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The Global Diabetes Tsunami... And Why America Actually Has It Good

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Lately there has been a flurry of media reports focusing on America's obesity epidemic, and how costs associated with America's gradual shift to a fat society will inundate the already strapped budget in the form of shadow taxation and other direct and indirect costs, which are, to put it simply, unsustainable. As the first chart below shows, the primary cost center associated with the obese conditions - diabetes - has certainly gripped a substantial portion of the US population, at last count affecting at least 10% of the population. Yet as chart #2 shows, America, with its $23.7 million diabetes cases, actually has it good. Because when compared to countries without a social safety net, such as China and India, the US diabetes problem is child's play. With 90 million diabetes cases in China, and 61.3 million in India, or nearly half of the total 346 million worldwide diabetes cases, perhaps it is time for the developing world to worry how they plan on funding the billions of associated costs, as they assimilate more and more of the worst American habits. Because as the International Diabetes Foundation says, "In developing countries, the looming costs in human lives, healthcare expenditure and lost productivity threatens to undo recent economic gains." However since all of this is in "the future" what's the point of worrying about it now...

American diabetes is bad...

...But not nearly as bad as what is happening in the "developing" world. Whoops:

Finally, from the International Diabetes Foundation, here are the facts:

The number of people living with, and dying of, diabetes across the world is shocking: 90 million Chinese live with diabetes and 1.3 million died in 2011;23% of Qatari adults have developed diabetes.


  • Type 2 diabetes accounts for almost 90% of all cases of diabetes in adults worldwide. In general, as countries become richer, people eat a more sugar- and fat-rich diet and are less physical active — and the incidence of diabetes rises. On average, nearly 8% of adults living in high-income countries (see map for country classification) have diabetes. It is, however, upper-middle and middle-income countries that have the highest prevalence of diabetes; over 10% of adults in these countries have the condition.
  • In high-income countries, diabetes primarily afflicts people over 50 years of age. But in middle-income countries, the highest prevalence is in younger people — the most productive age groups. As these people age, and as life expectancies increase, prevalence in older age groups will rise further. This trend will put a huge burden on healthcare systems and governments.
  • The mortality rate of diabetes varies sharply with the prosperity of the country. In 2011, the disease caused more than 3.5 million deaths in middle-income countries, of which more than 1 million were in China and just less than a million were in India. Approximately 1.2 adults die of a diabetes-associated illness per 1,000 cases in 2011 in low- and middle-income countries: more than double the mortality rate of high-income countries. Mortality rates are much lower in high-income countries with the greater healthcare recourses, but those tolls are still high: approximately 180,000 people died in the United States in 2011, for example.
  • Unsurprisingly, high-income countries spent vastly more on diabetes-related costs in 2011 than lower-income countries. In developing countries, the looming costs in human lives, healthcare expenditure and lost productivity threatens to undo recent economic gains.


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Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:10 | 2447588 the not so migh...
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Corn syrup is good for you.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:20 | 2447646 john39
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so are the lab engineered stealth pathogens that the NWO has been spreading around the world for decades...  that modern medicine just can't neem to get a grip on  (cash cows)...  all hail the NWO.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:33 | 2447693 Gully Foyle
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And you are the reason for this

Red Tape Hobbles a Harvest of Life-Saving Rice

Vitamin A deficiency affects the immune system, leading to illness and frequently to blindness. It probably causes more deaths than malaria, HIV or tuberculosis, killing as many people every single day as the Fukushima tsunami. It can be solved by eating green vegetables and meat, but for many poor Asians, who can afford only rice, that remains an impossible dream. To deal with the problem, “biofortification” with genetically modified food plants is 1/10th as costly as dietary supplements.

“Golden rice”—with two extra genes to make beta-carotene, the raw material for vitamin A—was a technical triumph, identical to ordinary rice except in color. Painstaking negotiations led to companies waiving their patent rights so the plant could be grown and regrown free by anybody.

Yet today, 14 years later, it still has not been licensed to growers anywhere in the world. The reason is regulatory red tape deliberately imposed to appease the opponents of genetic modification, which Adrian Dubock, head of the golden rice project, describes as “a witch-hunt for suspected theoretical environmental problems…[because] many activist NGOs thought that genetically engineered crops should be opposed as part of their anti-globalization agenda.”

It is surprising to find that an effective solution to the problem consistently rated by experts as the poor world’s highest priority has been stubbornly opposed by so many pressure groups supposedly acting on behalf of the poor.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:50 | 2447788 pods
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Beta carotene is but one of the over 600 different known carotenoids.  Studies have actually shown that beta carotene supplementation is detrimental to health.  For peoples who have no intake of the carotenoids this rice may show some benefit, but more than likely us simple humans will see this as the "savoir" again and go along with a poor diet.

And of course we can toss in some good old propaganda, like milk for strong bones and teeth.  Of course the calcium balance is negative with milk due to the acidity load of consuming it, and studies show INCREASED fractures with increased milk consumption, but you cannot let the data get into the way of a good story.


Mon, 05/21/2012 - 14:59 | 2448406 MisterMousePotato
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Dr. Joel Fuhrman (Eat to Live) has a persuasive explanation for the phenomenon of vitamin A supplementation actually being detrimental to health. His book is actually a compelling read, and the first to ever make me reconsider rib eye steaks as a good source of protein without the "Oh, the poor cows or chickens or the dead zone at the mouth of the Mississippi River" thing.

As to diabetes, consider that it is one of the most expensive diseases to 'treat' (here in the U.S.), and that Mexicans have rates of diabetes several times higher than whites, and current demographic trends (here in the U.S.) and, well, hm.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 15:24 | 2448514 pods
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Most of my desire for information relating to nutrition is due to Dr. Fuhrman.

We have most of his books (not latest, eat for health yet) as well as his DVD lectures.  
Oh, and the Vitamix too. 


Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:50 | 2447793 ThirdWorldDude
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You're so full of Monsanto s#@t!


If Golden Rice "with two extra genes" was supposed to exist, Nature would've created it... Genetically messing with Nature's ways is cutting the branch you're sitting on.


If you want to help those poor people, then send them carrot seeds!

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:54 | 2447812 Xkwisetly Paneful
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Jesusfuckingchrist is he so full of shit.

Lets go back to 1/12th the yield per acre so I can hear about peak food from the brainless drones.

Remember? Circa 1990 the world was supposed to run out of food and now largely thanks to those who the imbeciles despise the world is getting obese.

Damn how is that these people are so full of shit?

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 12:09 | 2447874 ThirdWorldDude
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Enjoy your GMO meal fucker, and go back to duty flying over Chigaco!

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 12:33 | 2447958 fourchan
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japanese and meditrainian diets ftw!

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 17:29 | 2448911 kekekekekekeke
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lol took me a sec

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 13:22 | 2448098 Grinder74
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How about you try to expand your vocabulary and pick on a more "peaceful" religion with your vulgarity: something like

"Mohammedfuckingprophet is he so full of shit."

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:51 | 2447800 Xkwisetly Paneful
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A calorie is a calorie.

I love reading anything to the contrary that access to calories and sedentary lifestyle are the underlying causes.

Twinkies. Nutty bars. Powdered donuts.

For 10 weeks, Mark Haub, a professor of human nutrition at Kansas State University, ate one of these sugary cakelets every three hours, instead of meals. To add variety in his steady stream of Hostess and Little Debbie snacks, Haub munched on Doritos chips, sugary cereals and Oreos, too.

His premise: That in weight loss, pure calorie counting is what matters most -- not the nutritional value of the food.

The premise held up: On his "convenience store diet," he shed 27 pounds in two months.




Oh but processed food is evil lets go back to 1649, down with all mass producers of food products.

Down with genetically altered food, fuck the chickens.  If H1N1 reached a flock of chickens 15yrs ago hundreds of millions of chickens would be slaughtered as H1N1 spreads very quickly,

of course thanks to genetic alterations-it largely no longer spreads throughout the flock.

But who cares? these people are evil, lets go back to the era or famines and pandemics.








Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:57 | 2447829 pods
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Yeah, but have him keep eating that diet for 5 years to see how beneficial it is to his health.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 12:09 | 2447877 Gully Foyle
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Because you chose not to read the link.

Haub's "bad" cholesterol, or LDL, dropped 20 percent and his "good" cholesterol, or HDL, increased by 20 percent. He reduced the level of triglycerides, which are a form of fat, by 39 percent.

"That's where the head scratching comes," Haub said. "What does that mean? Does that mean I'm healthier? Or does it mean how we define health from a biology standpoint, that we're missing something?"

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 12:18 | 2447915 pods
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Gully, because you chose not to read my post.

So health is now defined by 3 measurable attributes over a period of 10 weeks?  He lost 27 pounds, his body was burning off fat.  No shit his triglycerides would fall.

I use many metrics to view what we call "health" and I can assure you, a long term diet of twinkies, crackers, and cookies is a death sentence.

Any easy way to judge how healthy a diet is is to use this Dr. Fuhrman equation:

Health= Nutrients/Calories.

Sure, they gave the a caveat in the story.  But 95% of the dingos that read the story or headline will be comforted in the diet that they want to eat.

We as americans, and I would go further and say most westerners, will go to great lengths to prove that the diet they prefer is healthy.

And see, I can use bold too.



Mon, 05/21/2012 - 12:28 | 2447942 Xkwisetly Paneful
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Obesity is not only the health epidemic in the first world it is also the topic of this article.

The main cause is access to calories and sedentary lifestyle. 

Has zero, zippo, nada to do with what those calories are composed of which is the point.

These threads invariably contain inaccurate information that if people just ate healthier foods with the same caloric intake that they largely would not be obese and that is false.

but given the diet and nutrition is massive huge money, I wouldn't expect this myth to be shattered in the public realm anytime soon.


Is living off twinkies unhealthy? of course but not because they in and of themselves cause obesity. Any unbalanced diet is unhealthy but a balanced diet of equal caloric intake will still result in obesity which is the current first world health epidemic.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 12:34 | 2447959 Spastica Rex
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I don't think you've really supported your weirdly angry contentions. Watch your blood pressure, chief.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 12:49 | 2447997 pods
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Heathly whole food does not have the same caloric density as heavily processed, calorie laden food.  Along with calories, it contains phytochemicals, soluble and insoluble fiber, minerals, etc.

So it is almost impossible to overeat when you are eating a healthy diet.  I am not saying vegetarian, vegan, organic or any other buzzword.

When you eat a diet that has the bulk of the calories is obtained from whole vegetables, fruits, and nuts and seeds, you almost cannot overeat.

Our overeating is due to the malnutrition that is rampant in society today.  Yes, I said malnutrition.  Your body craves nutrients.  When you do not supply them, you body will desire more food in an attempt to get the nutrients that it needs.  The vast majority of americans are deficient in many major nutrients, and no doubt deficient in many yet unrecognized nutrients.

The second reason is due to the catabolic processes that our body undertakes when we are not digesting food.  The processing of toxins makes you feel terrible.  Of course, we all call that hunger, but it is not really hunger.  Fasting is a way to allow your body to process all the toxins and clean your system. Your body does not process toxins when it is busy digesting food.

So as soon as your body starts to process toxins and heal, we feel like shit and grab something to make us feel better.  That is food, and it is an addictive behaviour.

You do make a good point with the supplement and diet industry being mainly destructive to health.  Today we believe that a pill and a twisting of data that allows us to eat how we want to eat is the way to achieve health, which today is seen as not being fat.



