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Germany Wants New European Constitution: "There Are New Centers Of Power In The World."

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Germany wants to "reignite a debate over creating an EU constitution", Reuters reports, "to strengthen the bloc's ability to fight off financial troubles and counter-balance the rising influence of emerging economies". Guido Westerwelle noted that Germany EU leaders "need a new constitution... as there are new centers of power in the world." A key change that Germany wants for instance is an amendment to incorporate tighter regional oversight of government spending and allow the EU court of Justice to strike down Spain's a member's laws if they violated fiscal discipline. Here comes the 'Pro-Quo' to the Greek Bailout 'Quid'!

Reuters: Germany wants new debate on EU constitution: minister

(Reuters) - Germany wants to reignite a debate over creating an EU constitution to strengthen the bloc's ability to fight off financial troubles and counter-balance the rising influence of emerging economies, Germany's foreign minister said on Friday.




"We have to open a new chapter in European politics," Westerwelle told reporters on the sidelines of a meeting of EU foreign ministers in Copenhagen. "We need more efficient decision structures."




"I think we have to reopen the debate about a European constitution again," he said. "We have a good treaty, but we need a constitution ... There are new centers of power in the world."


German government sources said representatives of several EU member states would likely meet in the next few weeks for talks.


Driven by public frustration over financial bailouts for debt-stricken states, Germany has fought hard over the last year to amend the EU's Lisbon Treaty, a watered-down version of the 2005 constitution proposal.


German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble had said in November that his country wanted to see changes to the EU's Lisbon Treaty by the end of 2012 in order to lay the foundation for a common fiscal policy in the bloc.


Germany argued that change was needed to enshrine tougher fiscal discipline and safeguard the bloc from further financial troubles.


For example, it wanted an amendment to incorporate tighter regional oversight of government spending and allow the European Court of Justice to strike down a member's laws if they violated fiscal discipline.


But Britain vetoed the plan in December in a row over safeguards for its financial sector. 



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Fri, 03/09/2012 - 17:18 | 2241348 Ahmeexnal
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someone should put that sow down

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 17:21 | 2241369 spiral_eyes
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deutschland uber alles? deutschland unter alles? it doesn't really matter.

goldman sachs, goldman sachs, uber alles.

in better news:

nassim taleb endorses ron paul 

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 17:29 | 2241395 hedgeless_horseman
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"We need more efficient decision structures."

Like a central treasury and....

.....wait for it.......


Fri, 03/09/2012 - 17:33 | 2241439 Manthong
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It just keeps getting better and better..

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 17:40 | 2241467 hedgeless_horseman
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"We have a good treaty, but we need a constitution keep gutting it to screw the people and protect the banks...but we promise we will probably not gut a constitution in the very same way...for at least a little while...because we have changed...really...this time will be different...we promise."

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 18:17 | 2241580 smlbizman
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i feel another episode of that awesome hitler clip from that movie in 5...4...3...2

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 18:32 | 2241622 Temporalist
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Merkel was taken out of context and it was poorly translated. Here is a better clip of her speaking to the Greeks in plain English:

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 19:24 | 2241749 Dugald
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Ja! Ein Volke ein Reich, ein Bank, ja mein Führer werden wir gewinnen ..... endlich

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 20:08 | 2241869 Harbanger
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Keine Sorge, alles läuft nach Plan geht.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 21:43 | 2242107 i-dog
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Indeed. Europe's 14th Amendment coming up next. Bye-bye powers of the states.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 17:44 | 2241483 battle axe
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"Take the Panzers and Stukas out of storage, the Fourth Riech has finally come." Christ, that kind of thinking has never worked out for the Germans.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 18:13 | 2241572 The Reich
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Hope dies last!

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 02:13 | 2242633 Ahmeexnal
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Last time it ended with the Prussian Nights.

Will the greeks do the same?

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 19:06 | 2241708 JR
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But it sure has worked out well for the international bankers.

In his acceptance of the Nobel Prize for Literature in 1970, Solzhenitsyn quoted a Russian proverb that summarized his creed:

"One word of truth shall outweigh the whole world."

He may have despised Soviet communist rule, but he came to loathe the West's "smug hedonism" as well and the revised history spewed by it's media propaganda machine. Of course, America's controlled media lost no time in portraying him as "bigoted."

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 20:47 | 2241957 Reese Bobby
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Would you expect a Christian have use for either?

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 11:47 | 2243051 4horse
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but nobel was only the beginning . . .
smug hedonism being the least of it


and most certainly not why he's long since  l o s   d e s p a r a c e i d o s . . .
e r a s e d


T h e  B a n k
as you no doubt know


T H E  B A N K

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 11:21 | 2243025 4horse
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German . . . ?

. . . that kind of thinking has never worked out for the Germans.


cause, WWI WWII, this is as much german as the fed is american

rothschild.oppenheimer.schiff.warburg . . .


Whatever Works

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 22:03 | 2242158 CharlieBitMe
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 "There Are New Centers Of Power In The World." ... like Berlin. Where have we heard that one before. No Maginot line this time unfortunately.

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 13:09 | 2243152 Greyhat
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Anti-German bullshit. We try to protect our rightly owned wealth. No more, not less.

The greeks had their party on credit, now its their bill, so what?

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 16:15 | 2243527 Ahmeexnal
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You had your wars on credit. Then refused to pay the bill. And now you come in as a fucking high priest of rectitude and demand of the greeks to do something you would never consent to were it applied to you?

"rightly owned wealth" you claim? Why don't you spell it out truthfully? "WRONGLY STOLEN WEALTH".

Same as it has ever been.  People never change.

Once again you are at your same sociopathic global domination game.

