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Friday Humor: Allowing Women To Drive Leads To Rampant "Prostitution, Pornography, Homosexuality And Divorce"
And now for the Friday humor which instead of capital markets... we get enough fun there every time we look at the S&P or read any headline out of Europe... focuses on cultural perspectives. Specifically, those originating in Saudi Arabia. As QMI reports "allowing women to drive in Saudi Arabia would cause rampant sex, porn and homosexuality, according to some of the country's scholars." It gets better: "Academics at the country's highest religious council submitted a report to the legislative assembly warning of the dangers of letting women behind the wheel, reports the Daily Telegraph. If the only country in the world that still bans women from driving were to change its rules, there would be "a surge in prostitution, pornography, homosexuality and divorce." Within 10 years of the ban being lifted, the report claimed, there would be "no more virgins" in the country, according to the paper." One then wonders if Britney learned to drive when she was 17. That said, we urge feminists with a penchant for sports cars to stay out of Saudi Arabia, no matter how much they love extracting the viscous substance out of the oil-rich venues: "Currently, women caught driving in the kingdom may be lashed as punishment."
And speaking of Britney, happy 30th to the girl who made being a catholic schoolgirl fun all over again.
h/t Mike
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Very true. But that changes none of my points.
It should. Men vote for Obama because they think he is slick, a great orator. They vote for him because they long to be him. This is the same side of emotional intel that your uninformed woman use when they vote for him because of looks.
There is no diffference between an uninformed woman and an uninformed man.
There is a HUGE difference between the percentage of men that vote on logic versus the percentage of women who vote on the same criteria.
Didn't you know that the majority of Obummers supporters were women?
It's not a matter of being informed, it's a matter of the reasoning behind the decision.
Again, how many women do you know are big Ron Paul supporters? Yeah, I know very few too. Guess he isn't charming enough for them.
I support no one right now, but I would love to share a drink with the good doctor and get a sense of him.
A lot of women on this forum support Dr. Paul.
I don't believe my vote counts so I feel helpless. Electronic voting in my city, no paper ballot.
love to share a drink...and get a sense of him....
very noble, congenial thoughts with lots of possibilites under the intellectually stilted wordsheet. I like it, you are suggestive in your prose about the poetry of your hidden rose<. Even if the good doctor in question is more Schweitzer than Kildare.
you crack me up - obviously you missed the "Sarah Palin MILF" posts so prevalent last year - even Bachmann gets up voted here, as "hawt". . .
have you seen Ron Paul's heavy female contingent? there was a thread very early in his "campaign" where he presented with four college aged females as his background, just ask baby_Blythe.
and "emotion"? puleeze, the e-motions can get very heated on these threads, and they're 90% testosterone driven.
"anger" is an emotion too dude.
but hey, it's okay, we get which way you're "hanging" - stick to the boys, win win.
Sarah and Bachmann would both get my meat as well.
But that doesn't mean I would VOTE for them! Women cannot seem to notice the difference.
Ever notice how there are no guy groupies chasing around the women singers? Hmmmmmm, wonder why that is?
okay, you're waaaay outta your league now, lol.
there are PLENTY of male groupies hanging around female singers, although there are vastly more who hang hopeful after the metal bands leave the stage.
also, not every fan is a groupie, male or female - some actually like the music.
but yet again, I suspect you're just making shit up, and have never been backstage in your life.
Interesting,
Because at every concert I have ever been to.....I do not see tons of men shrieking and screaming at the girl singers. But turn the camera around and holy shit, girls cannot get enough of Justin Bieber, hell soccer mom's cannot get enough of the 17 year old twilight actors.
Yet it is very different for the guy singers. Don't you know that girls love the alpha male but guys just love hot chics? Ever wonder why Tiger Woods was able to fvk so many girls even though they all knew he was married?
Gene Simmons also comes to mind.....every girl in the world knew how much he got around, but not one single girl cared.
No wonder girls loved Bill Clinton. Or even good old Berlusconi.