Mon, 05/21/2012 - 14:27 | 2448327 ElvisDog
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When you eat a diet that has the bulk of the calories is obtained from whole vegetables, fruits, and nuts and seeds

Who wants to eat only only vegetables, fruits, nuts, seeds? Yuck. Reminds me of some people I know who love to post about their quinoa-based dinners. They don't mention that quinoa tastes like bird seed. And the jury is still out on whether vegan/vege-only diets are even good for you. Read James Howard Kunstler blog archives for a summary of what was happening to his body under a strict vegan diet.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 14:54 | 2448411 pods
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Then keep eating how you want and search for evidence that it is healthy.  Seems that is what most people do.  Find evidence that reinforces your preferred eating palate.

It really does not matter to me what you do.

A diet high in nutrients obtained from a whole food diet where no more than 5-10% of calories are obtained from animal products virtually guarantees you to be cancer, heart disease, and other chronic disease free.

If there was a pill that stated that, the creator would be the richest man alive.

BTW, vegans can be just as unhealthy as meat only, carb only, or anyone else. There is nothing special about veganism.  It is about nutrients, not labels.



Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:58 | 2447839 john39
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why don't we just eat soylent green then?  /sarc off

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 12:03 | 2447860 CPL
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But I think most people would start to feel a bit sick of the Swedish berry and Beef jerky nightly.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 12:36 | 2447963 dolly madison
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I've experomented enough to know that you are wrong.  A calorie is not just a calorie.  When I eat that crap I gain ridiculous amounts of weight.

Besides that appetite is important.  The crap stimulates appetite.  It means nothing that one man can endure the diet he did. 

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 14:17 | 2448278 grok
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Read Gary Taube's Good Calories, Bad Calories.


and btw, there is nothing wrong with fat inandofitself.  My diet consists of probably 30% fat and my bloodwork is magnificent.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 12:20 | 2447923 fnordfnordfnord
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Send them some carrot seeds. It's no surprise to me that Asians are suspiscious of Monsanto et al.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 19:01 | 2449113 zuuuueri
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a technical triumph indeed- a triumph of a technology of death and destruction.

Sorry mate, this is not quite the shining example you might have been looking for if you wanted to point out red tape killing off some new development. These GMOs from monsanto and pals are some of the purest concentrated evil you will find on this planet today. Not only because of the legal trojan horse they represent, not only because of the orwellian methods of enforcement of 'intellectual property', but also even more fundamentally, through shortsighted pollution of the gene pools of the species tampered with and the disruption of whole ecosystems where they are planted.

Of course, we have a long history of making shortsighted and destructive moves because they were profitable to a handful of people at the time. This does not in any way make it a good idea.

Moreover, genetic tampering is truly the gift that keeps on giving - long long after the original profits have been eaten and forgotten, long after the very civilization that brought them about is gone and forgotten, still the consequences remain. Your children will curse your name and your miserable desperation for a few extra bucks, struggling to live in the world you left them, and it will be just that much worse with these kind of crops.



Tue, 05/22/2012 - 06:13 | 2450169 cnhedge1
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Are concerns over a Greek Euro exit overdone ?

Is the Euro area Credibly on Target?

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:21 | 2447649 ZackAttack
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It's also great that every ear of corn grown in the US is genetically identical.

What could go wrong?

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:37 | 2447717 Abitdodgie
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I had type 2 , it takes about 30 days to get rid of it if you sort your diet out , I no longer have it , it really is a no brainer .

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:52 | 2447801 pods
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Yep, diet alone can remediate Type II diabetes. It is a chronic disease of malnutrition.


Mon, 05/21/2012 - 13:36 | 2448137 BooMushroom
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And as any American can tell you, there are many people who would rather pay for insulin and inject themselves in the stomach, than give up twinkies and Doritos.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 15:29 | 2448539 Miffed Microbio...
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You're correct but exercise can enhance the effect. Some hard core card and weight lifting has been shown to make cells more receptive to insulin therefore you need less.


Mon, 05/21/2012 - 17:32 | 2448920 kekekekekekeke
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good for you!


in this movie they reversed type 1 and type 2 diabetes by altering diet

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 12:01 | 2447820 CPL
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Mess with mother nature and she takes her pound of flesh by making better bugs to eat the toxins.  Something as simple as a potato bug or a cricket has sixteen reproductive cycles as a speices in a single season.  Or to put it in perspective, in a single human lifetime of 65 years, both "simple" bugs will have 3100 reproductive cycles to work out the annoyances the hairy bipeds throw at them.


Since we've got everything from super flus that are completely resistant to anything medical science can throw at them, we now have super bugs that are starting to target our food and fuel (corn, potatoes, sugar beets).  Fantastic stuff.  Maybe if Evolution was accepted and counted as a wild card varible in the development of the business plans we wouldn't be in the situation we are now.  It's surprising how many of the dolts on the PhD level don't even acknowledge that mother nature will shit on their GM veggie projects.


Mon, 05/21/2012 - 16:06 | 2448655 Matt
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Yeah, maybe having 95% of a crop being genetically identical is a bad thing, ya think?

Is there any liability for Monsanto if a blight or something wipes out all crops using their seeds as a result of lack of variety?

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 12:01 | 2447842 Xkwisetly Paneful
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Yea she makes better bugs! That's why slaughter due to the spread of infection amongst livestock is near zero because mother nature makes better bugs.

It is so scary, solve one problem and another arises, so I guess that means that famine is preferable.

Terrible idea, who wants the perfect vegetable everytime?

Not me, I want the farmers to depend on mother nature's randomness.

Really and truly, I want to go back nothing yields per acre and uneven results at that.

Because genetically altered food is evil!

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 12:06 | 2447868 Saro
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It depends on whether the genetic manipulation is a smart missile, targeted to a specific gene that they want to express, or a carpet-bombing approach (using poison) that they continue until the wheat grown from the mutated seeds displays the characteristics that they want it to (as alleged by William Davis).

