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Friday Humor: "I Am Pledging To Cut The Deficit We Inherited By Half By The End Of My First Term In Office"

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President Obama, February 2009

"We can not and will not sustain deficits like these without end. Contrary to the prevailing wisdom in Washington these past few years, we can not simply spend as we please and defer the consequences to the next budget, the next administration or the next generation. We are paying the price for these deficits right now. In 2008 alone we paid $250 billion in interest on our debt, that is more than three times what we spent on education that year, more than seven times what we spent on VA healthcare. So if we confront this crisis without also confronting the deficits that helped cause it, we risk sinking into another crisis down the road as our interest payments rise, our obligations come due, confidence in our economy erodes and our children and grandchildren are unable to pursue their dreams because they are saddled with our debts. That's why today I am pledging to cut the deficit we inherited by half by the end of my first term in office. This will not be easy - it will require us to make difficult decisions and face challenges we have long neglected but i refuse to leave our children with a debt they can not repay. And that means taking responsibility right now in this administration, for getting our spending under control."

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Fri, 08/03/2012 - 17:50 | 2676934 FOC 1183
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He didn't build that deficit.  Someone else made that happen

Fri, 08/03/2012 - 17:58 | 2676955 Bay of Pigs
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thats GOLD

Fri, 08/03/2012 - 18:03 | 2676982 MillionDollarBonus_
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It's so cool that Michelle Obama is getting involved in the Olympics and teaching kids to eat healthy and get fit! This is what the Olympic spirit is a about - important world leaders getting down to earth and speaking to the people from their hearts. I am humbled that our government is going above and beyond their statutory duties and taking an interest in people's health. This is going to kickstart a revolution in healthy eating. 

Fri, 08/03/2012 - 18:05 | 2676987 spastic_colon
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especially when healthy food at the grocery store costs 10 times more than a big mac!

Fri, 08/03/2012 - 18:43 | 2677089 nope-1004
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So Obammy is full of shit?

Huh.... who would have guessed that?


Fri, 08/03/2012 - 19:12 | 2677154 TruthInSunshine
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Wow, good work ZH.

This gem is incredible and shows the utter and complete failure of Obama's pledge regarding spending even more so than the speech he gave in 2006 as a Senator, and he doesn't have the cover of not knowing the extent of the financial and economic crisis we would be in when he made it, as he made this pledge during the height of the financial and fiscal crisis.

The gap between what Obama pledged and what he has done is larger than any POTUS that I can recall.

I make this statement fully convinced that the two party system in the United States is a true illusion of choice, and represents a false left-right paradigm, whereby both parties are financed and work for the same exact people and institutions, and only use social wedge issues du jour to distract and lull the electorate into the belief  that the two parties are different in any significant respect.

Fri, 08/03/2012 - 19:55 | 2677226 economics9698
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Thanks MDB I needed a good laugh.

Fri, 08/03/2012 - 20:26 | 2677263 francis_sawyer
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I pledge to grow 'magic okra' in the White House Garden for health...

That's the kind that grows itself during the July~August months while I'm in Spain with 3 dozen of my BFN's, then, magically harvests itself & jumps into Tiffany boxes to hand out to foreign wife dignitaries so that their asses can become as shapely as mine (as illustrated here)...


Fri, 08/03/2012 - 20:51 | 2677303 engineertheeconomy
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Engineered economic collapse and subsequent Martial Law/civil war will continue as planned regardless of who is the Puppet and who oils the printing press bearings. You will be assimilated

Fri, 08/03/2012 - 21:43 | 2677373 Colombian Gringo
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Obamas promise to cut the deficit by half is proof that he has a sense of humor. The sad part is that the joke is on the american people who will pay more taxes to receive less. Revolution Bitchez!

Fri, 08/03/2012 - 22:10 | 2677420 malikai
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There are no revolutions. There are only reversions.

Fri, 08/03/2012 - 23:54 | 2677514 strannick
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Obama is black therefore he represents working people. We dont even need debates.

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 00:10 | 2677530 iDealMeat
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Jesus H. Christ..  What part of "Stop shopping at retail do y'all not understand..???"

You want this crap to end??.  Then STOP.!.  Every time you buy some useless shit at retail

you condone the intl. corp slave machine...  Every time you buy some useless shit at retail

you pay TAX!!..


STOP!  as in fucking  just STOP!!!

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 00:38 | 2677548 Michael
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Government Silently Positions for Martial Law as Financial Collapse Arrives in America

Santilli explains that his knowledge of Rex 84 provides that within the document, one of the scenarios that would cause a complete suspension of the US Constitution, Bill of Rights and implement martial law would be a financial collapse. He says once the collapse occurs, the US government and defense agencies estimate they have a 72 hour window to activate all procedures to ensure continuity of government as well as a lockdown of the general population as civilian unrest, riots and outbreaks of violence are anticipated.

A source in the Deutsche Bank claims that in 2008 our financial and monetary system completely collapsed and since that time the banking cartels have been “propping up the system” to make it appear as if everything was fine. In reality our stock market and monetary systems are fake; meaning that there is nothing holding them in place except the illusion that they have stabilized since the Stock Market Crash nearly 5 years ago.

Since this time, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) in conjunction with FEMA and other federal agencies have been quickly working to set in place their directives of control under a silent martial law.

The Deutsche Bank informant says that the cause for the bailout of the banks was a large sum of cash needed quickly to repay China who had purchased large quantities of mortgage-backed securities that went belly-up when the global scam was realized. When China realized that they had been duped into buying worthless securitized loans which would never be repaid, they demanded the actual property instead. The Chinese were prepared to send their “people” to American shores to seize property as allocated to them through the securitized loan contracts.

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 01:04 | 2677557 TruthInSunshine
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Being cynical and inherently skeptical of government intentions as I am, I love a good conspiracy as much as anyone, but, and this is not intended to offend you or directed at you personally, that article reads like something written under the influence of waaaay too much chronic, or by the Department of Homeland Dis-Information in order to portray anyone advocating that government agencies are anything other than completely benevolent is batshit crazy.