This time, the whole world will put you down, wherever you might hide.

Even the rocks will cry out: "everyone come, there is a kraut hiding under me!"


Sat, 03/10/2012 - 20:01 | 2243902 Greyhat
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Get a therapy and get a life.

All that heartland wars stuff was an anglosaxon game. We were just the unlucky ones beiing born into the border area.

If you deal in history you better read into the history of Bethlehem Steel for instance and then go diving into their ammu in the Lusitania wreck and check out who creditet the L&L deal. Learn to follow the money.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 18:15 | 2241576 Atlantis Consigliore
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more like Springtime....the jokes on us and our Obummer

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 18:20 | 2241590 Nussi34
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This will be interesting. In order to hand over more powers to the EUSSR, Germany needs to changhe or abolish its own constitution. For that kind of change they need a referendum.... I guess the Germans are really keen to share their wallets with PIIGS...

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 20:34 | 2241920 Harbanger
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It's like 60+ years old already. I'm surprised it lasted this long.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 18:38 | 2241625 SWRichmond
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"goldman sachs, goldman sachs, uber alles."

Die Bankerlied (to the tune of "Die Panzerlied")

Whether it's bulls or bears

Whether the Fed shines on us

SPY's burning hot

Or TNX freezing cold

Drawn are our faces
But happy we are at Goldman
We're at Goldman
Our bonus roars ahead
Along with the storm wind

With smoldering computers

Fast as a backbone trade

The enemy engaging
With our frontrunning Supplemental Liquidity Providers

Come on comrades
In the battle, all alone
We stand all alone

That's how we make profit

With our Congress, our Regulators, and our White House

When an enemy short

Appears ahead of us
Full liquidity is given
And we close with the foe
What value then is their trade
To the owners of our nation
Yes owners of our nation
For to game Wall Street
Is the bankers' highest honour

With bond vigilantees

The enemy blocks our path
We laugh about it
And simply ignore them
And if we are threatened by investigations
Coming from the Internet
From the Internet
We find ourselves a dark pool
That no one else found

And if we are abandoned
By that unfaithful trade

And if we don't return
To the Hamptons again
If a dollar run strikes us down
If margin calls upon us
Yes margin calls upon us
Then for us the bank will be
An honorable grave

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 02:42 | 2242689 Grey-Ghost
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Apropos "deutschland uber alles?" = Hitler had Leni Riefenstahl:

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 17:38 | 2241465 bank guy in Brussels
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We are close to the end of Merkelism and this German EU-supervision nonsense. The revolt is already underway; Ambrose Evans-Pritchard in the UK Telegraph is describing it pretty well.

We are past 'Peak EU' which was perhaps 2010 or so. With the Spanish revolt and others about to join, including likely France after Hollande wins the upcoming election, Merkelism will soon be finished.

They have temporarily pushed this thing onto the Greeks because the Greeks feel vulnerable in that far corner, so close to all the sh*t going on in the Middle East and Asia.

But it won't work in Western Europe, where the people-in-the-street revolutionary spirit will back rebellious governments. The anti-EU sentiment is building here in the Low Countries too.

The EU will become more as Nigel Farage sees it - a trade etc. association, not a violation-of-sovereignty machine.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 17:52 | 2241516 reload
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Lets hope you are right. But those fuckers in Brussels at the EU commission building will hang on to the bitter end, without a care for the chaos that their inept dream of political utopia continues to cause for the vast majority of Europeans.

And Speaking of Farage - he is on tour in the UK holding open political meetings. Something NO other political party does here. I went to one last night, capacity crowd, lots of curious attendees as well as the faithful. I think he is just getting into his stride, but most people here still dont know who he is. 

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 22:35 | 2242231 i-dog
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UKIP should run short clips of some of his classic demolitions of Barroso and Rumpelstiltskin in the European parliament as paid advertisements.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 18:03 | 2241548 Spacemoose
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greece is merely this era's spanish civil war ...

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 18:34 | 2241634 NotApplicable
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I don't think you're thinking this through far enough.

The revolt is the next part of the drama to ensure the EU will never disband.

Without this reaction, then how can they react in order to save it all?

As always, it's just Hegel's one-page playbook.

The dissolution of the EU is no more likely than one attempted in the US 150 years ago.

Why? Because centralized power cannot survive intact in a decentralized environment. TPTB simply must maintain it, else they lose their raison d'etre.

As I'm sure you're well aware, there is nothing "new" about the proposed constitution. It's the same form of enslavement they've been trying to dupe people into accepting for years. So look what they did instead, they've bankrupted everyone in yet another form of mutually assured destruction, so that there are no voices strong enough to resist.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 19:16 | 2241732 Die Weiße Rose
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go Angela Merkel !

 fuck off Ahmeexnal 

back into your padded cell...


Sat, 03/10/2012 - 12:22 | 2243075 4horse
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and this would accomplish . . .

out of the stye, aim higher


not at -His Impness. This Bzozowitch- merkozy


but, sow down, how The BigPig in its filthy londontown

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 17:18 | 2241349 GiantVampireSqu...
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"All your rights are belong to us"

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 18:39 | 2241647 illyia
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Squid, seems like an apt quote to drop this into. Sorry if this is an imposition. Very interesting read.

'Europaische Wirtschaftsgemeinschaft'

Use this engine...

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 12:20 | 2243102 4horse
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thesquid pro quo maneuver is feudal

not futile


and, having done it before- Europe -as their collective, are effectively doing it again


next: us last bastion, West v East


Fri, 03/09/2012 - 21:00 | 2242010 Harbanger
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Isn't that true of any list of rights "given" by any Govt?  How about a list of rights Govts can't "take" away from us?   that's the essence of the US Constitution and it's incompatible with socialism.