Sure, they eventually got their RoundUp resistance in wheat, but what other changes did the uncontrolled mutations cause?  Since they can't possibly know, the only reasonable thing to do is to shove as much of it down our gullet as possible, right?


Mon, 05/21/2012 - 12:30 | 2447949 CPL
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It will go back that direction whether the human race wants to or not.  We have billionaires attempting to get into space to mine rocks (whatever...lolololol) while back here on earth all countries are hitting that energy wall hard.

- Going backwards in time to attempt some change...won't happen until the last drop is pulled and people are stuck without options.

- My there aren't enough consumption taxes...why not have a sixth that changes a damn thing.  At least the tax is only in worthless paper.



Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:25 | 2447661 hedgehog9999
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Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:31 | 2447686 LowProfile
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Just sayin'...

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:44 | 2447757 ProtectiveFather
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Did you not look up once as you typed that? Wowzers.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 12:39 | 2447973 viahj
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I bet that they did but then said "fuck, I'm not retyping all of that!"

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:33 | 2447674 onelight
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Is this because we have exported our gmo-enriched food paradigm to them?

Subprime food and all the rest...another derivative fiasco foisted on the world...oh and don't forget the cancer sticks, they were all in great need of that too..

...more I listen, the more I hear the words of George Carlin echoing The Planet is Fine, it's the people...

His comments against environmentalism are bombastic, but his point seems really to be about human arrogance.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:35 | 2447697 Gully Foyle
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And you are the reason for this

Red Tape Hobbles a Harvest of Life-Saving Rice

Vitamin A deficiency affects the immune system, leading to illness and frequently to blindness. It probably causes more deaths than malaria, HIV or tuberculosis, killing as many people every single day as the Fukushima tsunami. It can be solved by eating green vegetables and meat, but for many poor Asians, who can afford only rice, that remains an impossible dream. To deal with the problem, “biofortification” with genetically modified food plants is 1/10th as costly as dietary supplements.

“Golden rice”—with two extra genes to make beta-carotene, the raw material for vitamin A—was a technical triumph, identical to ordinary rice except in color. Painstaking negotiations led to companies waiving their patent rights so the plant could be grown and regrown free by anybody.

Yet today, 14 years later, it still has not been licensed to growers anywhere in the world. The reason is regulatory red tape deliberately imposed to appease the opponents of genetic modification, which Adrian Dubock, head of the golden rice project, describes as “a witch-hunt for suspected theoretical environmental problems…[because] many activist NGOs thought that genetically engineered crops should be opposed as part of their anti-globalization agenda.”

It is surprising to find that an effective solution to the problem consistently rated by experts as the poor world’s highest priority has been stubbornly opposed by so many pressure groups supposedly acting on behalf of the poor.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:43 | 2447732 Confused
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Sure. Its the fault of opponents of genetic modification. know, giving it away for...... free........ so it could be regrown by anyone......for no is totally believable.


Whats the catch?

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:56 | 2447814 Gully Foyle
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Golden rice was created by Ingo Potrykus of the Institute of Plant Sciences at the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology, working with Peter Beyer of the University of Freiburg.


Potrykus has spearheaded an effort to have golden rice distributed for free to subsistence farmers. This required several companies which had intellectual property rights to the results of Beyer's research to license it for free. Beyer had received funding from the European Commissions 'Carotene Plus' research program, and by accepting those funds, he was required by law to give the rights to his discovery to the corporate sponsors of that program, Zeneca (now Syngenta). Beyer and Potrykus made use of 70 intellectual property rights belonging to 32 different companies and universities in the making of golden rice. They needed to establish free licences for all of these, so Syngenta and humanitarian partners in the project could use golden rice in breeding programs and to develop new crops.[24]

Free licenses, so called Humanitarian Use Licenses, were granted quickly due to the positive publicity that golden rice received, particularly in Time magazine in July 2000. Golden rice was said to be the first genetically modified crop that was inarguably beneficial, and thus met with widespread approval. Monsanto Company was one of the first companies to grant the group free licences.[25]

The group also had to define the cutoff between humanitarian and commercial use. This figure was set at US$10,000. Therefore, as long as a farmer or subsequent user of golden rice genetics does not make more than $10,000 per year, no royalties need be paid to Syngenta for commercial use. There is no fee for the humanitarian use of golden rice, and farmers are permitted to keep and replant seed.


Critics of genetically engineered crops have raised various concerns. One of these is that golden rice originally did not have sufficient vitamin A. This problem was solved by the development of new strains of rice.[3] However, there are still doubts about the speed at which vitamin A degrades once the plant is harvested, and how much would remain after cooking.[28] A 2009 study of boiled golden rice fed to volunteers concluded that golden rice is effectively converted into vitamin A in humans.[9]

Greenpeace opposes the release of any genetically modified organisms into the environment, and is concerned that golden rice is a Pandora's Box that will open the door to more widespread use of GMOs.[29]

Vandana Shiva, an Indian anti-GMO activist, argued the problem was not that the crop had any particular deficiencies, but that there were potential problems with poverty and loss of biodiversity in food crops. These problems are aggravated by the corporate control of agriculture based on genetically modified foods. By focusing on a narrow problem (vitamin A deficiency), Shiva argued, the golden rice proponents were obscuring the larger issue of a lack of broad availability of diverse and nutritionally adequate sources of food.[30] Other groups have argued a varied diet containing foods rich in beta carotene such as sweet potato, leafy green vegetables and fruit would provide children with sufficient vitamin A.[31]

Because of lacking real-world studies and uncertainty about how many people will use golden rice, WHO malnutrition expert Francesco Branca concludes "giving out supplements, fortifying existing foods with vitamin A, and teaching people to grow carrots or certain leafy vegetables are, for now, more promising ways to fight the problem".[32]

