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French Magazine Portrays Prophet Mohammad Naked In Cartoons, Set To Further Infuriate Muslim World

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It's almost as if someone is actively trying to force the Muslim world to launch an all out war against the "developed" west. A week ago, it was a film mocking Mohammad which led to the death of the US ambassador in Libya. Today, it is a French magazine which has ridiculed the Prophet Mohammad by portraying him naked in cartoons, which, as Reuters logically adds, "threatens to fuel the anger of Muslims around the world who are already incensed by a film depiction of him as a womanizing buffoon." It is as if the anti-Iran strategy of antagonizing the country to its breaking point, merely so the first attack comes from them in response to endless provocations, and a defensive retaliation can be spun to the "free world", has now been adopted against the entire Muslim world now, and all the insolvent Western countries are praying they get attacked just so the media spin will coalesce the sheep around the "developed" democracies in an all out "retaliatory" assault, which among other things, liberates tens of millions of barrel of oil equivalents, even as it spreads democracy and unlimited credit cards.

Naturally, just as in the case of Nakoula Basseley Nakoula video, where the US government promptly washed its hands but not before condemning the response, so here too, the French administration has promptly bashed the cartoon. Of course, it is just this "freedom" that the satirical weekly Charlie Hebdo had, that the Muslim world supposedly "hates us for." Needless to say, the damage has already been done and the second major provocation against the Muslim world by the west, with a mass response that will be no surprise to anyone, has been launched. One of these days the desired reaction to the endless battery of provocations will finally take place.

From Reuters:

The French government, which had urged the magazine not to print the images, said it was temporarily shutting down premises including embassies and schools in 20 countries on Friday, when protests sometimes break out after Muslim prayers.

 

Riot police were deployed to protect the Paris offices of satirical weekly Charlie Hebdo after it hit the news stands with a cover showing an Orthodox Jew pushing the turbaned figure of Mohammad in a wheelchair.

 

On the inside pages, several caricatures of the Prophet showed him naked. One, entitled "Mohammad: a star is born", depicted a bearded figure crouching over to display his buttocks and genitals.

 

Initial reaction from Muslim countries was critical.

 

"Of course it will anger people further. It will raise tensions that were already dangerously high," said Sheikh Nabil Rahim, a leading Salafist cleric in Lebanon.

 

"We will try to keep things managed and peaceful, but these things easily get out of hand. I fear there could more targeting of foreigners, and this is why I wish they would not persist with these provocations."

 

In Egypt, Essam Erian, acting head of the powerful Muslim Brotherhood's Freedom and Justice Party, told Reuters: "We reject and condemn the French cartoons that dishonor the Prophet and we condemn any action that defames the sacred according to people's beliefs."

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Charlie Hebdo has a long reputation for being provocative. Its Paris offices were firebombed last November after it published a mocking caricature of Mohammad, and Charbonnier has been under police guard ever since.

 

Speaking outside his offices in an eastern neighborhood with many residents of North African origin, Charbonnier said he had not received any threats over the latest cartoons. In a message on its Twitter account, Charlie Hebdo said its website had been hacked, but referred readers to a blog it also uses.

 

The French Muslim Council, the main body representing Muslims in France, accused Charlie Hebdo of firing up anti-Muslim sentiment at a sensitive time.

 

"The CFCM is profoundly worried by this irresponsible act, which in such a fraught climate risks further exacerbating tensions and sparking damaging reactions," it said.

Well, as long as their hatred of our freedoms continues, all shall be well.

 


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Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:29 | Link to Comment PrintingPress
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I'd print it!

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:31 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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I'd just surrender!

 

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:36 | Link to Comment Urban Redneck
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The pre-emptive surrender is a new one, even for the French.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:44 | Link to Comment JPM Hater001
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I say we turn the middle east into glass...

 

Edit: Before I rival MDB is Reds by this I mean the only solution to crazy people is more crazy people doing crazy things.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:52 | Link to Comment Pladizow
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Who owns the magazine/newspaper - Cui Bono?

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:00 | Link to Comment Bullionaire
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Could someone please arrange a screening of "Life Of Brian" for these people?

 

Seriously.  Lighten the fuck up.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:04 | Link to Comment john39
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just because the western world has grown used to having its spiritual teachers trashed and belittled by zionist controlled media doesn't mean that the rest of the world is willing to roll over and drink zio-piss and laugh about it.  I don't condone violence, but, its fairly obvious that the bankers and doing everything that they can to start a war, including this shit... 

(edit) why not make a movie poking fun at the holocost and see what happens.

 

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:07 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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Riot police were deployed to protect the Paris offices of satirical weekly Charlie Hebdo ...

Why? If I choose to stand in a crowded bar and shout 'all B@#$%$s are twats' I would expect to get filled in by every twat in the place in short order. We have the right to free speech but they have tthe right to take offence. If Charlie Hebdo wants to piss people off because it has the right then let them, but let them take the consequences also, just like they would in a crowded bar.

There's some things you just don't do, even though you have the right to...

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:20 | Link to Comment strannick
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There's some things you just don't do, even though you have the right to...

Yes, once upon a time this was called ''civility''

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:25 | Link to Comment N. B. Forrest
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And is it civil to rape, torture and then kill ambassadors?

 

Do you seriously think these are moral equivalents?

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:27 | Link to Comment Surly Bear
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You know, underneath our clothes, we're all naked. True story.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:43 | Link to Comment Leopold B. Scotch
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I don't condone poking anyone in the eye re their beliefts, but the reaction to the poking tells you a great deal about the people being poked.

Were this reaction only because of the poking, I'd say knock it off.  But as it stands, these whackos have death sentences for any of their faith who decide to become Christian, etc.  You may convert to Islam, but never away.

I've long called Islam the Borg of religions.  Beware.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:52 | Link to Comment economics9698
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Give a link Tyler, I will print the mf'ers.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 12:06 | Link to Comment Manthong
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How gauche..

Next thing you know there will be some cartoonish criticism of The Holy Prophet Mohammed raping an innocent 9 year old girl.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 12:29 | Link to Comment zaphod
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I can't believe I'd ever have to say this but:

 

Good for the French for printing this.

 

Bad for ZeroHedge, you cropped out the image. Have the same balls as the french and show the full thing!