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 12:17 | 2243095 Kobe Beef
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Except when a socialist Activist Judiciary decides it can "interpret" the meaning of a "living document" and just make shit up as they choose.

Except when a socialist President decides he can execute whomever he chooses.

Except when a socialist Attorney General decides he can investigate/prosecute according to his political affiliations rather than the law itself.

Yeah except for those exceptions it's pretty incompatible with socialism. I sure wish we had a Constitution.

Nah, fuck it. 1,000 Americans with cans of gasoline marching down K-Street is far more effective than some 200-year-old piece of parchment anyway.

Lighters for Liberty!


Fri, 03/09/2012 - 17:19 | 2241353 bugs_
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one center to rule them all

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 17:23 | 2241384 SheepDog-One
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And they said for years 'the new world order' was just fevered hallucinations of madmen conspiracy kooks.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 17:33 | 2241442 Moneyswirth
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No NWO here.  Just a fiscal, if not physical, annexation of a formerly sovereign colony, er, nation. 

Nothing to see here....

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 17:37 | 2241461 SheepDog-One
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Fri, 03/09/2012 - 18:24 | 2241606 optimator
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And the same thing in clearer wording call the "Protocols" of one hundred years ago all coming together and happening.  No forgery there.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 18:35 | 2241638 NotApplicable
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Funny how that forgery is more accurate than the utterings of those who claim otherwise.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 17:31 | 2241397 SMG
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Fri, 03/09/2012 - 17:20 | 2241359 Fidel Sarcastro
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Lemme guess: MillionDollarFuckTard loves this idea.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 17:33 | 2241441 brewing
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he'll be along shortly...

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 17:47 | 2241496 Tortfeasor
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He's been gone for months.  Happy trails.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 17:20 | 2241361 treemagnet
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Theres a new sheriff in town.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 20:56 | 2241996 UP Forester
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Nottingham?  Why not?

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 17:20 | 2241362 It is a bargin ...
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"Come closer..I have a plan"

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 17:20 | 2241363 Bartanist
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There is no new history ... only history that we do not know. (forget who said that... but it has probably been said many times)

You have "free will" and "reason". Maybe it would be a good time to brush off the controls and oil the gears in anticipation of needing it.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 17:48 | 2241498 macholatte
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The only thing we learn from history is that we do not learn.
-- Earl Warren

That men do not learn very much from history is the most important of all
the lessons that history has to teach.
-- Aldous Huxley

We learn from history that we do not learn from history.
-- Georg Hegel

HISTORY: Papa Hegel he say that all we learn from history is that we learn
nothing from history. I know people who can't even learn from what happened
this morning. Hegel must have been taking the long view.
-- Chad C. Mulligan, "The Hipcrime Vocab"


Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

       - George Santayana



History doesn't repeat itself, but it rhymes.
        - Mark Twain


History is a lie agreed upon.
        - Napoleon Bonaparte



History is written by the victors.
Winston Churchill



Sat, 03/10/2012 - 14:11 | 2243292 4horse
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as if he knew and/or acted otherwise . . .


gore vidal, who at least knows more about am.politics than al, sub rosa, has a story about first informing jfk about how harry here's whistlestop campaign was paid for . . . which the whole world has not yet/and is still paying for


What history and experience teach us is this, that people have never learned from history nor acted on principles deduced from it


Fri, 03/09/2012 - 17:21 | 2241367 SheepDog-One
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LOL I love the strike-thrus.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 17:22 | 2241372 Byte Me
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Must be an election year somewhere..

Good luck w that Angela.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 17:23 | 2241374 Moneyswirth
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A Center Of Power to last a thousand years!

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 17:45 | 2241485 5880
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Greece was their Gleiwitz Incident

They now have their excuse to invade.......

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 17:23 | 2241375 ffart
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Merkel: It is with great reluctance that I have agreed to this calling. I love democracy. I love the Republic. Once this crisis has abated, I will lay down the powers you have given me! 

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 17:32 | 2241437 adr
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This is how liberty dies, with thunderous applause...

Wonder how high the Galactic Empire's stock market got under Palpatine???

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 18:07 | 2241556 Miss Expectations
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George Lucas on his hero:

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 17:23 | 2241377 earleflorida
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i always said,... them's fuck`naif limey turd drops will give ya indigestion 

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 17:25 | 2241385 Agent P
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I'll tip my hat to that.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 17:24 | 2241387 SheepDog-One
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Zee 4th Reich.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 17:24 | 2241388 UGrev
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... I smell war...

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 08:37 | 2242887 g speed
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WW III    is this the black swan evert that NO ONE could have forseen?

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 17:24 | 2241389 Dr. Engali
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Merkel accomplishing that which Hitler couldn't. Absorbing all of Europe without firing a shot.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 18:07 | 2241561 centerline
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Or just pacifying the German public.  Lip service.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 18:43 | 2241660 NotApplicable
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But only after Europe had absorbed Germany. (a.k.a. "Why Hitler was setup to fail.")

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 00:25 | 2242480 palmereldritch
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Just the most recent iteration of the Globalist Banksters' Blitzgreed

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 17:25 | 2241398 1835jackson
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Danger Wil Robsinson, danger! Now shut your mouth a do what your told!

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 17:26 | 2241400 GoldRulesPaperDrools
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Deutchland, Deutchland uber alles ....

And people thought Merkel was in trouble ... she will be Queen Of Europe (without a King).  She doesn't need any Waffen SS to do her dirty work, just German bankers ...