No self respecting women would give those two twats the time of day, unless they are conservative women who think the Wahabbis are truly the sons of Abraham dispensing the laws. They believe in being submissive. I am so tired of their Old Testament proselytizing and picayune minds... Ron Paul has some great ideas and some really really DUMB ones. Obama never delivered. We know where it's at. As for your wife, you should have chosen wisely, but on the other hand, stick with your sure thing, cos your attitude isn't going to get you any out there in the real world.
Here comes the misogyny police.
You would be surprised at what women love. Again, reference Rihanna or Tina Turner. Or all of the girls you know who tolerate the jerk guy. That would be me.
Don't know about you, but I will gladly take Sarah or Michelle over Ron anyday. Here is how I see it:
1) Sarah
2) Michelle B.
3) Newt
4) Ron
/
664) Elmer Fudd
665) Billary Clinton
666) Barak Hussain Obama
And that's the way it is.
Fox News... Balanced and Fair. Or in other words, they f**ked up the loony left's narrative.
And to the downvoters....just look around you to take evidence.
How many women loved Bill Clinton despite his running around on his wife?
How many women hated Bush despite being loyal to his?
How many women would Vote for Ron Paul versus some more charming shill who is more of the status quo?
How many women initiate divorce versus men?
How often are men granted custody?
How many girls do you see knocked up by thugs?
How many cry false rape?
How many accuse men of DV just to get them kicked out of his own house and automatically win the custody battle?
Just saying, it's hard to find a good one and I am thankful my wife is awesome. But look around you and open your eyes. Women are socialists at their core and the system is setup against men.
How many men liked Clinton because he ran around on his wife?
Bush had (has) sex with men.
Paul is charming. Put him on TV and the decision is easy, but most people have not seen much of him due to the wash that is the MSM.
What does who initiates divorce have to do with anything? Each divorce is different.
The court system is disfunctional. We could prove that with thousands of points other than custody.
How many thugs rape girls?
How many rapes go unreported?
How many DVs go unreported?
It is hard to find a good one, but ask women the same thing and they will let you know if it goes both ways.
You are using fallicies to support your arguement (appeal...appeal...appeal) each time.
If they were fallacies, you would use evidence to debate the subject. All you are doing is repointing at men.
My statements are all showing that as an aggregate, women use emotions for the vast majority of their decisions and that the system is setup to support them at the expense of men.
All you are posting is how women don't report rape, or dv.....which actually proves more of my point. How many women go back to their abusive ex's? Quite startling isn't it? Good ol Rihanna did it for a long while. Let's not forget Tina Turner.
By the way, didn't you love how Tiger's wife was jailed for her assault and battery? Oh wait, she got off free on that one.....
But againk, the real point is, women are socialists and will vote as such. Women also like strong charming men and will vote for them as well. They couldn't give two shits about the logic and reasoning behind a vote, which is EXACTLY why you see so few supporting a guy like Ron Paul.
wait, what?
your statements are merely that, your stated opinions - they are not FACTS unless you want to back them up with some, which you have not.
a bit of media gossip means fuck all, and you should know this - every day on ZH people mock the "news" for virtually everything reported - how is it that you feel confident that what you read in the gossip news is anything other than promo fictions?
paltry.
I have not stated opinions, they are all facts. Look up the statistics and data. The only "opinion" is that women vote more on emotion than logic.
I point again to the Bush/Clinton dichotomy as an good example.
I agree 100 percent! The first thing women did after getting the vote was to institute prohibition. What a success that was!
I know they mean well, but most women that I know seem to shun logic and mathematics. The country has been going downhill ever since they were given the vote. I think it is silly not to let women drive. But letting them vote is a very bad idea.
if you genuinely believe (I'll avoid the word "think") that "prohibition" was enacted solely because women were given a vote, then you are not doing any real research on the topic - first, zero women were elected officials, which created the amendment and law; second, women were not voting in sufficient numbers to push ANY agenda not already in the public mainstream.
it was mainly a CHURCH agenda - and yes, many women were counted as part of congregations - but they largely followed their pastors or husbands in their beliefs.
plenty of illegal monies were made during the prohibition (Joe Kennedy), funding much local "shadow law enforcement" which gained more control over population, working as intended.
as to your
reflects on you (nice screen name, that helps), not women - upgrade, or accept responsibility for your low status peer grouping.