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 12:42 | Link to Comment kaiserhoff
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You and me, bro, but I gotta bite the bullet.   Vive la France.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 13:36 | Link to Comment Think for yourself
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a grand-grand-grand-[...]-parent post said,

"There's some things you just don't do, even though you have the right to..." 

Like questioning the Holocaust. Oh, right, that one is illegal, I wonder why?

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 12:42 | Link to Comment silverserfer
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it doesnt matter now. Zerohedge is fucked too. They printed his head. The Jihad is on bitchez

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 12:50 | Link to Comment Stackers
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Wondering why Tyler is furthering the myth that these riots were sparked by some silly YouTube clip, when they were actually sparked by the drone assassination the #2 Al-Qaeda leader in Pakistan on Sept 10th, the day before the riots started in Lybia.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 13:12 | Link to Comment JR
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Is it worth world war to flaunt the “right” to deeply offend others or speak evil of something others consider good?

“There is no greater glory for man than the service of international peace.

“Peace is light; war is darkness. Peace is life; war is death. Peace is guidance; war is misguidance. Peace is conducive to illumination; war is destructive of light. Peace and amity are factors of existence; war is decomposition, or lack of existence.

“Wherever the banner of peace is raised it is conducive to the welfare of the world.”

-- Peace Is Life, War Is Death, by ‘ABDU’L-BAHA of Persia, Prophet and Advocate of Peace

 

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:12 | Link to Comment Leopold B. Scotch
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Too bad for too many it's their version of peace, or you get the sword. 

 

Liberty, baby.

"Why should I care?  I'm not the one going to hell."

-Putty

Eqloquence! It's between you and your God. 

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:35 | Link to Comment john39
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maybe you haven't noticed... but most of the 'killing' done around world, is by US/NATO/Israel...  so, who are the savages again?

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 17:08 | Link to Comment Chuck Walla
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so, who are the savages again?

 

The guys sawing off the heads of innocent, alive people?

FORWARD SOVIET!

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 18:34 | Link to Comment JR
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Savages? Perhaps its Israeli ethnic Madeleine Albright, former U.S. Secretary of State, with her infamous statement that the “price” of 500,000 dead Iraqi children for U.S. sanctions on Iraq was worth it. And, of course, those Americans who supported her and the Iraqi Holocaust that killed an additional 1.44 million in U.S. "collateral damage." Wouldn't it be cheaper in lives for Americans just to buy their oil?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbIX1CP9qr4

 

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 00:01 | Link to Comment Squid-puppets a...
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Life is more complex than just saying 'peace is light, war is death'

There are many in this world for whom your committment to peaceful protest at all costs is just their opportunity to subjugate you. They dont have any interest in negotiating with you. they dont give a fuck about the injustice of your enslavement. They are comfortable that your enslavement is the price for their comfort and social status.

Under such circumstances, forceful resistance may at certain times in history be the only path to justice.

The tragedy for all parties concerned, however, is that the aggreived are particularly susceptible to having their anger misdrected by the most lunatic repulsive ridiculous religious belief and practice available in the theosophical marketplace.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 13:49 | Link to Comment LMAOLORI
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Indeed and the administration is already starting the back peddaling after being outed by the Britts and the Libyan's themselves. I thought this was Fight Club I think in the interest of Freedom ZeroHedge should post the full picture

White House opens door to other explanations behind Libya attack


U.S. official says Benghazi consulate was "terrorist attack"

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 13:31 | Link to Comment LMAOLORI
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I wonder if we are being censored here in the US I have the link but they won't let me connect it comes up telling me Connection impossible Can't connect when I try to click on the images either that or the site was hacked...

http://www.charliehebdo.fr/

The New York Daily News has a blurred copy

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/playing-fire-french-mag-publishes-controversial-prophet-muhammed-cartoons-previous-mockery-firebombed-article-1.1162737

Judging from the down arrows it appears some don't really value freedom after all. Freedom/rights are a slippery slope folks you can personally find something offensive fine don't look at it but to attempt to take away the freedom from another will eventually cost you YOUR freedom as well only a Communist would advocate that.

France Shuts Embassies, Schools After Weekly Fuels Mohammad Row with Nude Cartoons

 

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:38 | Link to Comment john39
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being played for a useful idiot by playing along with NWO provocations to WWIII doesn't seem very intelligent, nor a good way to defend free speech rights.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 15:24 | Link to Comment palmereldritch
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If they don't get the hard kill of bigoted riots then they will settle for the soft kill of hate speech legislation that will slowly smother freedom of expression and extinguish all religion.

It's all game theory and the only way to win is not to play the game.

Now, convincing all the players that they're merely pawns, that requires a real game-changer.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:27 | Link to Comment Surly Bear
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You know, underneath our clothes, we're all naked. True story.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:31 | Link to Comment john39
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how about drone murders of women and children, just because they happen to be in the area of someone that the U.S. government claims is a 'terrorist' (oh the irony).... mass bombing campaigns destroying infrastructure and overthrowing legitimate governments?  what are people in these countries supposed to do, write a nasty letter to the ambassador?  

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 15:10 | Link to Comment Bring the Gold
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Exactly. Try living with daily drone strikes, invasions, bombings, children dying from Leukemia caused by depleted uranium shells, wars, starvation, land annexed and all the other little joys that the "West" and Israel have visited upon them in the past 40+ years.

Then add in insult of their prophet. Also who says this isn't all a repeat of 1979 with western Intel agencies taking advantage of a chaotic situation for political objectives (October Surprise)? Its not like Western governments or Israel would use False Flags to meet political objectives at home and abroad right?

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:58 | Link to Comment JPM Hater001
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"And is it civil to rape, torture and then kill ambassadors?"

No.  Neither is blowing up children but I didnt see anyone sodomizing Cheney...except Rumsfeld of course.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 13:23 | Link to Comment joak
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This is the very same people who were helped by Western nations to kill Khadafi who murdered the 4 Americans in Benghazi. They want a big East/West clash, can't you see this ?

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 15:11 | Link to Comment Bring the Gold
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Right, a puppet goverment is in Libya. What does THAT tell you about who the "They" is who wants to kick off a West vs Muslim fight?

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 13:29 | Link to Comment Cathartes Aura
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.