When China realized that they had been duped into buying worthless securitized loans which would never be repaid, they demanded the actual property instead. The Chinese were prepared to send their “people” to American shores to seize property as allocated to them through the securitized loan contracts.





Sat, 08/04/2012 - 02:02 | 2677573 Michael
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 It makes sense to me as alphabet soup agencies are all playing secret agent man these days, and the 750 million hollow point bullets the government recently purchased to use on American civilians is telling.

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 03:29 | 2677599 Bloodstock
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My guess is that the American public owns a sizable amount of bullets as well, so,,,,,,

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 04:49 | 2677621 Western
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You're right, that means that there is no martial law and that we should all go buy mcdonalds happy meals and forget about everything.


whoops, no need to actually load those bullets and prepare mentally for a fight!

Sun, 08/05/2012 - 00:01 | 2678988 Bloodstock
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Lol, not exactly. Face the facts. The U.S. Government can't keep track of anything except chosen data. With this many bullets laying around, there are reasons for them coming up missing including black market sales, bartering etc. Yes it is a hell of a number but not all of the military and/or police departments, sheriffs, etc., will go along with the insanity of betrayal to the U. S. Constitution and WILL play a large role in a revolution, probably confiscating millions of rounds for the good guys. It is always wise to be aware of the surrounding but to give up hope is not something that I will be party to. Guess we're going to see what happens.

Sun, 08/05/2012 - 06:04 | 2679153 Element
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Come on, he's just mis-spoke ... happens all the time ...

And you're not even supposed to be paying attention.

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 06:24 | 2677666 Disenchanted
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"that article reads like something written under the influence of waaaay too much chronic"


Read this one then...from August 5, 2000 re: Operation Garden Plot:


Or read the Miami Herald article("REAGAN AIDES AND THE 'SECRET' GOVERNMENT") from July 1987 that's reproduced here(scroll down):


other tidbits here:


Garden Plot & Rex 84
Sat, 08/04/2012 - 08:15 | 2677716 Vic Vinegar
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Way to knock my socks off, spacemonkey!  Rex 84 makes me think of this little ditty by Tammy Wynette and Tom T Hall

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 08:52 | 2677752 Disenchanted
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little pukes like you are part of the fucking problem...


"lets just put all this(criminality and corruption) behind us and move on, move forward," or whatever/however it's expressed.


I've turned on my special ZH douchebag filter, so your pathetic apologetic posts and paens to Pollyannas everywhere will no longer register on my screen.


Jesus H. Christ you really think that markets/financials/economics/Wall Street/banking and politics/geopolitics are two completely disconnected subjects? Because that's the vibe I'm getting.


Speaking of spacemonkeys...Your obsession with little robot pop music whores is slightly unnerving. But you'd probably like Mikkie from the group Vintage of Russia: (trust me the little robot whore video is there within that link, plus a few others ;)


good day Apparatchik of the Failed USA status quo party...(btw I find the likes of you and nmewn to be good comrades in that all inclusive party)

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 09:21 | 2677792 Vic Vinegar
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Little pukes like me are part of the problem.  

If only you'd get a few more greens while doing nothing about nothing, then we'd get somewhere!

I'm totally not interacting with morons and/or gov't trolls!  Reading ZH is a good use of time

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 18:27 | 2678601 Gift Whores
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I try to buy my ammo at wholesale.

Or reload it myself.

Fri, 08/03/2012 - 21:50 | 2677387's picture

"I like my species the way it is." -- Lt. Worf

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 08:18 | 2677720 Vic Vinegar
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Not me.  Put me in the pro-transhumanism camp.  Man has to move forward, bitches.

This is actually a genuine comment.  Until then, the trolling only gets worse.  

JDRose1984 - I feel you!

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 08:34 | 2677734 GetZeeGold
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OK...we're sorry.


Anything else?




Fri, 08/03/2012 - 21:46 | 2677377 Al Gorerhythm
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Hey Michelle, just try growing a people's garden on the verge in front of the WH. The militarized, code violation police from city council would soon have that uprooted and your home surrounded by thought police. Wait a sec, that is the case already.

Fri, 08/03/2012 - 21:49 | 2677383 Pool Shark
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Appropriate response to Obama's Pledge:


Fri, 08/03/2012 - 21:58 | 2677400 Al Gorerhythm
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How many pledges does it take to buy a president?

How many pledges does it take to buy a nation. 

How many pledges does it take to swear your oath of office?

Fri, 08/03/2012 - 22:18 | 2677428 Muppet of the U...
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He can still fulfill his promise! MONETIZE THE DEBT BRO.  SUDDEN DEATH ENDGAME.

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 08:29 | 2677725 Goner
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Another option is we simply change the way we calculate the debt. This is a time tested Govemenment method (or banking) to meet goals. Move liabilties from one column over to the asset side and poof ... the national debt is gone. Of course we still owe 16 Trillion, but that debt is now an asset!

Or hire Corzine to make it vaporise, in exchange we let him off the hook for all the criminal charges currently pending and commute his current prison term. I assume this would be a good deal for him as the law must be all over him


Sat, 08/04/2012 - 02:40 | 2677583 Zero Debt
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The appropriate response should state that the deficit is an outcome and not a decision variable, it emanates from revenues and expenses, and expenses itself are consequences of the ambition and scope of activities carried out and promises made. Thus, cutting a deficit requires reducing the ambition of the government, its scope of activities, giving up on the promises it has made, which at this point means breaking a lot of promises, and stopping to make new promises and keeping its ambitions and activities limited.

But reaching a consensus for this requires an attitude shift. To reduce central government scope and ambition requires a different view that favors, encourages, cheers for and supports people and organizationss with vastly different attributes in a society: Decentralization, self-sufficiency, resilience, autonomy, awareness, alertness, positive attitudes to entrepreneurs and trade based on sound money with the risk of failure and pushing responsibility back to a local level in all matters of importance: health care, education, law enforcement, industry policy, agriculture, the list goes on.

