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Freedom Fries Versus Suppression Soda
And so it is written; thou shalt not drink big soda upon the veritable streets of New York City. As the Village Voice reports, the NY Board of Health just passed Bloomberg's soda ban proposal banning sugary drinks in more than 16-ounce cups. Of course, none of this should come as a surprise as repression swings from financial to social - what next? No more 8-year-old chimney-sweeps? No more untested drugs on the market? Free-speech suppression on YouTube? As WSJ notes: During the first three months after the ban takes effect, the city will inspect and inform sellers when they are not in compliance with the law. The city will allow a three-month grace period before it begins issuing notice of violations that are subject to fines. Will there be soda hoarding? 'I Drink 17-ounces-at-a-time' T-Shirts?
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Peak Suger Bitchezz!!!
Maybe this will get the food stamp fatties to pay attention... you know a government that has the power to give you everything can also take it away? Naw... this is just for our safety and health.
More than anything, it is just plain stupid that anyone thought this shit up. Drink 16ounces at a time times 4 or one 64 ouncer. Who gives a shit? Dumb ass politicians just want to control people.
Maybe we should be attacking mayoral homes and governor's mansions. I'm sure Obama would apologize for the mayors and givernors then. What a fucked up country, what a fucked up world.
Can we please get some libertarians into office? I know who I am voting for.
By the way, does the sugar in alcohol count? Is this a racist attempt to take away our 40s?
I'll just buy two 8-oz sodas, bitchez!
You know, If you didn't water the soda down, a 64 oz soda probably would fit in a 16 oz cup, cut out the ice as well, and you can probably fit it into an 8 oz cup. hmmmmm. I think Bloomberg has just increased soda consumption efficiency immensly.
You can't put that grape drink into the streets uncut! Are you mad, man?!
New 7-11 drink deal: "The Double Fister" 2x 16oz drinks
Have you noticed that Humor Day is coming earlier and earlier in the week. Soon everyday will be Humor Day.
FREEDOM WORDS, METAL BIRDS
Be careful saying Freedom Words!
Cus they got Metal Birds!
Betta watch what you say! Or You will get a Pepper Spray!
bought a soda over 16 Ounces?
Major Mike Bloomberg Pounces!
He Kettled kids shouting Freedom words!
Sprayed down by the brown shirt Turds!
WHEN does Bloomberg run into his term limit?
THEY HATE US FOR OUR SOFT DRINKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
'I Drink 17-ounces-at-a-time' T-Shirts?
Check it out: NYC 17 OZ SOFT DRINK BOOTLEGGER T-SHIRT
http://skreened.com/artstuff/nyc-16-ounces-limit
Support the cause!
I'd prefer a shirt that said "Screw the Criminal, Corrupt, and Illegitimate Government!"
What people do with their 64 oz of carbonated water and 4 oz shot of soda syrup after I sell it to them is their own business.
who the fuck will enforce this?
are they gonna test your drink TSA style?
if i was in new york i'd buy a 64 oz cup and fill it with water just to fuck with big brother
what about plastic 2 liter bottles?
fuck i hate democrats
and nazis
As I type this I have a Big Gulp sitting on the desk in front of me. *slurp* Enjoy your tiny sodas and spray-and-pray cops, New York...you got what you voted for.
Hey! Be nice to us Nazis. We have feelings too.
SCHULTZ! Take care of JQP.
Vee have vays!
Heard on NPR (don't judge me) this morning that 7-11 is regulated as a grocery store (WTF?), and is therefore exempt from the new restrictions...the Big Gulp lives, bitchez!!!
It's 99.1 percent pure grape.
Grape is good for you. It's full of antioxidants.
Bloomberg says thanks for the extra taxes.
with, or without ice?
52 ounces.....and still pouring bitchez!
Keep those French fries to yourselves....just super-size my steak fries. Yeah....I said steak. That's probably gonna piss someone off too.
Yes, of course it's stupid.