And is it civil to rape, torture and then kill ambassadors?

what if said "ambassadors" are doing the work of anchoring invasive forces, spying, and various subversive behaviours that undermine the "sovereignty" of their "host"?

full story might help balance out the "moral equivalence". . .

(sheesh people, this is ZH? backstory & critical thinking!)

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 15:13 | Link to Comment Bring the Gold
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Ding ding ding. These weren't random westerners enjoying a holiday its an Embassy. Who works at Embassies? Spies. Duh. Why do you think Embassies are targetted so often? People in countries who are being ravaged by hostile forces know full well who works at Embassies.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 17:27 | Link to Comment Cathartes Aura
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and diplomatic immunity grants those embassy workers the freedom to carry out their assigned tasks.

until the people trump the "rules" of course.

guess they'll just have to build bigger embassies. . .

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 12:07 | Link to Comment EmileLargo
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You mean things like "piss on Christ"?

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 13:43 | Link to Comment FeralSerf
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Some Talmud quotes:

Sanhedrin 105ab: "Jesus fornicated with his jackass."

Gittin 57a: "Jesus is in hell and is being punished by being boiled in semen. Christians are boiled in dung."

 

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 15:20 | Link to Comment El Viejo
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Quote from "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy"

Earth is a place so mean that they once hung a man on a tree for merely suggesting that people be nice to one another.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 16:48 | Link to Comment erschiessen
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42 +'s

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 00:23 | Link to Comment matrix2012
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Nope EmileLargo, that one isn't really effective in the West, in places whereas the Zio-controlled press is in power!

One must try something more creative to hit their nerves, similar lines as below should do.

 

"DID THE 'HOLLOWCAUSE' REALLY HAPPEN AS PICTURED OR WAS IT JUST A FABRICATED STORY?"

 

I bet my real money that it'll deliver the results :D LoL 

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:24 | Link to Comment Oh regional Indian
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Your analogous situation is funny and spot on.

And this ridiculous level of propaganda just shows what a weak tribe humanity has become. Totally enthralled by tits and ass and the glorification of non-human traits on the OpiaTVe screen.

Just in time, UFC (Ultimate Fighting for the Un-initiated) launched it's operations in India. Hooray. Cage fight mentality. They are on the hunt for Indian Cage Stars. Nice...

Tch...

ori

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:28 | Link to Comment slackrabbit
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The legal arguement to that was that it only allowed the rich and powerful to speak the truth as the rest of us couldn't afford security guards ad infinitum;

The other legal argument was - you had the right to ignore them....that is also civility...

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:28 | Link to Comment Parabox
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What about things you just don't do even when you don't have the right to.  I'd say murdering someone or blowing up a building over hurt feelings falls within that category.  

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:16 | Link to Comment Dalago
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With Freedom comes great power and from power comes great responsibility.  Say ni99er in a room full of black people and watch them get upset.  THEN say ahh look... they're soooo sensitive of my freedom of speech.  Its a moral responsibility for the Freedom to keep your mouth closed.

 

If you get too close to a rabid dog I hope you get bit.  Leave them the fuck alone.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:20 | Link to Comment john39
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one other example that demonstrates how screwed up this world is... its "free speech" to publish garbage trashing a revered religious leader....   but its a crime to question the historical accuracy of any part of the holocost... just ask Ernst Zundel who rots in jail for making true statements about the holocost...    or even more irony....   a magazine gets shut down for publishing a few crappy picks of a flat chested "royal", which is also apparently a crime.   just illustrates very clearly who runs the show.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:40 | Link to Comment Leopold B. Scotch
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Thou shall not question anything about THE ONE AND ONLY Holocaust.

Seriously, though... I think it happened, but all this persecution of those who question it -- people in the U.S. deported without trial, etc., has done more to make me a skeptic than anything else.  That behavior by those who silence historical questioning rather than bury it with evidence is abhorrent.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:49 | Link to Comment john39
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the fact that they have to pass laws making it illegal even to question is a huge tell.  truth doesn't need such protection...    something happened, yes, but you are not allowed to explore the truth of it...   if you really want to know, check out Michael Hoffman.  They guy is a genius and is fearless:

www.revisionisthistory.org

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:46 | Link to Comment Fukushima Sam
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On the other hand, if you are forced to live in the same apartment building as the rabid dog you may just want to put it down so you don't have to risk the bite...

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 12:01 | Link to Comment forwardho
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With sticks and stones i'll break their bones when words they speak offend me.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 12:18 | Link to Comment Ironmaan
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You don't leave a rabid dog alone; you shoot it.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 12:50 | Link to Comment Oldballplayer
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But if there is a rabid dog in you neighborhood, you shoot it.  Just sayin

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 15:54 | Link to Comment FrankDrakman
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If you get too close to a rabid dog I hope you get bit. Leave them the fuck alone.

Or, you can do an Atticus Finch, and shoot the damn thing before it hurts anyone else. From a safe distance, of course.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:35 | Link to Comment itamar3
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Ignorant fuck

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 12:59 | Link to Comment PiratePawpaw
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Look out! its the People's Judean Front!!!!

Or was that the Peoples Front of Judea, or The Judean People's Front?

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:16 | Link to Comment Leopold B. Scotch
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Fuck off! We're the People's Front of Judea.

What have the Romans ever done for us?

All right, but apart from the sanitation, medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh water system and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 13:28 | Link to Comment joak
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Dieudonné, a French artist, did it... The Jew organizations sued him (they lost).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dsg3rtxt8Qc

By the way, Charlie Hebdo, who is claiming to fight for freedom of speech, always talk about him in very bad terms (antisemitism of course).

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 15:45 | Link to Comment matrix2012
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"(edit) why not make a movie poking fun at the holocost and see what happens."

 

@ john39, what a good proposition! Be careful! You just hit the nerves of the nexus!!!

but i'm afraid nobody in the West will dare him/herself to do that, he/she will definitely be sentenced to long jail term!!! The stern Anti-Semetik Law will deter any sober mind to ever touch such highly sensitive matters  :D

Last time to my remembrance, a famous designer in France made a regretful reference about the sensitive issue, it costed him the job and was thrown into the jail! Now he should have regretted why he ever crossed the red line!