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 12:26 | 2447932 fnordfnordfnord
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Free for humanitarian use, while we feel like it, is not the same as free.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 18:44 | 2449083 prole
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I'm not reading GulluBoil entire post, but it appears to me that the statist troll is on here championing some genetically modified rice, based on some twisted logic that someone is withholding the poison? For whatever reason? If so-- GOOD!! any reason to ban the poisonous chemical/biological warfare fruit known as "GMO" is a good reason. Let the bastards zealously guard their deadly "patent" for a million years.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 12:14 | 2447742 onelight
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Gully that's interesting -- also how the article begins by contending that were the question raised in 1920, it would have been answered in support of eugenics, that great inspiration of Britain and then America and then over to Germany with fateful consequences -- Eugenics was not the most shining inspiration of the British Empire, alas nor of the The Cousins who bought into it for a time --

Golden Rice may be an exception, and I would like to learn more about it, from the scientists who have so ably debunked the rest of the GMO paradigm -- in meantime, I have to be proud of the many countries in the world that have voted to slow down the spread of GMO foods, until we know that what is claimed to be humane science is not actually stealth eugenics

That said, if Golden Rice is a true contribution whose advance has been blocked, well that is wrong indeed

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:32 | 2447689 slaughterer
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Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:43 | 2447744 Gully Foyle
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Before posting explanation commentary I think people should identify themselves as healthcare professionals.

Really would you take medical advice from a daytrader?

Just because you "read somewhere" doesn't mean it's a medical fact.

That is how Whooping cough spread via the Anti vaccination crowd.


Mon, 05/21/2012 - 12:49 | 2447998 Diplodicus Rex
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"Before posting explanation commentary I think people should identify themselves as healthcare professionals."


Absolutely agree, particularly if they're PhDs, because, as we all know, PhDs always look after our best interests and are only ever truthful and are never in the pay of parties that would do us harm

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 12:56 | 2448015 pods
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The medical community has been by and large corrupted by the allopathic method of treating disease.  That appeal to authority won't hunt I'm afraid.

I am not a healthcare provider, but an open minded scientist.

Speaking of vaccines, why is it that vaccines and vaccines alone may be approved for administration without any double blind placebo controlled studies to judge their efficacy?


Mon, 05/21/2012 - 12:16 | 2447906 Drachma
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Don't forget the plastic rice and melamine eggs, milk and baby formula.

Wed, 08/01/2012 - 03:33 | 2667864 jaffa
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The charity campaigns for improvements in the care and treatment of people with diabetes. Its symbol is the hummingbird, partly because of its association with sugar, and party because of its association with control and precision. Thanks.

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 10:01 | 2687373 jaffa
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The Association is also actively involved in advocating for scientific research and for the rights of people with diabetes. The Association acts on its mission through a number of critical programs and activities that are directed to a broad range of constituents, including consumers, research scientists, health care professionals, corporations and communities. Thanks.
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Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:12 | 2447590 hedgeless_horseman
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Maximum BMI requirements for SNAP, please. They aren't starving, obviously.  We will just end up paying more for their healthcare later.  We can better spend the fiat elsewhere than giving it to fat people to "buy" more food.


Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:16 | 2447619 LFMayor
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no no, HH.  Sometimes you don't pull on the rope, you instead run with it.   Pump those fucking useless eaters up with all the GMO sugar shit they can hold. 

Then, when the Great Reset begins, they all fall down.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:32 | 2447650 hedgeless_horseman
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Felt good to make omelets this weekend with every single ingredient coming from our own little farm, except the coffee and the whiskey in the coffee.



You could be here, too, sooner than you believe.  It isn't hard and very rewarding.   

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:33 | 2447691 Waterfallsparkles
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It is not just great that the food came from your own farm but I am sure you are physically fit growing, harvesting and preserving it as well.

We all wish we could do the same.  Congrats.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:35 | 2447703 francis_sawyer
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Terrorist! /sarc

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:37 | 2447711 hedgeless_horseman
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We all wish we could do the same.

The only thing stopping you is you.  We also have kids, activities, a commute, and a job. 

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:44 | 2447753 francis_sawyer
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cooking with 'gas' too... sweet

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 18:50 | 2449095 prole
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If they have property and land ie a "FARM" HELLO?? there is nothing to prevent them from cooking free with wood stove/grill outside in summer inside in winter.

That breakfast looks fantastic and healthy, the perfect antidote to the twinkie promoting trolls, GMO rice touting statists and other diabolical offal of collectivism and agri-tyranny Monsatan

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:50 | 2447791 The Final Countdown
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> The only thing stopping you is you.

Good to know, I'll start growing my own food tomorrow. It's going to be a little tight fitting all those plants, chickens, a pig and a cow into my 9th floor appartment, but you told me I can do it so...

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:56 | 2447818 francis_sawyer
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9th floor?

Well I guess for someone like yourself it would all start by jumping off the balcony... No balcony either? No problem... Just use a window... Just throw a brick (or other heavy weighted BLOCK) thru it if you can't figure out how to open it... If, due to your helplessness, can't find one, I'm thinking your head would suffice...

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:59 | 2447824 hedgeless_horseman
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...into my 9th floor appartment...

Poor you.

On the roof of a 21-story office building in Hong Kong's eastern district sits a grassy patch of hope that agriculture can thrive even in one of the world's most congested spaces.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 12:09 | 2447878 The Final Countdown
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That's absolutely hilarious. No really, it is... :-/

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 12:54 | 2448009 catacl1sm
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HA HA HA HAHAH HAHA HAH!!! You're a joke, no really, you are. It's called lifestyle bitch. Try a change.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 13:28 | 2448117 Grinder74
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But he's got such fabulous hair!

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:57 | 2447837 Gully Foyle
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The Final Countdown

Dude you can container grow just about anything, fruit and vegetable.

You could buy an Aerogarden, or a bunch as some do, and grow damn near anything you choose.