But you want to know what's also stupid? Free healthcare for everyone, no matter what your lifestyle or weight is. Promising to pay for something and then letting the beneficiary control the price is frankly nuts. I frankly don't want to pay for some fat shit's diabetes problem or some stupid smoker's fucked-up lungs.
So pick one: Free healthcare and some controls over abusing your body. Or freedom to abuse your body, and you pay for your own damn healthcare.
+1 Right on.
Want to be a ward of the state? Be a good bitch and do as you're told by the folks flipping the bill for your irresponsibility and lack of motivation. Want to be left alone? Opt out of the state-sponsored slave rat race. Barter, grow yer own, stop trading fiat for goods and services. Find every means possible to contribute as little as possible to the machine...be the friction, slow it down. We need choices and our corporate oligarchs and 'political representatives' ain't offering much.
Free healthcare?
What are you complaining about, CUBA?
That's the conversation that I never really heard. If we want single payer healthcare, and most do, why not pay for it with taxes on things that obviously are unhealthy. Put soda on the same cost basis as fresh juice or smoothie. Mc D's on the same cost basis as health food store sandwich. If you want to eat shit that makes you sick, pay as you go. Now it is obvious that details of such a plan would be ripe for manipulaion by Bus./Gov. But, when it comes to behavior modification, both macro and micro, in this country money talks!
Why should anyone have to pay? Just have the Chairsatan print the cash up to cover it all.....
I'll take a large order of Freedom, smothered in accountability, please.
Manhattanites have a tendency to elect little Napoleon-complex types as their mayor.
Guiliani was a great start. Bloomberg just took it to the next level.
I'm going to make a point of carrying around a 40oz BK cup whenever possible. (That's generally how I carry my rum-cokes in public, anyway...)
If I'm lucky, the cops will ask me where I got it and I can plead the fifth, or maybe just sic 'em on any business nearby that I feel would benefit from more government harassment.
Julian from Tailer Park Boys ALWAYS had his rum and coke handy - -even in jail!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trailer_Park_Boys
If you think you are the name on a driver's license or a birth certificate then this ban applies to you.
If you do not let a piece of paper or plastic identify you, then why would you want to drink this garbage?
I am Chumbawamba.
most of those jumbo drinks are probably diet anyway... with a massive dose of rumsfeld approved nerve toxins, er, aspartame....
You are taking the progressive's bait - "it's for your own good". Believing this does not confer the right to enforce your belief on others.
didn't mean to imply that at all. on the contrary, i consider most government regulation a form of fascism designed to control the population. just pointing out how the fascists are working against each other on this... it all gets a bit crazy. after all, it seems obvious that it has been official government policy to promote poor health by subsidizing mass production of poor quality junk food, pathetically harmful dietary guidelines (food pyramid anyone), and poor medical care... pills over addressing underlying issues... so, why the sudden change of heart? don't they want us all dead anyway?
pathetically harmful dietary guidelines (food pyramid anyone)
In primary school my kid was being taught this garbage. I set him down & told him that it was wrong, but he had to give them the answers they wanted for the test. He got it. Then he witnessed the Chino CA slaughterhouse debacle. He NEVER ate a school lunch again.
I wrote a line about Bloomberg in this trailer - check it out!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRZYZzlcgAM
I wrote a line about Bloomberg in this trailer - check it out!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRZYZzlcgAM
This is wrong angle, they need to attack this at the healthcare angle. Abuse yourself you pay more for healthcare.
Maybe start here...
yes or you get true charity care. Not the taxpayers forced at gun point care they call 'charity' care now.
Your 3rd point has zero effect on people with a strong family structures, they just move all of the assets out of elder person's name and into other family member's names long before the time arrives for end of life care.
Have you ever tried to price the service your doctors gives you against another doctor? We could start with making pricing discovery applicable again and get rid of the complexity. Most of the time the doctors do not even know what the service costs. They have to ask the insurance company. Great system. ./sarc We got this soda thing nailed in NYC.
You are correct. Medicare and Worker's Comp are essentially the only insurers that readily provide the fee schedule to the doctors, only because they are required to by law.