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 17:29 | 2241413 agent default
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What do you call the ECB/IMF/Troika then?

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 17:27 | 2241403 Stuck on Zero
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Egads.  Not one government in Europe ran its own rating agency?  You don't need to meedle in the affairs of another state.  Simply downgrade them and cut off their flow of money.  Scheeesh.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 17:27 | 2241404 Ignatius J Reilly
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We want control over how you spend our money.  Germany to the rest of the EU.

Anyone here in  the US jealous?

I'm just thinking about Harrisburg PA defaulting, the Alabama state-of-the-art sewage treatment plant, and the entire state of CA.


Just me?

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 17:27 | 2241409 agent default
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This is Anschluss on steroids.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 17:37 | 2241419 ACP
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Berlin...ja...Berlin...die Mitte der WELT! Alle Feinden fallen, BITCHENZ!

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 17:59 | 2241421 adr
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Why fight a war with bullets when you can just fight with paper money and win. Hitler should have made friends with a couple Jewish bankers instead of throwing them in ovens. God, the Euro currency was a lot easier and millions didn't have to die. Took about the same time as well.

Meanwhile at the Legion of Doom:

Bank of America has decided to writedown $100k or more of the mortgage balance for around 200k borrowers. The only loans that are eligible are those BofA still holds on its books. 90% of which are Jumbo Loans from Countrywide. These loans are mostly in CA, Washington DC area, and other high value markets. Any loans sold to Fannie or Freddie will not be eligible for the program. BofA will also set aside $1 billion to pay off HUD for the mortgage abuses. Borrowers who think they were abused will need to contact HUD to be eligible for assistance.

FANTASTIC!!!! Rich fucks who got sweetheart Countrywide deals get writedowns and HUD gets $1 billion to squander on itself.


Fri, 03/09/2012 - 17:30 | 2241424 jcaz
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....And Germany rolls into Poland.... Er, I mean Greece.....

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 17:53 | 2241526 RobD
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Monetary Blitzkrieg bitchez

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 17:31 | 2241431 stant
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feure frei freken biatchez

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 17:31 | 2241432 azzhatter
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maybe we can get Herman Von Rumpboy to run the thing

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 17:38 | 2241440 Zero Govt
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the cracks become canyons

the unity becomes dummies, rattles and toys outta the pram

A unified Europe could only come about if every European was Jean-Claude Trichet (ie. an idealogical brain-dead Eurocrat) was never meant to be nor ever bloody likely (even in the best of times, let alone the worst)

Next demand: Germany wants their Gold back: from Paris; from London; from New York (cough, splutter, choke)

According to BILD Magazine the German Federal Bank should audit its (foreign) Gold deposits every 3 years but hasn't since 2007, a clear breach of its duties and of Federal Law... is there anything the crones (village idiots) in central banks do properly?!!

I predict a riot (or food fight) at Davos 2013

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 17:38 | 2241452 q99x2
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Guess she got word that the US Congress is taking back its military through impeachment clarifications to be made to Obama.

New Centers of Power. What are you under the gun.

Lady you better get your NWO straight before you get in front of an audience. Take a look at how well it did in Europe, Argentina, the US. Not something someone would promote willingly.

The bankers have made themselves enemies of the World and there ain't no NWO fantasy going to help them.

And, the people are going to take their money back from the Morgans, the Rockefellers, the Harimanns and so on.

Well maybe. We shall see.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 18:18 | 2241583 agent default
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The people do not need to take their money back.  They just have to stop using bankster fiat and then watch who goes bankrupt. Overnight.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 17:36 | 2241456 Schmuck Raker
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Spain says there has been some misunderstanding with Brussels on budget

- expects statement on Monday from Euro-Area finance ministers

via RanSquawk

You just can't make this shit up.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 17:45 | 2241486 treemagnet
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....I'd like what they're having....

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 17:36 | 2241460 tekhneek
Fri, 03/09/2012 - 17:37 | 2241463 MrSteve
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Leave it to the Celts to know when to say no to the Teutons. This contest has been going on since before there was written history in northern Europe. People have not changed much at all in those few thousands of years and their cultural heritage serves as a long term memory.

The English will not be controlled by the Germans. Two world wars fought in Europe are the proof. With wars having names like Thirty Years War and Hundred Years War, control has definitely been a bloody serious issue Over There.

From the American point of view, a federal system in Europe would be wonderful as it would take only a few decades for the central government to completely gum up the works with regulations, a la Washington, DC and K Street, etc. Europe could then have parity with the USA.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 18:52 | 2241675 NotApplicable
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The English have been controlled by the Germans since King George.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 22:56 | 2242281 i-dog
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+1 (You beat me to it).

And prior to that, they were controlled by the papists. In fact, George's family right up to Betty Windsor (the Guelphs) are also crypto-papists. Same song, different melody.

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 15:23 | 2242828 Wolferl
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Most likely the Teutons were Celts. And the English, aka Angles were Germans. Enough said to destroy your stupid Celtic - German war meme. And btw, today´s Germans have celtic roots too.

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 13:15 | 2243168 AnAnonymous
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The English are Germans.

I guess you missed the apartheid event imposed on the Celts from 500 to 1066 by the Saxons.

It resulted in what is called English to be Germans, not Celts.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 17:42 | 2241478 Reptil
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Any European "Constitution" will replace the existing souverign ones? If so, they better come up with something that's equally well thought of and constructed, and not some sad collection of trade agreements, and undefined doublespeak crap about killing citizens "when needed".


Fri, 03/09/2012 - 18:22 | 2241597 agent default
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In some European countries such a change would require a referendum, like in France for instance.  I don't see anyone voting if favor of anything EU in Europe right now.  Not happening.  Unless they want a breakup of the EU. 