Lot's of forums covering all aspects of the above.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 12:04 | 2447861 The Final Countdown
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Can I container grow beef and eggs?

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 12:15 | 2447895 hedgeless_horseman
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Rabbits, chickens, and eggs are all easy to grow in the city.  But you sound like the type of person better suited to fast food and similiar conveniences.   To each his own.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 13:03 | 2448041 The Final Countdown
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Not really. Anyway, let's just forget about it. I'll remember not to reply next time as I'm obviously not worthy, being a city dweller and all. I'd love to have the luxury of having my own small farm like you do, but realistically that would be nigh impossible where I'm from.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 14:03 | 2448238 BooMushroom
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Yes, you can't have a farm in the middle of the sky in the city. You CAN, however, move.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 14:46 | 2448356 The Final Countdown
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I'd rather stay put, actually. We all have our own ways to live within our means, right? Maybe a couple of years down the road, when I've been stacking long enough, I'll have better options, options that don't involve becoming a debt slave just so I can grow my own food.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 17:48 | 2448969 Vlad Tepid
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Yet you have already become a debt slave just to eat.  Methinks that is worse.

As a sidebar, if you're on the 9th floor, it sounds to me like you've been stacking long enough.  Best to be living horizontally these days.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 19:01 | 2449115 prole
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Ladies, perhaps you were a little brusque brusk, bresk, brisqu with final countdown.

You could have wished him all the best and recommended some modest cherry tomato set-up for his balcony?

Although when Vlad the Impalor himself giving advice, I guess Vlad should get a pass for just about anything!

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 12:14 | 2447897 Gully Foyle
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The Final Countdown

Do you need to?

You could go Vegan.

doesn't matter, every dollar you save growing fruit and veg you can apply to buying beef and eggs.

Or you could use some Aquaponics and grow fish for your protein.

Fuck dude there are people who raise Tigers in apartments.

 Police Subdue Tiger in Harlem Apartment

Tiger, gator removed from Harlem apartment

A man who kept a 400- to 500-pound Bengal tiger and a 3-foot, 280-pound alligator as roommates in his Harlem apartment was in custody Sunday, charged with reckless endangerment, police said.


Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:38 | 2447719 Gully Foyle
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Wholesome Foods and Wholesome Morals? Organic Foods Reduce Prosocial Behavior and Harshen Moral Judgments

Recent research has revealed that specific tastes can influence moral processing, with sweet tastes inducing prosocial behavior and disgusting tastes harshening moral judgments. Do similar effects apply to different food types (comfort foods, organic foods, etc.)? Although organic foods are often marketed with moral terms (e.g., Honest Tea, Purity Life, and Smart Balance), no research to date has investigated the extent to which exposure to organic foods influences moral judgments or behavior. After viewing a few organic foods, comfort foods, or control foods, participants who were exposed to organic foods volunteered significantly less time to help a needy stranger, and they judged moral transgressions significantly harsher than those who viewed nonorganic foods. These results suggest that exposure to organic foods may lead people to affirm their moral identities, which attenuates their desire to be altruistic.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:43 | 2447726 hedgeless_horseman
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I hate to burst your bubble, but I honestly cannot remember the last time I purchased any "organic" food, and we give five figures to charity every year.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:50 | 2447760 Gully Foyle
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Organic food is a scam. It offers zero benefit over nonorganic.

Except the right to be preachy.

I'm glad you can make the distinction between home grown and organic.

Many can not.

Then again you understand the mechanics of growing and tending.

Do you make your own cheese?

And did you process, direct from cow/goat, the milk for the cheese?

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 12:57 | 2448018 catacl1sm
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I was going to write a long pithy comment proving your wrongness, but then I decided that you're not worth the effort. Enjoy your pesticides and nutrient lacking food.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 13:10 | 2448054 pods
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There may in fact be some benefit long term of having no pesticide residue on your veggies that are organic.

The nutrient level has much more to do with when the produce was harvested.  The closer to ripeness, the more phytonutrients are available.

So even if a food is organic, there may be little to no benefit if it is harvested in the same manner as the non-organic food.

Organic used to mean smaller farmers closer to you.  This would allow them to pick an almost ripe food that would be higher in nutrients than one picked a week before ripeness.

Now with larger scale organic farms producing for areas farther away, the benefits obtained are nill.

Biggest lesson to understand: Organic does not mean more nutrients.  Ripening on the vine means more nutrients.


Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:46 | 2447764 Abitdodgie
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The USDA owns the word " Organic" how can you own a word ? and these days there is no differance between organic and regular except  one application of Roundup.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 13:01 | 2448034 SILVERGEDDON

G ully, I love you, man. You put the DIP back into SHIT.   

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:51 | 2447795 francis_sawyer
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 "These results suggest that exposure to organic foods may lead people to affirm their moral identities, which attenuates their desire to be altruistic"


All that tells me is that the sample group was a bunch of FOS faux liberals... HH would not fall under that sample group...

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:41 | 2447729 SWRichmond
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Nothing more satisfying than going out and picking lunch out of the garden, rinsing it off and eating it.  Nothing.  Gratz!

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:47 | 2447772 Gully Foyle
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Dude, it's the only way to eat Corn.

Longer it takes from harvest to eating the more sugar is converted to starch.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 12:57 | 2448026 catacl1sm
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Sugar and starch are both digested into glucose. What does it fucking matter?

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 14:13 | 2448268 BooMushroom
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Go to your pantry and eat a teaspoon of cornstarch.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:41 | 2447735 Abitdodgie
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Nice counter top where did you get it ?

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 13:54 | 2448206 francis_sawyer
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My guess is that he cut it from a block of Gully's head...

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:42 | 2447738 bigwavedave
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i grow lots of coffee. wanna barter?

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 12:06 | 2447867 hedgeless_horseman
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Need a horse?

