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Gold Outpacing Oil YTD As Stocks Disconnect Again

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Late in the day as news broke of Iran nuclear talks, Oil lost some of it sheen and Gold overtook it year-to-date. Gold is now up 3.6% YTD against stocks up 1.9% (and the USD up 0.75%) as we saw stocks on their own today compared to credit markets and broad risk assets. Instead of following yesterday's stability post-Europe, FX (from a USD perspective) continued its uptrend as equities (led by financials - led by BofA on refi rumors) surged into the green as high yield credit, investment grade credit, and high-yield bond ETFs all lost ground on the day. Treasuries did sell-off (directionally correct at least) with stocks rallying but did not move as much on a beta-adjusted basis (even though 30Y is now 16bps wider this year).

US equities (BofA +11.1% YTD against the next best JPM at a mere 3.3% YTD seems - as we said earlier - a little bit of a stretch) disconnected once again from credit markets...

 

..and from broad risk markets in general (CONTEXT).

 

and Gold inches ever closer to its 200DMA and is now outperforming stocks and Oil on the year...

 

 

though the fact that Treasuries did not sell-off as
much as stocks would have 'expected' and the USD strength diverged
dramatically from recent relationships is notable...

 

As EURUSD ends at its worst levels of the day holding under 1.28.

Charts: Bloomberg

 

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Thu, 01/05/2012 - 17:20 | 2036927 Squishi
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 Hummus and gold bitches!

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 17:22 | 2036942 slaughterer
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We have moved from the EuroRumor™ to the AmeriRumor™ in 2 short months.  Anything to keep the clown show from getting rained on.  

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 17:32 | 2036994 OpenEyes
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Don't forget IranRumor™.  You know those guys don't have a Central Bank right?  They're evil those people who don't play with our central banks.

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 17:32 | 2037002 Badabing
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"Gold is now up 3.6% YTD against stocks up 1.9%"

$1361   YTD  $1620 = +18%

 

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 17:21 | 2036938 hugovanderbubble
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 Solars and Renowable Energies¡ Kaput

Call Algore for another doom heated world.

 

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 17:27 | 2036967 lolmao500
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Can you say military coup?

http://p.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jan/4/inside-the-ring-215329133/?...

OBAMA TO SHARE SECRETS

President Obama signaled Congress this week that he is prepared to share U.S. missile defense secrets with Russia.

In the president’s signing statement issued Saturday in passing into law the fiscal 2012 defense authorization bill, Mr. Obama said restrictions aimed at protecting top-secret technical data on U.S. Standard Missile-3 velocity burnout parameters might impinge on his constitutional foreign policy authority.

As first disclosed in this space several weeks ago, U.S. officials are planning to provide Moscow with the SM-3 data, despite reservations from security officials who say that doing so could compromise the effectiveness of the system by allowing Russian weapons technicians to counter the missile. The weapons are considered some of the most effective high-speed interceptors in the U.S. missile defense arsenal.

There are also concerns that Russia could share the secret data with China and rogue states such as Iran and North Korea to help their missile programs defeat U.S. missile defenses.

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 17:27 | 2036969 kito
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jan 5th....ytd....thats funny....more like wtd...........

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 17:29 | 2036978 slaughterer
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Market talk that the S&P downgrade of EZ is postponed till Monday, January 9th.  

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 17:34 | 2037012 J 457
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Source?

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 17:40 | 2037043 lolmao500
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A monday downgrade would sure be awesome in terms of action.

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 17:29 | 2036981 Hulk
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At this rate, we will be at $4100 by years end, and thats OK by me !

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 17:48 | 2037081 DB Cooper
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Easy Laslo.  Put the ruler down.

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 17:51 | 2037094 Hulk
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Hey DB, show me the money !

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 17:31 | 2036989 Cult_of_Reason
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So, No Massive Refinancing Plan Coming After All

The White House has just denied rumors it plans a massive mortgage-refinancing effort, Bloomberg is reporting, poking a hole in today’s rumor-filled market souffle.

Bank of America rose an astounding 8.6% today, easily outpacing a flat market, and way outperforming its poor suffering brethren in Europe, at least partly on rumors that the Obama administration has a big mortgage refinancing plan in the works.

As Joe Weisenthal pointed out earlier, this is not the first time this rumor has floated around, and it’s not entirely clear how much it would help Bank of America, but the stock ripped higher anyway, and eventually pulled the whole market up with it.

After all, as goes Bank of America, so goes the rest of the market.

According to Bloomberg, this rumor will amount to nothing after all.

As for the broader stock market, it was another big Nada Enchilada today, with the Dow down about 3 points (Bank of America didn’t help the price-weighted index much), the S&P up about 4 points and the Nasdaq up about 22 points.

http://blogs.wsj.com/marketbeat/2012/01/05/so-no-massive-refinancing-com...

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 17:33 | 2037006 zorba THE GREEK
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My prediction for 2012 is that gold will end the year higher for the 12th year in a row.

Who said predicting the future is hard? I'll even go one better: I predict that silver will

outperform gold in 2012. How's that for sticking my neck out?

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 18:05 | 2037159 kito
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deflation is a bitch..........beware.............

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 18:37 | 2037282 scatterbrains
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it is until they go in full on print mode. I do agree though that there will be one more deep pull back in the pm's before they crack up boom to the moon. 

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 23:59 | 2038021 Au_Ag_CuPbCu
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Agreed, there is NO FUCKING WAY the Bernank is going to let deflation happen...NO FUCKING WAY.   The banks, his pupet masters' balance sheets would be shit.  NO WAY! Ink em up and start printing.

