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G7 Preparing Statement To Support Dollar, EU, In Fact Everything That Would Otherwise Collapse Tomorrow, Before Asia Open

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Just out from Bloomberg: Finance ministers and central bankers are preparing a statement to release before the open of Asian markets, the Nikkei newspaper reported, without citing anyone. Japan may intervene in currency market if dollar falls. G-7 finance ministers, central bankers expected to express confidence in dollar, pledge liquidity. U.S. to explain fiscal rebuilding efforts." [so no more sniping at S&P and actually doing its job eh?] "Japan to express intention to maintain Treasury holdings. G-7 expected to show support for EU fiscal efforts." And while the G7 is about to realize that when faced with a $100 trillion (equities plus debt) market onslaught its printing powers are next to laughable, Dow Jones reports that the "ECB is weighing Italian, Spanish bond buying on a massive scale." Two take homes: i) the Fed has just lost its competitive advantage of doing idiotic things on a massive scale as the world wake up to tits trickery (unless of course the Fed resumes said thing on a massiver scale, which it will), and ii) tomorrow is the day when the infinite force of central planning meets the immovable object of capital markets. We will find out who blinks first in a few hours.

 

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Sun, 08/07/2011 - 14:53 | 1533408 dwdollar
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Sun, 08/07/2011 - 14:52 | 1533416 dwdollar
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I agree.  There's only three things that could save Obama at this point:

1.)  A f*****g miracle.

2.)  A suspension of the election.

3.)  A very popular third party candidate.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 15:37 | 1533582 Tuco Benedicto ...
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4.   FALSE  FLAG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Tuco

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 16:40 | 1533813 snowball777
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5.) A particularly stupid 2nd party candidate...with a bus.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 14:00 | 1533204 Arch Duke Ferdinand
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OT: hilarious 2 min video

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0Uju3tYS2s

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Sun, 08/07/2011 - 14:01 | 1533206 Yen Cross
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  As promised Hulk.   http://www.fxstreet.com/rates-charts/currency-rates/    make sure you have Java enabled.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 14:26 | 1533311 Hulk
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Thanks Yen. BTW, take a couple of your pumpkins, when they are hardball aize , and throw em in the oven .

D-Licious!

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 16:32 | 1533783 Yen Cross
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  Will do if the Kids don't beat me to them!  Have a good trading week!

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 14:01 | 1533209 DarkStarDog
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and the band played on !  Dow opens up 400 points.  Nuttin to it the way we do it. 

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 14:05 | 1533228 Transitory Disi...
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I fully expect the markets to open higher initially, got to knock the stops out.  Then comes the titanic.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 14:05 | 1533220 stateside
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For those of us into this kind of thing, I wouldn't miss the next few days for anything.  We all have opinions as to what will happen but deep inside we admit we don't really have a clue LOL.

 

 

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 14:28 | 1533317 Hulk
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Whatever happens tomorrow will be based on confidence levels, as it is a confidence game...

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 17:45 | 1534000 NumNutt
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Well if that is the case (which I agree with you) then we are screwed. Just look at the price of PM's, which to me suggest no confidence. Actually I don't think I have spoken to anyone lately that has a pulse, and keeps up with the news, that feels confident. In troubled times people need to turn to a strong leader for confidence, to be reassured that everything will be ok.........Oh crap we are screwed......

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 14:28 | 1533324 cossack55
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Are you calling me a politician? Thems fightin' words, buddy.  Andy Jackson will whup the tar outta you.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 14:05 | 1533226 wang (not verified)
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today is just a Bear Stearns Sunday redux

Lehman awaits

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 14:06 | 1533230 ISEEIT
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You guys are just so fu#ing LMAO funny! It is truly your intense hilariousness that addicts me to your hyper amusing mockery of those attempting to fool us.

I LOVE YOU ZH!!

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 15:19 | 1533505 slewie the pi-rat
Sun, 08/07/2011 - 14:06 | 1533232 A Lunatic
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Might be a good time to turn all of this shit off and come back in a few weeks to see how the dust settled.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 14:21 | 1533290 Yen Cross
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  Fukishima dust never settles!

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 15:31 | 1533558 Tuco Benedicto ...
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Unfortunately, the Fukushima dust does settle in the form of radioactive "hot" particles which if ingested will kill you deader than a hammer in a matter of decades.  So breathe easy, literally and figuratively.

Tuco

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 14:07 | 1533234 scratch_and_sniff
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Im already being quoted 1.4350/1.4370 for eur/usd, and 1,6638/1,6728 for gold...

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 14:17 | 1533274 scratch_and_sniff
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0.7544/0.7594 for usd/chf new all time low and falling...lol now 0.7529/0.7579

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 14:07 | 1533236 Cynical Centaur
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Arrrrrrg!!!!!!!!!!

