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Germany to Review Bundesbank Gold Reserves in Frankfurt, Paris, London and New York Fed

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Germany to Review Bundesbank Gold Reserves in Frankfurt, Paris, London and Federal Reserve Bank of New York

Gold’s London AM fix this morning was 1682.50 USD, 1278.69 EUR and 1068.53 GBP  per ounce.

Yesterday's AM fix was  USD 1,685.60, EUR 1,282.24 and GBP 1,068.26 per ounce.

Gold fell $31.20/oz or 1.8% in New York yesterday and closed below the $1,700/oz level at $1,674.10/oz. Gold has traded in a range between $1,670/oz and $1,680/oz in Asia and early European trading and is now trading at $1,677.40/oz.

Support is at the 200-day moving average at $1,677/oz and below that between $1,650/oz and $1,660/oz. A more severe sell off could see gold fall to $1,600/oz and then to $1,500/oz but this is unlikely given continuing strong demand especially from Asia.

Volume yesterday in most active April futures topped 237,000 lots, making Tuesday the third highest day in terms of turnover in a month. This compares with Feb. 29's 343,493 lots of volume, the largest for one day of trade since Sept. 23 2011.

Asian shares fell for the third day in a row on Wednesday as investors grew more risk-averse, with renewed uncertainty over Greece's bailout and mounting worries about slowing global economies overshadowing support provided by ample liquidity. European shares have eked out gains in early trading.

German lawmakers are to review Bundesbank controls of and management of Germany’s gold reserves.  Parliament’s Budget Committee will assess how the central bank manages its inventory of Germany’s gold bullion bars that are believed to be stored in Frankfurt, Paris, London and the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, according to German newspaper Bild. 

CDU foreign policy expert Philip Missfelder (left) and Ralf Schuler BILD reporters in front of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York

The German Federal Audit Office has criticised the Bundesbank’s lax auditing and inventory controls regarding Germany’s sizeable gold reserves – 3,396.3 tonnes of gold or some 73.7% of Germany’s national foreign exchange reserves.

There is increasing nervousness amongst the German public, German politicians and indeed the Bundesbank itself regarding the gigantic risk on the balance sheet of Germany's central bank and this is leading some in Germany to voice concerns about the location and exact amount of Germany’s gold reserves.

The eurozone's central bank system is massively imbalanced after the ECB’s balance sheet surged to a record 3.02 trillion euros ($3.96 trillion) last week, 31% bigger than the German economy, after a second tranche of three-year loans.

The concern is that were the eurozone to collapse, Bundesbank's losses could be half a trillion euros - more than one-and-a-half times the size of the Germany's annual budget.

In that scenario, Germany’s national patrimony of gold bullion reserves would be needed to support the currency – whether that be a new euro or a return to the Deutsche mark.

The German lawmakers are following in the footsteps of US Presidential candidate Ron Paul who has long called for an audit of the US’ gold reserves.

It is believed that some 60% of Germany’s gold is stored outside of Germany and much of it in the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.

Germany and other central banks may follow in Hugo Chavez’s footsteps and repatriate their gold to Germany so as to have direct possession of and ownership of their gold reserves in order to be better prepared for a systemic or monetary crisis.

Jim Rickards has outlined possible plans by the Federal Reserve to commandeer Germany’s and all foreign depositors of sovereign gold at the New York Federal Reserve in the event of a dollar and monetary crisis leading to intensified “currency wars” and the ‘nuclear option’ of a drastic upward revision of the price of gold and a return to a quasi gold standard is contemplated by embattled central banks to prevent debt deflation.

OTHER NEWS

(Reuters Global Gold Forum) -- Gold holdings are at a fresh record of 70.795M oz, having risen by a net 27.24K oz overnight following inflows into COMEX Gold Trust, while silver holdings are down 1.36M oz following an outflow from iShares. Total silver holdings are at their highest in 10 months, having risen by more than a net 6M oz in the last month, although almost all of this is thanks to inflows into iShares, which have risen by 5.9M oz in this time.

March 6 (Bloomberg) -- The European Central Bank’s balance sheet surged to a record 3.02 trillion euros ($3.96 trillion) last week, 31 percent bigger than the German economy, after a second tranche of three-year loans.

(Bloomberg) -- Gold Fields Production Stopped by Cosatu Strike in South Africa 

Gold Fields Ltd., the world’s fourth-largest producer of the metal, had production stopped at its South African operations by a one-day strike by the Congress of South African Trade Unions over road toll fees and labor- broking.

“Attendance at our mines for the morning shift is around 15 percent,” Gold Fields said in an e-mailed response to a query today. “Effectively our staffing is therefore limited to essential services.”