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 15:33 | Link to Comment Darth Mul
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People who deny that there is lots of exhortations to violence in the Koran out of reverence for political correctness rather from the truth should be strung up next to those who would have you believe the Talmud doesn't do the same thing, more extensively, more explicitly, and more stringently along racialist/tribalistic lines.


 

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/023-violence.htm

  

 http://holywar.org/jewishtr/02hos.htm


 

 


 

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 20:49 | Link to Comment LMAOLORI
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Blah blah blah commie

heres the picture

Pic Of The Day: French Magazine’s Naked Mohammed Cartoons…

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 00:22 | Link to Comment monad
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They need to be introduced to LSD and The Beatles. 

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:14 | Link to Comment greyghost
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wikipedia says that the magazine strongly leftwing with an anarchist slant. well it appears they will get the latter in spades!!!1

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:21 | Link to Comment Ignatius
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Not too anarchist... with the police moving in to protect their asses.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:50 | Link to Comment jimmytorpedo
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Anarchism is the belief in PRIVATE PROPERTY and the non-inititiaon of force.

Left wing anarchism is an oxymoron.

Jumbo shrimp anyone?

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 12:55 | Link to Comment AnAnonymous
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Anarchism is the belief in PRIVATE PROPERTY and the non-inititiaon of force.

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Absolutely. And Americanism stands for liberty, truth and justice.

Signed: an American.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 13:03 | Link to Comment PiratePawpaw
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Good to see that Chairman Mao got your road Re-dirted.

Anarchism is the fear of spiders.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 15:04 | Link to Comment akak
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I am still looking for the Greek-derived word which means "fear of dogmeat-generated roadside shit".

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:05 | Link to Comment Chief KnocAHoma
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I hate advocate for nukes, but it may be the only way quell this shit.

How long are we going to allow these savages to dictate our rights of free speach.

Tell ya what... when you get out of the stone ages and learn to use indoor plumbing, we'll talk. Until then....FUCK YOU!

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:12 | Link to Comment john39
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free speach? where exactly do you live, antarctica?

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:22 | Link to Comment Flakmeister
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It is a Supersymmetric peach.....

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:32 | Link to Comment Flakmeister
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Clearly that was too far of an inside joke for the Hedge....

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 13:47 | Link to Comment TheFuture_MrGittes
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Only for the Supersymmetric Tupids.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:01 | Link to Comment Flakmeister
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It clearly went way the fuck over your head....

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:20 | Link to Comment TheFuture_MrGittes
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Clearly. I didn't junk you btw, for this or the elaborate grammar correction.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:34 | Link to Comment slackrabbit
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He there are allot of very throughtful people down here - we also love getting pissed

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:28 | Link to Comment Kick_the_Kan
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so many moronic and juvenile comments on here....takes away from the quality of this website

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 12:00 | Link to Comment JPM Hater001
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Here's the intelligent comment then.

If the muslims ignored these dumbasses no one else would care either.  Now we all know all about it.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 13:38 | Link to Comment Cathartes Aura
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if one keeps poking the bear with a stick,

after keeping it chained & hungry,

and then starts to kick that bear

over time, the bear will react.

 

BACKSTORY - over time!!    not just today's little news. . .

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 13:59 | Link to Comment LULZBank
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Really good article.

In comparison, there is no present day private company that has a whole country as its asset, let alone, the asset being the greatest superpower in the world.  The East India Company had a 250,000 strong private army in India. In 1835, East India Company issued its own Indian currency – effectively becoming the dejure state of the land. Around 200,000 strong of the East India Company private army were sepoys, local Hindu and Muslim soldiers. The rest of the 50,000 officers and soldiers were British.

In 1853, new “Enfield” rifles were introduced. To load the rifle, sepoys had to bite the cartridge open to release the powder. The cartridges were pre-greased with tallow. This was supposedly either derived from beef or lard (pork): offensive to the Hindus and Muslims respectively. Thus rumours started circulating that the British sought to destroy the religions of the Indian people. The narrative went as follows: as a way to ensure the destruction of religion, the East India Company is forcing the native soldiers to become unholy by biting the bullet. The hired guns of a mercenary army chartered by a private company were fine with murder of their brethren on the behest of faceless stock owners but not so comfortable with biting the bullet first.

This was an instance of the political entrepreneurs whipping up religious frenzy to gain specific objectives. A revolt spread throughout the expanse of India to reinstate the Indian aristocracy to power. From Bengal in the east to Punjab in the west, Hindus, Sikhs and Muslims started militant rebellion. Though the rebellion lasted for a good many years, it did not yield intended consequences. The rebellion leaders were all captured and killed, and the British Crown dismantled East India Company and began the 100 year direct government rule of India. Everyone who supported the rebellion and their communities were completely disenfranchised, starved of all opportunities and lived in insolated poverty for the next 50 years.

http://dawn.com/2012/09/19/a-billion-marionettes/

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:15 | Link to Comment Cathartes Aura
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and a "really good" title as well. . .

the story part of his-story is really worth looking into, carefully.

 

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 13:59 | Link to Comment LULZBank
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dp

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 13:14 | Link to Comment ramirez
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+1

Those who downvoted you look to be friends of islamo-fanatic oppressing regimes that are coming after the Arabian spring. Some of us were just too naive to believe that arab world wanted democracy. Actually NO! They want the rule of shariah. The paedophillic Mohammed is their democracy. They are too blind to see that the world is living in the 21st century since about 12 years. They are still living in 6th century with their Mohammed.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 12:00 | Link to Comment MillionDollarBogus_
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Are you trying to out-troll a troll here...??

A silly remark to bring out the red vote is nothing to be proud of....

 

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 12:02 | Link to Comment JPM Hater001
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;)

Getting a troll to comment on a trolling is quality...and something to be proud of.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 12:07 | Link to Comment YuropeanImbecille
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I agree! I do not need any "spin" to want to nuke the middle east. I would be happy if they did it just like that.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:46 | Link to Comment EnglishMajor
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It's just not fun to sit down and watch a movie while you read the comic strips if there's no dinner to accompany it.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:06 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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Problem, reaction, solution. Works every time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialectic#Hegelian_dialectic

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:14 | Link to Comment malikai
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A most amazing and sickening phenomena to observe..