To avoid doing this requires the combined skills of a pathological liar that can continue to extend promises as well an overly ambitious mentality with high charisma that can convince voters to approve of overly ambitious grand schemes and plans and government-sponsored activities, such as deficit-driving wars and deficit-driving welfare. This profile fits Obama's skill set exactly. He represents the secret wish of many voters: they want to be lied to, they want to believe in eternal promises, grand plans and be taken care of so they can stop being alert.

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 11:53 | 2678014 Watauga
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In which speech did he blabber that if he failed to cut the deficit in half then he SHOULD BE a ONE TERM PRESIDENT?

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 13:27 | 2678191 JohnKozac
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"Follow the leaer" is what I see more and more people doing. Don't pay for anything---mortgages, credit cards, doctors bills---just put it on credit (or a loan) and then follow the leaders and don;t pay it off.

It's an infection from the top doan that is changing our "work ethic" culture. Long term looks dismal if leaders and the people who follwo them, go this path. Just another eason why house prices will continue to plunge.....

House too old---walk away;

...don't like your mortgage----just walk away;

move for a job---walk away, forget that old neighborhood;


..and so on....bleak-to-dismal is my forecast.


Sun, 08/05/2012 - 01:17 | 2678906 HamFistedIdiot
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Zero Debt -

We can start with the bloat at the Department of Homeland Security, that as of Feb 2010 has nearly 400,000 employees, 12,000 of whom make in excess of $150K per year. I wish Ron Paul stayed in the game and fought the good fight. Will Gary Johnson (libertarian pres candidate) do the job of eliminating half of the alphabet agencies and departments that are bleeding our nation dry? No wonder the feds borrow 40¢ of every dollar they spend. I think they're going to borrow till the whole thing collapses; but it's not going to be allowed to collapse until enough people and businesses are either bankrupt or on the government dole and under their control.

Then the fascists can get on with their depopulation agenda, while blaming everything on the free market that never was -- or on the rural white guy with a gun who wouldn't know a credit default instrument (ie the banker death star built to destroy the planet's economic system born in the City of London) if it stared him in the face.

Mon, 08/06/2012 - 08:28 | 2681242 Widowmaker
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"...the free market that never was."

This is all that matters.  Every turd of bullshit stems from this fact.


Fri, 08/03/2012 - 22:37 | 2677460 uncle_vito
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Not nice to make fun of Michelle.  She cannot help it.

Fri, 08/03/2012 - 23:28 | 2677496 engineertheeconomy
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Sat, 08/04/2012 - 06:51 | 2677678 Vic Vinegar
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why don't you do it, sweetie-pie?

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 08:37 | 2677738 GetZeeGold
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Howza bout no one does it. Go preach to someone else. I'm done.



Sat, 08/04/2012 - 07:57 | 2677710 Vic Vinegar
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And people why many of the more intelligent commenters have left this site.  LOL

Me - I'm just dumb, bored and lack hobbies.  I actually respond to a comment that supposedly wonders why someone doesn't do something.  But then again, I appreciate irony, too.

Tyler - your site is a fuking joke.  I have great respect for you (seriously) but if you cannot see my agenda vs. the rest, then so it goes.  Kick somebody out or the trolling continues.  

Take no hostages!

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 09:42 | 2677814 engineertheeconomy
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Just kick yourself out you stupid troll

Fri, 08/03/2012 - 22:35 | 2677455 Roandavid
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Milliondollarboner is my new hero.

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 06:07 | 2677651 Vic Vinegar
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Why not threadjack here?

Sure buddy.

  • to widen the scope of financial, economic and political information available to the professional investing public.
  • to skeptically examine and, where necessary, attack the flaccid institution that financial journalism has become.
  • to liberate oppressed knowledge.
  • to provide analysis uninhibited by political constraint.
  • to facilitate information's unending quest for freedom.
  • to keep abreast of the most popular Katy Perry videos.


Which of these is not like the other?  More importantly, which of these matters?

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 06:10 | 2677655 Vic Vinegar
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and yes the threadjacking will continue until Tyler makes his choice, Bachellorete-style.  

We all gotta choose.  

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 06:30 | 2677670 Disenchanted
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Hopefully the choice will be cutting lickspittles who post way too many KP videos...



lickspittle Definition lick·spit·tle [ lík spìtt'l ] lick·spit·tles Plural NOUN  1.  toady: somebody who shows undue deference toward social superiors or powerful people ( literary ) (my edit to this definition:) 2. Vic Vinegar
Sat, 08/04/2012 - 07:31 | 2677696 Vic Vinegar
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How do you log onto this site and type "Disenchanted" with a straight face?  More dignity would come from a userid of "Jerry Sandusky's Tuesday afternoon hard-on".  

Just a thought, no?

But per the agenda...let's keep people from staying on topic or talking about making things better.  I get it.

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 08:38 | 2677742 GetZeeGold
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I get it.


I don't think you do actually.


Sat, 08/04/2012 - 09:26 | 2677796 Vic Vinegar
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Sure you do.

I mean, I've learned so much from you.  You have totally changed the way I view the world.

Well not really, but it's still fun to kick people while they are down, no?  You seem to enjoy.











































































































Sat, 08/04/2012 - 17:01 | 2678516 TruthInSunshine
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Hey Vic, thanks for cluttering up this thread into an absolute cluster (not).

Hollywood called and they want to cast you in the blockbuster hit "Troll Harder."

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 12:57 | 2678006 fuu
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For the record, you were absolutely right about the arrows.


Fri, 08/03/2012 - 20:29 | 2677266 Ima anal sphincter
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Two parties - one agenda. The American people are NOT part of that agenda.

Fri, 08/03/2012 - 20:57 | 2677310 engineertheeconomy
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Total Enslavement of the American People is the entirety of their agenda

fixed it for you

Fri, 08/03/2012 - 21:09 | 2677330 francis_sawyer
Sat, 08/04/2012 - 09:29 | 2677797 Vic Vinegar
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I feel bad because Tyler seems like such a good guy.  (Maybe he's a douche in real life but I could care less.)  The articles fuking rock.