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 18:57 | 2241686 NotApplicable
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I'd say is all that it will take is a "Restricted Default" declaration. At that point the only referendum is "Do you want to starve to death, or not?"

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 19:37 | 2241787 agent default
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Why would you starve to death?  A few difficult years maybe but lets face it.  There was life before the EU and there was life before the Euro.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 23:07 | 2242310 i-dog
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You are right but, unfortunately, you forget who controls the propaganda machine. A short, full-spectrum propaganda blitz would have the sheep bleating thanks for the EU having saved them from certain death at the hands of <insert bogeyman here>! It's how they roll.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 21:05 | 2242025 UP Forester
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WTF good is a different Constitution going to do?

All governments ignore anything that gets in their way anyhoo, so it doesn't really matter.


Except to create a new class of "extremists" that actually want the government to follow the law.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 17:52 | 2241505 John Wilmot
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Germany doesn't want a new constitution. The rulers of the EU want a new constitution; they are completing what they started, building a European superstate, which has been the goal for a century or more. "Germany" (read: the banker shills who make up Germany's government) is just playing the role assigned it by the bankers upstairs. Same with the rest of them. The nation v. nation deathmatch that's endlessly discussed in the press and regurgitated by the ignorati is just propaganda, distraction, cover-up, justification, etc. Like the Rep-Dem farce in the U.S.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 18:08 | 2241562 Angus195
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I agree completely.  This was LYHOP without a doubt.  The true "masters" 'behind the curtain' knew full well that when these EU Countries, like Greece, Ireland, Italy, etc .. that if they were to give up their respective printing presses, that they would over borrow and 'create' a debt crisis.  They exacerbate the problem by extending more and more credit (causing most to wonder WTF) and allow the 'crisis' to 'fester' just long enough to generate a moderate panic. When it just about seems to be coming apart, they wheel out what they wanted all along.  Classic Hegelian Dialectic operation.  The US is next.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 18:58 | 2241689 NotApplicable
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Maybe Japan first?

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 19:11 | 2241718 Angus195
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Fri, 03/09/2012 - 23:47 | 2242368 i-dog
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+1. Explain, indeed. Japan is already firmly within the "Trilateral" fold. An emperor that the people "love" and a single-party government that changes frontman every few months (but never rocks the Trilateral boat). If anything ever got out of control in Japan, they'd simply wheel out the emperor to pacify the flock. (That's why TPTB deliberately kept the "evil" Hirohito there after WWII and went hell-for-leather to rebuild Japan's industry).

Don't expect any anti-NWO action to come from Japan ... just expect other NWO fiefdoms (EU and US) to "catch up" to its 200% debt-to-GDP.

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 10:01 | 2242939 Angus195
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Fri, 03/09/2012 - 22:49 | 2242270 John Wilmot
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"Hegelian Dialectic"


Fri, 03/09/2012 - 17:52 | 2241514 slewie the pi-rat
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thanks angela!

don't you just love it when the pols get in front of all those fuking flash bulbs and start up with shit that no one in his right mind would ever pass at this point

even for targets  #3, & #4! 

but the german voters will suck this down like mama's morning milque!  L0L!!!  i hope they don't throw up on me!

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 17:51 | 2241515 dognamedabu
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 I sit here watching(with ZH help indeed) and just shake my head in amazement. It should be obvious except to those not paying attention at all that this has been one long big game being played. These 'crats have designed an incredibly sophisticated scheme to control what they deem as theirs. It doesn't take much to imagine what the future holds for all if they don't get dragged out of their castles and get eliminated from the 'game' 

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 19:55 | 2241828 dognamedabu
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Jump from a plane.. Calms ya down



Fri, 03/09/2012 - 17:58 | 2241537 digalert
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It's like changing the rules in the middle of the game. I call foul, I want to see how this game of goofball ends.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 18:01 | 2241542 WilliamShatner
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New World Order, bitchez!

Prepare to be assimilated, resistance is futile!

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 23:52 | 2242415 i-dog
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Resistance is getting out of debt and refusing to pay illegal taxes. As a sovereign, you don't owe anything to another [fictitious] sovereign unless you deliberately contract into it.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 18:41 | 2241650 dognamedabu
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Thanks for the links..Let me add one

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 00:40 | 2242434 i-dog
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+1 for the link to Lennie.

-1 to the BlackholeBrainspace for his jingoistic nonsense.

Interesting that his very first link shows FDR claiming that Germany sinking supply ships on their way to Britain constituted an attempt to invade the US!! Obomber with spectacles ... LOL !! They're so cocky that they don't even bother changing the script in 100 years (Woodrow Wilson used the same play with the Lusitania).

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 04:35 | 2242776 BlackholeDivestment
BlackholeDivestment's picture, you got the point of, ...uh hum, order, to some degree. Lol.


Sat, 03/10/2012 - 04:51 | 2242779 i-dog
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Ahhh ... my bad, as they say, for missing your point. However, I still object to the crime being pinned on the Germans [again] when the plans are actually hatched much further south [again].

Shame on the Germans, though, for being the patsies [again].

In fairness, I've reversed your score.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 18:37 | 2241642 marcusfenix
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''Three Rings for the Elven-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Men doomed to die,
One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne,
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie,
One ring to rule them all, one ring to find them,
One ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.''

there are no new "centers of power in the world", just the same old ones from whence evil, greed and darkness flows, waiting to ensnare a new generation of blind pawns, sick psychopaths and greed driven delusional fools and bend them to it's will. ultimately they will follow the same ruinous path of destruction as those who came before, spreading misery, war, pain and death along the way.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 18:49 | 2241657 JR
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It’s come down to this: wise political observers wait for genuine positions from a government and not those of individual members of a coalition government, especially because some statements are made to test reaction and not to provide official positions. Also, Reuters is proven to be the bankers’ mouthpiece.