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:22 | Link to Comment Comay Mierda
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Problem, reaction, solution. Works every time.

Exactly. The assault on religions will accomplish two goals: Eroding freedom of speech, and inciting the third world war

Its not just Islam that is being perverted with these idiot cartoons and low budget movies, but Christianity is also being assualted with hogwash stories about Jesus having a wife referencing some UN created fake artifact

The truth is that this all paving the way to the Albert Pike/Freemason/UN wet dream of a nuclear third world war that can be blamed on the religions.  After WWIII, religions will be banned and a global soviet-style UN govt will be formed along with a demonic one world religion

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:42 | Link to Comment nope-1004
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+1 CB.

 

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 12:00 | Link to Comment Cast Iron Skillet
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ok, sooo .. somebody's got to start making fun of demons.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 13:04 | Link to Comment I did it by Occident
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Krugman must be smiling now.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 13:13 | Link to Comment palmereldritch
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Thus the emphasis on Islamic immigration and non-integration into Europe over the last several decades.

This egregious provocation is a very intentional sparking of the cultural kindling set throughout the Western continent to begin that fire of the Clash of Civilizations.... one of many to follow that will no doubt be fanned by agent provocateurs and fueled by possible false flags until they achieve the raging inferno of destruction central to their psychotic, nightmare plans for police-state control.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 13:43 | Link to Comment Cathartes Aura
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plus many for using the WIDE ANGLE LENS before posting!

far too many lunk-head flag-wavers here of late, and a paucity of actual thought before engaging keyboard.

it appears we are lining up the teams, war it is I guess. . .

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:56 | Link to Comment palmereldritch
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Hate is the ultimate control mechanism followed by fear. 

So many sheep appear to think they are wolves.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:19 | Link to Comment joe90
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Need proof? see the somments here: http://weaselzippers.us/2012/09/19/pic-of-the-day-french-magazines-naked... the common reaction I hear from workmates to news of the "protests" is "that's why we have to fight those **** otherwise they will be over here imposing their ways on us"

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:38 | Link to Comment SMG
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Someone?  Heck we know who's doing this.  The Elite, the Oligarchs, those who believe they are gods, our masters.  Japan/China, Muslim/west, Israel/Iran etc., currency and trade wars, finanacial ruin for all countries, moral collapse.   It's all going to plan.  From chaos, order.  Their order.   Prepare to be truly ruled and enslaved peasants, unless you all wake up and stand up to all of this.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:46 | Link to Comment collon88
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SMG +1000

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:51 | Link to Comment mirac
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W need a voice, a big voice, to somehow introduce this idea this to the Muslim World...

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:28 | Link to Comment prains
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spot on SMG this is the cartoon version of 9/11 to create a violent reaction and help rally the sheep around the flag draped (soon to be) wounded west. so fucking transparent it hurts all the lobes to watch this arcane shiite

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:41 | Link to Comment itamar3
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Oh yeah, the world's elite had a meeting yesterday and decided by creating religious tention (that did not exsist before last night) so they will create their new order and finally can control paranoid people like you.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:42 | Link to Comment prains
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ishitinmymar3 

 

please return to your vegetative state, the humming your hear is just your brain failing to reboot

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 15:27 | Link to Comment Bring the Gold
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Learn a bit about history. Do a bit of digging. See how things work BEHIND the scenes. When you do you will find many disparate and confusing phenomena suddenly merge to help form a cohesive big picture. This isn't to say everything can be explained by this, but quite a few major events of the past 12 years especially come nicely into focus when you see how things really work. There is no monolithic conspiracy, but there are many elites striving to gain greater control. I actually see a lot less cohesion than say 4 years ago. As the ship has begun sinking elite rats have started to turn on eachother. That said some things are pretty obviously a set up. This recent Arab Fall is one of them. See who benefits. Hint, its not the Muslims.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 12:30 | Link to Comment The Continental
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Damn striaght. Elites are using the tried-and-true divide and conquer strategy, but in a many-layered slice and dice blitzkrieg. Just look at Webster Tarpley's recent analysis on who and why is behind the recent arab embassy uprisings. Obama is no longer the "magic negro" to the elites. They want Neo NeoCon Corporate Raider Romney and the Munsters kid to do their dirty work going forward. They obviously want war in a big way - gotta depopulate and coverup all the bankers $trillions stolen.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 15:45 | Link to Comment Darth Mul
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Why do you think there's only 1 group of elites?

 

You have the Arch Zionist neocons behind Romney, and the Moderate Zionists behind Obama.   The Moderate Zionists, Christian and Jewish both, are not going to put America or her security needs first, of course.

 

Basically, everywhere you look, there are rich and wealthy Jews and apparently, one can't point out the obvious, as if one has to "hate" a whole group of people as a group because one has sufficient intellect and honesty to look at Russia's oligarchs, or the people running the Fed or FDIC/CBO, or the Office of Special Plans - or read the histroy of the court jews, or the userers who came with William the Conquerer - to realize that the Jewish people's ethics, and its in the Talmud, is about putting the tribe first.

 

Jews in this country have hijacked media and banking and those of us who want to stop it but don't want to espouse general racism either may have to walk a line that's impossible to walk.

 

It could well be that Henry Ford wasn't simply lying or being paranoid when he spoke against "International Jewry" - there seem to be millions of Jewish organizations, and have had a focus and capital in Israel for decades.

We have Adelson versus Soros - both Jewish, and most movie studios run by Jews, and the legal profession and ivy league schools and presidencies with 30x the percentage ...

 

Right now America is fucked because powerful Jews, and powerless, stupid fuck southern Protestants who are used by them, have hijacked it.

No one wants to think of themselves as a scumbag racist - but at some point The Talmud's racialist ethics and world zionism and the ridiculous out of proportion power of Jews generally, but especially the chickenhawk neocons, has to be in the conversation to know what's going on.

 

International central banking is using war to create debt and establish "Greater Israel" as the future quasi-capital of a world/bank authority.  Admit that this might be true - and you will begin to awake.

www.america-hijacked.com

 

 

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 12:38 | Link to Comment matrix2012
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Seems like the PUPPET MASTERS are ready to pull the string!!! Perhaps it's accelerated due to the worsening of piling of debt. Or, perhaps it's caused by the biological time constraint of their masterminds (pls refer to Amanita). 