Aetna, United Healthcare, WellPoint, Cigna, Humana, BCBS, etc. all make it very difficult, if not practically impossible, for the physician to determine what the reimbursement actually is, and thus appeal underpayments.
All blame, however, is squarely on the physicians. They sign the provider agreements without a fee schedule attached, ignorant and scared mother fuckers.
doctors are illness managers. they know little to nothing about health, and what makes a person healthy. if you want real health, don't waste your time with a doctor, you have to do your own homework, week through the oceans of disinformation... and learn how to maintain a healthy body.... once you do this, you won't need the medical system much anyway. consider it a return on investment. the slobs who are too lazy to even consider this... are going to the slaughter that is american sickcare.
Anyone have a recommendation for a doctor in NYC? Probably get better recommendation here at ZH than any other place. I would like to find a doctor who is not a illness manager, read the black swan, well read on fractal geometry, well read on complex adaptive systems, and is a critical thinker.
John 39. Awesome +100 if I could.
**a few edits
@jayman21, I too have some health issues that Drs.were only treating the effects. Nothing towards the cure. My Rhumo., Neuro., and GP scoffed @ me when I told them internet research showed a better way.
I don't see them anymore.
If you can tell me what's going on w/you I'd be more than happy to help if I can. I am finally making progress myself.
If not here remember ZH offers us personal/private email.
I'll check back to see if you respond.
John39 is right.
How VERY DARE YOU! suggest personal responsibility!!!! HOW FUCKING DARE YOU!
Don't you go holding them accountable for their words!
Fuck 16 oz soda. Drink 40 oz of malt liquor instead! That's still legal, right?
YEAYYUUHH!! Sodahead13 chugging Coke - YouTube
Job creation FTMFW: "soda SIZE inspector".
All I could read is "SIZE inspectrice".
I'm thinking it's about time to drive my RV into the middle of the forest and spend my time watching the chipmunks play
You'll need a permit first...
Also, you will need to make sure your RV passes the annual safety test. Don't forget to make sure you are current on your emission's test's as well.
Will you be driving your RV? Because if so you need to make sure you are up to date with insurance as well.
There's no way to escape the borg, unless one just chooses to say fuck it and completely disobey.
I live in Fl.
No annual safety check.
No emission tests.
Had ins. w/Gov. motors acceptance corp. but recently saved 50% by going thru Progressive Ins. Not joking! Paid for a whole year.
But you all are right w/the "permit" issue.
However I did spend 3 mos. in Nortern Ca.redwood forest once.
Just pulled off the road,wiggled thru some trees and nobody bothered me.What can they do but tell me to leave as has happened more than once before.
Just more than tired of this shit.
BTW, Those silver "space" blankets used for camping/survival block your "heat signature".Maybe I should get about 50 of them and cover it.
You'll need a permit to do that...so you can't really escape this shit.
OT
The flaming cocktails are now being served!
http://rt.com/on-air/cairo-clashes-us-embassy/
What happens if they catch you three times drinking soda over the limit? Throw you in jail. Three strikes law apply?
What happened to "freedom" or is it just another word for nothing else to lose, quoted from an old song
"What happened to "freedom" or is it just another word for nothing else to lose, quoted from an old song"
I think the SA miners are humming this these days
I'll let you know if I find out for sure, but I don't think there's any law against drinking big sodas, or owning them, or even trading them. Folks just can't sell them at a place of business.
I believe this is really just intended to give the cops an excuse to harrass the roach-coach owners and pizzerias.
It's all in keeping with Bloomberg's vision of Manhattan as a sort of "theme park" for the rich, though. He can set whatever rules he wants, no one who lives there seems to mind.
Infuckingcredible.
So now we have soda counters. When in the hell are the peasants going to kick Bloomfucker out of Bloomfuckistan? I wonder how bloomfuck will feel when the styrofoam cup usage goes up because people order two drinks.
I knew it was a very good idea to keep a stash of xtra large cups. "Can I get a refill please?"
