Gold = 1776 = Independence from the repressors. The only difference is that in 1776 they were the english and today they are the Bernank and his lonely bankster gang. "It was 236 years ago tonight...."
My old stash is/was in the surf about 20 yards off the beach in Edmonds. look for the remains of a 12 ft green Coleman fiberglass canoe. Should be in that area somewhere.
The same forces, but many fewer people with many more natural resources, but orders of magnitude slower communications. Technology has come a long way since 1776, but technology is nobody's friend and it doesn't care whether we live (or how comfortably) or die.
The man who reads nothing at all is better than educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers.
Was the government to prescribe to us our medicine and diet, our bodies would be in such keeping as our souls are now.
The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.
The policy of the American government is to leave their citizens free, neither restraining nor aiding them in their pursuits.
What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance?
The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions that I wish it to be always kept alive. It will often be exercised when wrong, but better so than not to be exercised at all.
The majority, oppressing an individual, is guilty of a crime, abuses its strength, and by acting on the law of the strongest breaks up the foundations of society.
When wrongs are pressed because it is believed they will be borne, resistance becomes morality.
Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want bread.
Liberty is the great parent of science and of virtue; and a nation will be great in both in proportion as it is free.
He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.
I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.
I have sworn on the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.
I have never been able to conceive how any rational being could propose happiness to himself from the exercise of power over others.
To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
In a government bottomed on the will of all, the...liberty of every individual citizen becomes interesting to all.
I think myself that we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious. (Back then!)
The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.
I am not a friend to a very energetic government. It is always oppressive.
When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
Well shit stained balls. I guess I'm paying a bit more on the next purchase. (unless theres a raid this week) Thats what I get for listening to the Turd... Again.
Look, it's your fault for not buying. Don't try to blame someone who is not only trying to help you get the best price, but trying to help educate you about the gold market, among other things.
I've bought, and been growing my position for some time. I'm not blaming Turd, I blame myself for listening to his advice. I think sharing that bit of info (my mistake) could help fellow Zero Hedgers.
Hey the Turd has been wrong 99.9% of the time using charts. EVERY friday he has been fearmongering the crowd. Please post the correct Turd analyst posts HERE..
I'm not defending you. I may be wrong, but I seem to remember you advocating acquiring more Ag right before the 20 FRN smackdown. I wasn't able to access your archives to substantiate my belief. I wonder if you have any of the phyzz.
Constantly warning of imminent downside risk is akin to crying wolf. If you had not been on here crowing about profits, it would have been that you warned us it would fall. Why put credence in charts in which the next paragraph you go on to say the price is manipulated. Sitting on the fence only works for posers.
So you are saying that there isn't ever-present downside risk in this market which is characterized by extreme volatility and blatent, in your face violation of the rule of law?
You do realize that he has used charts to successfully pick likely intervention points, right? Or did you bother to read about why he uses charts in a manipulated environment?
I think charts are useless myself, but you are a blowhard.
Just dollar cost average, and don't let anyone talk you out of your physical silver.
He's just calling it as he sees it. He's been very accurate in the past which is why he's got such a large following. That doesn't mean he's gonna call it right every time.
That doesn't give you the right to bag him. Let's see your track record and see how it measures up.
You know, we've been here before and they have managed to slam it down .... over and over again. Maybe this time will be different, but try not to get TOO excited.
Same here Mr. Hendrix. I did however split some of it and dumped it into gold just before the EU FinMin. Figured it was better to anticipate more of the same stupidity. Now I'm sorry I didn't go all in.
I know I have to get in the dang pool before the LTRO, but there hasn't been a dip to buy yet. I guess I will sit back and see what op/ex brings tomorrow.
Just start a pile and plump it up from time to time. In the slightly longer run this is all going to seem like the basement for the POG. Soon we will have a serious repricing and it will not be in the paper market...get physical...
Are you seriously gonna to worry about a few bucks when we all know where gold is going? Just buy. Don't be cute with the market, just buy when you have money and forget about it.
Look, if you compare gold against housing, oil, softs etc (real things) historically. You'll find it has maybe a bit still to go, but the real hill climb is already over. From now it's really just an inflation hedge.
Real money can be made elsewhere. And no I don't mean silver. Silver needs an escalating S&P to close the ratio.