-Andrew Hitchcock's masterpiece of the World 2.5-Century Timeline, "The History of the House..." - http://bit.ly/MhkwoV or its terser .ppt version: http://bit.ly/NlwRto

-Amanita's "Bilderberg Conference 2010: watch out!" - http://bit.ly/KHpJGw

-A Super Chart that will give you some good ideas on how the world is managed, how far the their power reaches to individuals, institutions, corporations, mass media, broadcasts - http://bit.ly/L1pTZZ

Or a 'more scientific' though much shallower chart, "Who Runs the World" - http://bit.ly/pQFo2F

 

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"If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." -- George Orwell, English Novelist and Essayist, 1903-1950

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:39 | Link to Comment redpill
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The historical Mohammed, the historical Jesus, or the historical Buddha, whether you believe them to be prophets or what not, would likely have laughed at the absurdity of it all, and been stricken in horror to know how many millions have died in the name of their religions over the last two millenia.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:45 | Link to Comment catacl1sm
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Buddhists, who practice ahisme haven't killed anyone in the name of Buddha. Your posts are usually spot on. Get with it today, Redpill.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:04 | Link to Comment Bullionaire
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Kinda true, but only if you except those self-immolating monks and nuns who have killed themselves in the name of ahimsa.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:07 | Link to Comment redpill
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Or maybe, it is your reading comprehension that is off today, catacl1sm.  Read it again, no where did I say people were killing in the name of Buddha.  What I said is that millions have died in the name of their religion, and by any account many Buddhists have died for their faith; Siddh?rtha Gautama could not have imagined the brutal Chinese oppression in Tibet, and would undoubtedly been horrified by what has been done to his pacifist followers over the years.

 

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:36 | Link to Comment Vlad Tepid
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Anyone who thinks no one has ever killed in the name of Buddha is unfamiliar with Japanese history. They were called "warrior monks" for a reason.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 12:28 | Link to Comment redpill
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Point being, it makes one wonder what these prophets would have said had they been given the foreknowledge of how many would be murdered as a result of their teaching, either because of it or using it as a justification.  Would they have continued to teach?  Become hermits?  Hung themselves out of despair?  Truth may be truth, but blood is reality.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 12:51 | Link to Comment matrix2012
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The Japanese can hardly be the true followers of Buddhism or anything. They just adopt various rituals at their conveniences. The so-called religions for Japanese are:

 

Shinto --> religion (ritual) of birth

Christian --> religion (ritual) of marriage ceremonies

Buddhism -->  religion (ritual) of death

 

 

Perhaps they have more faith in Amaterasu than anything else.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 12:53 | Link to Comment redpill
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"Perhaps they have more faith in JGB than anything else."

 

Fixed.

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Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:47 | Link to Comment JohnKozac
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Tibet was a Theocracy in the past. When the British arrived they were shocked at the conditions  but did nothing to help the people:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWTD2MjCg0g

 

Religion is a two-edged sword.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 13:22 | Link to Comment matrix2012
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i'd posted few links about tibet in zh at here.

dalai lhama is partially guilty for his does not denounce the suicide actions of some hardcore fanatics who set themselves ablaze.

neither nowadays nor in the past, their so-called religious leaders just care less the interests of the ordinary folks.

 

"Westerners appear to have a willful blindness about Tibet - The Shangri-La syndrome. Everyone wants to believe in some mythological, romantic fantasy about Tibet. It doesn't exist and it never did, but the myth seems to grow daily. The Western media impose on our imagination an image of some fabled theocracy where a reincarnated god rules over a peaceful people spinning prayer wheels.

The facts are different. The region has been under China's governance for many centuries, but was largely self-managed up to the 1950s when Mao went in to clean it up. Before that, Tibet was a slave colony, what the Western press euphemistically refers to as a 'feudal system'. It was no such thing. Virtually all the population was owned by the Dalai and other lamas and worked their entire lives without pay. The highest monks often owned 35,000 to 40,000 slaves. The prettiest girls (and boys) were confiscated to the monasteries for sex. Life was brutal and harsh, corrupt and punctuated by civil wars - the last in 1950. Life expectancy was barely 30.

Education was only for the monks because educated peasants are dangerous and expensive. Industry was forbidden because wealth of the population brought independence from religion. Torture was rampant. For anyone who cares to look, the internet is full of photos of the torture rooms at the Potala Palace and all the instruments used for gouging eyes and cutting leg tendons. You can easily find it. It's all there. The Dalai Lama was responsible for managing all of this. For the world to have given him a Nobel Peace Prize was an obscenity."

 

yet, why anyone wonders if he/she does realize that dalai lhama has been involved with cia ops since his youth... http://www.ciaintibet.com/

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:03 | Link to Comment LULZBank
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CIA prolly keeps him as an adviser to rollout the Tibetan model over the whole world.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:46 | Link to Comment hedgeless_horseman
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Considering that Jews, Christians, and Muslims all pray to the same God, the God of Abraham, you may be correct.  Hopefully, I will get a chance to ask God myself someday.

This is an excellent book...

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 10:58 | Link to Comment Ratscam
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religion was made by men to rule over men

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:15 | Link to Comment hedgeless_horseman
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That has not been my experience with religion.  I am sorry it has been yours. 

However, I think we can agree that Keynesian economics was made by men to rule over men.

 

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 12:04 | Link to Comment JPM Hater001
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Religions are varied but summed as such:

We are all looking at the same sun, just through different windows.