And you bitchez thought investing in gold was the smartest idea.
I used to have a lot of xtra large cups I'd been stacking for years.
Unfortunately, there was a boating mishap. :(
LOL!
You guys w/the boating accidents make those Spanish Schooners look like pikers.
I swear my next business will be a dredging concern!
Effin hillarious Dr. Engali ! Well done. :-)
Can I carry two drinks at a time?
Soda avoidance will be right up there with Tax avoidance.
yeah, there's always a loophole in these laws
- just buy 10 16-oz'ers at a time
How long until some enterprising person comes up with 15.9 oz cups?
don't they charge relatively more for smaller container sizes? hmmm.... hide inflation, more profit..... build the police state further into the consciousness.... all starting to make sense.
Yes...but first you have to get a permit to do so.
Que the buy one, get one free sodas.
Unfortunately, years later the fascists will be making possession of 16oz or more of sugary drInks wIll become a jaIlable offense(later the definition of sugary shall be expanded).
sign says you have to have a membership card to get inside, sign says you can't be supersized, where is the sign that says government should keep their stinking nose out of the american people's personal business
The key will now be to find those secret spots where they will use more of the concentrated "mix" in your soda, say triple it. Like a speak easy for sugar freaks.
Drinks over 16 ounces will not fit into Bloomberg's new "microapartments."
Wait, is it illegal to SELL these or to DRINK these? If I have an old 7-11 cup and I fill it up with a tasty beverage and go outside is this in violation??
Will the chocolate ration also be increased?
Unintended consequences in action :
"We have observed that the sales of 16oz sodas have doubled since the last few days in NYC. We are still in the process of trying to figure out why, but a few persons interrogated have noticed a new trend : people walking out of fast food restaurants with two drinks instead of one. More to come when we know what's happening."
great consequence... more garbage!!!!
Another reason to stay away from that pretentious shithole that Bloomturd calls home!
youtube is already heavily censored... usually bogus copyright claims are enough to take down certain vids that the cabal deems damaging to its interests or fascism in general.
Let them eat Cardboard!
Fuck that; let them eat lead...
Damn bootleggers.
Hello Mr, drinks vendor, I'd like to buy a 16oz soda please.
I'm sorry sir, I can't do that - it's against the law.
OK then, can I have two 8oz sodas?
Certainly sir. Would you like an extra large cup with those?
Thank you, I would.
No problem, here's an empty 16oz cup. Enjoy your drink, oops, I mean 'Drinks' sir.
...oh you cynical fool. Have you read the 2500 page law they have written to cover this action. Do you actual believe your political rulers would be so simple-minded?
Just wait for Obamacare to kick in. TOTAL loss of personal liberty.
Exactly, Obama has always said his focus was controlling cost. Starving the republicans would be a good way to achieve two goals. He is such a wise man....just ask Michael Lewis.
The manufacturing of 15 Oz cups has already started. I guarantee it.
15.99999 0z cups. ;)
Now you can expect a smaller cup, but the same price.
I would like a Big Gulp please.
Those are illegal.
What do you have in more than 16oz sizes?
You can buy a fifth of vodka or a handle of Beam.
Cool. Swipe my EBT.
NYC used to be such a great city. It was my favorite place to live.
Then the no smoking in bars, insane cigarette tax, that's about when I moved out. I'm glad I did. It's been downhill ever since.
New Yorkers, once upon a time, had a spine. Now it's a city of fucking gerbils. A bunch of cowering, obedient pussies.
Such a pity.
Yes, last Wednesday when those idiots in Giant Stadium cheered the pre-game flyover by Black Helicopters told me a lot about the police state and its widespread support.
God help us all!
Tuco
The start of sporting events in the US have, for quite a while now, felt like live reenactments of the Leni Riefenstahl's "Triumph of the Will".
It's shameful.
Don't forget about John Elway doing the puff piece video for DHS and their black-mask anti-terror commercials.