History teaches us that the main reason why the Gregorian reforms of 1050-1075 amongst the christian clergy became urgent was the increasing corruption of the ecclesiastical class. The reforms decreed simony and fornication during confession as mortal sins. In those days monks were not obliged to be chaste or unmarried. The alarming rate of bastard, illegitimate births to nuns in the Nunnery of Argenteuil near PAris, was a typical example of rampant debauchery; where sex hungry nuns and their confessional brothers would coopulate in rock around the clock fashion. So shunning logic and maths was not the issue for the female kind. In fact, Heloise born our of wedlock became a scholar in her own rights even in those days. Getting rumbled and bumbled every day of the frigging week was more an issue, as those hairy monks were like DSK in Sofitel; running wild, running free. Blame it all on the dame, is, was, the name of the game since Adam humped and bumped Eve. To justify this male domination of his dikk over surrogate rib, we invented the snake and the ladder game that led down to mortal earth, and the impossible climb back up spent in repentence and purgatory.
Eve, now nailed to her cross as supreme bogey woman throughout the ages, would have to pay tribute to male hirsute fun n frolicks in doggy style servitude. So she had to be dumb, on logic and math, to accept that which no 'honourable' man would accept.
Right? right! Incidently, as consolation prize, Our bearded one above gave her the right to produce progeny and thus be slave to father, son, as well as producer of surrogate daughters, slaves for future generations. Not a bad scheme, one we all would loathe to lose to female emancipation. Its time they invented the female robot!
any story that names "women" impure, and simultaneously requires they be penetrated makes the "sex act" one of violence and disgust.
whether acknowledged consciously or enacted subconsciously, it's a story of punishment and guilt, an endless loop.
...and that the system is setup to support them at the expense of men.
People should ponder why there is an Office of Women's Health within the DHHS and no Office of Men's Health. It has squat to do with the relative health needs of women vs. men. Not that I'm advocating for such an office. It is telling, though.
Men have always been the expendable sex. Nature sets things up that way.
"Men" are the default "human" - "women" get defined in comparison to, not separately.
the only reason for a "Women's Health" was because all medicine USED to be based on tests done on male subjects only, and it's only fairly recently that "science" has acknowledged women's bodies are rather different - remember, all doctors used to be men in white coats, the medical priests robed in white, never to be questioned.
And now where are we?
We spend more money on breast cancer research even though it is lower than several other major killers on the list. Stroke and Heart Disease rank in the top and they don't get nearly the dollars and attention.
But then, Men might benefit from that, so best to keep the focus on something completely feminine.
dupe
how many political candidates, have delivered hundreds of babies, and been directly on a one to one level, involved in the health and wellbeing, of thousands of people?
I know I should just smile & scroll, but what the hell, I'll bite. . .
these questions are not answered, they are merely posed - so Dangertime, "how many"?
by asking leading questions and giving no answers or stats to back up your "argument" you are playing to the emotions of your male readers, but not providing any facts to back up your obvious neuroses.
so come on, how many?
I'm guessing you have no clue. . .
Look around you for the answers.
Observe society and then ask yourself those same questions, you may learn something. You can answer many of those questions by quickly typing it into google. Try it.
you are so full of shit, you can't dig your way out - YOU posted your phony facts, YOU "google" them.
I've already done my research, years ago.
Your first posted noted I asked questions and made no statements.....
Now you say I stated phony facts. What phony fact? Throw it up and here let's debate it.
And if you did your research, why are you not disproving my "facts" with links?
The fact is, women, through long conditioning and inherited genetic traits, think differently to men. Especially about emotions and its role in motivating pleasure and thus conditioning their relationship with men. So if we accept they have a different mind set to male one, the debate can start. Instead of treating them as 'dark, dumb continent' men would be better off learning to navigate in THEIR waters. Its only ONCE women world wide will no longer be a surrogate gender, Adam's rib, source of sin etc. that this debate and the way we mate as equals will become game on level playing field. Up till then its just vain polemics, as the playing field stays heavily tilted in Abraham's favour. The clitoris will vanquish Zulfiqar one day, instead of being vanquished in excision, you can bet on it. (For metaphor decoding read up Shia history).