Our first stop is in Bogota To check Columbian fields The natives smile and pass along A sample of their yield Sweet Jamaican pipe dreams Golden Acapulco nights Then Morocco, and the East, Fly by morning light.
We're on the train to Bangkok Aboard the Thailand Express We'll hit the stops along the way We only stop for the best.
Wreathed in smoke in Lebanon We burn the midnight oil The fragrance of Afghanistan Rewards a long day's toil Pulling into Katmandu Smoke rings fill the air Perfumed by a Nepal night The Express gets you there.
$1,000 / oz in today's purchasing power. All the fiat out there is just counterfiet gold and when fiat collapses, a good amount of that value will flow back into actual gold. Where else are you going to store your wealth during currency collapse? Gold hits $10,000 min. and that's being very cautious. It could hit as high as $50,000.
During precious metals bull markets, the gold to silver ratio shrinks. And it will especially shrink now considering the fundamentals of silver production and consumption are so compelling. The silver to gold ratio will hit min. 10 to 1 when the USD collapses, meaning silver hits $1,000 / oz, assuming $10,000 gold. The silver to gold ratio could hit as low as 4 to 1, meaning at $50,000 gold, silver would be at $12,500.
About half the $750M oz of silver mined every year are destroyed through production, and industries are going to get their silver at any cost because they use it in such small amounts, meaning only enough silver stays above ground every for 1 oz / US citizen. That's not very much when considering the dollar is going bye bye.
just stopped by my local bullion dealer - there's literally nothing on the shelves except a few old silver coins. stopped by my local bank to see if they had any gold for sale - no dice. who the hell bought up all the gold?
May 1, 1776
illuminati bitchez!!
flew right through 1776 and is trading at 1780 right now. 7 wild minutes until the Chicago pits close ...
IF 1776 is the answer to 1984, then.....
... lets travel back in time?
Gold = 1776 = Independence from the repressors. The only difference is that in 1776 they were the english and today they are the Bernank and his lonely bankster gang. "It was 236 years ago tonight...."
I don't know about you guys.., but I am beginning to think that adding a little gold or silver to the old porfolio might make sense. ;- )
I hear you can find a lot at the bottom of rivers and lakes
My old stash is/was in the surf about 20 yards off the beach in Edmonds. look for the remains of a 12 ft green Coleman fiberglass canoe. Should be in that area somewhere.
Or in your Grandpappy's teeth.
the faces and contrived facades may change, but I am fairly certain the same forces were at work back then (1776) as today...
I don't see how the number of Blankfein's bathrooms has anything to do with this
The same forces, but many fewer people with many more natural resources, but orders of magnitude slower communications. Technology has come a long way since 1776, but technology is nobody's friend and it doesn't care whether we live (or how comfortably) or die.
The revolution was to win freedom from the English BANKERS, and the king and army who served them.
The taxation and forced use of British currency in the colonies was so that wealth could be extracted to pay off the King's debts.
The English imposed lower taxes on the American colonists than the current American government does. Far lower in fact.
"You will pay for your lack of vision..."
just have to love the tylers...they sure know how to turn a date
everything is EXACTLY the way our founding fathers intended
sarc
if our founding fathers were here now, I think they would have already started shooting, ah wonder who they would target 1st.
central bankers, politicians, judges and other criminal entities like law enforcement
The man who reads nothing at all is better than educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers.
Was the government to prescribe to us our medicine and diet, our bodies would be in such keeping as our souls are now.
The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.
The policy of the American government is to leave their citizens free, neither restraining nor aiding them in their pursuits.
What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance?
The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions that I wish it to be always kept alive. It will often be exercised when wrong, but better so than not to be exercised at all.
The majority, oppressing an individual, is guilty of a crime, abuses its strength, and by acting on the law of the strongest breaks up the foundations of society.
When wrongs are pressed because it is believed they will be borne, resistance becomes morality.
Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want bread.
Liberty is the great parent of science and of virtue; and a nation will be great in both in proportion as it is free.
He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.
I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.
I have sworn on the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.
I have never been able to conceive how any rational being could propose happiness to himself from the exercise of power over others.
To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
In a government bottomed on the will of all, the...liberty of every individual citizen becomes interesting to all.
I think myself that we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious. (Back then!)
The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.