(Bloomberg) -- Volkswagen, Gold Fields Shut by South African Workers’ Strike 

Volkswagen AG, General Motors Co. and Gold Fields Ltd. halted production in South Africa as workers went on a one-day strike to force the government to scrap short-term work contracts and highway tolls.

About 15 percent of workers arrived for the morning shift at mines run by Gold Fields, the world’s fourth-largest producer of the metal, the Johannesburg-based company said in an e-mailed statement today. Volkswagen, GM, Ford Motor Co. and Daimler AG shut their local plants, according to the companies.

The Congress of South Africa Trade Unions, an ally of the ruling African National Congress, is pushing President Jacob Zuma to ban labor brokers that arrange short-term contracts and curb costs as inflation erodes wage gains. The nationwide strike may shut down 30 percent to 40 percent of Africa’s biggest economy, according to Mike Schussler, chief economist at Economists.co.za, a Johannesburg-based advisory service.

“It’s all systems go for the biggest mass protest in years,” Cosatu’s spokesman, Patrick Craven, said in the e- mailed statement today.

Workers began gathering in various cities around the country to start 32 planned protest marches, Cosatu, the nation’s largest labor federation representing about 2 million workers, said in an e-mail. Protesters are due to march to the Chamber of Mines in Johannesburg and to Parliament in Cape Town. The nation’s biggest mining, manufacturing and transportation unions have backed the one-day protest.

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Wed, 03/07/2012 - 09:33 | 2231679 subqtaneous
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Time for another Hitler in the bunker moment . . .

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 10:03 | 2231682 GetZeeGold
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Vee vill enforce GAAP.

 

Unlike the Fed.....the Germans can actually count and pull off an audit.

 

Ronny - Audit the gold

Benny - You mean actually go count it? You're clearly a madman sir.

 

 

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 10:06 | 2231787 Comay Mierda
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... and its gone

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 10:12 | 2231810 Sudden Debt
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THIS CAN'T BE!!!!!!!

THEY STOLE IT FAIR AND SQUARE FROM THE JEWS AND THE REST OF EUROPE!!!

THOSE GOLD TEETH BELONG TO GERMANY!!!!!

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 11:35 | 2232152 55 men
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my favorite part about that picture is the big black guy smiling. He has no idea whats going but hey, he is happy to be their.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 13:08 | 2232583 trav7777
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their what?

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 17:50 | 2233683 tonyw
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Looks like they have 5%, who knows where the rest physically is.

I'd like to see what would happen if they asked for it back.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 12:18 | 2232355 Whiner
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No,no,NO! Das gold teefe we sold to da Sviss to finance death camps and war effort. We know nuhzing about teeth and hair or soap. If ze gold is not accounted for, ve vill present our sight draft in proper form--and insist on repatriation.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 14:07 | 2232832 Reptil
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No that's the Swiss.. (well some of them). The occupying forces made damn sure they got everything that was in Germany at that moment. This gold was earned during the "Wirtschaftswunder" in the sixties. It was put in London and New York for "safekeeping" because of the communist countries.
De Gaule saw this coming. An old story essentially. But with the US the biggest proponent of a "Global Economy" (and enforcement) they better think twice before confiscating german and dutch gold.

it might look bad.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 10:17 | 2231828 Manthong
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You know, with all of the urgent and important things they have to do over there, you would think that they have more pressing matters and would not be wasting valuable time diddling around with pieces of useless decoration from less civilized and enlightened times.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 10:26 | 2231861 GetZeeGold
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I believe that's been the current argument for the last 50 years.......getting by with it so far.

 

 

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 10:33 | 2231886 Sudden Debt
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The Germans have 3 traditions:

1. Bradwurst

2. Beer

3. Gold

Why and how come nobody knows, but tradition is tradition!

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 11:14 | 2232051 buckethead
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AYGABTU

 

 

<sub>bitchez

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 11:35 | 2232154 Arthor Bearing
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You make it sound like heaven. Throw in 4. Beautiful blue-eyed German girls and I'm pcking my bags

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 10:41 | 2231921 redpill
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The doublespeak is rich, ain't it?  Here we have the Fed Chairman testifying to Congress that central banks only hold gold because it's "tradition," but when the dark clouds of sovereign default on the horizon start to loom large, everyone inexplicably scrambles to check on their stocks of barbarous relics.

