Geithner Tells NBC S&P Shows "Stunning Lack Of Knowledge About Basic US Fiscal Budget Math"

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Geithner was on NBC and when discussing the massively overdue S&P downgrade of US debt, shared the following pearl of wisdom: "S&P decision to cut U.S. credit rating shows stunning lack of knowledge about basic U.S. fiscal budget math." Listen to Tim: when it comes to stunning lacks of knowledge about things, Tim is the absolute expert, although in his case it is mostly the US tax code. He added that S&P made a "terrible judgment" and reached the wrong conclusion. He is right. The cut should have been at least several more notches. But there is time... Lastly, and most expectedly, he added that the S&P decision changed nothing on the safety of Treasuries and that China remains a strong investor in the US. Perhaps. We shall see after the TIC statement from October is released, which will detail August transactions. Alas, by then the world will have other issues to deal with.

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Sun, 08/07/2011 - 18:41 | 1534267 FLUSA.com
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Geithner submits his Letter of Retardation....

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 18:46 | 1534293 Ricky Bobby
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Fucking hilarious!!

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 18:57 | 1534338 Troll Magnet
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All this bickering back and forth seems to me like a bunch of charades to deflect people's attention away from the fact that a bunch of insiders had inside information and got the hell out of dodge before the shit hit the fan last week.  Instead of listening to what these criminals are bickering over, we need to demand an investigation into who knew what, when and how.  

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 19:08 | 1534383 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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If you are talking about all the Christian dudes that had come back from three weeks in the Grove last week, then duh!

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 19:24 | 1534470 Threeggg
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"fact that a bunch of insiders had inside information and got the hell out of dodge before the shit hit the fan last week"

Quote of "this" week !

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 21:27 | 1534796 Tuco Benedicto ...
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Yes, which fox currently guarding the hen house do you propose to do the investigating?

Tuco

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 19:49 | 1534573 Chuck Walla
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And believe it or don't, NBC is surprised their boy is a feckless and callow idiot. Now, how do they build him up again as the nation's savior? It worked before...

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 18:47 | 1534307 makeyoumiss
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One of the best comments I've read in a long time!

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 18:56 | 1534333 nmewn
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Turbo Tax Timmah pontificates on math...it just doesn't get any better...LOL!!!

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 18:59 | 1534348 MarketTruth
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And remember that Chinese STUDENTS literally LAUGHED in Geithner's face when he went there spewing his BS about two years ago. Everyone with a brain knows Geithner's is a dolt and the 5% yearly growth the US Gov is judging their numbers on is a farce.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 19:01 | 1534365 WestVillageIdiot
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Is it your opinion that those numbers are too low?  Do you think we will have growth over 5 percent for the foreseeable future?  Just messing with you.  He really is a douche. 

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 19:21 | 1534450 darkstar7646
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The problem with that, MarketTruth, is that the Chinese models are even more farcical.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 19:35 | 1534513 Uncle Remus
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Proof then that the Chinese know farcical when they see/hear it.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 21:35 | 1534825 IQ 145
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Yes, that's a good thing to be remembering. I laughed out loud when I came to the part about China remains a strong buyer of treasuries. Less and less so all the time. What  do you call this? If the Band plays a little louder, maybe the bows won't sink any further into the Atlantic?

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 18:59 | 1534353 Cheesy Bastard
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Math hysteria.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 19:08 | 1534387 VisualCSharp
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Mass hysteria with a lisp? LOL

Although I guess that would be 'math hythteria.'

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 19:00 | 1534359 WestVillageIdiot
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That's as funny as Obama becoming a golf pro. 

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 19:05 | 1534374 nmewn
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ROTFLMAO!!!

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 19:36 | 1534521 Uncle Remus
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By virtue of being a politician he was already a "pro".

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 21:25 | 1534783 Tuco Benedicto ...
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Yes, like Bill Clinton the best wood in his bag is his "pencil"!

Tuco

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 19:09 | 1534393 Id fight Gandhi
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No risk at all for a downgrade remember. This guys knows his shit.

Anyone else having issues with zh loading?

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 19:37 | 1534524 Uncle Remus
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yep

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 19:45 | 1534555 Kayman
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Anyone else having issues with zh loading?

yes. And something called Pressflow / Drupal telling me that I cannot connect to ZeroHedge.

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 00:17 | 1535596 James
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Transitory

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 19:43 | 1534549 asteroids
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Fucking weasel.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 18:41 | 1534269 oogs66
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his own stunning lack of knowledge! 

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 18:42 | 1534272 lunaticfringe
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OMG. I think I've just pissed myself laughing so hard!