I am not a friend to a very energetic government. It is always oppressive.
When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
Jefferson knew best, bitchez!
I want another Jefferson, another Andrew Jackson for President.
I guess I'll have to go with my bumper sticker. It has a picture of Washington on it and says, "I'd vote for Ron Paul."
Sad... The amount of the "dumbing down" of our society that has happend since then...
Well shit stained balls. I guess I'm paying a bit more on the next purchase. (unless theres a raid this week) Thats what I get for listening to the Turd... Again.
Look, it's your fault for not buying. Don't try to blame someone who is not only trying to help you get the best price, but trying to help educate you about the gold market, among other things.
I've bought, and been growing my position for some time. I'm not blaming Turd, I blame myself for listening to his advice. I think sharing that bit of info (my mistake) could help fellow Zero Hedgers.
Fuck that, we're all grown here. I will use Turd's advice if I want to, or I won't, it's my choice.
It sounds like some folks are betting on the price of gold rather than 'getting some'.
"If you can't pet it, it is not really yours." ©2012 lasgegaspersona all rights reserved
please don't steal...that is my retirement plan you're messing with
"If you can't pet it, it is not really yours."
Thats correctomundo, they divorce you sometimes.
That's pretty much the point of my comment above.
Take advise into account but listen to no one.
I think Turd is a little shell shocked still from last year. I don't blame him. We are all a bit rattled from the same.
It just proves that TA is useless in a manipulated market.
You got it. Place your bets.
Any market that can drop 30% in 2 days will make anybody get white hair.
As I said below;
"Last I read from TF was "Gold and Silver looking good; caution warranted" wtf are you talking about?"
WE THE PEOPLE
Consent of the Governed.
shall overthrow their government... oh crap here come the black helicopters...
Freedom sure does taste good.....even though I can't eat my gold. ;)
AN ILUSSION IT WILL BE, SO LARGE, SO VAST IT WILL ESCAPE THEIR PERCEPTION
OPEN YOUR DOORS OF PERCEPTIONREALITY IS THEIR ILLUSION
THEIR FICTION IS THE REALITY
My doors are open, now I need to wash them.
You let the bankstas borrow your pad for another hookers & blow party again, dintcha?
You've read the secret covenant....
Well you can trade your gold for a lot more food than a pile of FRNs
I don't get it. Turd said it was going down, be careful, look at the charts, be very afraid..dope.
I imagine that living the life of the anti-Turd must be rather sad. Wanna borrow my hankie?
Platinum is the short term trade until the strike at Impala is resolved supply will be impacted. Be ready to switch when the strike ends.
I don't think he's being "anti" anything, he just read the same BAD information a lot of other people did (including myself).
Hey the Turd has been wrong 99.9% of the time using charts. EVERY friday he has been fearmongering the crowd. Please post the correct Turd analyst posts HERE..
<crickets>
As the great philosopher 50 Cent would say:
I think he sells hats as well.
He doesn't sell hats, he gives them away.
You know, like his commentary.
I thoroughly enjoy it when people criticize my efforts through:
By the way, Spanky, that silver call I bought last month was a triple. I'm UP 3G and you're still a douchebag. Win, win!
And to my friends who have defended me on this thread, thank you.
U B DA MAN TURD, and thank you
always be careful selling gold...after all it is a bull market we are in
I'm not defending you. I may be wrong, but I seem to remember you advocating acquiring more Ag right before the 20 FRN smackdown. I wasn't able to access your archives to substantiate my belief. I wonder if you have any of the phyzz.
Constantly warning of imminent downside risk is akin to crying wolf. If you had not been on here crowing about profits, it would have been that you warned us it would fall. Why put credence in charts in which the next paragraph you go on to say the price is manipulated. Sitting on the fence only works for posers.
So you are saying that there isn't ever-present downside risk in this market which is characterized by extreme volatility and blatent, in your face violation of the rule of law?
You do realize that he has used charts to successfully pick likely intervention points, right? Or did you bother to read about why he uses charts in a manipulated environment?
I think charts are useless myself, but you are a blowhard.
Just dollar cost average, and don't let anyone talk you out of your physical silver.
You're going to need more hankies.
He's just calling it as he sees it. He's been very accurate in the past which is why he's got such a large following. That doesn't mean he's gonna call it right every time.