What a stupid joke.  They are lying to you, and every other person they see as a peasant in this world.  At the end of the day, he who holds the gold will make the rules of a new currency order.  They all know this of course, but would never admit it.  They want people to give up on holding gold, so they can gather it all and use it as they see fit.  They hate the idea of private individuals hording what could become the backing of a new currency, because then it's out of their control.  These maniacal assholes have been fucking with our currency for a century, with the last 40 years of it in total fantasy fiat land, and despite bringing us to the event horizon of a keynesian debt spiral black hole, still think they and they alone should hold all the cards.  Fuck these psycho oligarch dictators.  Unelected pricks who price fix time and money, the most fundamental and universal factors for any participant in the system.  Their time at the helm must end, one way or another.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 13:14 | 2232100 4horse
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s o l i t a i r e

rothschild plays with itself, pretending Glencore is raising a new $6 billion syndicated loan to back its $37 billion merger with miner Xstrata and is also extending . . .                                                              q marc rich

 
http://af.reuters.com/article/metalsNews/idAFL5E8E73ZP20120307

 

. . . same feigned finance through main foreign ffronts JPMorgan Chase, Morgan
Stanley and Goldman Sachs [as if] locked in an increasingly frantic struggle with
    q dimon, brodsky, blankfein
the Federal Reserve . . .                                                                                                                 

 

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/02/us-fed-banks-commodities-idUSTRE8211CC20120302

 

. . . as rotschild here roto-reuters all their own holy-owned A,K,Q,J through all their own holy-owned interALPHAbet all comin-up-roses and smellin like ___ well, you know, kinda like how all le rouge et le noir smell comin outta they ffudge factory

 

 

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 11:52 | 2232229 blindfaith
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"

"Jim Rickards has outlined possible plans by the Federal Reserve to commandeer Germany’s and all foreign depositors of sovereign gold at the New York Federal Reserve in the event of a dollar and monetary crisis leading to intensified “currency wars” and the ‘nuclear option’ of a drastic upward revision of the price of gold and a return to a quasi gold standard is contemplated by embattled central banks to prevent debt deflation."

No wonder they all want to know where their ASS-ets are.  We will return the value of your gold in federal reserve notes....you see there is simply not enough gold in the world to satisify the accounting numbers.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 14:48 | 2232965 silverserfer
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and when they hold it all they can create paper gold and short the fuck out of it and keep the price down so its not worth what it should be to us little people.

Their master plan is going perfectly to plan.

(feindish rolling hands together)

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 14:54 | 2233004 Tim White
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Wouldn't change a word...well put!!

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 15:48 | 2233204 Stoploss
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Thank you. Now back to our regularly scheduled global gold confiscation.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 10:10 | 2231803 trav7777
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RSA is a total clusterfuck at this point...nonstop strikes and a nation in collapse.  Their hyperinflation is coming inexorably.  The white people left cannot stop the forces of nature.

The other thing I noticed is that nobody is auditing national silver reserves.  Must be because silver is an industrial metal only loved by shameless pumpers on internet forums trying to create more bagholders to get blowtorched.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 10:54 | 2231976 Rubicon
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RSA is heaven compared to USA... 

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 20:03 | 2234182 CompassionateFascist
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Ah, no. Here the Black Undertow only pretends to rule. It's for real in SA. Whites will leave, or they will be eaten. Literally.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 11:12 | 2232048 silverbullion
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@trav7777 Being here in South Africa I fully agree. They're bleeding us dry.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 11:54 | 2232244 Rubicon
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Yeah, just like you bled them dry!

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 13:16 | 2232617 trav7777
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you fuckin idiot...how did the whites bleed RSA dry?  The whites established what africans were incapable of, a MODERN CIVILIZATION in Africa.  The whites CREATED all that was RSA, the roads, the plants, the mines, the EVERYTHING.  They didn't even use slave labor to do it, they did it themselves by the sweat of their own brow.

In order to preserve that civilization, they had to limit participation in it to the civilized, which excluded most africans, as, according to Jared Diamond, evolutionary pressure selected against civilization for them due to various factors.

Just take a look at Zimbabwe's import/export balance if you want to know what's coming with all those "hardworking," "bled dry" africans now having taken over all the formerly white owned farms (where they EMPLOYED people for wages).

You fuckin DWLs are the most insane, stupid, self-destructive pieces of shit on the planet.  Africans were used as low-end labor in the USA until the advent of the cotton gin and the influx of the irish and other cheaper labor resources.  In RSA, they were merely kept out of the areas of civilization to prevent their destruction of it.  Now that those fences have been torn down, the outcome is INEVITABLE.

Those whites who remain in RSA, and I know some well, are simply by their own admission doing no more than waiting for someone to put them out of their misery.  They have to sleep in armed compounds, behind steel security doors...wtf kind of life is that?