The amazing thing is that Pagan culture recognised this; both Aphrodite and Sati/Sita in Indo Arian mythology, alike Isis, were iconic figures of female vitality and immortality. They put womanhood on divine footing right by Male deity's side.
Abraham et al. solved that problem to male hegemonical dominance. Time for major game change...
Dude,
Some of us women get wiped out in court when the guy earns less than she does. Been there, recovered from that.
Welcome to the world of Manhood. It sucks that you had to go through that, but usually it is the Man that suffers through that mess.
Did you at least get custody of the kids?
Joint. Because he made so little money, I took ALL the debt and paid child support. I need to be honest, did not get soaked for alimony, I know men often do.
Funny thing, even with taking all the debt, paying child support, insurance and more, I still stopped going into debt the month we split. I am out of debt and a saver now. He has since (even with me taking the debt) gone bankrupt. Once in a very blue moon I'll slip him money to fix his car and stuff (to me that is taking care of my kid). He does not ask, I just do it. Once in a blue moon he helps me out of jams (I can still count on him in a crisis if it is not financial). It is amicable enough to get our child raised.
You are one of the lucky one's then. And smart in that you managed your money well. Good for you, it 's the smart people that save the Country with the aggregate of their wise decisions.
Unfortunately the vast majority of divorced dads are in the same position as you, but also paying child support.
Did you mean Alimony, I paid child support.
Yes, my mistake. You are the exception though.
the only way for woman to beat man is by free libido earned from free economic identity, watch those dudes (incuding me) run when they try catching up with woman in this domain. It'll be more difficult than catching Usain Bolt. I don't refer to his hidden attributes which make white men fantasize more than his speed, as has been the case with black athletes since Jack Johnson days as reported then.
You have this one dead on. I am not dependant on a man. I choose to stay or walk everyday. It's nice. I can be real and he knows I am staying because I like it!
I have to make an avowal on this. My generation, some of us at least, was the first to learn what it meant to "go down town" to a woman. My elder brothers thought that was unthinkable and my father would have considered it 'betrayal' of male values. Needless to say the payload in return, for being humble water carrier, apart from it being 'share and share alike', was fantastic!
Of course today it is very common occurence as it should be. The times they are a changin...we are only 20 yrs old once in body but always in heart.
If you are not dependant on a man, then you are dependant on the government. Don't know about you, but I know which one I would chose as being more dependable. Just sayin.....
You don't know the strength of women at all, do you? You are a gynophobe and could learn a few things by getting over it ... as could most of the men in this thread. Seek therapy!
Kudos to you MsCreant! I come from a family of mentally strong and financially independent women (who were also married to strong and successful men), going back at least 3 generations and continuing now with my daughter, so I know exactly where you are coming from.
I always prefer to employ women in management positions.
You prefer to employ women in management positions?
That can't be true, I have been told my whole life that women are being kept down and that it is MISOGYNY that is rampant, not MISANDRY!
First of all, thank you ZH for making me laugh to the point of near oxygen depletion.
Secondly, since al-Wahhab purged Islam of any impurities, innovations as well as from natural evolution, including the domain of logic, freedom and other irrelevant and petty rights, I'd like to congratulate the wahhabis for a job well done regarding control of the masses. Bit over the top but c'est la vie as they say, I'm guessing not in Saudi Arabia.
I suspect that those women who are been charged with 40 (guessing) lashes for revealing their eyelashes might disagree with me. Then again who the fuck knows. People are so fundamentally stupid, that they sometimes actually oppose any change of the status quo, even if it's the one which shamelessly dictates their manipulated and miserable existence, just because of their narrow thinking, caused I'm guessing by inadequate intelligence + normalcy bias.
I remember when I would watch Turkish women opposing the compulsory use of a headscarf a few years back, while at the same time they were faced with such strong opposition by none other than their own sex, when a much larger group of non-urban, highly religious-fobic women was calling them something along the lines of godless heathens.