So shall it be wriiten, so shall it be done. The law is what ever these fuckheads decide the law is and it can/will change/be applied as they deem necessary. Any more questions peasant?
I don't like to share my 6 pack.
communism, bitchez. homeland security/spying. CHECK. feeling up your wives and daughters at airports. CHECK. price controls. CHECK. telling you what you can drink. CHECK.
I want a goddamn litre o' cola!
"they hate us because of our freedoms'...."
yeah, what a great country....
our freedoms....both of them
the right to die
the right to pay taxes
yee fucking haw
SOLUTION: buy a 16oz drink, get a 12oz drink free. capitalism, bitchez.
Two cups equals twice the paper.
We are well on our way to hitting peak inefficiency thanks to Communist-style central planning.
Can I still buy a 16oz pint in the local "watering hole"?
Yes, for now. But give it time.
Hitler was 100% correct about mickey bloomberg and his inbred tribe.
Nothing surprises me anymore. After buying off counsel members to steal a third terms, Blumberg steals Brooklyn property through eminent domain for his best friend and is now trying to dictate the way we live. There you go people who provided this scum bag with a third term.
Right on. Take land via eminent domain, pay off the unions with the offer of milk work, and auction the naming rights, so now, $1.5 billion later, it's BARCLAYS center. Fascist POS.
But remember, Bloomberg is "pro-choice".
Too bad his mother wasn't.
Actually, Bloomberg is more like "pro-abortion."
But who can blame him? He's an employer, and when his female human resources get knocked up, it costs him money.
They should change the city motto from "The City that Never Sleeps" to "The City that Does as it's told regardless of how fucking preposterous it is".
I'm now going to get on the phone and call everyone I know in NYC and laugh at them for being such spineless pussies. (and that's a lot of phone calls)
WORD
I cant wait to see the speak easy 20 oz bars.
Can I still get popcorn in a 5 gallon bucket at a movie theatre?
Yes, but only heavily salted. The soda limitation still stands. Stay thirsty, my friend.
NYC inspectors,
Do me my self and I a favour. Fuck off. If I want to drink a gallon of fucking fizzy pop, what in fucks name has it got to do with any of you cunts?
We should start enforcing the law on the inspectors folks. They come inspecting us? We fill the fuckers full of non-compliance holes.
This world is beyond mad...
Ok, so try and bust me for drinking from my 2 liter coke jug purchased at the local box grocery.
Revolution drinking Bitchez!
They could also use those Tees from Singapore...a "fine" city.
Worry not; the ban only applies to restaurants, theaters and food carts. You can still drag your fat asses to a 7-11 and get your 1/2 gallon soda. Also, no stopping resturants from offering 15 ounce sodas that you can refill as many times as you liike.
Given the limited resourses of ol' Planet Earth...... don't we need people to die? Seriously.... think what this place would be like if everyone lived to be 100.
don't we need people to die?
Feel free to lead by example.
Great idea! You first. I'll join you as soon as I finish my Big Gulp.
“If drinking soft drinks induced abortion, NYC Mayor Michael Bloomberg would require restaurants to serve 64 ounce sodas.” – James G. Bruen, Jr.
I happen to think it would be truly epic and poetic if something like this were to spark the revolution. I mean how fitting if the only thing to get this fat fucking lazy ass country to wake up was a ban on their super sized drinks!
Would be hilarious for the history books.
This is no frivolous matter (albeit that Tyler's headline is a show stopper). This ha-ha is what tyranny looks like. First, they slap your wrists, and then they put the handcuffs on.
Bloomberg’s Big Brother fascist hypocrisy is sort of like Chicago’s Jewish Mayor Rahm Emanuel’s efforts to silence Americans from espousing traditional values using their right to free speech by attempting to block a fast food chain from expanding in his city, saying “Chick-fil-A’s values are not Chicago values.”
“What a relief!” said commentator Greg Gutfield. “For the chain, that is, given what pose for values” in the city whose prime export is corpses. According to NBC Chicago, Chi Town is unbeatable when it comes to violence.