That doesn't give you the right to bag him. Let's see your track record and see how it measures up.
I don't get it. Turd said it was going down, be careful, look at the charts, be very afraid..dope.
---------------
Time to think for yourself.
Last I read from TF was "Gold and Silver looking good; caution warranted" wtf are you talking about?
traditional date for traditional metal
I just have to put this out there, Brian Westbury has a large lack of common sense. Get your head out of your ass!
next 1865, then 1963.
You forgot 1881 and 1901...
The freemasons add 4000 years to their calendar.
1776 + 4000 = where gold is going
I would settle for a 2012...2112 even better.
Gold Bitchezz
How Jeffersonian.
Breakout.
Look out 2,000
breaker 19 breaker 19.....cue the tanks
Tranks perform much more efficiently than tanks. Coming up next, the Glee Winter Finale!
No no no...
How boutcha them tanks, ye got ears on? Pick it up and kick it back.
OT
Original Trucker
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKYEKhxWy6o
Feb 22nd 2012 the day gold declared it's independence from the grips of the Bernank's tyranny.
Unilateral Declaration of Independence from insanity. President Gold.
You know, we've been here before and they have managed to slam it down .... over and over again. Maybe this time will be different, but try not to get TOO excited.
Stay calm and carry on.
Feelings I have not had in decades will start flowing once Gold is above 2500 and Silver 60 and stays there or keeps rising.
Darth Vader: I sense something; a presence I've not felt since...
Come to the Dark side (we have cookies!) :>D
I've been sitting on cash all week except for a small position on miners yesterday. Guess who feels stupid....
Same here Mr. Hendrix. I did however split some of it and dumped it into gold just before the EU FinMin. Figured it was better to anticipate more of the same stupidity. Now I'm sorry I didn't go all in.
I know I have to get in the dang pool before the LTRO, but there hasn't been a dip to buy yet. I guess I will sit back and see what op/ex brings tomorrow.
Mr. LH
Read Martin's short 1 pager
Dow Jones Soars – Gold Flounders
http://armstrongeconomics.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/armstrongeconomics-dow-soars-gold-flounders-021912.pdf
Thanks sam
No Prob.
Highly highly recommend looking at a few of his previous ones.
http://armstrongeconomics.com/martin_armstrong_writings/
LH ....sarc right?
1510 wasn't enough of a dip?
Just start a pile and plump it up from time to time. In the slightly longer run this is all going to seem like the basement for the POG. Soon we will have a serious repricing and it will not be in the paper market...get physical...
Are you seriously gonna to worry about a few bucks when we all know where gold is going? Just buy. Don't be cute with the market, just buy when you have money and forget about it.
Nah.
Look, if you compare gold against housing, oil, softs etc (real things) historically. You'll find it has maybe a bit still to go, but the real hill climb is already over. From now it's really just an inflation hedge.
Real money can be made elsewhere. And no I don't mean silver. Silver needs an escalating S&P to close the ratio.
If you are referring to fiat that isn't real money. I will however exchange the fist I make in the market for real money......gold.
The "returns" in gold won't end until everybody is scrambling to buy. Right now they are selling.
And also because Jim Sinclair said it was a magical number that would propel and attract the price of gold in dollars. ( I believe he said so)
I believe Jim's number was $1764
Gold attack on fiat music.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxDemDZWktM
My deep congrats over the Pond.
THANK GOD! The rain is falling.
AT LAST!
Oh wait...
The answer to 1984
I'm partial to 1913 myself.
2112
We have assumed control...we have assumed control...we have assumed control.
A Passage to Bangkok
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5FrHuRcqoA
Our first stop is in Bogota
To check Columbian fields
The natives smile and pass along
A sample of their yield
Sweet Jamaican pipe dreams
Golden Acapulco nights
Then Morocco, and the East,
Fly by morning light.
We're on the train to Bangkok
Aboard the Thailand Express
We'll hit the stops along the way
We only stop for the best.
Wreathed in smoke in Lebanon
We burn the midnight oil
The fragrance of Afghanistan
Rewards a long day's toil
Pulling into Katmandu
Smoke rings fill the air
Perfumed by a Nepal night
The Express gets you there.
This song reads like the CIA's nation building playbook
We have assumed control...we have assumed control...we have assumed control.