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 14:10 | 2232843 silverbullion
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@trav7777 Exactly! I couldn't state it better myself. We're so sick and tired of the lies and propaganda. This is the sort of thing we have to keep up with here in South Africa nowadays: http://www.adslsouthafrica.co.za/white-genocide.html This is what they're doing to us every bloody day. This is what happens when the majority of Whites fall for so called 'Judeo-Christianity', waiting on a fake long hair Judeo Jesus to save their sorry asses. The majority of Whites are nothing short of sheep being led to the slaughter... to be put out of their misery. It's a disgrace to say the least and a really fucked up way of life, but it's a reality we've got to face on a daily basis. Needless to say, we are not going to go down without a fight. They must just push us far enough. I personally believe that the collapse of the U.S. dollar and other fiat currencies, including the South African Rand, will be the event that will shake Whites out of their deep sleep, because then all the luxuries and other shit will fly out of the window, it will then be a matter of death or survival. Hopefully Whites across the globe will then unite to turn the world the right side up again.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 19:11 | 2233935 fnord88
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bullfuckingshit. Black vs white is about as meaningful as left vs right or pro-choice vs pro-life. Fucking distractions for the morons to keep the oligarchs in power. It's rich vs poor ( or more accurately, master vs slave ). Always has been, always will be. 

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 20:09 | 2234201 CompassionateFascist
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Yeah, that's what the JewMarx said. But history has proved the Jew wrong. Race trumps class every time, and will again. In fact, Bolshevism is Jewish.  

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 21:02 | 2234348 StychoKiller
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Yer almost there; it's more like the Intelligent vs the Stupid.  Unfortunately, the Intelligent know that they're obligated by their own intelligence to help the Stupid break the chains of their own ignorance.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 17:56 | 2233706 Rubicon
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You are one fucked up prick. You arrogant cunt. Fuck off back to your rascist hell hole pig shit.

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 01:39 | 2234922 silverbullion
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@Rubicon Thank you for the 'compliment' Mr. Brown. You can give me all the 'compliments' in the world, but my kind will never sit around the same fire as your kind. It is forbidden by our Law to mix that which is good in its kind with that which is bad in its kind. Now crawl back into the dog house, there are plenty of other dogs' arses to lick.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 14:57 | 2233021 silverserfer
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central banks dont hold silver, the military does. That info is classified. It is a strategic necessity with all future military advances.

It is in our national interest to keep silver, oil, etc cheap via paper manipulation. Got to keep the empire strong ya know.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 11:30 | 2232138 Born-Again Bankster
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Gold Paranoia is for zee likes of dictators...like zat Chavez tyrant.  Vee kent afford to have zee vorld thinking vee are becoming Hitler again.  I sink vee should just keep playing zee farmville and all vill be guud.  

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 11:39 | 2232168 EmileLargo
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Ï am sure you mean, "and all will be gut"?

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 13:17 | 2232368 4horse
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Unlike the Fed.....the Germans can actually count and pull off an audit

 

how, this-late-in-the-count, KO, can anyone this down-for-the-count still be talking in terms of germans belgian french irish italian spanish portugeuse etc and now even chinese as if they were a separate entity

 

 

  Ockham. Razor

 

  holophrastikos

 

R O T H S C H I L D

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 09:53 | 2231745 Rubicon
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"...all those who own bullion, leave the room..."

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 10:14 | 2231814 maneco
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Look at how gold exploded to $1900 last year when Chavez asked the Bank of England for his gold back! The Venezuelans have one tenth of the gold that the Germans have. Can you imagine what it would do to the price of gold as the "paper boys" are forced to cover their shorts if the Germans were to tell Mr Bernanke that they wanted delivery of all their gold forthwith?

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 10:25 | 2231857 noses
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Might be a good reason to do it... Just for the fun of it.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 11:42 | 2232186 prole
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Where would they get the precious to redeem that much?

I don't think Iran and Syria have that much 2 to 3K tons?? I dont' think so.

Dear Switzerland: I hope you have nukes.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 12:03 | 2232276 blindfaith
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GOLDFINGER,  he's the man, the man with the Mitus touch...

where is Oddlot when you need him most?  Down in the vault.

 art, life or the other way around? Which comes first?

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 07:06 | 2235278 Vlad Tepid
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Midas...and Oddjob...sorry, that was bugging me.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 20:12 | 2234217 CompassionateFascist
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At least the Germans know where their national gold is. We don't. Suspect: Israel.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 11:42 | 2232187 gabeh73
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Hey german sheeple...I'll give you a weiner shitzel tomorrow for your gold today...thats fair right?

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 09:33 | 2231680 battle axe
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Germany to NY Fed: " were is my gold?", NY Fed: "ahhh it was has to be here somewhere.."

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 09:49 | 2231729 LongSoupLine
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Dudley, "We replaced all gold with these massive stacks of iPads.  That way you have value and a snack if you get hungry."