It’s misleading here to use a picture of Chancellor Merkel with positions taken by Guido Westerwelle; we are not hearing here from the government, we are hearing Westerwelle’s views.

Coalition government are different from our form of government in that, in America, when a member of the administration speaks he speaks in one voice. What an executive branch member says reflects on Obama, and if Obama either doesn’t fire the spokesman or disagree with him, it becomes his position. But coalitions, such as in Israel, France and Germany, represent different political parties that may be totally at odds. When the Bundestag comes up with something and its voted on, that is the German position. And if Merkel, as chancellor, says something, that’s the German position. But when Westerwelle speaks, it's his position and not necessarily the government's.

In that Westerwelle’s picture was not used by ZH, a few lines taken from internet sources of who he is might help.

…German Foreign Minister Westerwelle says "A nuclear-armed Iran must be prevented."

…Contacts with the Jewish community and exchanges with representatives of the main American Jewish organizations were the focus of Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle's trip to New York from December 10 to 12, 2011.

…German foreign minister Guido Westerwelle (German UN rep) announced that Berlin will skip the United Nations' Durban anti – racism conference, with an eye toward anti-Israel remarks by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad at the 2009.

…German FM Guido Westerwelle has stated that he is ashamed of the fact that German diplomats were helping Nazis carry out Holocaust... In 2010, the Foreign Ministry released a report prepared for Westerwelle called The Ministry and the Past, which alleged the ministry's collusion with the Nazis. Westerwelle said the report "shamed" the institution.

On July 20, 2004, Westerwelle attended Angela Merkel's 50th birthday party accompanied by his husband, Michael Mronz, thereby tacitly acknowledging that he is gay. It was the first time he had attended an official event with his husband. The couple registered their partnership  on September 17, 2010 in a private ceremony in Bonn..

.....By May 2011 Westerwelle’s party had collapsed in several states, including Rhineland-Palatinate and Bremen where they failed to secure the 5% threshold to be seated in parliament. Westerwelle then stepped down as party leader. By July the party was only receiving 3% support in opinion polls, a record low, reflecting what political insiders had called his "last stand" in January, comparing Westerwelle and his party to Captain Ahab and the Pequod.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 19:55 | 2241826 Wolferl
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Very good comment.


I´m sure the guy posting under "Tyler Durden" today is very well aware of this. It´s pure anti EU propaganda. I really like to know who is behind these biased articles here and what´s his/her/there agenda.

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 01:44 | 2242619 Mary Wilbur
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It isn't anti EU propaganda, it's Euroscepticism. The cause is the fact that the EU is antidemocratic, and has embarked on a policy of ever increasing assault on the sovereignity of the European nations to their detriment. Not everyone is a German or wants to be. All of the nation states want to live peaceably together but not all of them want to be assimilated into something far different from their local political and economic system, and ruled by unelected elites and their bureaucrats.

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 06:06 | 2242804 Wolferl
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So if a nation state inside the EU doesn´t want to be part of the EU he´s free to leave anytime. And every EU official is elected in a democratic way. People like you show their lack of democratic thinking by claiming the EU is undemocratic. The EU/EC was invented by the French, the British and the US in the first place not by the Germans. Now we have it, and it´s just natural and democratic that 80 million Germans play a major role in the EU. Like i said, if you don´t like that, try to convince a majority in your country to leave the EU. If you are not able to do that you better accept the EU.

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 07:45 | 2242854 AnAnonymous
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There is no exit mechanics in the EU. You are in for life.

Follow a bit, this has been publicized quite a bit.

As to being democratic, well, very hard.

Democratically speaking, an elected representative has no more power than deleguated.

Elected can not vote themselves extension of power.

The EU construction process is riddled with representatives defining their own prerogatives.

Even better, treaty of Lisboa, has made it legal for elected to define their own areas of authority.

Without counting the times referenda were superceded.


More kicking the can by US citizens.

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 10:05 | 2242944 Wolferl
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Sorry, but there IS an exit mechanism. Read Art. 50 of the EU treaty. Or read this:

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 12:55 | 2243139 AnAnonymous
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That's true.

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 04:44 | 2242447 i-dog
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Guido Westerwelle ... Bilderberg attendee, 2007.

Angela Merkel ... Bilderberg attendee, 2005 and 2011.

From Wiki, FWIW: "Critics inside and outside the FDP have accused [Westerwelle] of focusing on public relations, as opposed to developing and promoting sound public policy".

Just another politician who will say whatever he thinks he needs to say to hide the true agenda.

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 07:39 | 2242849 AnAnonymous
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It’s come down to this: wise political observers wait for genuine positions from a government and not those of individual members of a coalition government, especially because some statements are made to test reaction and not to provide official positions. Also, Reuters is proven to be the bankers’ mouthpiece.

It’s misleading here to use a picture of Chancellor Merkel with positions taken by Guido Westerwelle; we are not hearing here from the government, we are hearing Westerwelle’s views.

Really? Because Merkel did not take similar positions before?

On the contrary, what is pictured here is a picture of unity.

Still have to wait for any weighting voice of dissent calling all the machines stop.

More kicking the can...

