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Frontrunning The Frontrunning Of The "European Close"

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Fri, 09/09/2011 - 10:54 | 1650753 Cognitive Dissonance
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If the HFT algos play with each other is that considered incest?

Just askin' cuse.....well, enquiring minds wanna know.

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 10:58 | 1650769 fuu
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Would you forgive them if it was? =)

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 11:13 | 1650833 Cognitive Dissonance
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Only if they included me in on the menage a trios.

Ouch, watch those sharp elbows for crying out loud.


Fri, 09/09/2011 - 11:22 | 1650872 fuu
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Sparks fly in the dead of the night
It all comes together
When they shoot out the lights
50,000 watts of power
And it's pushin' overload
The beast is ready to devour
All the metal they can hold
Reachin' overload
Start to explode

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 15:58 | 1652237 Bolweevil
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Ronnie Montrose! Woot!!


ride on thebenbernank

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 11:01 | 1650783 alien-IQ
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I believe Philip K. Dick addressed this issue several times.

Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 11:23 | 1650876 Cognitive Dissonance
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Yes. I believe he has. And yet the question ultimately remains unanswered.

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 11:31 | 1650922 alien-IQ
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Where the hell is Stanley Kubrick when you need him:-(

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 11:03 | 1650787 Cassandra Syndrome
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Euuuugggghhhh, yuck. 2 Skynet Cyborgs hard at it? It aint 9 and a half weeks, lets put it like that...

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 10:54 | 1650755 Debtless
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The crooked levitation machine is unstoppable.

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 11:51 | 1650756 HelluvaEngineer
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Fri, 09/09/2011 - 10:57 | 1650765 Irish66
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Art needs a stiff one

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 10:58 | 1650770 Tsar Pointless
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Green day, Amerikkkan idiots!

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 10:59 | 1650773 vast-dom
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Vote Biyatchez!

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 11:00 | 1650778 DefiantSurf
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you left out market levitates on PPT

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 11:02 | 1650784 vast-dom
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you mean OPP?

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 11:04 | 1650794 DefiantSurf
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Fri, 09/09/2011 - 11:06 | 1650801 Tsar Pointless
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Yeah, you know me!

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 11:07 | 1650810 DefiantSurf
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I think OPP still falls under hopium

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 11:08 | 1650812 SeverinSlade
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Just look at a chart for the S&P since August 8th.  We've been essentially trading sideways in a range between 1101 and 1230.  The only way that the market really tanks is if things spiral out of control in Europe.  Poor economic indicators mean nothing in this market. 

Potential catalysts for a plunge in equities are IMO:

Greek default
EFSF vote fail (Sept. 29th after the two day FOMC meeting)
BAC doing a Lehman impression

Will any of these happen?  Who knows.  Only way I'm playing equities is buying SPXU, SQQQ, and SDOW real market strength (S&P near 1200).  Beyond that, gold and silver are the only things to be buying these days.

We all know that the markets WILL tank at some point.  The question is when.

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 10:58 | 1650774 alien-IQ
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I was just thinking this very thing as I watch the /ES slither up 10 points since the open.

I can't imagine anyone wanting to go into this weekend with a long position. That's just begging for abuse.

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 11:07 | 1650809 Belarus
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...but keep in mind logic doesn't work short term in this market. In fact, the obvious trade is almost always going to be the losing trade. Go opposite of any convictions. For e.g., after Obama's speech one would have logically concluded Gold and Silver would have had a montrous day today.

Think about what Obama is proposing: $457 billion in new stimulus money via robbing from Social Security and Medicare and raising taxes on the rich to be paid for, or in Obama's word "this plan will be paid for." Think about that: how can this plan be paid for when we already have $1.5 trillion in unpaid for bills a year? And let's pretend like children for a moment the Tea Party and Boehner folks agree to everything in Obama's proposal: then doesn't this severely step on the Super Committee's toes?

Of course, what this would mean is the Super Committee is a joke and both party's know it. In fact, Obama's plan makes a mockery out of the Super Committee and our budget deficts. Therefore, Gold and Silver you would have assumed would be 5% today....

But oh no....the despots were ready for that. The calls already made into the CME, etc. For now, at least hint at an immenent margin hike--that'll cool things off. 