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:45 | 2447759 slaughterer
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You also made the cheese yourself?

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:49 | 2447780 Gully Foyle
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I asked that as well.

Cheese making doesn't look all that hard. Kind of time consuming.

It's on the to do list for us.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 13:55 | 2448212 francis_sawyer
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I happen to be making a wheel of parmesean cheese as we speak (slowly bring the milk temp up)... It's raining today...

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:54 | 2447785 hedgeless_horseman
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Yes, this is a swiss cheese my wife makes, and the butter, too.  We have Milking Shorthorn, and the sausage also came from one of her offspring.

Here is a great company to help get you started:

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 12:03 | 2447859 Gully Foyle
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I started checking out Cheesemaking about six months ago.

Haven't taken the first steps yet.

We garden.Make our own bread, so on.

Not enough room for outside animals. Yet.

Have you checked out the miniature Cows? Less room and produce nearly as much milk.

Not into the red meat, so can't comment on that.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 13:58 | 2448217 francis_sawyer
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That's the same supplier I use (cheese)... Good comment about rabbits above... Arguably easier than chickens...

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:49 | 2447782 ProtectiveFather
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Well done. Especially the whiskey and eggs pairing.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 12:10 | 2447886 Milton Freewater
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Unplugging is the best move that my wife and I have ever made.  We eat better then we ever have for a fraction of the price. We also get the most gratifying feeling of "sticking it to the man"  without hurting a soul.  Rebel farming!


Mon, 05/21/2012 - 12:35 | 2447962 fnordfnordfnord
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It's not always easy. Critters keep eating my chicks.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 12:43 | 2447986 hedgeless_horseman
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Sounds to me like you need a good dog.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 13:05 | 2448045 catacl1sm
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I have the answer to that problem. Eat the chicks yourself before the critters get to them!


Welcome to the NWO.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 17:35 | 2448931 kekekekekekeke
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where are you?

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:15 | 2447597 JustObserving
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Easily reduce your diabetes risk by 50% and more.  Add years to your life and save hundreds of thousands in medical costs (over lifetime in USA) by spending just 3 minutes at

Drinking a glass of dry red wine to your health (reduces diabetes risk by 25 to 30%). And eating tree nuts (1 ounce a day reduces diabetes risk by 27%).

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:35 | 2447694 LowProfile
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Not eating sugar, not drinking alcohol, limiting carbohydrate intake, avoiding all processed foods and exercising reduces lifestyle-induced risk by 99%.

Interestingly, that also tends to eliminate every other lifestyle risk as well.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:39 | 2447724 JustObserving
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Moderate levels of alcohol reduces your risk of diabetes substantially:


Alcohol and Diabetes Risk

Drinking alcohol in moderation is associated with a lower risk of developing type 2 (adult-onset) diabetes, according to a large-scale Scandanavian study.

Nearly 23,000 Finnish twins provided information on ther alcohol use, diet, smoking. physical activity, medical and social condtions. They did so in 1975, 1981 and 1990. Over 20 years of follow-up, 580 cases of type 2 diabetes were identified.

In an anaylysis of pairs of twins with different drinking patterns, those who consumed alcohol in moderation had half the risk of diabetes compared to those who consumed less alcohol.

The researchers report that their findings are consistent with numerous previous studies that have shown moderate alcohol drinkers to have a 30-40 percent reduced risk of type 2 diabetes.


Mon, 05/21/2012 - 12:11 | 2447885 Popo
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The first and most important step anyone can take is this: 

Stop drinking sugary beverages.   And that *INCLUDES* most fruit-juices which are essentially sugar-water with minimal vitamin benefits relative to sugar content.

But cola is the principal source of sugar for most adults.  

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 12:22 | 2447930 JustObserving
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Diet drinks are even more dangerous than sugary drinks in adding weight and increasing diabetes risk.  In response to a diet drink, the body releases insulin and since there is no sugar to be processed, your blood sugar falls and you get very hungry.

Research confirms this explanation.  

 people who drank a can or more of diet soda daily showed a 34-percent higher risk of developing the metabolic syndrome

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 15:50 | 2448608 Miffed Microbio...
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Kid you not. A close friend of mine was visiting a friend in the hospital and saw he was drinking a Coke ( he's an uncontrolled diabetic) my friend smacked it out of his hand and screamed at him " what he hell are you doing!" the nurse came in and claimed he could have it because he was on insulin drip. He originally came into the ER with a glucose over 500. My friend melted down on me about the medical field and malpractice. I didn't have the heart to tell him that this wasn't malpractice and believe it or not happens all the time. Don't, if you want to stay healthy, look to the medical field for answers. And this is coming from someone who makes their living of off diabetics ( conservatively speaking at least 70 percent).


Mon, 05/21/2012 - 16:43 | 2448780 JustObserving
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A can of coke has 39 grams of sugar and the sugar in human blood (4.7 liters or 5 quarts)  is about 4.25 grams.  So a can of coke can increase a severe diabetic's blood sugar by a couple of hundred points easily.

Knowledge of how food and exercise affects your blood sugar is a potent weapon in the fight against diabetes.  And, the medical establishment gets a failing grade on educating and empowering diabetics to take care of their health.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:39 | 2447722 Gully Foyle
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Will those added years be useful or merely shitting yourself while a nursing home sucks up whatever money it can steal from you and your family?

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:53 | 2447765 JustObserving
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If you get diabetes, you may go blind, lose your kidneys and lose a limb or two.  About 27% of Americans above age 65 have that disease.  You certainly don't want to live with that disease. Besides, it is so easy to avoid with a bit of knowledge.

People who develop diabetes in their 40s lose 12 to 14 years of their life - that may mitigate their suffering.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:15 | 2447603 oddjob
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Spreading Diabetes to the World is Buffett's proudest achievement.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:37 | 2447713 francis_sawyer
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Buffet's Law ~ You're 'uncivilized' if you buy gold & don't drink Coca Cola & get diabetes...