To rant further, If you are over the age of 25 and believe in the naive notion of democracy then you are a moron. If you believe in an imaginary man-made concoction, upon which political and economic serving doctrines have been applied for centuries, you are a moron.
If you are a whole state using said political and economic serving doctrine to control your own people in a suppressive manner, then you better keep that crude flowing.
If you try to explain to me that I'm ignorant and that religious faith is a "very complicated and sensitive subject, whose prevalence and existence can be rationally explained in a very analytical fashion, through the evolution of social entities within the broader sociological frame" - I don't give a shit, and you are a moron.
/Friday night drink on mode bches
Sounds bullish for sheep gut condoms, the Saudis being "traditionalists" and all.
Virgins are over rated.
one picture says a 1000 words
http://files.makuhwa.com/ 200000157-7fe3c80dd9/FinancialPlanning.jpgI am pretty sure the link above is a specially crafted link or a link that links to a malware page that will infect your computer with Win 7 Security 2012 trojan virus. This is one of the only things I did different and I have pretty good security and next thing I know I have a nasty trojan. BEWARE. Google Win 7 Security 2012 and you will see that it is a trojan masquerading as Security Software
I will add that the href for the link is:
http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Ffiles.makuhwa.com%2F2000001...
Whereas the link text is:
http://files.makuhwa.com/ 200000157-7fe3c80dd9/FinancialPlanning.jpg (note the space in the link)
If you click the link you get a facebook warning page. I actually highlighted the link text and put that in a new tab and I got a blank page. Very suspicious
UPDATE: Well it pretty much hosed my OS. The only good news is that this system has a ghosted backup drive which is apparently unaffected. For whatever reason the diabolical fucks who wrote this virus did not see fit to spread it to backup drives in the same computer. So I just repaired the ghosted drive so it was bootable in Win 7 64 bit and then I format the original drive and will ghost this backup back to it. Still not how I wanted to spend my friday night (although thank god it did not happen during market hours.)
Virgins will be hard to come by if Saudi woman drive. I guess Osama got word back from the grave that his 72 virgins are not really virgins at all but are used and smelly blow up dolls. Osama likes to be the driver but not on vinyl cushions.
"Women driving = bad things (to paraphrase the topic)"
Solution? Make the women the only legal ambulance drivers in the country. Once a cleric or two dies for want of transport to a hospital, maybe they'd rethink their position?
Driving is so passé, particularly when you’ve advanced like the Jewish women to join the Israeli army to “Spot and Shoot.”
The women operators (you know, the hands that once shook the cradles) sit in front of a TV monitor from which they can control the action with a PlayStation-style joystick.
The aim: to kill Palestinians in Gaza with the press of a button on the joystick. The female soldiers, located far away in an operations room, aim and fire remote-controlled machine-guns mounted on watch-towers every few hundred meters along an electronic fence that surrounds Gaza.
Audio sensors on the towers mean that the women hear the shot as it kills the target.
Giora Katz, Rafael’s vice-president of Rafael’s remote-controlled military hardware, says Spot and Shoot is the face of the future and expects that within a decade at least a third of the “machines” used by the Israeli army to control land, air and sea will be unmanned.
When in Israel, what woman wants to drive when she can play a real life video game where the image on the screen really is exterminated?
That's great since you can't prosecute a machine for war crime.
aren't women equal and able to enjoy all the rights of men?
According to the quran the women orgasmate seven times more than man, whence man's dilemma of not letting the genie out of the bottle. Female libido if freed would be awesome.
LMAO. Having the best time marking these posts of yours up.
Where are the neocon cries to invade Saudi Arabia? Weren't 12 of the 13 9/11 hijackers from there? Wasn't binladen from there? Now repression of women! C'mon gingrich how about some "covert" operations? Sanctions, at least? Overthrow the repressive regime! Oh, they are bought out by the US government? oh, never mind.
Global Warming and now Virgin Depletion.
What's this world coming to!