Apparently, for whatever reason, on this site, a large number has the biggest trouble to admit the obvious, that the IndoEuropeans named the Germans are behind the scene.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 18:52 | 2241673 monopoly
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I love the "mistakes" made in Tyler's posts. Just a simple black line speaks louder and tells more than you can imagine.  Well done.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 18:56 | 2241679 falak pema
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For Europe to exist as an independent political entity it has to decouple totally with Pax Americana. It has to build a new model which means it has to establish common objectives and common means. A united states of Europe will take time. A process of convergence has to be put in place. But the most vital issue in this process is to have an OPEN debate and make central parliamentray process the deciding framework. Not technocratic, faceless bureaucracies. Its time to move towards a meaningful parliament with elected leaders; for a core group of European countries to show the way. 

Germany and France, Italy and Benelux as always, the core to this process. But with the backing of the people. Or it will never be accepted. 

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 20:15 | 2241881 JR
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A United States of Europe already exists; the trouble is, it doesn’t work.  Ask the people to vote on a united government and they’ll turn it down in a second. So there won’t be legitimate support for this unification. The American system is failing because it did not follow its Founders’ desire for federalism - the division of power where states could check the tyranny of a central government.

Surely, the experience of the Euro Zone with the current impoverishment of the people exposes the reality that unless the power of the banks is greatly reduced, a central government, even one created by the people, would be commandeered by the banks.

BTW, what kind of imagination could see the development of Europe without the corrosive influence of the United States and its Federal Reserve Bank?

Ruinous loans already have created an unnatural world ruled by the parasitic banks. Are we not to fight the noose of this mammoth power circling our necks?

Economic union among nations precedes political union which is the final transition to world union. That is what NAFTA and the European Union are all about.

Trilateral Commission founder Zbigniew Kazimierz Brezinski actually stated his position of the overall plan in 1970 in Between Two Ages which called for a temporary “attainable” goal of a “community of nations” in place of the desired long-range goal of “world government.”

His philosophy was that gathering already existing unions into one-central world governing body is more practical than attempting to subjugate more than 150 independent nations one at a time.

Financing debt by inflation destroys sound money and institutes slavery - the current traceable route to creation of a world currency and world governance.

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 01:31 | 2242601 Mary Wilbur
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The idea for creating a Federal Reserve Bank was imported from Europe by a German banker immigrant to the US -- Paul Warburg. The European countries all had central banks. There was interest in Congress for reforming the banking system. Warburg used his position to influence it. I believe he was on the first Federal Reserve Board. (The Warburgs,  by Ron Chernow.)

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 02:26 | 2242670 Sandmann
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The Panic of 1907 was the last and most severe of the bank panics that plagued the National Banking Era of the United States. Severe panics also happened in 1873, 1884, 1890, and 1893, although numerous other smaller financial crises cropped up from time to time. Bank panics were characterized by the widespread appearance of bank runs, attempts by depositors to simultaneously withdraw their deposits from the banking system. Because banks did not (and still do not) keep a 100% reserve against deposits, it paid to be near the front of the line of depositors demanding their money when a panic blew up. What sets 1907 apart from earlier panics was that the crisis focused on the trusts companies in New York City. The National Banking Era lasted from 1863 to 1914, when Congress, in part to eliminate these recurring panics, created the Federal Reserve System.

October 16, 1907, when F. Augustus Heinze's scheme to corner the stock of United Copper Company failed. Although United Copper was only a moderately important firm, the collapse of Heinze's scheme, exposed an intricate network of interlocking directorates across banks, brokerage houses, and trust companies in New York City. Contemporary observers like O.M.W. Sprague (1910) believed that the discovery of the close associations between bankers and stockbrokers seriously raised the anxiety of already nervous depositors.

During the National Banking Era the New York money market faced seasonal variations in interest rates and liquidity resulting from the transportation of crops from the interior of the United States to New York and then to Europe. The outflow of capital necessary to finance crop shipments from the Midwest to the East Coast in September or October usually left the New York City money market squeezed for cash. As a result, short-term interest rates in New York City were prone to spike upward in autumn. Seasonal increases in economic activity were not matched by an increase in the money supply because existing domestic monetary structures tended to make the money supply "inelastic." Usually gold would flow into the United States from Europe in response to the high seasonal interest rates, increasing the monetary base of the United States and easing the liquidity squeeze somewhat.

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 04:15 | 2242766 AnAnonymous
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The American system is failing because it did not follow its Founders’ desire for federalism - the division of power where states could check the tyranny of a central government.


Made me laugh.

If indeed the US People thought it was such a failure, they would not struggle that hard to maintain the status quo.

Clearly, there are too many US citizens, not enough Indians so more or more US citizens will lose their entitlements (turning them de facto into non US citizens by the way, so 'America' will keep working)

But US citizens living in the US do not feel the US unique experiment is failing.

And the United States of Europa will be by popular will of US citizen Indo Europeans living in Europe.

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 04:11 | 2242761 AnAnonymous
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For Europe to exist as an independent political entity it has to decouple totally with Pax Americana. It has to build a new model which means it has to establish common objectives and common means.


Made me laugh. Very can kicking.

On the contrary, US citizens Indo Europeans are on the path followed by their cousins living in the Americas.

They'll play the playbook. The US citizen playbook.

US citizenism is such a quasi certain thing that one can announce right now the next step.

The United States of America blobbing up with the United States of Europa.

Certainly not decoupling.

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 10:19 | 2242925 falak pema
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the future is not written in concrete and tipping moments are when civilizations change course. I would keep my eye on the ball; what we see today is a phase of decomposition. Whether it begets a Renaissance, or a decline of civilization is still to be seen. 