But ETE is such a damn joke it's an insult to anyone who is here.  But maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyybeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

I'm wrong.  That guy seems popular with some.

Fri, 08/03/2012 - 21:41 | 2677371 roadsnbridges
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Please explain Jason Chaffetz.

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 06:17 | 2677661 Vic Vinegar
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Sat, 08/04/2012 - 06:13 | 2677657 Vic Vinegar
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If life is just downtime until a new ZH post:

Two parties - one agenda. The American people are NOT part of that agenda.


Wow - that's totally worthy of 14 greens.  I feel so smart for having read that and greening you!

/sarc off

/Katy Perry on

Ima anal sphincter: I'd be more impressed if you told me your uncle was Kenny G.  Just sayin'

Fri, 08/03/2012 - 23:57 | 2677523 vast-dom
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you mean someone actually believed obummer and his promises? 

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 06:19 | 2677662 Vic Vinegar
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Why are you hung up on obummer when you haven't opined on this video yet?

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 08:42 | 2677747 GetZeeGold
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Deep breaths Vic.......count to 10.



Sat, 08/04/2012 - 09:33 | 2677804 Vic Vinegar
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No deep breaths needed.  I'm actually quite calm.  This has been building for a while.

I have an agenda: get rid of the nonsensical, paid agitators.  I'll keep going all weekend if need-be.  

This can be fun!

Sun, 08/05/2012 - 08:16 | 2677838 GetZeeGold
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I'm actually quite calm.


Does that mean we can start using the wire hangers again Mommy Dearest?


Sat, 08/04/2012 - 10:14 | 2677862 mtomato2
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Calmer'n you are, Dude...

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 08:34 | 2677733 disabledvet
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The Senate came awful close to taking out the insane media this past week. Amazingly "we need 60 votes to be safe in our own home." yet the more amazing thing is that the vote happened at all...and that it got a clear majority. The gig is up...the decks are about to be cleared. I might not live to see the day but to me "the outcome is not in doubt." I would not be surprised to see trials as a result of what's been going on oh these last few years. A TRUE consensus is now forming across the entirety of Washington DC to attack this monstrosity of identity annihilation and I think the folks who've made it their life's work will soon rue the day that were ever even born.

Fri, 08/03/2012 - 22:48 | 2677476 Harbanger
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That's a misconception. A Big Mac costs $3.57, organic bananas cost 99 cents a pound.

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 01:01 | 2677556 JLee2027
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Thats...racist dude

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 06:20 | 2677663 Vic Vinegar
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Yeah greenie...I buy silver and live in Florida.  I get sarc too.

Fri, 08/03/2012 - 18:07 | 2676991 Rainman
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..." she hates fat people " .. .. ..Oprah Winfrey

Fri, 08/03/2012 - 18:12 | 2677000 SHEEPFUKKER

If you play the tape backwards, he actually says he vows to double the deficit by the end of his first term.  

Fri, 08/03/2012 - 18:34 | 2677068 macholatte
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"I Am Pledging To Cut The Deficit We Inherited By Half By The End Of My First Term In Office"


Like ALL first class bullshitters & politicians and professional liers.....

                    there are zero consequences for failure.



Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
Winston Churchill


My great concern is not whether you have failed, but whether you are content with your failure.
Abraham Lincoln



There is no such thing as failure. There are only results.
Tony Robbins



The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better. I, therefore, intend to oppose the effort to increase America's debt.
Barack Obama



Fri, 08/03/2012 - 18:39 | 2677077 GeezerGeek
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Soaring deficits and debt were indicative of leadership failure under Bush. Obama, in his drive to fundamentally change America by making the 99.9% equally miserable and dependent, probably considers himself a success.

Fri, 08/03/2012 - 19:12 | 2677153 AldousHuxley
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Reagan FAIL.....more taxes and bullshit trickle down so let's give money to banksters policy; replaced Volcker with Greedspan; amnesty for illegal aliens

Bush Sr. FAIL.....didn't finish the job in Iraq

Clinton steagall repealed; NAFTA

Bush Jr. FAIL.....won the battle in Iraw, lost the war....gas prices are higher and SEC let thieves run the banks with your savings; TARP

Obama FAIL.....bailed out all of the banksters; put banksters in charge in critical moment to reform wall st.


Fri, 08/03/2012 - 19:25 | 2677185 Bay of Pigs
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Lets not forget LBJ, Nixon, and Carter. Plenty of credit to spread around.


Fri, 08/03/2012 - 21:10 | 2677331 engineertheeconomy
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Swallowing Cocksucker Obama didn't build that Hundred Trillion Dollars worth of wealth, he just stole it

Fri, 08/03/2012 - 19:34 | 2677196 mofreedom
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Why hate Reagnan?  Because you love Ron Paul?  Have you had relations with RossPerot?  What did you do with those ears of his?  I love freedom more than ANYONE else in the face of this earth!

Fri, 08/03/2012 - 19:42 | 2677204 EvryInternational
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Really? What have you done over the decades to improve your own freedom or the freedom of those around you?

Fri, 08/03/2012 - 19:50 | 2677220 AldousHuxley
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I have more respect for short ugly old man in politics than tall smooth talking types.

The latter will sell you lies, the former can only stay in power by being a good worker.


Ross Perot was right....foreign lobbysts outsourcing US jobs, nafta,


"Giant Sucking Sound" of jobs going out of US with deals that destroy america

Fri, 08/03/2012 - 21:44 | 2677374 FrankDrakman
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I have more respect for short ugly old man in politics than tall smooth talking types.

Like Bloomberg? After he's finished telling you how much sugar, salt, caffeine, and trans-fat you can ingest, what's he gonna do next?

Fri, 08/03/2012 - 21:56 | 2677401's picture

Obviously that was not what was meant.

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 05:16 | 2677635 AldousHuxley
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so you want that slime guiliani?

lawyer who divorced 3 times?

at least bloomberg (engineer wih MBA) built up his own business selling terminals used by most traders even ZH's screenshots....


what was guiliani's contribution?