These cretins confuse the sweet fuck out of me. Freud would have a field day with these crazies…I bet my bottom dollar everyone on that committee is plagued by recurring homosexual thoughts. “Yessss“, Freud would say in his bizarre tones, “the tragic women have to bear the brunt of the hostility, due to the weight of the shame imposed by the Muslim super-ego. Muslim men are closet homosexuals, they’re macho persecution of women act’s as a cathartic catalyst for hiding the suppressed sexual shame that the subconscious trys to present to them“. But Freud would remind any of them - suppressing the subconscious ID is dangerous; you might turn its frivolous, ambiguous and frankly meaningless suggestions into a wide-spread, full-blown societal psychosis…and then you’re wide open(no pun intended). Muslims need to embrace they’re ego's, but their collective ego is suppressed by the firepower of symbolic religious shame employed by the super ego that gets its nourishment by the religious society. That’s why its my opinion that Jasmine revolutions are useless in the Muslim world… what they need is a sexual revolution, AIDS and eveything.
Get that Burka off bitch and lets get messy, wooooooh cut a hole in it baby....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bAekG9VwQc
These conservative fundie societies like order, or at least the idea of the perfect order. Their idea of 'Heaven' is a state of a perfect orderliness of mind and behaviour - "perfection" - and to attain it, personally, they collectively feel as a society they need a perfect order and aspiration for a perfect order, here, and now.
Or else they won't ever attain it, unless they all create a society in which it can occur, which requires the mental and physical torture suppression of sexuality being repressed and denied. The ultimate in delayed gratification.
I don't think we should doubt or discount their deep desire to generate this perfection and goodness in humanity, if we're interested in understanding them. If something does not make cultural 'sense' to us, then there's a better than even chance it has a rational basis, we simply don't grasp what it is yet.
Many, or rather, MOST of them feel that way - profoundly - even if they are complete hypocrites (and yes, it breeds hypocritical behaviour).
All I'm saying is, don't forget that this drive for divine and heavenly purity drives the puritanical attitudes that seem so dodgy and arbitrary to us, because that desire for divine order is where they are coming from, mentally and 'spiritually'.
I can respect that, even if I disagree with their assessment of the moral danger.
It is their personal choice. There is NO REAL personal internal morality order and purification, that can ever be driven from an outside source - via a state, judiciary, or a 'religious' heirarchy.
It has to come from inside the individual, or else it is false, and any God would know they were faking.
That they are generally so very concerned with generating a people "pleasing to God", tells me their heart is ultimately in the right place. They want to be good people, and to protect and guard this concerted shared societal attempt to purify themselves, indicidually and collectively, of 'sin'.
Frankly, I know 'Sin' in the sense that they think and use it, does not exist at all.
It is purely a mental invention, as means of mass control. And it works.
Lastly, it would be a mistake to think, or to expect, ANY mere political revolution to compete with this entrenched cultural desire for a perfected man and woman.
I don't think they need a "sexual revolution", I just think they need to start facing some facts about hormones and the second-hand man-made 'religions' that grew from other people's incommunicable original personal experiences.
Imitation is not a religion. And the assault of hormones and sexual curiousity.obsession will not be denied - ever.
we all know it is better to let it run its course and exhaust itself, than to deny or [FAIL] to suppress it.
Besides the Saudi's bizarre piety and the savagery and anguish it generates, I sure can respect the individual desire to be a good and orderly person, and to work with others closely to give themselves a equal fighting-chance to achieve it. (i.e. a 'Jihad' - the war of the purifying)
I've never liked the term 'sexual revolution', nor any the idealised baggage that come along with it. I just like making love with my partner. I never wanted any revolution in our bedroom. I wouldn't want one extreme to be replaced with another, that is equally bent damaging of human relationships.
A sexual revolution, to me, is equally as weird and unbalanced as what these religious Arab big-wigs are saying.
My gold-backed 2c
Think the Saudis are tough on chicks? Check out these Lebanese commandos in training.Let's see those mullahs do this to any women caught driving - then I'll believe they are real men.
http://www.plus961.com/2011/11/lebanese-army-commando-eating-a-chicken-alive/
See, that's what happens without foreign oil.
Nice job, Saudi Arabia, but don't forget blindess, a known result of putting a windshield in front of a woman's face.