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 19:05 | 1534376 LeBalance
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clean up crew to Aisle Wight!

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 19:08 | 1534389 Cheesy Bastard
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Lol.  To aisles of Greece?

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 18:42 | 1534273 glenlloyd
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I am still amazed that such garbage can flow from the mouth of mr jeethner.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 18:42 | 1534278 Bob Sacamano
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I'm telling you -- BHO and his administration are beyond arrogant.  They know what is true and, worst yet, they know what is best for the people.  Central planning is the end game. 

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 21:23 | 1534774 Tuco Benedicto ...
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No!  The end game is "eugenics"!

Tuco

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 18:43 | 1534280 moregoldplease
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This from the guy that couldn't figure out his tax software!!!!!!!!!!!

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 18:47 | 1534303 Mactheknife
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No...this from the guy who SAID he couldn't figure out his tax software...Turbo Timmy.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 19:48 | 1534568 The Limerick King
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There once was a Klepto named Tim
Who everyone thought was quite dim
With cunning and stealth
He stole all their wealth
Now laughing the loudest is him.

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 00:22 | 1535622 James
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Imagine a "Weird"Al Yankovich redoing this song. It's even about Canabilism!\

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGNdvKvbxYQ

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 18:44 | 1534282 Ramboy
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This site is too funny.  Don't you know your leaders reflect your people.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 18:56 | 1534329 Quixotic_Not
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I haven't voted since We the Sheeple failed to elect Perot in 1992!

Moreover, there's a HUGE section of the USoA that didn't CONSENT to the (D) & (R) Free Shit Empire™...

So from an A-M-E-R-I-C-A-N, not a POS DemoRAT -or- GOPher, I don't find the District of Criminals funny one fuckin' bit!

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 19:17 | 1534433 Abitdodgie
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Did you know if you rescind your voting rights you can then challenge paying income tax remember "taxation without representation" well it works the other way round.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 19:30 | 1534492 Quixotic_Not
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You first!

I keep paying my protection money to the FSA mob, as I'm outnumbered at least 1,000,000 -to- 1 :-(

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 19:22 | 1534458 darkstar7646
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The only problem is that the Free Shit Empire/Army is the only reason people don't knock down your door and loot your ass dry.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 21:22 | 1534764 Tuco Benedicto ...
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Ha, ha.  When the looting comes it certainly "will be" the Free Shit Empire/Army.  Have you not yet figured out that the Department of Homeland Security was established to be used against the American people!?  Knock, knock:)

Tuco

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 01:40 | 1535965 darkstar7646
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Then they might want to be prepared to move rather quickly. Social order is being lost on more than just individual circles these days. If it ever gets above a _small_ mob...

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 18:58 | 1534341 WestVillageIdiot
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First off, they are our representatives, not our "leaders".  Second off, the crowd on ZH is mostly not the run-of-mill brain dead American that is reflected by the clowns in office. 

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 19:17 | 1534429 Kayman
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Come on now Ramboy, tell us what pristine leader you have in your pristine country.

Bet you don't have the guts to tell the truth.

If ya can't take a punch in the mouth then, read, don't comment on ZH.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 21:25 | 1534778 geoffb
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In case you weren't aware of it, our government was captured by bankers circa 1913. We the people, have had little  say in matters since then. No denial here, just harsh, painful truth.

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 00:24 | 1535632 James
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But our leaders do not reflect ZeroHedge.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 18:45 | 1534285 Ramboy
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NATION FULL OF DENIAL

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 18:45 | 1534287 MrBinkeyWhat
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My Winkie is bigger than your winkie. Poop.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 18:45 | 1534288 crash_davis
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I am amazed that so many hard working god fearing americans will watch that interview and believe mr. jeethner.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 19:03 | 1534372 WestVillageIdiot
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Boobicus Americanus is easily fooled. 

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 21:40 | 1534843 IQ 145
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The god fearing ones will beieve anything; argument proven as delivered.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 18:45 | 1534289 Ramboy
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LIARS & WHORES

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 18:45 | 1534290 JLee2027
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What an arsehole. He's going to down in history next to Bozo the Clown. 

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 18:46 | 1534294 hamster wheel
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It's a terminal condition.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 18:46 | 1534301 Coldfire
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The plane would fly so much better without any instruments.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 18:49 | 1534317 MsCreant
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Is this your way of saying he is a tool?

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 19:19 | 1534442 Kayman
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Amazing.... someone believes the plane is still flying.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 18:47 | 1534304 hedgeless_horseman
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As to his failure to pay the payroll taxes from 2001 to 2004 while he worked for the International Monetary Fund, Geithner said: "These were careless mistakes. They were avoidable mistakes."