The non-stop intervention and manipulation of perceptions is almost impossible to trade. The only answer: take all money out of the market. Take all money sands working capital out of the banks. Buy PM's, Guns, Ammo, Food, and water. In fact, those are the only bargains left in this market except for ammo costs. 

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 11:12 | 1650823 SeverinSlade
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"...but keep in mind logic doesn't work short term in this market."

That says it all. 

QE1 and QE2 were both monumental failures...Yet QE3 WILL WORK!

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 11:18 | 1650853 alien-IQ
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the only logic I apply to this fucked up market is:

1) Try to close every day FLAT.

2) Try to bee done by 11am

3) Never ever ever hold anything over a weekend.

So far so good.

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 10:59 | 1650776 Belarus
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With Europe's banks gettting mauled, I would suggest dangerous days are ahead for the market. 

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 11:00 | 1650779 TradingJoe
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At this point we are all just guesstimating because algos can't be "analized" :))) my humble take: we sell off today, too much headline risk out of Europe over the weekend, next week will be a bit more interesting but the "big one" won't happen ahead of the FEDsters the coming 21st! Bancheros still klinging to the (vain) hope they'll get "something" this month!

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 11:03 | 1650789 HedgeAccordingly
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you gotta love a good front run.. the speech went over well.. good work Barry..

some friday action 



Fri, 09/09/2011 - 11:03 | 1650790 monopoly
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Have 0 interest in any broken market stock rally today. None.!

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 11:05 | 1650796 DefiantSurf
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it will melt up with or without you friend

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 11:07 | 1650793 Josh Randall
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Are you trying to say someboy's Mother is involved in this ?


Fri, 09/09/2011 - 11:07 | 1650804 Mactheknife
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Not today...too much weekend risk.

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 11:12 | 1650827 espirit
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Probably not a good idea to stay long the US Indices through the weekend, even though it's been buy the rumors-sell the news lately.

Dollah cost averaging in PM's is the proper long in this global shenanigan excuse for a market.

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 11:11 | 1650822 NotApplicable
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The singularity is near!

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 11:19 | 1650858 catladdy
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-11:15am: ES unable to get a close above 1167.5 dec, trying to find a support/catapult from this mornings low. 

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 13:10 | 1650901 buzzsaw99
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be like buffett and pick yourself out a nice tranny.

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 11:28 | 1650908 catladdy
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-ES dec: OOPS, new low at 1154.

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 11:36 | 1650941 catladdy
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SPX bears are lookin' for Tuesday's low at 1140.

Bulls will be happy with a cash close around 1173.

I haven't a clue where it'll close

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 11:44 | 1650990 adr
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Look at the earnings news. Frickin Lulu claims their profit soared 75% and the stock is down 7%. Normally singular earnings would have an effect on a real stock but since Lulu and the rest of the momentum stocks are nothing but hedge fund tools they move as the overall market moves. They are just bought and sold in large baskets and real sales and earnings, which are nowhere near the sizzling books, mean nothing at all.

I may be wrong but I never remembered a time where there were this many overvalued stocks at one time. I don't think the dotcom era had examples of stocks this pumped with the kind of macro economic indicators we've got going. Seriously a fucking soda company like Hans trading at $90 that doubles in six months. Same with the other fucking soda company whose home machines are now on clearance at every retailer. After this holiday I don;t think you'll see another Sodastream system anywhere save a few discount retailers. The stock gets chopped in half and people still buy it. The stock is still $40 with a 42 P/E and it is over for the company at retail in the USA.

The market doesn't reflect reality because every single major player doesn't have a clue what reality is. They don't live in the real world and never venture into it. If you took a major Wall Street exec to a shopping mall the middle of Indiana, he wouldn't know where the fuck he was. He would notice the three people that walk into a store of his favorite momo stock and ask where all the customers are.

CEOs and stock traders only know cooked books and bullshit press conferences because that is the way they live their lives. Do you think any CEO of a major corporation has actually filed an honest income tax report in their life? Do you think the accounting of any major corporation is honest? But how would the Wall Street set know any different, that is how they live thier life, as a total fraud. To them fraud is reality.

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 11:52 | 1651044 catladdy
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ES OOPS: ALGO longs were trick f**ked

Da Bears are looking to take out 1130 ES dec

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 11:55 | 1651059 catladdy
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Feelin good Billie Rae

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 13:32 | 1651553 bugs_
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