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 13:30 | 2448126 Not Too Important
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Or spreading diabetes through radiation, courtesy of GE:

An unforseen byproduct. We know about the genetic mutations and cancers, but diabetes is on the big list, too.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:13 | 2447604 kito
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who needs the american military when our multi-national food corporations are doing a better job at killing off the world's population. the western diet is a much more effective weapon than drones!!

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:17 | 2447621 Tinky
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Don't forgot Monsanto...

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:55 | 2447816 kito
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yes, monsanto, the most despicable corporation out there. their poison is now linked to bee colony collapse. the company that discovered the link was bought out by....monsanto. monsanto doing their best to keep the link under wraps....unreal....

if anybody uses Round Up on their lawn, it would behoove you to read the linked posts. bee colony collapse is a growing threat to our food supply............

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:13 | 2447605 GMadScientist
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Resistance is futile.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:35 | 2447698 Karl von Bahnhof
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Bringing freedom, democracy and diabetes to the world ...

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:17 | 2447609 LFMayor
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"I warned you, God damn you all!"  - Wilford Brimley

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:31 | 2447681 TrainWreck1
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Trying to picture a Chinese Wirfold Blimrey



Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:16 | 2447614 Cheeky Bitch
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Pharma FTW..Janumet $800.00 a month..add in the accessories..

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:16 | 2447615 francis_sawyer
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It just looks to me like somebody has created yet another problem to throw more money at...


Go ahead, junk away at my unsympathisizing ass (which just so happens to be a little smaller than your average ass out there)...

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:18 | 2447626 MrPalladium
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For type II cases on any form of welfare, FEMA camps with an hour of PT before breakfast in the morning - another hour of PT before dinner - and a 1400 calorie diet might be just the ticket!!

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:37 | 2447714 Joe The Plumber
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Some variety of the lazy fatso on disability junked you. I would think they would appreciate getting to go to fat camp for free. It can be very expensive

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:18 | 2447627 ParaZite
Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:18 | 2447628 Segestan
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Hey... it's racist to talk about the third worlders. Only America and Americans are Bad .. don't you know???

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:19 | 2447634 Seorse Gorog fr...
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USA diabetes = 7.6% of population,

China diabetes = 6.7%,

India diabetes = 5.07%.

China is lagging but catching up. Moar Golden Arches!


Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:30 | 2447678 JustObserving
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Diabetes rates in USA are higher than you suggest:


Diagnosed and undiagnosed diabetes among people aged 20 years or older, United States, 2010

Age 20 years or older: 25.6 million, or 11.3% of all people in this age group, have diabetes.

Age 65 years or older: 10.9 million, or 26.9% of all people in this age group, have diabetes.

Men: 13.0 million, or 11.8% of all men aged 20 years or older, have diabetes.

Women: 12.6 million, or 10.8% of all women aged 20 years or older, have diabetes.

Non-Hispanic whites: 15.7 million, or 10.2% of all non-Hispanic whites aged 20 years or older, have diabetes.

Non-Hispanic blacks: 4.9 million, or 18.7% of all non-Hispanic blacks aged 20 years or older, have diabetes.


Mon, 05/21/2012 - 12:43 | 2447985 Cthonic
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Why don't they post diabetes rates for Hispanics?

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:18 | 2447636 4shzl
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The plague of the untermensch -- parvenus with no self-control are selected out of the gene pool: go, Gaia, go!

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:19 | 2447641 ejmoosa
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One of the reasons we need bullets that can penetrate deeper....

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:50 | 2447790 ejmoosa
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Those are the bullets they intend to use against us....when we refuse to be "re-educated".

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:21 | 2447648 nowhereman
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Of course, statins, the drugs used to lower blood cholesterol, one of big pharma's best sellers, which has been shown to cause diabetes, has nothing to do with it.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:22 | 2447652 Thorny Xi
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A good correlation with Coca Cola / Pepsico sales over the past 20 years.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:22 | 2447653 bankruptcylawyer
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This whole article comes from the diabetes pharma lobby.
International diabetes foundation my ass.

It reads like a veiled marketing advertisement for investing in Big Diabetes Co. Because look how big their Untapped markets are

I call bullshit on ALL these numbers and stats and this damn article.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:45 | 2447761 Cheeky Bitch
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Soon to outsell sanitary products and condoms

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:22 | 2447654 insanelysane
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I really don't understand people's concern with other people's health.  Let people do what they want and force them to take ownership of what they do by not paying for their health care.

Health care does not save lives, it extends and pretends.  On a long enough timeline.........

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 11:32 | 2447690 catacl1sm
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A big part of the problem has been the US govt's insistance that eating a diet high in carbohydrates (grains and shit) is good for you, when its not.

Mon, 05/21/2012 - 12:27 | 2447935 haskelslocal
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Don't even open this pandora's box. Children given Fruit Loops, OJ and Candy for breakfast aren't "eating what they want". They're eating what's given to them based on trust by parents who feed them based on trust in marketing pitches from "wholesome" food providers based on low incomes that only allow the sacrifice of qulaity for qunatity on a low budget. Y


Mon, 05/21/2012 - 19:34 | 2449175 prole
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You lost me at "trust for marketing pitches." If we are to have Liberty, we must have freedom of choice. I must and choose to respect every parent's choice to feed their own children as they see fit. If I can -force- someone to feed their kids healthy natural food according to me opinion, then 5 minutes later some .gov stooge like Excuisitely Gully will be force-feeding me Monsatan GMO Biological agents and preaching at me how healthy it is.

Any one with an IQ sufficient to find their way out of bed in the morning should understand that marketing pitches are what they are-- Promoting whatever to whomever using whatever ruse is effective, and to be ignored. I understand this and laugh at and disregard all marketing and I am the dumbest person on this site

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