\sarc
I'm not touching this thread with a ten foot pole.
sorry robero,
you have to fight..your opponent tonight is carlos.
when someone tapps out, it is over.
Saudi Arabia is in a tight corner,( a bit like the Fed, sexuality-wise). Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
I lived there. Sex is on the mind of men and women to an extent incomprehensible for someone from a sexually free society. Bored, educated Saudi women take to dialling random phone numbers with a 50% chance of connecting to a frustrated expat.
Since the mixing of the sexes has been traditionally so suppressed, any relaxation will immediately uncork the bottle of repressed desire. Driving instructors would be utterly unprepared to deal with a flood of female students, a vision from their wettest dreams.
The only part that is hard to follow is the foreseen "increase in homosexuality".
One would expect a decrease.
I struggle making the homosexuality connection too -- only thing I could come up with was the other other day when this woman almost hit me and I said "Fuck me!" Fortunately there were no Saudi men in the car.
Fortunately for your there were no Saudi women either; or by the sounds of this thread they would more than likely have taken you at your word and have raped you given their accumulated sexual deficit, worse than that in financial terms of the US government.
For homosexuality read my thread above, and the correlation that female liberties would turn men to looking for solace with boys, as the inference is, Saudi men HATE free, uppity women, it kills their hard ons.
These smug fundamentalist Wahhabists are a joke. They'd be long dead as a political force in region if the USA wern't supporting them as guardians fo the West's Oil patch, preferred partners in corporate mayhem. Riad is new Constantinople and source of riches thanks to the traditional oil pipeline monopoly like that of the old silk and spice routes.
In 630AD the female family members of the Prophet rode to war by his side. His wife was a entrepreneur that ran whole trade caravans. In theory according to quranic law muslim women are man's equals, but in reality they have no existence. So if the Prophet's wife etc. could run businesses and ride their own camels 1400 years ago, why can't they drive cars today?
As for virginity, the whole subject of female rights to their own body is beyond religious dogma, its in the realm of human rights. Period.
Remember that pederasty was very common then amongst Arabs and Persians converted to Islam, as intercourse between "beardless" men and adults was tolerated, in fact the "baccha dance" is a tradition that goes back to Mahmood of Ghazni days, and still prevails in Afghanistan as it did then in Samarcand and all over muslim central asia. So these guys better revise their social history. The fundamentalists are the worst revisionists as its not fact that fuels their minds but divine 'fiction'.
great post falak pema, particularly this:
the word "virgin" has been defined by FatherGod religions that deny female personhood, and seek to subjugate females as beneath males (hierarchy). . . religion has no interest for me, but I find the Goddess traditions more rich with lore, which define "virgin" as "a woman unto herself" - that is, once a female is self-aware, she can choose to engage sexually with others, male or female, but she remains unto herself, loses nothing.
everything else is just fantasy that debases & seeks control.
http://www.creativesoulworks.com/italy_2008_woman_unto.html
One thing is SURE to happen. A lot more shitty incompetent drivers out there! The only thing worse than a woman driver is an Asian woman driver.
Yesterday an Asian man driving an Infinity aggressively cut me off for no reason (no signal, breaking the law) and almost caused an accident. Turns out both of us were dropping our sons at school. I got there, dropped my son, and left, before he finished pulling up. He got nothing time wise out of cutting me off.
Should I generalize to all Asian men because this happened to me?
@" should i.."
no, blame either his wife or his mother.
OK I can't resist any longer.
You've pushed me too far.
Know why Asians are crappy drivers?
If your eyes were like that you couldn't see shit either.
http://www.targetmap.com/viewer.aspx?reportId=3073
Sounds like a very strong argument for allowing women to drive!
its true
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they mite drive away
I liked this. Maybe the truest of all the observations made here.
a country that gets its energy from a patriarchal fundamentalist
kingdom and its financing and products from a communist slave labor nation
can hardly laugh much concerning its own growing exponential
aggregate debt, even if the select few have accomplished their personal
corrupted american dream of whoring their position for kickbacks
and other forms of personal wealth aggregation and assorted forms of
stealing and other "donations", aka politics and business in the usa too.
it is no consolation that said country supplies the soldiers and military
contracts to steal resources for its partners and blackmailing controllers.