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 14:09 | 1533240 Dr. Gonzo
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On Friday the ECB realeased a statment saying they "might" buy Italian/Spanish Bonds.

On Saturday Germany said NO WAY.

On Sunday they go back to  jawboning about "maybe" buying said bonds.

Well I don't care what they do. I'm buying PM's...Platinum to be specific. They can buy all the garbage they want. If it helps hold the system together a little longer good for them but it's their funeral. I'm sick of jawboning bullshit anyway. Let them do it. 

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 14:11 | 1533248 Manthong
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I have placed an AGE and an ASE along with a stack of FRN and US coin equal to $1.701.72 on my desk (spot Friday close).

I will wake up tomorrow morning and only one of those three things will have been intrinsically affected by the governments of the world.

I know that the AGE and the ASE will be the exact same as they were when I acquired them over 20 years ago. 

The US currency.. I think I know what will happen to that. 

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 14:31 | 1533335 cossack55
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So, lets see, thats 1 AGE, 1 ASE, 5 $1 bills, and 3 dimes?

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 15:12 | 1533473 Manthong
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OK.. Seventeen (17) one hundred dollar FRN's one (1) one dollar FRN, two (2) post-1964 quarters, two (2) post-1964 dimes and two (2)  zinc copper clad pennies.

Typos happen and my blog reply post proof reader out shopping for a new three crotch thong for me.

I guess it's a good thing the reply wasn't in widely accepted SMS syntax.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 14:10 | 1533252 navy62802
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I could of course be wrong, but to me, any statement like this coming now would only make the dollar look even weaker than people already consider it to be. I think such a statement would have exactly the opposite of what would be intended.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 14:22 | 1533298 Waffen
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yes it all reeks of desperation.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 14:14 | 1533259 wang (not verified)
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Sun, 08/07/2011 - 14:16 | 1533267 Catullus
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We stand ready ... to poop our collective pants. But we are prepared -- We shall coordinate and wear the brown pants.

 

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 14:17 | 1533271 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Since we, using the Roman calender, skipped the year "zero", 2011 is the actual 2012. 

Looks like everything is lining up.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 14:18 | 1533278 DCFusor
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I fought the fed, and the fed won (usually).

The fed fights world markets and....who wins?  Grab the popcorn and see!

 

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 14:19 | 1533281 silvertrain
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Didnt all of the banks in the EU just go through stress tests not long ago? Most passed with flying colors..

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 14:23 | 1533291 cranky-old-geezer
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The US dollar became the world reserve currency because America had the strongest manufacturing economy on the planet, and was the strongest creditor nation on the planet.

Now China is the strongest manufacturing economy on the planet, and  the strongest creditor nation on the planet. Ergo China's currency WILL become the new world reserve currency at some point.

G7 nations are going to keep bailing out insolvent nations and destroy their own currencies?  That seems to be the plan. They fully intend to keep the ponzi scheme going, regardless of downgrades.  They're going to print and print and print and keep on printing till their currencies are worthless.  The dollar, the Euro, the Yen, all printed and loaned to insolvent nations till they're worthless.

Deflation isn't going to happen.   Hyperinflation is what's going to happen.  I guarantee it. 

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 14:26 | 1533310 Yen Cross
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And Otools cronies will populate the Ghost Cities...

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 14:58 | 1533430 Seasmoke
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they surely fear deflation much much more than hyperinflation

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 15:26 | 1533524 Tuco Benedicto ...
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There are no "guarantees".  We are in unchartered territory.  in 2001 Argentina cash was king for some time as banks closed and cash withdrawals were extremely limited.  Also, don't forget about the $1,500,000,000,000,000.00 in derivates that must be unwound!

Hold green cash in case of dellation and gold and silver in case of deflation "or" inflation.

No one on this planet knows exactly what is going to happen and when, not even the demons who planned this mess!

Tuco Benedicto Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 15:54 | 1533652 cranky-old-geezer
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There won't be any deflation. Central banks aren't going to call in debt and pull currency out of circulation. 

It's going to be more debt and more debt and more debt to keep insolvent governments going (like the US government). 

Anyone who doesn't see that is a fool.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 14:23 | 1533300 falak pema
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BTW : In their rebuttal of US administration's rebuttal of their downgrade, S&P's issued a veiled warning to US : If you don't get your act together you could be downgraded further in six to twenty four months! 

Is this pointing to the Congress not doing due dilligence on tax hikes, or is it pointing to QE-3 not being a good thing for the world economy which the FED  will initiate at it's own risk?

I wonder...China/BRIC are now breathing down strong on S&P's neck, showing the market thet hold the initiative.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 15:19 | 1533510 TwelfthVulture
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Is it pointing to Congress not getting serious about slowing/stopping spending?