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 09:55 | 2231753 The Limerick King
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A new tungsten audit is on

Just part of the Kleptocrat con

I hope they don't faint

From all the fresh paint

Their national gold is now gone

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 10:04 | 2231779 Ruffcut
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Germany to NY Fed: " were is my gold?", NY Fed: "we put it with the MF global client funds."

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 10:30 | 2231871 GetZeeGold
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Free Jon Corzine!!!!

 

Oh wait.......he is.

 

 

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 11:20 | 2232089 Pinto Currency
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NY Times headline: "Germany's gold in NY FED evaporated just before audit of NY Fed holdings"

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 09:35 | 2231683 They_Live
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"Press 1 to request the repatriation of your gold..."

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 09:40 | 2231689 GetZeeGold
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Wed, 03/07/2012 - 09:40 | 2231707 They_Live
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"Our lines are very busy at the moment, please hold and an operator will deal with your call as soon as possible..."

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 09:47 | 2231723 XitSam
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*click*

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 10:23 | 2231846 Max Hunter
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dial tone.... Rut Roh

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 09:35 | 2231687 GMadScientist
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" It is believed that some 60% of Germany’s gold was stored outside of Germany and much of it in the Federal Reserve Bank of New York."

Fixt.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 09:50 | 2231731 francis_sawyer
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Yeah ~ "Mr. Wilson" was holding it for them until "Dennis the Menace" came along...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKGuO1O8rew

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 10:27 | 2231865 youngman
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I bet they politley ask for it back...

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 20:24 | 2275346 fleur de lis
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Well that's the end of that gold.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 09:36 | 2231688 francis_sawyer
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Don't forget to bring a hacksaw...

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 09:37 | 2231695 GeneMarchbanks
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'Jim Rickards has outlined possible plans by the Federal Reserve to commandeer Germany’s and all foreign depositors of sovereign gold at the New York Federal Reserve in the event of a dollar and monetary crisis leading to intensified “currency wars” and the ‘nuclear option’ of a drastic upward revision of the price of gold and a return to a quasi gold standard is contemplated by embattled central banks to prevent debt deflation.'

It's only tradition. If Germany can never see that gold again, how is it German gold?

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 10:12 | 2231811 trav7777
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the Fed has likely already commandeered it to lease into the forward market.  Nobody really knows who has the claim tickets for this gold nor how many times it may have been sold.  I mean, shit, it's STILL THERE, ain't it?  So let's lease/sell it again!  Keep doing that until it disappears or something.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 10:31 | 2231876 redpill
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Possession is 9/10ths of the law, right?

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 11:50 | 2232219 MachoMan
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Exactly.  And, I'm confident that there is a paper claim out there, somewhere that gives plausible deniability to the FED keeping it...  or, alternatively, a fucked up chain of title sufficient to allow the FED to keep it.  Probably where they got the idea to blow up the mortgage market...

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 11:53 | 2232235 prole
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For Au I think it's 10/10ths.  At least that is what a guy named Hugo told me.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 14:19 | 2232866 _underscore
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This is final confirmation for me; the most bullish news about gold's place in the hierarchy of worth you can imagine.

So, The US can 'declare' some sort of currency stability 'event' & commandeer any gold holdings - no matter who or what country owns it? ? That's an incredible statement to be in the public domain.

Forget about the silly charts & short/long positions/manipulations etc. etc. now - that's all noise & nonsense - the real news is about the desperate Germans trying to nuance their gold

back from off-country locations & the US PTB saying "whoaa.. slow down Hans.. we may have other plans for it..."

 

 

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 09:38 | 2231697 LongSoupLine
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Hey, I just saw Bernanke in Ace Hardware buying up all the cans of gold paint in inventory.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 10:53 | 2231971 Treason Season
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And I thought Benny was lying when he said he did his own shopping! Whoodathunkit

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 09:39 | 2231700 Everybodys All ...
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Better hope JP Morgan isn't a counter party.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 10:19 | 2231839 rufusbird
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No they just, well...er...umm....how should I say this....they just borrowed it...they are trying to locate it at the present time and we are highly confident that they will be very dilligent in their attempts to locate it....

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 11:00 | 2231993 Doña K
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There is a good scientific reason sometimes: It's called evaporation.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 11:41 | 2232176 Arthor Bearing
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It's called a fortified warehouse in Singapore

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 09:39 | 2231701 Lost Wages
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Yo Germans! Why y'all care about some barbaric relic? Just print some Euroze bitchez!

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 09:40 | 2231702 Moneyswirth
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Friggin Krauts.  They never trust anyone...

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 14:20 | 2232872 silverbullion
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Why should they?