But change is coming big time. Europe like all first world entities, nation states or continental states; like USA/Russia/China even India/Brazil, will have to rethink their roles. To match the emergence of the individual cultures and networking forces which traverse the continental divides, a bit like the corporates do today as transnationals. Who can say how these new families and social networks will interface and define the new norms of the coming age; one thing is sure tomorrow will be very different to today, as today is heading to the wall and begs for a NEW type of tomorrow. And when I say that continental cultures may have to emerge my point is that these NEW political constructs will have to cohabit with the socio-economic reality of these new social networks. Because the economic, cultural and therefore political power of these new social networks will be OMINOUS. Wake up to new Internet and social networking age of political dimensions.

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 13:13 | 2243162 AnAnonymous
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Currently, they think how to maintain/increase their role.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 19:15 | 2241729 samsara
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Gee,  I don't know,  I remember the last time a German Leader said that.....

 Nicht so gut

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 19:45 | 2241796 The Gooch
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Are Merkel and Napolitano seperated siamese-twins? They sure are handsome lads.

Music for a new world order-

Happy Friday, fight club.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 20:00 | 2241850 oggershughes
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Hold on a sec, you Germans tried it 72 years ago and here you are having another go. Sod you and all the bankers who control you! We want to be free as Irishmen, Englishmen, Frenchmen etc al ad finitum. Enough is enough Merkel. The game is up. We know what is happening here. The fourth reich is here as described in the Council of Rome documents from the early seventies where you enunciated the policy for control of all Europe through Fraud and anything that would fit the bill. Domination through integration. I, for one am completely fed up being a victim of the Eurocratic central banking cartel whose only aim is to impoverish all Europeans in the new empire. This is the concept that most Europeans don't get..Empires have always rules the world, the difference these days is that you don't need chariots and archers, all you need is those who control the money supply and control the media to convince the sheeple that Austerity is good and it's all your fault. This has got to be the biggest scam ever perpetrated on the human race. Wake the frack up and realise that this is old school rape and pillage in Gucci suits without the astounding architecture. Greed is greed and always will be and, as usual, it's us "Peasants" who pay for it all.

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 20:27 | 2241904 JR
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Unless the German people are allowed an up or down vote on their positions in the euro zone,  then stop blaming the German people for the policies of the Jewish bankers. Germany's convoluted coalition party system no more produces political leadership than it reflects the true feeling of the German people anymore than the American political system reflects what Americans feel.

BTW, these continued, disgusting, irrelevant references to a war more than 70 years ago appear to be the only theme that the Zionists can possibly think of. Might it benefit current populations to concentrate more on how Zionism is beating the drum for new wars? 

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 07:49 | 2242857 AnAnonymous
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Can kicking.

The Germans support the policy.

Merkel enjoyed largest support from Germans since reelection in 2009.

The northern crusades were also Jewish work?

Be real.

The Germans are behind the curtains. Has been that way for a long time now.

Who is behind England and the empire on which the Sun never sets?
German people

Who is behind the US and global US citizen empire? German people.

Kicking the can is national US citizen sports but still...

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 20:19 | 2241891 Bagbalm
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Another 1,000 year Reich...

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 22:12 | 2242177 boiltherich
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Not just a fourth reich but one that will fund it's rearmament with US/IMF dollars even as it makes secret treaties with the Russians for gas and oil and coal and probably for replacement of NATO with a new Warsaw Pact. 

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 22:22 | 2242206 HeavydutyMexica...
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the more things change......the more they look the same

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 00:00 | 2242429 holdbuysell
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Inch by inch...coming soon to North America.

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 02:12 | 2242646 nah
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let the clowns have a parade

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 02:22 | 2242661 Sandmann
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Guido Westerwelle is a complete yo-yo who was recently told by Lukashenko, the Byelorussian Dictator "It is better to be a dictator than gay" and to shut up. Germany's foreign minister was removed as boss of the FDP in Merkel's Coalition and his party is dead meat. They think they need a directly elected President in EU to make us feel happy like Americans but Germany does not even have a directly-elected President because it is frightened.

Germany does not have a Constitution. It has a Basic Law imposed by Britain, France, USA in 1949 with Art 146 supposedly giving German Voters the ability to decide a New Constitution when the country re-unified. Germans have NEVER been allowed to vote on their own constitution even when Germany unified in 1990,


Westerwelle is a complete flake. They are trying to dissolve Germany into the European Union because the German political and media elites hate Germany as a country and Germans as a people.

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 03:00 | 2242708 obelisks
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when are they going to vote this old hag out of office?

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 04:07 | 2242760 AnAnonymous
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to strengthen the bloc's ability to fight off financial troubles and counter-balance the rising influence of emerging economies


Made me laugh.

Ah, US citizens who failed to understand what blobbing up means,well, they just have to look at the EU and read EU managers like Merkel.

Ah, the Euro should fail. Europeans were not aiming at blobbing up, an impossible to comprehend lingo.

It is funny how US citizens usually do not talk about what they do.

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 07:52 | 2242855 q99x2
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To Merkel and her clansmen.

Read my anti-NWO lips lady. You are a fucking lier. You know you work for the bankers, the Rothschilds, the Morgans, the Harrimans, the Bushs and Rockefellers NWO.

The US has a constitution and prostitutes like you, the bribed political class, are creating alphabet soup Nazi scum agencies to make certain that it isn't enforceable.

What you really want is war, death, starvation because that is all you know how to do. Inflict your good will on the people and when it doesn't work the way plan you force it and force it until you can't even recognize what it was that you wanted or were trying to accomplish.

That's because it wasn't your plan. It is the NWO's plan to take over and cleanse the earth of their competition.

Democracy and Referrendum are two words you'll never understand. Ideas have no morality except within the individual that you seek to destroy. You are an embarassment to life itself.

Please help make things better by stepping down.

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