FT Deutschland On The Upcoming Austrian AAA-Rating Downgrade

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Thu, 11/10/2011 - 10:55 | 1865841 GeneMarchbanks
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Warm-up for the France downgrade no doubt. Vienna is not so far from Paris if you're traveling from the States, just FYI for you S&P analcysts.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 11:26 | 1865983 Harlequin001
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And now we discover why Europe and the US in particular was so keen to introduce all this 'Know Your Client' regulation into the offshore investment business.

Personally I'm always tripping over these terrorists trying to launder US200 per month in an offshore savings plan.

Good job we gave up all those rights wasn't it?

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 10:52 | 1865843 Mongo
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Doing the debt waltz...

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 12:34 | 1866301 Andrew G
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Blimey, Gerry-speaking Pigs!?

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 11:25 | 1865847 speconomist
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nvm.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 10:54 | 1865854 AngryGerman
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Der Führer wird nicht glücklich sein!

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 11:27 | 1866000 Harlequin001
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Achtung Spitfire!

Now what was that again?

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 10:54 | 1865858 Peter K
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France/Germany 10yr 161bp.... and rising. You go girl:)

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 11:03 | 1865860 PaperBear
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Watch Keiser Report: Gold Wars

http://sgtreport.com/2011/11/keiser-report-gold-wars/

“The ECB can print euros, the Federal Reserve can print dollars and the IMF can print these Special Drawing Rights.”

“The first ever financial war game conducted by the Pentagon… no one knew how to use stocks, bonds and DERIVATIVES to fight a war.”

“The insiders can protect themselves, the people who lose are average citizens, people saving in a bank account, people with retirement savings, annuities, insurance policies, anything that is denominated in nominal dollars that is not going to go up with inflation, they’re the victims. This is sort of organised theft, taking money from average and giving it to the elites who know how the game is played. So that is why they like paper money.”

“People say there’s not enough gold to support world trade. There’s always enough gold, it’s just a question of price” – the price in some fake paper instrument.

“In 1925 if they had said $50/oz instead of $20/oz, that might have been mildly inflationary and we might have avoided the Great Depression.”

EVERYONE NEEDS TO LISTEN AND UNDERSTAND WHAT JAMES RICKARDS IS SAYING BECAUSE HE IS MAKING ABSOLUTE SENSE.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 10:55 | 1865867 RobotTrader
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One shocking headline after another

Just feeding the bears

Meanwhile, the SPY is still above the 21-day EMA

http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/kaavio.Webhost/charts/big.chart?nosetti...

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 11:30 | 1866006 Harlequin001
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Phew, that was lucky...

Acrtually Robo I could use some good advice right now; I have this shit load of money currently tied up in gold bullion that I'd really like to strap to a depth charge. What do you recommend?

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 10:57 | 1865876 DaBernank
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Schnitzel is the un-official currency anyway, we'll be happy to return to it!

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 10:59 | 1865888 Dr. Nancy
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Thu, 11/10/2011 - 11:32 | 1866031 Harlequin001
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yes but does it pay us the same fee as well?

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 11:34 | 1866035 Harlequin001
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That'll be a surprise attack then...

Honestly, this is like something straight out of 'Blackadder Goes Forth"...

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 11:04 | 1865893 Little Red Rooter
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Goulash crash, bitchez!

Store your hops and barley dry!

 

 

 

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 11:00 | 1865895 lolmao500
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Downgrade of America at the end of November.

Downgrade of Austria at the end of December.

Downgrade of France before the April presidential election.

Win win win!

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 11:02 | 1865908 Quokka
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What's happening in the Netherlands these days? They never seem to get a mention. Maybe they're too stoned to worry about anything.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 11:50 | 1866108 Silvarouvres
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In the Netherlands there has been a remarkably underreported development, even in the country itself to some extent, that centered around the previous central bank president (and member of the Trilateral Commission, former chairman of BIS) Nout Wellink. He was clearly snubbed for another term at the helm by the government which was helped by Wellink's arrogant behaviour that triggered quite some resistance to him with the general public (he denied any wrongdoing or errors of judgment in the Icesave/Landsbanki affair, the ABN-Amro takeover and the demise of DSB bank). The Dutch National Bank proposed another candidate when it was clear that the battle for Wellink was lost, only to be snubbed again by the government who pushed their candidate through, a relatively young and unexperienced guy from the Finance department.

It seems that since then the Netherlands isn't as close to Germany as it has been since WW2 when it comes to monetary policy (dutch guilder was pegged to deutschmark long before all EU-currencies were pegged to one another). Don't get me wrong, NL is still closer to DE than to FR or anything south of Brussels but the media and elites is advocating 'stepping up to the plate' quite vocal: the EU must be saved by the rich countries footing the bill, because the alternative is unthinkable (echoes of the TPTB campaign during the referendum on the EU constitution come to mind). In other words, I doubt whether NL will stand by Germany if the pressure keeps rising like e.g. strongly suggested by Ambrose Evans-Pritchard : "US and China must crush Germany into submission" http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/ambroseevans-pritchard/100013198/am...

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 11:03 | 1865916 A Man without Q...
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There is no requirement that a sovereign is AAA to fund the EFSF, but rather for the fund to be AAA a certain proportion of backers are triple A.  If one is downgraded, the result is either the other AAAs increase their share, or the fund has a lower rating.  

This is a key reason for a reluctance of investors to step forward, it's a first to default risk across the Eurozone...

 

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 11:17 | 1865946 Mercury
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It appears that AAA rating, which means Austria is still eligible to fund the EFSF,...

Makes you wonder if it isn't worth it for a country like Austria to engineer a downgrade to 'AA' for itself just to avoid the EFSF bullshit.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 11:36 | 1866046 Harlequin001
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All debts are joint and several old stick, they're still on the hook whichever way you look at it...

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 11:17 | 1865955 Aunty Christ
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Austria's contribution is a rounding error. Belgium will be next to get downgraded, then on to France

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 11:50 | 1866094 Silvarouvres
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wrong place

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