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 09:40 | 2231704 unrulian
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too late i got the last one

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 09:41 | 2231708 JustObserving
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The US has 100,000 troops in Germany.  As long as the troops stay in Germany, the gold stays in New York.

Besides, the greenback is real money - the most powerful military in the world says so.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 10:00 | 2231767 Cast Iron Skillet
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wonder when the troops in the most powerful military in the world will begin kindly requesting their pay in gold.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 13:00 | 2232556 Zero Debt
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Once they have to demand that, they aren't

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 10:15 | 2231823 trav7777
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well, the number is presently about half that, but the point still stands.  A lot of the installations there are scheduled to close in the next few years.  It's amazing if you think about it, we've got 50k troops and like several dozen military facilities in a sovereign, foreign nation.  It'd be incomprehensible to Murkins to be occupied like that.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 11:52 | 2232233 MachoMan
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I agree that we wouldn't take too kindly to that, but if we lose at our grab for world domination, commit countless crimes against humanity, get conquered by a foreign military, AND agree to the occupation, then the whole thing seems a bit different...

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 20:27 | 2275357 fleur de lis
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We haven't had real money since 1913.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 09:43 | 2231712 Lost Wages
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Gib mir meine Wolfram.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 10:09 | 2231802 eaglefalcon
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Schade, wir koennen Ihr Gold leide nicht finden.  Den ganzen Hort hat man wegen eines Umfalls in den Rhein versenkt.  Moechten Sie Banknoten?

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 10:19 | 2231837 Shylockracy
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Judenfetzen aus Frankfurt? Nein Danke.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 11:43 | 2232189 Arthor Bearing
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--------thoughtcrriiiiimmmee--------

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 12:04 | 2232291 Bam_Man
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Sehr komisch.

Manchmal freue ich mich das ich ein bischen Deutsch kenne!

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 09:44 | 2231716 mantrid
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> Germany to Review Bundesbank Gold Reserves

NY Fed has long ago swapped them for spam. You know, spam is editble and stuff...

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 09:48 | 2231724 Sutton
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Germans, it ain't there.  Be prepared for a "payment-in-kind."

A note with Ben and Obongo's picture on it.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 09:57 | 2231756 WonderDawg
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That's as good as money, sir. Those are IOUs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GSXbgfKFWg

 

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 09:50 | 2231732 israhole
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Just wait to see what happens to gold prices when nations start reporting their metal was stolen long ago.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 09:50 | 2231734 Loan Gunman
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So, approximately 1.8 thousand tons at the N.Y. Fed.  Can't make that up by stealing gold from Lybia or somewhere.  

 

Auditing your gold...what a novel concept.

 

Repatriation now.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 09:52 | 2231735 Shylockracy
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Germany will never repatriate any gold.  Firstly there is no gold, only bookkeeping entries.

In the very unlikely case any German government considered repatriation, these paper certificates would trasnmutate into dust, and there would be nothing the Germans could do about it.

The partners in crime and evil twins Buba and FED have to keep the smoke and mirrors that the gold is there, and that it could be retrieved if need be. The whole thing is however a farce.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 10:15 | 2231819 Bastiat
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Oh there IS gold--the question is who has it.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 10:21 | 2231841 Shylockracy
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Point taken.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 09:51 | 2231736 EL INDIO
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The Chavez tradition, Bitchez

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 09:52 | 2231740 XitSam
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Hugo Chavez made his gold repatriation public. I wonder how many private requests have been made?

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 11:22 | 2232096 margaris
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Yes, also there is a rumour that chavez made his repatriation public AFTER he had already recieved all his gold.

He was talking his book...

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 09:53 | 2231746 edmondantes
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maybe they can take ipads instead?  at least you can eat those you know...

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 09:54 | 2231750 Gordon Marock
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They've stolen me gold!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 09:54 | 2231751 Sgt. Oddball
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Might be a good idea for Zee Germans to check their inventory for some of those bars that have the surprise Tungsten filling, not that they will ever even see their gold because we all know that the response to any country that demands their gold is the liberation of their oppressed people.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 10:29 | 2231870 noses
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Wait... Tungsten? Is the shortage of Tungsten the reason light bulbs are forbidden all over Europe for some time now?

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 09:57 | 2231759 spentCartridge
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Who has the gold anyway? Fort Knox/fed is supposed to be empty or full of tungsten fakes, a la China, Hugo has his, Gordon sold UKs, NATO stole the colonels etc. and now Jerry wants their stash repatriating. Why isn't it in Germany to start with? 

Somebody somewhere has got a lot of gold that ain't theirs to be had.

The paramount question in my mind is, why?

 

 

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 11:25 | 2232120 margaris
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private banks hold most gold of the world.