Sat, 08/04/2012 - 07:40 | 2677699 Vic Vinegar
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what was guiliani's contribution?

Don't know and don't care.

What is more important - engineertheeconomy or Vic Vinegar?

I can at least appreciate the silliness in writing this comment - I don't think that the people paid to junk honesty on this site can appreciate much of anything.

But then again, that's why I'm going to rock Gaga videos until the break of dawn.  

Tyler - your lack of caring has set me free.  Reds be damned!

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 00:03 | 2677526 drunkenlout
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He's gonna gasp for breath beneath an NYC street light.


Sat, 08/04/2012 - 07:44 | 2677701 Vic Vinegar
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Now I'm most definitely going to vote for Barry.

But I'm just curious which internet tuff guy greened this.

 /sarc off - I really could care less who greened it.

I am still on this site because I care.  But this site is fast becoming a fuking joke.

And if you don't think that's the case, 

then listen to some Harper Valley PTA

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 08:55 | 2677765 GetZeeGold
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Now I'm most definitely going to vote for Barry.


If you really want to do that I'll make sure you get an armed Black Panther escort.



Fri, 08/03/2012 - 19:53 | 2677225 Moe Howard
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Sat, 08/04/2012 - 07:47 | 2677703 Vic Vinegar
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Just out of curiousity: how does it feel to put your fingers in the dike?  The fuking dike is exploiding in front of your face every day, and all you can say is "exactly".

/notes another person to cross of his inspirational list

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 15:03 | 2678339 Tanks-on-the-streets
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I really wouldn't call her a dike but it was nice putting my fingers in there...


Fri, 08/03/2012 - 20:26 | 2677262 mofreedom
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If the gub says "kill your horse" will you?  Every day is full of real examplrs that you can use with people you meet everyday to turn the absurd around on them.  Wherever I AM I piss my wife off with my diatribes basef on experience, facr and faith  When it's wrong you know it and you must speak up.  I have nothibg but a voice and I travel far abd wide!  Thank me!

Fri, 08/03/2012 - 22:24 | 2677435 sessinpo
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Freedome is relative. What one liberal thinks is individual freedom may be considered encroachment by the government by others. And what a conservative calls freedom might be called imposing ones position on others.

The nation is very divisive and often it is considered ideologically divisive. But I think both sides are being played against each other by manipulating the definition of freedom. Quite frankly, my fish in his little tank probably thinks he is free. I think I'll flush the sob down the toilet tomorrow.

Fri, 08/03/2012 - 23:43 | 2677509 engineertheeconomy
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Shut up with your "slavery is freedom" bullshit. Also you can shove it with your divide and conquer tactics. Fuck you, Troll

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 06:25 | 2677668 Vic Vinegar
Sat, 08/04/2012 - 08:59 | 2677772 GetZeeGold
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Shut up with your "slavery is freedom" bullshit.


It's not BS to me.....the first slave in America was a white guy owned by a black guy...go look it up.


How does that affect me? Well I'm I'm kinda hoping that never happens again!


Sat, 08/04/2012 - 00:38 | 2677547 Overfed
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Voting for the "electable" candidate = FAIL.

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 06:27 | 2677669 Vic Vinegar
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Sorry but you did not sway me from voting for Barry.  

Perhaps you ain't as smart as you think you are?

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 09:13 | 2677785 GetZeeGold
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Not only will I not stop you from downing that shot of Jack......I'm gonna give you the whole damn bottle.


Do whatever the hell you want to do.....this is America.


Fri, 08/03/2012 - 18:54 | 2677130 AldousHuxley
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If socialism is failure then why did Winston Churchill have a government job instead of striking on his own private enterprenuership?


Lincoln initially supported slavery in states where it already existed via Corwin Amendment in the constitution because he had no balls like Obama and played the bipartician compromise game to benefit his own political career. Later northern industrialists realized that free slaves would be cheaper for low wage factory jobs in midwest than unskilled whites or importing more slaves from africa, so they supported the emancipation.


Tony Robbins is a bullshit artist. what quantifiable results has brought to the listeners of his dribble? Did tech startup founders listen to this douchbag speak for new innovative ideas? Robbins is for Fortune 500 corporate drone types to get excited about TPS reports. results tell you that you failed or not.


Just like Lincoln, Obama has a choice to further his own career or help America turnaround from oligarchy at the risk of even a civil war. 99% are the slaves of the south. Labor debt slaves beholden to bankster masters. He is from priviledged upbringing, so he will never see non-elites as equal. However, he can free the people from financial terrorists controlling everything by money they print themselves.

Fri, 08/03/2012 - 19:27 | 2677190 delacroix
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but, tony told me those red hot coals couldn't burn me, if I just believed.

Fri, 08/03/2012 - 21:11 | 2677334 ZeroAvatar
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The agony of D'feet.

Fri, 08/03/2012 - 23:49 | 2677515 engineertheeconomy
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Comparing Obummer to Lincoln?

Now I've heard everything!

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 00:21 | 2677538 Alasdair
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Far be it for me to defend someone else's post, but I think he was comparing the situation/opportunity.

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 04:15 | 2677611 Lednbrass
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Both are ultra statist lunatics, why not? Obama is the natural and predictable result of Lincoln, and I find it amusing that the descendants of his armies are being ground to dust by the power of the very same hyperpowered central authority they fought for.

What we have now are the results of the dragons teeth sown in 1865.

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 06:35 | 2677675 Vic Vinegar
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 I find it amusing that

you don't understand while I am still here.  

Irony I guess

But hey - you are hung up on something Lincoln did.  Sure - ground to dust and all that shit.

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 06:43 | 2677677 Vic Vinegar
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Holy cow - people went to Chic-fil-A over the last few days?

Can we just call everyone who went there over the last few days a cock-gagger?  Surely whether they went there on the 1st or the 3rd tells us what I just said.

Ah, nevermind.

Whether you like cock or not - and whether you think the state should recognize your enjoyment of cock - you should admit that Chic-Fil-A sauce is pretty tasty.