Thing is, people want to be controlled.
Freedom involves self-responsibility, and they fear that more than death.
+1 just for the rush lyrics
Neil Peart credits Ayn Rand on this album. I knew there was a reason I always like Rush.
But the "meek shall inherit the earth" line predates Rand...by some 1900 years.
1776 IS quite traditonal, yes yes....
Someone must have found a way to cook it.
Of course, barbeque! Why didn't I think of it? It's so simple!
GW's birthday too!
War is imminent ...
WTI doesn't seem to indicate that. I sure hope you're wrong. Too many wars already.
The Joint Chiefs of Staff rained on that parade.
west texas crude has diverged from brent because the US is flush right now with crude, stuck in cushing oklahoma -- it's a pipeline issue.
when the saber rattling gets louder - and I suspect it will reach a deafening pitch - you'll likely see some eye popping increases in west texas.
not that I'm wishing for it -- just trying to be realistic
Beware of parabolic moves! Got Phyzzz?!?!
Almost got it all over my pants when I saw that chart!
^+avatar+^
Freegold bitchez!
Cheerz Bitchez
we few, we happy few, we band of silver holders . . .
Jim Sinclair says expect a war at 1764. I wonder if the Cartel will step in soon?
They'll step in their own shit soon enough.
Where you been? There's been a war over the 1764 price for 6 months.
1778...
Time travel.
At about 7 pm, a War of Secession will erupt somewhere.
speaking of symbolic numbers:
http://chartistfriendfrompittsburgh.blogspot.com/2012/02/stock-market-numerology-2012-0221.html
$1,000 silver just around the corner.
TheSilverJournal.com
1000 dollar silver is the wet dream of the young not yet full grown.
However....
that will make gold so high, you can flip a coin and pay off a student loan.
So much for the future interest payments for 20 years or until death whichever comes first "For the system"
$1,000 / oz in today's purchasing power. All the fiat out there is just counterfiet gold and when fiat collapses, a good amount of that value will flow back into actual gold. Where else are you going to store your wealth during currency collapse? Gold hits $10,000 min. and that's being very cautious. It could hit as high as $50,000.
During precious metals bull markets, the gold to silver ratio shrinks. And it will especially shrink now considering the fundamentals of silver production and consumption are so compelling. The silver to gold ratio will hit min. 10 to 1 when the USD collapses, meaning silver hits $1,000 / oz, assuming $10,000 gold. The silver to gold ratio could hit as low as 4 to 1, meaning at $50,000 gold, silver would be at $12,500.
About half the $750M oz of silver mined every year are destroyed through production, and industries are going to get their silver at any cost because they use it in such small amounts, meaning only enough silver stays above ground every for 1 oz / US citizen. That's not very much when considering the dollar is going bye bye.
TheSilverJournal.com
At those prices it would be worth it to retrieve everything I lost during my recent canoe capsizing.
... and where exactly was that 'canoe capsizing' again? ... GPS coordinates would be fine ... ;)
And gas at $150/gal.
In other words, the world is in full burn mode.
150 gal gas... I could buy a mountain of metal at that point.
lube long, bitchez!
1780...
As of 2:30 EST, CNBC still headlining 'Gold Eases as..."
Hopefully the producers have all the chicks in plunging necklines today to distract all the viewers from the PMs.
1783 is even better!
I find it funny how many posts go up on ZH when the gold price is advancing.
Woohoo this means all of us can't afford to buy as much... er... yeah... bollocks :-/ .
Double edged sword my friends.
spoken like somebody that doesn't own any ...
I don't know what he is going on about. I've been complaining about the advancing price for two days now.
Not enough, which is my point.
1776? What? ...did the Second of Sirius breed tiny monsters?
Oh Shit! ...it's the Golden Fang of the Suicide Squid of the Great Wal Mart of China!!!
Duck and cover.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yobDKUDcfQI
AUsome
Money printing is gold's viagra.
Booyah. How long until new highs? 1 month?
http://www.bullionbaron.com
just stopped by my local bullion dealer - there's literally nothing on the shelves except a few old silver coins. stopped by my local bank to see if they had any gold for sale - no dice. who the hell bought up all the gold?
Where are you?
The Bitchez, are taking Silver back down, they cannot afford for it to get loose.
Buy buy buy