So the question is: who owns the private banks?

 

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 09:59 | 2231764 gookempucky
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That gold vaporized at the TT collapse along with all paper---except the passports.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 10:00 | 2231765 firstdivision
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....aaaaaand the end game begins.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 10:00 | 2231766 Lucius Corneliu...
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This just tells me that Deutschland is preparing to leave the Euro.  Can't say I blame them.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 20:46 | 2275405 fleur de lis
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I hope you're right. If they walk out that means that the whole rotten EU fake money structure will collapse. 

Go Deutschland!

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 10:00 | 2231772 Benjamin Glutton
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Gold Hündinnen!!!

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 10:03 | 2231776 Bay of Pigs
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"Hey Larry, where did we put that German gold again?"

Bob Rubin

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 12:16 | 2232332 Bam_Man
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That was Moe speaking, not Rubin.

"Ein tragischer Boot fahrender Unfall."

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 10:03 | 2231777 BandGap
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Is this a stupid question - why the f*ck is Germany storing their gold in the United States?

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 13:11 | 2231824 Shylockracy
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Well, for starters, Germany lost a world war 67 years ago and had its government abolished after surrender. After 4 years without a government, the allies "recommended" the establishment of governments in the Western as well in the Eastern occupation zones.

During the so-called Cold War, under the pretext that the russians could take over the gold in case they took a stroll down the Fulda gap, German gold reserves were safely stored in Rothschild owned or related vaults in Paris, London and New York.

German surplus exports could thus be rehypotecated ad infinitum for the great satisfaction of high finance cliques all the while giving credibility to the dollar gold-exchange system until 1971, and the naked dollar-fiat system since then. Pax Americana, if you will.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 20:31 | 2275369 fleur de lis
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Nothing with the name Rothschild is safe. They are natural born thieves.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 10:17 | 2231832 Bastiat
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Actually, during the cold war it probably made some sense.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 11:48 | 2232211 gabeh73
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right, as if FDR, Rockefellers and Rothchilds disliked Stalin and didn't promote marxist economics every chance they could get...I see what you are doing there...pretending the cold war was real.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 12:14 | 2232327 Shylockracy
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It is interesting to note that the Eurodollar market was created in the City of London to settle grain exports from the US to the USSR.

The bankers love a contrived war or rivalry for that's when margins soar.

If there was a true cold war, wouldn't the US Gov simply tell the russians to grow their own bread? Of course that would mean a lot less fat cats in the military industrial complex in the West as well. Moreover, why on earth has the US government recognized then supported and then allied itself with the communist revolutionaries in Russia if not for high finance's unbreakable tribal bonds?

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 20:39 | 2275384 fleur de lis
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At the very top there is no such thing as government, that's just a cover to distract us into thinking we have leaders who work in the interest of us and whatever our country of origin. 

They planned World War One in the 1890's and during the roaring 20's when everybody else was snookered into thinking the war was over and good times were back they were busy planning the second bloodletting since they made so much money on the first one.

They turn wars on and off like a faucet. It's the only way they know how to make money. They are walking talking roaches.

My apologies to six-legged roaches everywhere.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 10:04 | 2231778 youngman
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Not only audit it to find out where it is....but how many times it has been leased out...I think this a smart move....

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 10:06 | 2231789 Don Diego
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New York is with London the capital of the Tribe, they will never allow that gold to return to Germany....they will serve themselves and keep it as "war reparations".

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 10:09 | 2231799 Lucius Corneliu...
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If the Germans want it back they will get it.  If they are refused there will be a crisis of confidence that will shock the markets.  I think the Germans have way more leverage than the USA.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 10:50 | 2231954 Shylockracy
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German citizens have near zero leverage with their Federal Government, and the German Government has less autonomy vis-a-vis the US Federal Government than a US state like California.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 10:15 | 2231821 gaoptimize
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In a better, parallel universe:

" US lawmakers are to review Federal Reserve and Treasury controls of and management of US gold reserves.  A joint senate and house committee will assess the management America's gold bullion bars that are believed to be stored in Fort Knox KY, the Federal Reserve Bank of New York and other undisclosed locations, according to Bloomberg.  The GAO has criticised the Feds lax auditing and inventory controls regarding the world's largest official gold reserves – more than 8,000 tonnes of gold. There is increasing nervousness amongst the American public, politicians, and indeed the Federal Reserve itself regarding the gigantic risk on the balance sheet of America's central bank and this is leading some to voice concerns about the location and exact amount of America's gold reserves. The US central bank system is massively imbalanced after the Fed's balance sheet surged to over 3 trillion dollars caused by repeated assett purchases following the 2008 financial crisis. The concern is that were the US dollar to collapse, Fed losses could be more than a trillion dollars, triggering instability in the bond market that would make funding the world's largest deficits impossible. In that scenario, the US national patrimony of gold bullion reserves would be needed to support the currency – whether that be a new gold-backed dollar or participation in some global currency.  The US lawmakers are following the lead of US Presidential candidate Ron Paul who has long called for an audit of the US’ gold reserves."