“Chicago has roughly 20 murders for 100,000 people. That's double Moscow, three times New York City and twice Mexico City. When you have to go to Mexico to get away from the crime, you've got problems.”
Stamp Tax anyone?
Err, hold on... 16oz is less than 500ml. That seems like the normal size for a bottle of soft drinky.
if selling is the crime now...what about simple possession? do I have to narc on the korean who still has a secret stash of 22oz arizone ice tea?
tell him to put the offending device down and to step away from it
It's just another way Mayor Choomberg is helping NYC businesses. Can't afford the tax increase to pay for the compliance inspection and the bribe for the inspector on top of the hundreds and hundreds of existing city codes, statues, and ordinances? Too fucking bad, a government-approved franchise corporation will buy you out for pennies on the dollar. If you have some nice real estate, we'll just jack up your property taxes or fine your for a code violation until you bow down and comply by going out of business and becoming a wage slave.
You think Choomberg doesn't know who butters his bread?
The part where Choomberg and his progressive East Coast liberal elite pals laugh (all the way to fucking bank [where they redistribute your wealth]) about how wonderfully servile their NYC serf colony is - this is just an added bonus.
couldn't they just stealth shrink the drinks like everything else in the grocery store we buy now?
Bernanke just took care of the tax increase for Bloomfuk.
Bloomturd is looking out for our health & welfare. He CARES. I'm sure HFCS will be addressed next as will FrankenFood.
Next unintended consequence: methane capture. For energy independence.
All of them from WS to DC fkg rodents of questionable heritage!
SAFETY the most dangerous concept
The whole point of this exercise was to see if they could get this law passed in the first place. Now that they have, Bloomturd and Co. will start tightening the screws and become even more totalitarian in the name of public health and safety. This was another test marketing kind of thing to see how much of this crap people will take. Coming soon to Your Town, USA. See ya on the FunWay bitchez.....
This was a foregone conclusion as soon as it was proposed. Because it's a "health measure", it doesn't need to go to the City Council. Wouldn't matter anyway since the City Council is 53-8 stocked with members of the Democrat-Fascist party. Instead, it was passed by the Board of Health which is entirely made up of Bloomberg's hired health nazi stooges.
UN-FUCKING-REAL!!!
So now they can carge you more for less, the multi corps are likely in on it.
He supports limits to your freedom, just not term limits. What a fuckin' Jew asshole. He can "just pay more, or buy two smaller ones" or have one of the members of his battalion get whatever he wants. Everything is so EASY when you have a billion dollars, right?
Same way with CCW and all the BULLSHIT he makes people do to buy, license and use firearms. Sorry we aren't all billionaires with a battalion of personal and taxpayer-provided cops and bodyguards, ya fuckin' Jew asshole.
A couple of years ago, there was a blizzard on Christmas Day when we got almost two feet of snow. The streets weren't plowed for days although I heard the plowed the bike lanes in Manhattan right away. Bloomberg was MIA (he was at his mansion in Bermuda). When people asked where was he during all this, he said "None of your business!" Seriously, he said that.
Yet, he thinks everything that we do is his business and has no problems with using the force of law to dictate how he wants us to live. I hate to say this, but he's one of those busybody Jews who gets off on lecturing everyone on how they should live. Except this clown has a squad of hired police goons to keep his ass from getting kicked.
The Socialist/democrats need you hooked on sugar so comodity prices maintain growth % lulzbank. Central Bankster American foodstamps are a government ponzy scheme, same with mimimum wage to buy your $1 soda. Unions hahaha..
'I Drink 17-ounces-at-a-time' T-Shirts?
Check it out:
NYC 17 OZ SOFT DRINK BOOTLEGGER T-SHIRT
http://skreened.com/artstuff/nyc-16-ounces-limit
Time to vote with your feet people... get the fuck out of NYC. Join the 1000s that have already bailed on that socialist cesspool.
No, stay right where you are, New Yorkers. I'm tired of you infecting my state with your particular brand of insanity.