"But they were unintentional," he said. "I should have been more careful."

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 19:18 | 1534437 Miss Expectations
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S&P should sprinkle those 4 quotes into its defense memos.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 18:48 | 1534311 Ramboy
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Skanks in NY watch the housewives of NY and actually think they're nothing like that

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 19:06 | 1534379 WestVillageIdiot
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+2011

I see that every day. 

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 19:22 | 1534454 Kayman
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Ramboy

You must be from out of the country.  If you've been to NY then you would know skank and housewife are one and the same.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 19:41 | 1534542 Uncle Remus
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Life denying art imitating life.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 18:48 | 1534313 Catullus
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Thank God has only a basic understand of inflationary math. Tough to understand how you can rate something AA+ that pays back .50 to the dollar over 12 years.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 21:43 | 1534859 IQ 145
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Duhh! plus two. what happened to the thumbs up button; is this the new new normal, or is this just my Chrome browser expressing it's "individuality".

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 18:48 | 1534314 teolawki
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Supa Timma!

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 18:48 | 1534316 Buzz Wired
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No fudge button on their calculator.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 18:50 | 1534318 kaiserhoff
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Sounds like Timmy has a case of the vapors.  Oh, the trials and tribulations of the one-balled man!

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 18:55 | 1534330 doomandbloom
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waiting for Banzai to rip him apart..yet again :)

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 18:56 | 1534332 bbq on whitehou...
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You will let us know when the world ends right? Gold and silver gap 1or 2k and Es gap at least a 500.

Im waiting untill i see a headline: "The world has ended, thank you for playing."

I should'n joke it could be tomarrow. But untill the world ends im just a guy who jumped out a window and as i pass each floor i say ( so far so good).

Still im glad i found this site. Hopefully the finacial world will not end tomarrow.

If it does Walmart looks to see aome solid sales.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 19:00 | 1534358 CrashisOptimistic
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WMT's same store sales are in freefall.  Google Howard Davidowitz.

Further, think about it, their core customers (low income) are the ones getting butchered.  How can they do well?

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 19:07 | 1534385 WestVillageIdiot
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SNAP

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 19:23 | 1534465 darkstar7646
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And a real question:

Does anyone actually believe that SNAP/Food Stamps/UI Benefits/SS last another two years in present form?

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 21:46 | 1534873 IQ 145
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See "Brookers" on youtube; "paste, I like to eat paste". 

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 19:24 | 1534469 Kayman
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Wallymart-typical short term thinkers.  All the Chinese shit is coming to haunt them.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 22:42 | 1535089 FeralSerf
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But they're getting a lot of new low income core customers from the (ex)-middle class.  They're just shopping at Target for a month or two on their way down to the sewer.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 19:02 | 1534366 Cheesy Bastard
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The headline will say "World has ended. Women and minotities hardest hit."

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 19:47 | 1534415 Pure Evil
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Did you mean to say, "Women and Mini-titties hardest hit"?

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 18:57 | 1534336 css1971
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Wow... And he's in charge of the US government's money. It pretty much explains everything.

 

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 18:57 | 1534337 keepmydollar
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What an idiot. He can say this because now QE 3 begins on Monday. Ben's printer has gone thru multiple toner cartridges today as he is going to try and absorb all the sales orders tomorrow.

What is even worse is the GSE's debt got a downgrade from this also. My be is they try to protect Treasuries and the GSE's get crushed.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 19:24 | 1534471 darkstar7646
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Sold to him; he might be the only bidder come tomorrow morning.

Israel down 7%, Brazil down 6% today.

If this continues, we probably circuit-breaker at the open, and then ALL bets are off.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 18:57 | 1534340 slaughterer
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Timmy is right.  Be a patriot.  Stand by him.  Defend your country from the S&P.  

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 19:08 | 1534390 WestVillageIdiot
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We're too busy pulling a train on your sister.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 19:20 | 1534447 JohnG
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Harsh.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 19:23 | 1534464 WestVillageIdiot
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That d-bag has been trolling all day.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 18:58 | 1534343 slewie the pi-rat
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timmah is tremendously full of shit and lying thru his bankster teeth.  of course.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 18:58 | 1534344 tmosley
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Yeah, it didn't change anything.  US debt is still junk, or at best-near junk.

But fuck it, I'm happy the world isn't (yet) ending, as that gives more time to accumulate silver, and for my industrial panic scenario to play out.  To be honest, I was damn scared today, and seeing things NOT blow up in an unprecedented manner makes me quite happy.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 21:14 | 1534729 Tuco Benedicto ...
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+1

 

Tuco

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