chance.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 21:07 | 2085412 Deo vindice
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That is the sad but true state of affairs.

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 22:15 | 2085542 SofaPapa
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From the point of view of the GOP, at least Obama is playing the same game.  He may have a different mode of action, but the rules are the same.  Ron Paul may represent a genuinely different game.  Neither party can allow that.  No way, no how.  As you said earlier in the comments, the only question remaining is how numb our population has become.  Eventually enough people will see the game for what it is.  What happens then is anyone's guess.  I sure don't know.

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