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since it's friday i will laugh. hahahah. there.
now it is nearly saturday morning and what will i do?
i am collecting cardboard and looking for tunes on you tube.
sounds like a plan ......cardboard and youtube. still legal in
the usa? sheesh.. i mean the authorities have not developed a
terminal fear of cardboard or youtube? have they?
give them the rope to ....... someone out there is
setting this trap, unfolding.
once upon a late night time, ages ago, you linked a Television tune from youtube, one of my all time faves.
here's one for you, it's a classic, but maybe you'll enjoy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTTKcrbQog8
thread closers. . .
The Slits - Typical Girls
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyXGblps64M
Patti Smith - Smells Like Teen Spirit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2tv1ShcVmQ&feature=BFa&list=AVGxdCwVVULX...
". . . typical girls. . . get the typical boys. . ."
Girls who are boys
Who like boys to be girls
Who do boys like they're girls
Who do girls like they're boys......
the distinctions are not binary,
and apart from the labels,
neither are the genitals.
memorise the playbook,
get the gold star
or be imaginative
and throw out the rules.
cui bono
On this topic (gender) you are our best poster in my opinion. Powerful.
...gibbish. :)
thank you MsC - SOC213: Sociology of Gender *wink*
I was cursed with the need to ask "why" and it sent me on a very convoluted journey, to gather the required experiences and make comparisons, and sense, of what is believed, and the consequences. . . it's a "red pill" thing, so even if I'm not all that interested in money, I AM interested in the manipulation of whole cultures based on the acquisition of money.
Philosophy, History too. . . eyes wide open, always in flight. . .
(with a constant soundtrack, of course =] )
@" that was the river, this is the sea.."
thank you for your memory. you must be a
a real person/beautiful being!
,
i was on the rocks today. what they call the jetty
or a jetty. i walked out on it into the sea, from the sand.
one thought i had was .. this is the ocean i see. sea. ?
and it covers the globe, is the source of life and the mind
can encompase it in one instant, as in one drop represents,
encodes, all of it, its composition. the dynamics are different.
relational and tangential, where the beauty and joy manifest.
where waves of "sea" water beat on rock and sand.
so there i was, looking at nothing. waves and stone , being
waves and stone.
everything was happening but from where i was
i could not see it.
.
thank you for your memory. etc... ... . . . .. .. .. . .
.
mask
From: peacsees | Apr 5, 2011
http://www.youtube.com/user/peacsees#p/u/20/xNVClRFQpYM
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ps.
Tom Waits - "Bad As Me"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6Ta3H-ck6s
..
whatnot and whatever !
.
the sea is something I can never be too far from, despite being a constant traveler, I still end up landing nearby the waves. . .
there is little that cannot be resolved by taking the time to "see" the rhythms of being here, a part of the story, putting aside the weight of solo self, melding into the whole, rise and fall - love that ancient metaphor, of self-aware wave, rising, cresting, then falling back into the vastness. . .
all there is.
then play! play music! personal soundtrack to personal cresting, inspired, then forgotten. . .
*cheshire cat smile*
...and global warming.:)
Yeah, but defendead human rites and freedom in Syria! ... after crushie Baahrain ... so gets free passes to self-rightous hippiecrasy ... we all know womens drivings bad for pubic edifications ... next wants eat cheese cake! ... where it ends?! ... sits on gear knobs when alone?! ... so must take out all gearstick? ... no possible! ... so women not drives! ... no trust with gear stick ... next want diesel motor so vibrates more with 4 on floor ... is untentable!
Thanks, element, for conjuring up the mental porno show. :-)
Hey, is this for sure? There are a couple babes I'd be willing to put in the drivers seat if I thought it would help my chances. Just wondering.
Women are Better Drivers than Men.
In response to several comments that women are worse drivers than men: there has been study after study on this with the same conclusion based on insurance claims, reports, DMV, etc.
80% of all fatal accidents caused by Men.
http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/01/12/10142027-insurance-study-women-are-better-drivers-than-men?lite