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G-Bye G-Pap
Former Greek PM, and career politician, George Papandreou, is effectively retiring. Per Reuters: "Greece's former prime minister George Papandreou told his PASOK socialist party on Wednesday that he will step down as party leader and not seek re-election, a socialist deputy told Reuters. "He told us that he will resign as PASOK leader and that he will not run for prime minister again," said the deputy who attended a party meeting on the leadership succession. Papandreou stepped down as prime minister in November last year to make way for a coalition government to help Greece exit its biggest financial crisis in decades." Nothing like scurrying away in the last lifeboat just as your country is caught in the 21st century equivalent of the 22nd Catch, where your tax collectors, so critical for procuring the much needed tax revenue (sorry Greece, only America can "print" its revenues) are on what seems to be perpetual strike.
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G-Good G-Fuckin Riddens ...
...to the biggest asshole in EU history.
I sincerely hope he rots, first for selling his country to the Squid and then for trying to save his sorry political ass by waving a last-minute-not-ever-seriously-meant referendum...
Never has a leader been more let down by his population. He did everything he could to get them into the euro even though they didn't deserve it - and what thanks does he get? Riots, tax dodging, ever increasing demands! I say G-Pap would be welcome in the US or UK; a man who could get the ball rolling again. Better yet I hope his efforts are recognised when the inevitable happens and a firmer , more centralised and soildified, european government takes over the whole mess out of the hands of the greedy capitalists, I hope G-Pap's efforts are not forgotten...the population of greece will be excluded, to their own loss, but europe may gain their greatest statsman as a potential leader!
Amen!
you have some real insight into the process - it takes a great mind (and out of the box thinking) to recognize it ....
europe and the world will be a better place under a more unified approach! G-Pap can surely contribute to that...and perhaps greeks after all will be able to understand that contrary to popular wisdom there such gifts meant to be just that...gifts!
All sing now: F U Papandreou
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x43dCWkDWFU
Yes. G-Pap is a real hero and has massive deposits abroad in various bank accounts. He was openly accused of corruption and bribery in the Greek Parliament - with details. He never responded to the accusations. I suspect that one the the Greeks will make him pay the price for his treachery - an American stooge if there ever was one.
That referendum would have been a great move actually - would have forced the Greeks to think about their choices rather than throwing all their toys out of the pram.
If you want to stay in the Euro - here is the price.
If you want to leave the Euro and go back to the drachma - here is the price.
Sometimes the choice is between being shoulder deep in shit and neck deep in shit - so start thinking about what you really want instead of whining all the time.
G-Pap, another crook on the run.
Greezy Pap Smear.
Agreed
Probably has a 7-figure or higher Goldman Sachs Advisory gig waiting for him.
Run GPap RUN!!!!
Yo, Che Bebe!.....you of all ZH commentators[bein Canukistani!] shud be willin to shed a special tear for the fore-mentioned, be-pensioned, offspring of the illustrious Andreas:
much as I hate to quote jimmywales' sio-pedia, the gems therein are too choice to give up: to whit....
Andreas, of course, occupied a special position at the heart of the NWO's bastion of political correctness, York University....Toronto On....that rotten apple of functional dysfunction from whence the whole barrel went sour!!!!
York University ain't the bastion of political correctness. Try Berkeley buddy.
And yeah, what do we care about G-Pap or A-Pap up here? We'd like more smart, productive Greeks to migrate here.
best thing about this whole crisis - Canada gets smart Irish, Greek and Portuguese professionals. Soon to be joined by smart Spanish and Italian professionals. And who said crises were bad?
Umm, what you'd like and what you'll get in your dreams of diversity are likely to be entirely separate things. Buddy.
As for York U....Trent U, Ottawa U, Simon F, and the whole nexus of Marxist-tenured B grade institutions which bred the current generation of insufferably smug, tight-assed and myopic realestate bubblistas who make up your 'we' - well, lets's just say that Berkeley expanded north some time around the draft kickin in - then we can both be correct!