Why you gotta make a scene about it?

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 06:54 | 2677679 Lednbrass
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I simply do not care why anyone is or is not a commenter here, it doesn't matter to me in the slightest. You are clearly bothered that ZH is not as you want it to be and keep making noise in front of the teacher

and saying "Pick me to be hall monitor!"

Whatever works for ya, but I don't see it happening. Personally, I think the whole "And now...Katy Perry!" thing is somewhat amusing.

As far as Lincoln goes it has nothing to do with a hangup and everything to do with understanding the sequence of events that lead to where we are now. I like to have an idea not only of what the world is, but also how it got that way and see him as the first major force in the march towards hyperpowered central government in US history.

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 07:20 | 2677692 Vic Vinegar
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Perhaps you and nmewn can share your thoughts on Obama.   And perhaps this is the site to share those thoughts on.

I'm starting to figure it out.  Like I say, it just takes one action from Tyler or Sac to kick someone out.

How will they judge?

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 11:23 | 2677953 nmewn
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Fortunately for you, I'm for the protection of speech in a public space. Unfortunately for you, ZH is private property.

It would be like you coming into my home drooling and sticking your finger in my face and being a general nuisance to my other wouldn't last very long, whether I invited you in or not.

If you fail to see this distinction I can understand why you voted for Obama ;-)

Fri, 08/03/2012 - 19:37 | 2677199 mofreedom
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Bitter often?  Bitter often?  Suck it up and beat them.  What do you want from the rest of us?

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 06:56 | 2677680 Vic Vinegar
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Personally I want more Katy Perry videos and a definitive answer from Tyler about whether he wants to keep me or engineertheeconomy.  

The answer is pretty simple in my mind, but I guess that some of these academics like to get off on how smart they are.

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 09:17 | 2677789 GetZeeGold
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Doctor...I'm not gay but I like Katy Perry. Is there something wrong with me?


Fri, 08/03/2012 - 19:09 | 2677144 kaa1016
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Why are people still surprised by this? This is what they do, politicians, lawyers, brokers, etc., anyone who sells a service for a living. What gets me is that the people who complain the most that they were lied to are the same people that fall for the same shit over and over again. The real problem is that the majority of the public is not saavy enough to call bullshit, the second it leaves someones mouth. ABC, Always Be Closing, it's the same shit...

Fri, 08/03/2012 - 20:13 | 2677248 AldousHuxley
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doesn't always have to be this way.


soldiers kill for living. wouldn't it be nice that they kill our enemies instead of our families?


politicians lie for living. wouldn't it be nice that they lie to foreign powers instead of to our faces and sell us into more debt slavery?

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 00:19 | 2677537 engineertheeconomy
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Cops shoot and arrest for a living. Wouldn't it be nice if they would protect us and shoot and arrest the Bankerpoliticians that  rob and enslave us?

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 02:17 | 2677576 Totentänzerlied
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Soldiers kill for living. Politicians lie for living.

Stop paying both and they will need to seek productive use of their labor.

"wouldn't it be nice that they lie to foreign powers"

If? No, they've been doing that since the Mesolithic, the result is plain for those who wish to see.

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 03:07 | 2677588 AnAnonymous
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This is what they do, politicians, lawyers, brokers, etc., anyone who sells a service for a living.


This is how 'Americanism' works indeed.

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 09:50 | 2677828 takinthehighway
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Look, if you guys are going to troll under one name, you need to pay attention to the terminology that was used by the guy on the previous shift.

The correct term is "US citizenism".

You're welcome.

Fri, 08/03/2012 - 19:50 | 2677221 NidStyles
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Something tells me that you could have found someone better to quote than Churchill and Lincoln. 

Fri, 08/03/2012 - 21:44 | 2677376 roadsnbridges
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I pity you poor fools that fell for this charlatan, when his Marxist history was freely available to all that didn't watch the MSM. 

Fri, 08/03/2012 - 23:01 | 2677486 nmewn
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Thank you.

He started out living the Dream of his Father, a socialist/communist.

He has, over time, transformed himself through the crucible of black nationalist theology (I defy anyone to dispute it, in fact call me a racist for saying it, its true) into the belle of fascist ball that all marxists try so hard to resist...but fantasize about daily (you marxists know this to be true of yourselves, if only you could control the means of

You can't, no more than you can control the narcissistic "marxist" you thought you were voting for. At what point after him hooking up with Rezko did you throw your "dreams" away is what I wanna know.

Or was it long before that?

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 07:03 | 2677683 Vic Vinegar
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Holy cow.  Talk about shaking foundations.  I totally switched from Skittles to M&M's based on your comment.

Thanks nmewn!

/sarc off you dumbfuck

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 07:53 | 2677707 nmewn
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Wash your M&M's down with some more KoolAid served up by James Cone & Rev Wright.

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 08:40 | 2677745 Fred C Dobbs
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I am not positive but I think all major candy companies have GMO sugar beets in thier products.  



Sat, 08/04/2012 - 08:18 | 2677684 Disenchanted
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I find Oblahma's white side of the family far more interesting. Let's see...Obama's Mama (Stanley Ann Dunham) spent quite a bit of time working for the Ford Foundation(known CIA front) in Indonesia with her direct supervisor being current SEC Treasury Timmah's daddy...Hmmm.


What did a real socialist/marxist have to say about Obama back in 2009:


Barack Obama is a corporate marketing creation ~ John Pilger


Author, journalist, film maker John Pilger speaks at Socialism 2009 

Filmed by Paul Hubbard at the Womens Building in San Francisco 7-4-09.

(33 minutes)


The condensed version: 

John Pilger - Obama Is A Corporate Marketing Creation

(6 minutes)

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 08:28 | 2677724 New_Meat
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That's only half-racist. - Ned

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 08:54 | 2677764 nmewn
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lol...against the white half?

Sun, 08/05/2012 - 08:25 | 2679212 GetZeeGold
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Well....that's just how white folks will do you.