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 10:17 | 2231833 Idiocracy
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Jim Rickards on debt and gold, "It looks like 1919"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0b2bEY8_iw&feature=related

 

 

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 10:25 | 2231855 The Reich
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... and we want our gold back stolen by the US after WWII.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 10:31 | 2231878 pleseus
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So Gold does have value.  I just thought it was a short term trading vehicle.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 10:34 | 2231891 HurricaneSeason
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Long tungsten.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 10:37 | 2231904 maneco
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It makes one wonder why loads of countries keep their gold reserves with the Fed and BoE. I thought gold was supposed to be a barbaric relic? Methinks the gold is kept in London and NY so that the BoE and the FED can use it to manipulate the price of gold.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 10:40 | 2231917 Badabing
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How soon we forget!

From 2009 http://gata.org/node/7713

The Deutsche Bundesbank can withdraw gold from its holdings with foreign central banks at any time. The Bundesbank’s gold is stored in the form of individually identifiable bars. “probably packed with tungsten”

From 2009 http://www.numismaster.com/ta/numis/Article.jsp?ad=article&ArticleId=7113

Germany calling for gold reserves to be shipped back home.
Such a request could put the U.S. government on the spot, as there is some concern that the German gold reserves are no longer intact. Some or all of it may have been distributed to the public as part of gold price suppression schemes.

From 2910 http://maxkeiser.com/2010/10/16/currency-war-germany-about-to-lose-66-of-its-gold-reserves/

Germany about to lose 66% of its Gold reserves

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 10:45 | 2231927 Gunga
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- Hey Fed, this is Bundesbank, you gotta bunch of our gold and we need it back for this Deutschmark thingy we're restarting.

- Says who ? gold ?

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 10:50 | 2231960 digalert
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I can see it now...

CONgressional hearing:

So, let's get this straight, 1,200 tonnes of German gold has disappeared from New York banks?

Yes

OK, fair enough, let's move along to the next item on the agenda...

 

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 12:03 | 2232279 prole
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"..I yield the floor to the honorable Chairman Corzine."

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 11:03 | 2232006 fredquimby
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".....and the ‘nuclear option’ of a drastic upward revision of the price of gold with the unleashing of freegold"  

fixt

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 11:09 | 2232029 Benjamin Glutton
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uhmm...no sir, I'm being told the correct technical term is vaporized.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 11:23 | 2232109 HurricaneSeason
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3396 tons sounds like a lot of money, but it really isn't. Government gold, when it actually is sold, sells for $42 an ounce. That's only $4 billion dollars. With taxes, storage fees, shipping and insurance, we can send them $1 billion in treasury bonds. The amount we print before lunch each day.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 11:51 | 2232221 gabeh73
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I'm sure the NY fed is making that offer as we speak...I wonder why the germans don't want to make that trade...sounds fair enough.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 11:44 | 2232196 apberusdisvet
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What's the German word for "vaporized"?

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 13:45 | 2232734 margaris
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(in nichts) aufgelöst.

 

or

 

verdamm(pf)t !!

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 11:44 | 2232198 apberusdisvet
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What's the German word for "vaporized"?

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 12:04 | 2232280 eddiebe
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Another terrorist attack on the gold repository in NY looms.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 12:10 | 2232316 Bam_Man
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How many boxes of donuts do you think that Fed security guard consumes in a normal day on the job?

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 12:42 | 2232493 EmileLargo
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That information is classified.

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 12:57 | 2232542 Zero Debt
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We need a caption contest to find out

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 12:41 | 2232492 EmileLargo
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Buffett will recommend to the Germans that they start collecting sea shells instead. What's the point of getting a large metal cube that can be fondled but doesn't produce anything?

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 16:54 | 2233467 Big Ben
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If there is one lesson from US history it is: DO NOT let the US government hold your gold for you!

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 17:28 | 2233604 casper007
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 lol maybe Obama can do a few TV commercials  ----- CASH fo GOLD !

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 03:20 | 2235091 cnhedge
Thu, 03/08/2012 - 07:09 | 2235284 Vlad Tepid
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It may not be the US gov't's call to pull a 'nuclear option' of keeping the gold and issuing a new currency as Rickards mused...Germany simply requesting it all might be the catalyst that necessitates such a move on the broke-ass powerbrokers in NY/DC.

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