I do agree with your point on "insufferably smug, tight-assed and myopic realestate bubblistas", which I'm not part of, because I refuse to get involved in the stupidity engulfing Canadian property markets. You and I agree there my friend. And to think - people in Australia and Canada could have learnt from watching the US, Spain and Ireland self-destruct, but no, they're running over the cliff like lemmings.
As for the rest of your post:
"Umm, what you'd like and what you'll get in your dreams of diversity are likely to be entirely separate things. Buddy."
Where does "diversity" come into it? It's a lot easier to migrate legally to Canada than the US, and we're seeking qualified professionals. My dream is smart professionals and rich entrepreneurs helping this country grow, doesn't matter if they're green with little pink dots. I never bought into the diversity argument, always believed in the meritocracy argument.
"As for York U....Trent U, Ottawa U, Simon F, and the whole nexus of Marxist-tenured B grade institutions which bred the current generation of insufferably smug, tight-assed and myopic realestate bubblistas who make up your 'we' - well, lets's just say that Berkeley expanded north some time around the draft kickin in - then we can both be correct!"
Riiiight - like US campuses are not Marxist-tenured B-grade institutions filled with pipe-smoking professors.
To the best of my knowledge, pipe-smoking has sadly gone the way of civility of manner, and articulate argument....However, not having spent any time at all near any tenured Marxists for the last couple o decades, I may have missed a trend or two in that milieu.
No reason at all to suppose I am in any way defending pot or kettle it's all one big happy dysfunctional family! Go TeamCANUSA\USACAN....
As for diversity, sorry I didn't mean to throw in a red herring, I just decided against making a smart alec remark about immigration quotas stacking up hard against "Greek professionals" etc, versus Somali taxistas and CCP functionaries with large investment capital courtesy of their corrupt gleanings from the system. Didn't want to offend any Thought-Crime Board of so&so in the event that Harper has secretly signed on for extraordinary rendition of his own serfs as well as the rest of the secret betrayals of liberty!
"As for diversity, sorry I didn't mean to throw in a red herring, I just decided against making a smart alec remark about immigration quotas stacking up hard against "Greek professionals" etc, versus Somali taxistas and CCP functionaries with large investment capital courtesy of their corrupt gleanings from the system."
Dude, Harper's a somewhat Reaganite Conservative i.e. loves big money, pro-oil, low tax, that kind of thing. He doesn't want the Somali taxistas because they're likely to vote for the other side. However the "CCP functionaries with large investment capital courtesy of their corrupt gleanings from the system" - Harper likey! To be honest, me too likey - if they plough back their money earnt from North American consumers back into North America, then it's good for us. However I'd prefer if they ploughed into something other than real-estate of course.
One way would be to create a new class of migrants - lend Canada a large sum of money (around 5 million) at 0% for 5 years and we give you permanent residency. No faffing around wondering whether or not you're an entrepreneur and all that BS. Saves us from having to go to the bond markets to raise capital. Suddenly all those Greeks who earn less than 50,000 EUR but mysteriously have a Porsche start lining up at Canada's door...
I feel so bad for Greece. Things are really falling apart.
I don't. Socialism has a horrible track record. Maybe one day people will figure that out.
You're blinded by ideology. They got dragged into consumerism by the richer countries that sold them their stuff on credit, and their economy could not afford it. And the rich countries with "conservative governments" also could not afford what they spent. Only difference is the powerful countries can print money and through the banks can exploit the smaller countries, demanding repayment. The loan-sharking model of economics: your mafia loan shark is no more financially responsible than you are. Only he's bigger
and we were lucky, George W. Bush was already promising Turkey a place in the EU and in the EuroZone
now don't get me wrong, I love Turkey and I'd exchange it for Greece anytime, but hey, do they love to overspend and inflate
Yup.
Let's not forget one of the world's most socialist nations: Germany. Totally different picture.
look, I have a very easy way to quantify socialism:
percentage of personal transfers & social expense in the budget
+ percentage of budget deficit = percentage of socialism
Germany: 8 wks paid vac per year, health and education full covered, pension, paternity leave...cradle to grave, baby
Germany: one third of the boards given to representatives of the workers, Agenda 2010 (which was a compact to keep wages down), etc. etc. and you know what? It worked - industry stayed in Germany instead of being shipped to China.