Sun, 08/05/2012 - 09:42 | 2679282 nmewn
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lol...only "white people" can be raaayciiisss...haven't you heard?

"Attorney General Eric Holder finally got fed up Tuesday with claims that the Justice Department went easy in a voting rights case against members of the New Black Panther Party because they are African American.

Holder's frustration over the criticism became evident during a House Appropriations subcommittee hearing as Rep. John Culberson (R-Texas) accused the Justice Department of failing to cooperate with a Civil Rights Commission investigation into the handling of the 2008 incident in which Black Panthers in intimidating outfits and wielding a club stood outside a polling place in Philadelphia.

The Attorney General seemed to take personal offense at a comment Culberson read in which former Democratic activist Bartle Bull called the incident the most serious act of voter intimidation he had witnessed in his career.

"Think about that," Holder said. "When you compare what people endured in the South in the 60s to try to get the right to vote for African Americans, and to compare what people were subjected to there to what happened in Philadelphia—which was inappropriate, certainly that…to describe it in those terms I think does a great disservice to people who put their lives on the line, who risked all, for my people," said Holder, who is black.

Holder noted that his late sister-in-law, Vivian Malone Jones, helped integrate the University of Alabama.

"To compare that kind of courage, that kind of action, and to say that the Black Panther incident wrong thought it might be somehow is greater in magnitude or is of greater concern to us, historically, I think just flies in the face of history and the facts.," Holder said with evident exasperation."

Now, what that has to do with whether or not voter intimidation happened in Philadelphia is anyones guess. But apparently, law is now only applied when the skin pigment is clearly seen and is of the correct shade.

J Christian Adams has been all over this one and resigned in disgust when Holder refused to prosecute...and now we have this little noticed court 13...

"The Court finds that the foregoing emails added, at least to some degree, "‘to the fund of information that citizens may use in making vital political choices.’" Cotton, 63 F.3d at 1120 (citation omitted). The documents reveal that political appointees within DOJ were conferring about the status and resolution of the New Black Panther Party case in the days preceding the DOJ’s dismissal of claims in that case, which would appear to contradict Assistant Attorney General Perez’s testimony that political leadership was not involved in that decision." 

Wait...wut?...what did this court just say?

Thats right, it appears Assistant Attorney General Perez lied under oath.

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 08:52 | 2677761 nmewn
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Modern politics and politicians are by its nature "corporate marketing" in that sense I would have to agree with Pilger. 

But its not the same as calling O'Barry a free market capitalist or a corporatist, which he is decidely not.

One doesn't have to drill too far down to find evidence of this. He has always believed in the power of the state over and at the expense of, the individual or anything. Its why he went into politics in the first place. You should dig up his concept of "negative liberty" for review and its implications for a free republic operating under the rule of law.

They are incompatible and contradictory with any "free society".

His latest "You didn't build that" is how he really feels about capitalists and free will...which is, at the personal level, nothing more than exercising ones right to fail or succeed on their own merits. How anyone could defend the intelligence level or good intentions of government bureacracies after what has transpired is either stupid or being openly deceitful.

The real tragedy of the un-vetted "brand" of O'Barry (which is what I think Pilger meant) is how so many could have been fooled by this farcical character of a man.

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 09:22 | 2677790 Disenchanted
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I guess we're all either 'conservative' fascists or 'liberal' fascists now.


""brand" of O'Barry (which is what I think Pilger meant) is how so many could have been fooled by this farcical character of a man."


I agree.


BUT this would also apply equally:


""brand" of Bush II ... is how so many could have been fooled by this farcical character of a man."


You can plug any President's name in there, going back at least a century if not longer.


The bottom line that the US Govt has not been serving the real interests of it's people for a long time now. Which political party/ideology was/is in charge is meaningless noise. The real job is to identify the true perps that hijacked our Govt and deal with them. This does not absolve the people though, we all played our parts in allowing/ignoring/and in many cases condoning the hijacking of our Govt..


IMO the main vehicle of that hijacking was the wresting of this nation's 'money.' I also think that goes back further than 1913.

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 11:08 | 2677924 nmewn
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""brand" of Bush II ... is how so many could have been fooled by this farcical character of a man."

Agreed...I've long held the view that Bush came in a social conservative and left as a conservative

"You can plug any President's name in there, going back at least a century if not longer."

Nefarious dickweeds will always attack freedom wherever it springs up. Some of them do it for personal gain, some are genuinely ignorant of what they are doing.

"The real job is to identify the true perps that hijacked our Govt and deal with them. This does not absolve the people though, we all played our parts in allowing/ignoring/and in many cases condoning the hijacking of our Govt.

IMO the main vehicle of that hijacking was the wresting of this nation's 'money.' I also think that goes back further than 1913."

No truer statement has ever been uttered. The vehicle that allows for war & welfare is the Fed here.

It is a creation of government...for government.

It provides (theoretically) the means for politicians to go unaccountable for their reckless spending of the peoples treasure/taxes. This is of great benefit to politicians as they can promise the moon & stars above to anyone, securing their power through "democracy".

For the banker, it provides a steady stream of income with the only real loss being one of integrity & prestige, something they never really had among the people

The accounting works until it is realized broadly that sheer numbers alone don't reflect the quality of the underlying.

We still retain the power to put a stop to it at anytime. There has never been any law created across the expanse of history that has more weight than the will of the people and never will be. Its just going to take enough people to look at themselves in the mirror first and say I refuse to be ruled by my inferiors and then stop accepting their bribes.

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 13:42 | 2678217 Disenchanted
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I liked that...+1


So can we also agree that merely electing the other 'side,' in this case the (R) party as represented by Mitt, because he's less bad than the Obamster, will never solve the true underlying problems?


Because this is what the status quo wants, keep sticking with the same old ways. While pretending each time we'll get a different result.

You know what that defines.


In any case the Executive branch of US Govt has usurped too much power over a long time period. I'm fairly certain the 'money powers' had a hand in that as well.

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 18:59 | 2678645 nmewn
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Well, for the first half of my life I was the other

Things changed for me when "my side" came after my guns while attempting to confiscate more & more of my time and property under the guise of the D & R thing doesn't hold a particular bond on me.