Some, however, are broken.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 15:53 | Link to Comment Ratscam
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next time when you see god, please tell him to switch to the austrian school experiment for a change and end the wars and end ... never mind

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 16:04 | Link to Comment LarryDavis
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Fuck your experience. Some people go apple picking and get head in the orchard but that doesn't make apple picking a prelude to an orgy. Your outlook and religion is fucking childish and you should really question believing in something two millenia old so old in fact that there is really no extant proof. Thor was a great god, but where is he now? The point is religion is a hustle and an old one at that. It gets armies moving, priests molesting, taxes evaded, virgins fucking, and of course keeps otherwise intelligent people subjugated.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:26 | Link to Comment The-Dirty-Scurd
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religion/traditions of men, yes. following God, the one true and only God, is not a religion but a reality of life and our existence/purpose. catholics are no more christian than mormon, or buddist, or islamist. there is little truth left in teh church because of the infiltrators as stated in jude. for certain men crept/creep in unawares to the sleeping masses and take over economics, politics, govts, religions and so on. this life is a lesson of the difference between good and evil, life following what is right and life when you dont following 100% righteousness. above all life with God and life without God. but yeah religions is def used to control men/women because of the manipulations, lies, twistings, fallen angel religions and such. dont forget things like chems in our food, air and water to dumb us down as well.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:31 | Link to Comment knightowl77
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I believe in God, his son Jesus, but I do not believe in religion, and do not follow one

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 15:58 | Link to Comment Ratscam
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A belief is a state of not knowing. Only if you don't know you have to believe.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 16:05 | Link to Comment LarryDavis
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You are an idiot. Jesus was jew from 2000 years ago and that's what you want to believe in? How fucked is that?

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:04 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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Thank you for the recommendation. I will be picking it up today.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:08 | Link to Comment john39
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many christians refuse to believe that "Allah" is the same God as Abraham's God... so effective the propaganda is...  but consider this...  compare the God that Jesus taught about to the 'god' of the old testament who is sometimes violent, warlike and demands human sacrafice...  are we really dealing with one entity, or two, with one posing as the other at various points...   this was a core teaching of gnosticism that has largely been hidden in modern times...  wonder why...

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:19 | Link to Comment hedgeless_horseman
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many christians refuse to believe that "Allah" is the same God as Abraham's God

All they need to do is read Genesis 16, and understand that Ishmael is the forefather of Muhammad and Islam.  Unfortunately, many Christians do not read the Bible these days.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 12:42 | Link to Comment ZeroAvatar
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All you have to do, hh, read Genesis 3, verse 22: And behold, the man is become as one of us.......AS ONE OF 'US'!

 

Who was the 'one and only god of Abraham' speaking to?  Was he schizophrenic?  Seems there were more than '1' God.

 

Sorry to bust your bubble.  You must first lose your religion (and it hurts, I know from personal experience) before you can awaken.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 12:47 | Link to Comment hedgeless_horseman
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So you have not heard of the Royal We?  Pluralis maiestatis?  Majestic plural?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majestic_plural

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:44 | Link to Comment The-Dirty-Scurd
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because allah is not. islam is an extension of catholism. just because a religion says it christian doesnt mean it actually is. most, close to all are a fake or twisted version. the seemingly "older" religions of the ancient greeks, or chinese or even mayans(ect.) are that of the fallen angel worship. the ones who left thier estate and came to infiltrate.

Yes, God has emotions and clearly says as much. he gets mad, even hates(esau or sin for example) but also loves and so on. God may be violent but its a righteous violence, i know what youre thinking. "how is that different than what islamists think? arent they killing to be righteous?" i can understand questions like this and where they come from. that is the subtlety and psychology of this all. everything seems close or a spin off of something, because it is but the 100% truth gets blurrred in the trappings of the world. those who infiltrate parrallel the truth and put a twist on it. i digress, it is different because of something we true christians have that a religion of lies and hate do not have and that is the forgiveness in Jesus. also nothign is hidden in the bible. Hosea 6;6, God doesnt want our burnt offerings what he truly wants is our love. the sacrifices were something important for testing to see if we would listen to him, follow instruction, even when it is tough. also in that time sacrifices were what people understood because of the fallen angel religions. for us to understand, the sacrifices were not for him but for us to be able to have a "visual".

as far as him being multiple entities, that was for us as well and our understanding. see how in samuel that the people wanted a man king like the rest of the people of the world. Father gives us everythign we wanted, we jsut dont realize it. at the time Father wanted to be our king as it was, him still in Heaven. people did not want that so he appointed a man king. then Jesus would come to be the man king of perfection, hence king of kings. the world rejected him.  he became the sacrifice to replace all other sacrifices of blood, he became the sabbath and so on. he is our rest among other things. its not hidden in the bible at all. all these things arent hidden. its peoples lazyness or wanting to lsiten to liars or soothsayers that keeps anything hidden. as for the Holy Spirit being a seperate entity it is not, it is the thing that ties the world of flesh to Heaven. it is just presented in a way that is easier for us to understand when we look at it objectively. Jesus even says if youve seen my face youve seen Father's face, we are one and so on. Jesus was the flesh king we always wanted, the Holy Spirit is the tie from flesh to the world in front of our eyes we cannot see or understand(specturms of light, waves,frequencies, we even only use 10-12% of our brain, that was for our benifit as well but a hwole other subject). none of this is hidden. 

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:53 | Link to Comment The-Dirty-Scurd
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also hes never asked any of us to do anything for him that he has not done for us. he has sacrificed, protected, let us hurt ourlseves and others(freewill) on and on. imagine a parent, a good one, how they feel about thier kids or what they would do for the kids and what they expect from thier kids. its not exactly how God thinks im sure but it gives you an idea. he had ot let us make our mistakes, explore beyond him and so on. he tries to guide us and puts up with a lot. he expects a lot because he gives a lot as well. he made forgiveness as simple as he could bare, just ask upon true repentance(change yoru mind) and believe. i could go on for days and days. he doesnt say if they dont believe in me kill them. he says pray for them and things like he didnt come for those that were saved but for those who were not. on and on

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 12:48 | Link to Comment ZeroAvatar
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I can't even muster the strength to argue against the dogma anymore. The 'great bearded guy in the sky' lives on in the superstitious mind of man.

 

Always has, always will. And that's what people are dying for.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 12:03 | Link to Comment john39
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The torah was lifted from earlier summarian stories... and who knows before that.  Those same fallen angels and their masters were around then.  Jesus warned about the 'war god' of the old testament...  for a reason.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 12:23 | Link to Comment redpill
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Is this a good time to bring up Asherah?

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:15 | Link to Comment Occam's Moistur...
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Incorrect-- the Christian God had a Son in time/space/history named Jesus whereas allah and yhwh did not. 

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:24 | Link to Comment hedgeless_horseman
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These three religions do disagree on the nature of Jesus Christ, but they all agree that they pray to the God of Abraham.