I abhor socialism per se, but you have to give the Germans the kudos of being much more efficient with it than others.
If you think about it, it all boils down to the fact that a dosis of socialism in a small, compact and homogenous group is quite natural.
Socialism works quite well for ants, bees and termites -- Humans, not so much. Ants, bees and termites are virtually clones of one another -- Humans, not even close.
Wow! In the Germany I live we have 24 days!
capitalism ascending
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-E0zWznXY0
The thing is that what everyone thinks of as "deserves" is just a concept. That's all. Just an idea. People have their pensions and their retirement, they don't have any actual wealth, it's all promises. What is a promise to pay other than an IOU? So people are pissed that their IOUs aren't coming out fat. Give me a break.
Retiring with hsi big, fat, gov. pension......what a joke of a leader and a country. next up...Italy and Spain.....
"This 2nd loan agreement must be signed otherwise we are out of the markets, out of the euro," govt spox Pantelis Kapsis told TV
We're all suicide bankers now... Alex Brown!
Someone needs to stand up and shout: "Enjoy your time in the wilderness!"
Monaco awaits...
Indeed.
On second thought, it might be London where he can really call himself at home...
He will teach at Harvard with Gordon Brown. He will be welcome there.
I thought he already stepped down. Did I miss something?
He already left the government, now he's leaving the party, as Goldman drank all the booze.
Bullish...to be sure. Another made up catalyst. Prepare for BlowHorn [CNBC] to pimp it, invite criminal syndicate Wall Street bankers on air to bridge the gap between this moment and the next summit....false equity catalysts for all the slaves.
Pap smear in the ensuing Hellenic havoc?
Related News: Irish 2011 budget Def €24.9bn VS €18.7bn 2010
When you nationalize your banking system you do what you want. Race to the bottom, and all of that.
The Greek Orthodox Church will be the only viable enterprise left in Greece.
Ummm...
OT: Today's reverse POMO results, $64.78B submitted and only $8.74B accepted.
I almost forgot about POMO ops. The QE that's not QE.....
The sign of POMO was evident in today's chart. 10:45 AM ramp job.
Wasn't he replaced by a Goldman Sachs/ECB bankster? Just like Italy?
Greek Defaults....
=WELCOME DRACHMAS
Why use the old currency name? I think they should come up with something more reflective of reality....Roth-bucks?
As a kid I remember an episode of the Pink Panther cartoon where the Pink Panther is in a house that sits on a cliff; His arch enemy ingeniously executes a successful plan to shove the house off the cliff-just before impact the Pink Panther opens the door & steps out unscathed just milliseconds before the house hits the grounds & is destroyed...today art imitates life...Gpap is the Pink Panther - There is a WB7 portrait!
Greece has always been the poster child because it's full of little islands that these criminals can bug out to...
Who is next in line for promotion at Goldman?
fuck G-PAP....
bitch made banker owned coward..........
So much for the captain going down with the ship!
The ancient Greeks must be rolling over in their graves. What a pathetic mess.
Gpap is of course just a front-man for the real crooks....where oh where are the investigative reporters???? Oh, I forgot they are all regurgitating Pentagon press releases.
I am sure he has his gold already gone...its funny to see a failure..just leave like it not his problem...sorry...take II..what ever...these politicians should be held responsible...at least not get a pension...
can only imagine what his pension and golden parachute looks like.......albeit as it may not have any money to pay him thru 2012
I read he/his family trusts invested $10MM via various companies in greek CDS about one year or 1-1/2 ago.
How do you say "Douche bag Anglo-Amerikan Bankster puppet" in Greek?
Papandreou
Funny, I always thought he was an American anyway.
He's dual citizen - Greek and American.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emv9s4gbhRY
But boy can dem Greeks whip up some good grub.
I wonder if G-Pap will still have a seat at the next Bilderberg meeting.
Ya mas, G-Pap. And millions of Americans can only hope to one day speak English as eloquently as you.