It just so happens today I am registered as an R but many R's are also old D's and new T's ;-)

What I believe is happening is the Tea Party is taking over the GOP just as academics, media and "progressives" in general have taken over the old Democrat Party.

A blue blooded former NE govenor was not my first choice (in the primary I voted Paul) but he (Romney) is still more qualified than O'Barry was just by virtue of being a govenor, no matter where. If I thought an L (Johnson) had a legitimate shot at the presidency I would be promoting him but the problem there is stripping away potential votes from my view the danger is greater with a second O'Barry term.

He has proven he has NO respect for any law but his own.

He's now acting as a despot...examples include...illegal immigration, GM bond holders, pills for frat girls, relaxing welfare work requirements, Gibson guitar goonery and his latest...asking defense contractors to violate the WARN Act to postpone them getting layoff notices before the election...just to name a few.

After this turd is out we can talk about new parties or new politics...all that matters for the country now is getting him out...nothing else.

Sun, 08/05/2012 - 06:15 | 2679158 Disenchanted
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All I can say is good luck with that Romney dream.

If he is elected the failed status quo will continue...until it doesn't.

"President Romney" - Meet the new boss...

Sun, 08/05/2012 - 09:02 | 2679242 nmewn
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That very well may be...but perhaps America is entitled to a better class of liar? One not nearly as "transparent" in his

I I said, I voted Paul, he didn't make it through. I'm not going to cry about it, pick up my ball & go home.

You haven't said who or what you support?...given the reality of the situation.

I'll leave you with this though, O'Barry has openly attacked the other two institutions (both equal, co-branches) of government on more than one occasion.

Congress (meaning only the House, somehow, in his mind) I can deal with, its political, so no harm no foul...but not SCOTUS deliberations & decisions, whether I agree with those decisions/outcomes or not.

Its sorta like jury tampering...its a felony for sheeple to do it.

He's already made his intentions clear for those with an open mind...he desires to RULE not govern...that is a HUGE DIFFERENCE and it speaks directly to his conceit, arrogance and manipulative character. Even when confronted with the truth of his failures as a president and a man he grasps for scapegoats & strawmen...instead of sucking it up and trying something different.

I have been virulently ABO ever since his bitter clinger comment (another window into his soul)...and I remain so.


Sat, 08/04/2012 - 10:53 | 2677903 New_Meat
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nmewn: Here's Obama's WBEZ interview. Charter of negative liberties.

So many fooled?  Hillary said it best: "willing suspension of disbelief."

- Ned

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 11:44 | 2677993 nmewn
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Thanks is remarkable and damning evidence of how he thinks & what he believes.

I just want everyone to think about what our "constitutional law professor president" is saying here...

The people, in the act of instituting a system of laws, in how we will interact with each other and this new government going forward from that point in time...>>>by placing constraints on the power and scope of a federal government<<< equal to an infringement on that governments liberty.

Its the most bizzare thing he's ever said up until "You didn't build that!" The inner workings of the mind of a statist.

And this tape was well known outside of the sphere of the state controlled media complex.

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 12:18 | 2678051 New_Meat
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Tape well known, yes.  But not too many hits.  I wonder if the 'toobiez will go all Winston Smith on this? - Ned

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 19:07 | 2678655 nmewn
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Ah yes, the Minister of Truthiness...anythings possible with these people.

Keep your guard up, your powder dry and an extra hard drive ;-)

Fri, 08/03/2012 - 19:11 | 2677151 surf0766
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IMO the object was to triple the deficit, crush capitalism, install communism.

Fri, 08/03/2012 - 20:38 | 2677280 AldousHuxley
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capitalism isn't all nice...


Program was designed to identify and "neutralize" (via infiltration, capture, terrorism, torture, and assassination) the civilian infrastructure supporting the National Liberation Front of South Vietnam (NLF or Viet Cong) insurgency.


Common methods of torture used at the interrogation centers included:

"Rape, gang rape, rape using eels, snakes, or hard objects, and rape followed by murder; electric shock ('the Bell Telephone Hour') rendered by attaching wires to the genitals or other sensitive parts of the body, like the tongue; the 'water treatment'; the 'airplane' in which the prisoner's arms were tied behind the back, and the rope looped over a hook on the ceiling, suspending the prisoner in midair, after which he or she was beaten; beatings with rubber hoses and whips; the use of police dogs to maul prisoners."

Fri, 08/03/2012 - 22:32 | 2677450 sessinpo
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"capitalism isn't all nice.."

And who said was suppose to be? Neither is socialism or communism.

How about another quote for you. "Life isn't fair"


And by the way, just to show you I'm not necessarily for republicans, check out Rex 84, written by Oliver North. You probably already know about it. Both sides can be so disgusting.

Sat, 08/04/2012 - 00:26 | 2677542 engineertheeconomy
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Fri, 08/03/2012 - 23:18 | 2677493 surf0766
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You use wiki... What is this high school?


I know it isn't all nice. But I like being warm in the winter, Eating good food and wearing decent clothes. I like the healthcare system. It isn't perfect but neither am I.



Sat, 08/04/2012 - 02:24 | 2677578 Totentänzerlied
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Strawman. Capitalism has precisely nothing to do with the Viet Cong or the imperial American military. There are far better strawmen to hoist if you wish to slander capitalism than the punishment dealt to a liberation front/terrorist organization involved in a proxy war between two state-capitalist superpowers pushing their nearly identical visions of political economy.

Fri, 08/03/2012 - 21:54 | 2677398's picture


If you play the tape backwards, he actually says he vows to double the deficit by the end of his first term. 


Thank you, Satan.

Fri, 08/03/2012 - 18:14 | 2677004 ljag
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She may hate fat people but her ass is just as big as Oprah's..........if not bigger

Fri, 08/03/2012 - 18:26 | 2677043 Stormdancer
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rofl!  I was thinking "This is coming from Michelle "Thunderthighs" Obama??

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