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 18:12 | 2037181 new game
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zorb, i would say you have a nice set of armor on, and neck pading under the armor.

any sword will take the blow and you are ok. long armor, G & S Phys, lead in its finish good, short jpy and treas.

anything i missed?

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 17:49 | 2037015 slewie the pi-rat
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Late in the day as news broke of Iran nuclear talks,...

we knew that china was happy w/ the whole oil situ...

and it was also fun to watch the Dow futures flipping colors coming down the stretch, in celebration

commodities were generally red and down across the board (but not PMs), giving up some of yesterdays QE-hopeful gains so everyone can continue to be optimistic and pretend inflation won't go ape-shit too soon, this year...

with the fiscal and monetary integrity that goobermints & centralBanksters are exhibiting, i don't see how anything could possibly go wrong, do you?  /s/

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 17:38 | 2037028 SAT 800
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It has nothing to do with any news item; certainly not the one cited. I'm short CL from 102.45 basis June 2012 on the CME. The tone of the market is bearish. Sellers are trying to make deals under spot; etc. it's called supply/demand. Trying to interpret markets by reading news is pitiful at best; and usually very expensive.

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 17:40 | 2037042 SAT 800
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It looks like the prediction of the death of BAC was a little premature. Disclosure; long from $5.76 at two to one margin.

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 18:02 | 2037147 scatterbrains
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I'm seeing mid 8+ still left in this pop in bac coming in the next few days Remember nutsack and crew create the rumors to provide cover for covert manipulation.. doesn't matter if it's all  bullshit or not.

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 17:53 | 2037107 xela2200
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2nd article offering analysis based on YTD number. The Year started 3 days ago. WTF

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 18:25 | 2037240 new game
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must say kinda soon for a trend to make. but wtf, worth a laugh.

maybe this will heat up sooner than I was hoping.  it is an election year.

think of this; soooo much change and flim flam one can't keep up- much less a government bigger than ten titanics.

what happened to corzine and mf/jp squid and chi x? do we even have an atty gen (holder smolder), solar gate, insider traders-sec hopeless.

think about 16,000 cia, military contractors and an virtual minitare dc left behind in iraq, keeping an eye on mideast. tip of iceberg of gov shit going on...one pile to next while last still steaming.

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 18:21 | 2037223 cranky-old-geezer
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And silver has broken correlation with EURUSD again, silver holding steady while EURUSD dropping like a stone.

Euro banks all sold out?  No silver left to sell?  Bankruptcy next?

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 18:50 | 2037327 scatterbrains
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SLV has been trading inverse to TLT lately. Leads me to think it will get flushed on the next panic buying of treasuries.

Thu, 01/05/2012 - 18:24 | 2037233 JTBfromtheWL
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Let's not predict gold prices in dollars anymore. Let us use cans of spam. I hope to be able to buy something useful when the time comes. I'm counting on someone else to bring the confetti. This is going to be a good party, right?

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 01:52 | 2038206 nachtliche
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Considering gold tanked in the past month or so while stocks didn't so much, and oil actually surged, this isn't much news. Gold is just correcting back to where it should be, or rather it has quite a bit of upside recovery to go. Nothing to get very excited about. 

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Fri, 01/06/2012 - 08:47 | 2038656 theyenguy
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Gold is indeed again on the rise, as on going currency debasement by the world central banks has finally had a major consequence. Today, June 5, 2011, was a pivotal day in financial history, as all forms of fiat wealth, that is currencies, stocks, commodities, and bonds, turned lower in value, while gold increased in value. Bad central bank credit policies have destabilized all fiat financial instruments, especially global financials, IXG, and world treasury bonds, BWX. Diktat is rising as a form of money, which is driving the world into regionalization for security and stability. A Global Eurasia war will be waged in Syria and Iran.

Fears of sovereign insolvency and banking insolvency turned currencies, stocks, commodities, and bonds lower today.

World Currencies and Emerging Market Currencies traded lower.

The trade lower in Germany’s Deutsche Bank, and Spain’s Banco Santander, lead European Financials, lower, which turned World Financials, lower. Spain, Italy, and lead Europe, lower.

Falling currencies turned the world’s mining stocks and the world’s mining and steel ETFs lower. Energy stocks also turned lower today. Natural resource investing became more unprofitable due to falling currency values. Debt deflation and exhaustion of central bank credit, is causing an unwinding of carry trade investment and stimulating derisking out of natural resource stocks worldwide.

It is the world central banks’ bad credit policies that are making money bad -- Bad money is destabilizing the world economically and politically. The investment, political and economic tectonic plates are shifting, and an authoritarian tsunami is on the way.

Seigniorage, that is moneyness, will no longer come from banking and national governments, but rather come from the diktat of regional sovereigns. Currencies are now sinking, and global financial derisking and deleveraging is underway, with the result that the new dynamo of diktat is driving economic and political action. Political capital is replacing investment capital. The seigniorage of fiat money, is being replaced by the seigniorage of diktat.

Regional global governance is rising to replace sovereign nation states, as nations loose their debt sovereignty. Life in the Euro zone will be characterised by collectivism, as statism rises to govern all. We are witnessing the unfolding of bible prophecy of Revelation 13:1-4 and Daniel 2:31-44 where a Beast Regime of regional global govenance comes to rule in all of mankind's seven institutions and in all of the world's ten regions.

For more detailed commentary:  http://tinyurl.com/87pgatp

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