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 15:39 | 1533600 cranky-old-geezer
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Is this pointing to the Congress not doing due dilligence on tax hikes, or is it pointing to QE-3 not being a good thing for the world economy which the FED  will initiate at it's own risk?

It's about spending.  They're saying if the US government doesn't bring spending down, US debt will be downgraded again.

S&P cited congress's complete failure to get a measly 2 trillion in spending cuts over 10 years.  Reid's 2 trillion "savings" because they decided to not invade Mars may fool some people but it doesn't fool S&P.

S&P knows the situation is hopeless.  The US government is going to keep spending like money grows on trees, and keep borrowing till the national debt is $100 trillion.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 14:23 | 1533301 Negro Primero
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Samba!

"Brazil Said to Keep Foreign Reserves in U.S. Treasuries After Downgrade"

Brazil has no plans to sell U.S. Treasuries or change its foreign currency reserves holdings as a result of Standard & Poor’s downgrade of the U.S.’s credit rating, a government official said.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-08-07/brazil-said-to-keep-foreign-res...

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 14:42 | 1533392 CrashisOptimistic
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Why would anyone say anything different, and thereby lower the price they receive for what they sell a few hours later?

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 17:53 | 1534029 BurningFuld
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Ding Ding Ding we have a winner. Nobody is showing their real hand until the opening bell....and even then there will be plenty of bluffing.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 14:27 | 1533314 Freewheelin Franklin
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unless of course the Fed resumes said thing on a massiver scale

 

Is that like "too biggerer"?

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 14:28 | 1533318 vast-dom
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G7 statement = too funny!

 

 

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 14:29 | 1533325 zorba THE GREEK
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The european situation is the real elephant in the room, the treasury downgrade is just the

500# gorilla, but you can bet the room is going to get real messy.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 14:31 | 1533336 oldmanagain
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Bank solvency is a moving target.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 14:41 | 1533338 stateside
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Start the popcorn popping at 7:55 PM.  CNBC will be broadcasting live at 8:00 PM tonight.  Guests will be anyone willing to profess the markets are currently undervalued, stocks should be bought for the long-term, and gold is in a bubble.  Kudlow will state that King Dollar reigns supreme.  Becky "the Buffet Groupie" Quick will pop up from under Warren's desk long enough to proclaim Warren is buying US stocks tonight.  The anticipation is almost intoxicating.  The only thing worth watching will be the tightness in Michelle Caruso-Cabrera's shirt.

 http://highprobability.blogspot.com/2009/02/cnbcs-michele-caruso-cabrera-bikini.html

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 14:55 | 1533423 notadouche
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You can bet that one of the pundits CNBC pulls out in an attempt to talk up the markets is Abbey Joseph Cohen.  She's never on unless CNBC feels the need to "calm" the markets.   

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 16:00 | 1533690 css1971
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Start the popcorn popping at 7:55 PM.

You need to state your timezone when you mention times. I'm on CEST; UTC +2. and it's already 10pm.

 

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 14:35 | 1533348 JW n FL
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbrdF2uXA3w

 

Uploaded by on Aug 4, 2011

This time Max Keiser and co-host, Stacy Herbert, report from New York City. They discuss the exorbitant privilege America is about to lose. They look at football players with AAA credit ratings and at Apple's cash stockpile bigger than Americas.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 14:36 | 1533355 sulfur
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if you have to print a counterstatement - you alread lost the argument

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 14:40 | 1533376 Peak Everything
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Tyler,

Here in Canada Greenspan is top of the news on the hour saying stocks are going down tomorrow.

Care to comment?

My theory is:

- TPTB worried people will dump treasuries and push stocks up

- with stocks up they cannot justify QE3

- without QE3 USG cannot fund deficit without higher interest rates

- higher interest rates collapse ponzi because real growth is negative

- real growth is negative because net energy is declining

 

So if natural market forces say sell treasuries, and TPTB want us to sell stocks, what happens? PMs to the moon? Or stalemate?

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 14:42 | 1533391 Tunga
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And now; a massage from the Swedish Prime minister: "Run banker bitches RUN!!!"

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 14:48 | 1533397 PulauHantu29
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I remember reading a story in one of the economic journals about five years ago that: 1. there would be WW III in about 2012; and that it would be the USA and Europe on one side and Russia and China on the other.  The source of the conflict would be over resources the article said.SA countries would take sides depending on who owes what money to whom. Africa would be one of the major battlegrounds since all countries would rather detroy someone elses property instead of their own during the battles.

But I wonder if reckless monetary and fiscal policy will be to blame and angry creditors (Russia and China maybe even Japan) will do what angry people do esp since there seems to be no effort by Europe or Congress to solve the Debtor problem in a substantial and prudent way.Just as the Mafia sent Luigi To Collect, we may see a major collection effort in the near future ....who knows?