 

In Matthew 6:9-13 Jesus says,

“This, then, is how you should pray:

Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name,
your kingdom come,
your will be done,
on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us today our daily bread.
And forgive us our debts,
as we also have forgiven our debtors.
And lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from the evil one."

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:33 | Link to Comment AGuy
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"Hopefully, I will get a chance to ask God"

God didn't create man, Man Created God. Consider that for many millenia, humans worshipped many thousands of different dieties. Many of the old beliefs lasted longer than the current major religions. Why didn't God before Jesus and Abraham set the record straight? How come God of Abraham today doesn't set the record straight in modern times, and tell the Hindus, the Buddists, that they are worshiping false deities. Why didn't God intervene during the Great Wars and the Great Plagues. For instance why was Buddist China spared the black deaths that culled a third or more of God of Abrahams followers? So you spared the Buddists infidels and slaughtered your own followers? Why is that the many of the stories about the prophets originated from the older religions. For example, Moses and Jesus have nearly identical stories as earlier summarian, Eygptian, and Greece dieties and prophets. "Horus and Jesus", "Moses and Sargon", etc.

 The only reason why the current major religions exists is because they favored out over older or less enthusiastic religions. Religions are very much like social and politcal beliefs. Consider how many people died for thier faith in Communism? 100 Million? 250 Million? For much of the 20th Century, Communism was the fastest spreading beliefs as it swooped up in Eastern Europe, and most of Asia, Much of South America and parts of Africa. Now Socialism, the precursor to Communism is spreading to North America. People have faith in gov't entitlments and central planning, more than any other major religion.

I will make my own prophet prediction. This comment will receive more than a dozen dings! Go head and ding, its easier than thinking and it validate my point.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:44 | Link to Comment hedgeless_horseman
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You seem to have a lot of questions along the lines of, "Why did, or didn't, God do such and such?"  That is good.  I had the same questions, and still do today.  However, through reading scripture, prayer, and personal experiences I have had all those questions answered. 

How seriously have you looked for the answers?

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 13:05 | Link to Comment ZeroAvatar
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Yeah, people are always quoting the fucking Koran, in an attempt to get us to read it, too.

 

FUCK RELIGION

FUCK ISLAM

FUCK MOHAMMED

FUCK JESUS

 

 

(Edit:  Be sure to answer a question WITH a question, typical dogmatic 'hypno-control' method)

 

I looked for the answers. I FOUND them.  In places like Ezekiel where he describes the inside of a spaceship.  Or Genesis, where taking a rib (to perform genetic fusion of the 22a gene strand) is spoken of.  Or in Enoch (oh, sorry, that had too much 'REAL' information in it, and was therefore banned from the bible, in case people became aware of the fraud) where he, too describes The Watchers (mankind's TRUE Gods, the alien race that created us).

How much have YOU read the bible?  Open your eyes, the scales fall off, and you'll see it FOR WHAT IT REALLY IS!

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:21 | Link to Comment matrix2012
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Thanks ZeroAvatar for the brief ref about the Book of ENOCH :-)

 

Just reading some at:

http://www.themystica.com/mystica/articles/e/enoch_book_of_history.html

http://visionsanddreams.wordpress.com/2011/07/14/thoughts-on-the-book-of-enoch/

 

BANNED FROM THE BIBLE

* The Book of Jubilees: This obscure Hebrew text offers an answer to a question that has vexed Christians for centuries -- if Adam and Eve only had sons, and if no other humans existed, who gave birth to humanity? This text reveals that Adam and Eve had nine children and that Cain's younger sister Awan became his wife. The idea that humanity was born of incest would have been radical -- and heretical.

* The Book of Enoch: This scripture reads like a modern day action film, telling of fallen angels, bloodthirsty giants, an earth that had become home to an increasingly flawed humanity and a divine judgment to be rendered though denied a place in most Western Bibles; it has been used for centuries by Ethiopian Christians. Large portions of this book were found as part of the Dead Sea Scrolls.

from http://www2.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/12-19-2003/0002079002

 

Some of the banned books are:

The Book of Enoch, The Book of Jubilees, The Protovangelion of James, The Gospel of Nicodemus, The Infancy Gospel of Thomas, The Gospel of Mary, The Apocalypse of Peter, and The Life of Adam and Eve, etc.

The Bible was compiled by Constantine the Great in the 4th century.

 

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 16:12 | Link to Comment LarryDavis
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Kill 'em all. 

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 13:39 | Link to Comment Idisq
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Congratulations on brain washing yourself!

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 16:12 | Link to Comment Ratscam
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sorry to doubling my earlier post

Belief is a state of not knowing. You only believe in what you don't know.
Think about it on things in your daily life. Armani is better than Hugo Boss, Porsche is better than Ferrari, Christianity is better than Islam and on and on.
For logic sake, please first acquire the knowledge in order to come up with a knowledge-based opinion and not a MSM brain washed belief argument.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 11:12 | Link to Comment Popo
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Completely *not* true of Mohammed.  He was the only one of the above prophets who led troops into battle and taught his troops to kill those who didn't "believe".   Islam was "spread by the sword" from day one.   A little history:   Mecca, holiest of Islamic cities was the site of one of their greatest *military* conquests / slaughters.   Mohammed signed a *peace treaty* (called a hudna) with the city-state of Mecca which belonged to the Qu'raysh tribe who worshipped the moon.  When the Qu'raysh let down their guard (thinking they had just signed a peace treaty),  Mohammed rolled into town and killed all the men.   The women were spoils of war.

That's Islam.

And that's also why whenever a peace treaty gets signed in the Islamic world, it is reported as a "hudna":  A Koranic reference which means, "this ain't no peace treaty, whitey" to everyone except gullible Western leaders.

And the cube that they all walk circles around?   Yeah... that was the moon temple of the Qu'raysh tribe.  They converted it like they always do, to a mosque.  (Ever wonder why there are no other cubes in Islam?  Because they didn't make it.)

Every year for centuries before the conquest of Mecca, right around what's now Ramadan -- the Qu'raysh made a pilgrimage to Mecca.   Mohammed kept the tradition, but just made sure everyone worshipped him instead.   Conquer.  Assimilate.  Lather.  Rinse.  Repeat.

 

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