 

This could get ugly as this equation hardens:

ACTION = REACTION

 

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 14:45 | 1533399 CrashisOptimistic
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Look, people, this is not rocket science.

The S&P used the 10 years worth of annual 5% GDP presumption and STILL downgraded.

All of the debt ceiling deal was using 5% GDP annually for 10 yrs.

What more do you need to know?

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 14:47 | 1533412 Piranhanoia
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Guardian UK has a story in the live room tolling the "pundits of fame blame the S&P game" on US tv.   The only thing these stellar architects of the QE14 can say is,  "We did not know the iceberg was there and there is no similarity to the Titanic at all".  (this is your captain, all women and children first, space creatures, red indians and a sort of idealized version of the complete renaissance man)

Oh,   And it was S&P's fault. It was their iceberg after all. They did it. They are wrong. They are just plain mean and nasty.  

The whole world is laughing that our bigheads of state are no brighter or competent than their bigheads of state.  These people don't do anything, they just get elected. They have never had real jobs so they don't know how to do anything. Maybe we will remember this time, and give them jobs they are worthy of.  After everyone else is employed that wants to work. 

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 14:53 | 1533421 vegas
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For many years I have believed the markets were the truth - no longer. Amerika has been permanently stained with central planning, something which will ultimately lead to banana republic status.

There is no truth anymore in the body politic - only spin.And it only gets exponentially worse as the days go by.

I don't have a clue how this shit works itself out in the markets, only to say that gold is the one thing I can buy on any break.

I only hope there is a special place in hell for the likes of the politicos who put the masses through this mess.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 14:59 | 1533433 uno
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just ordered another 500 ounces, have to imagine the premiums are gonna pop higher soon

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 15:04 | 1533453 BetTheHouse
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I assume you are talking about silver, but on the outside chance you are talking about gold, are you adopting by any chance?  I'mwilling to be like son to some filthy rich Mom or Dad. 

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 15:29 | 1533547 Ghoaster
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I must admit that I'm so damn happy I've prepared for this for 7 years....waiting the game out, watching. Scaring the shit out of the sheeple who ask my opinion on the state of $$ in this country. Now, I feel like it's the superbowl or world series ,etc...And we're winning.

6 hours to launch

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 15:29 | 1533548 Ghoaster
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I must admit that I'm so damn happy I've prepared for this for 7 years....waiting the game out, watching. Scaring the shit out of the sheeple who ask my opinion on the state of $$ in this country. Now, I feel like it's the superbowl or world series ,etc...And we're winning.

6 hours to launch

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 15:59 | 1533680 bullet357
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Bank run coming to a bank near you!  Time to hunker in the Bunker..........Food & Ammo

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 16:27 | 1533762 notadouche
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The ruling elites plan is falling nicely into place.  Plan was hatched decades ago.  Get as many Americans on the dole as possible.  Cradle to grave entitement just on par with subsistance level.  It's a form of hush money.  We will pay you a minimum amount to carry you just so as long as you don't speak out, criticize, riot, start a new political party or revolt.   Plan 55% complete.   By end of Obama term plan should be up to 70% complete.  Speaking out may get you thrown out of the security nest or at the very least get you tarred and feathered as a racist.  The plan had one flaw that is only now getting the attention of the planners, thanks to most of Europe.  Not enough productive people to fund the non productive.   The productive, not part of the grand plan no longer can bear the burden of such nonsense.   Oh Shit now what.  Well we are about to find out.  

New political rule.  Any rules shackling the people should also shackle these elitist.  They pass a law, gee maybe they should have to live under the guidelines of that law themselves.  At that point maybe we wouldn't get so much BS shoved down our throats.  

 

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 16:39 | 1533810 Island_Dweller
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Have they prepared a statement supporting Precious Metals?

No? I Guess they don't need it.....

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 17:40 | 1533983 gwar5
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.

Textbook case on how to prevent a bank run by the G-7, issuing their forthcoming joint statement:  

"What-eeever you do everybody....  don't try pull out all your money out of the banks in the morning at the same time!  Christsakes, there's only enough cash on hand for the first few that get there!"    --- G-7 joint statement, August 8th

 

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 17:52 | 1534027 NumNutt
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Funny thing happened to me one time. I was written a check for approx 30,000 USD. I took it to the issueing bank and requested to have it cashed. They laughed at me and flat out told me they did not have enough cash on hand to cover it. If I wanted to cash it I would need to give them one week notice. Just an FYI, if TSHTF get to the bank early, don't stop at Starbucks for a coffee..,

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 19:06 | 1534380 gwar5
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I'm afraid you're painfully correct.

I am selling a house tomorrow, and told the closing attorney I wanted an appropriately negotiable instrument to receive all cash from the bank because I plan on walking out with it in a paper bag. I let them assume I was just joking. But I seriously don't think the bank will have enough cash on hand. We'll see.

 

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