Gold To Top $2,000 On Central Bank Buying: Bloomberg Chart Of The Day

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Fri, 10/14/2011 - 07:31 | 1772791 HUGE_Gamma
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the Iranians are on the cutting edge of nuclear transmutation, the stability of the worlds monetary system is in danger if they start dumping gold coins and platinum bars on the comex and lme by the tons. the united states and israel must destroy those reactors before its too late. 

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 07:33 | 1772802 achmachat
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so I guess you're going to repeat this moronic nonsense on each thread about precious metals here?

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 07:52 | 1772832 HUGE_Gamma
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im setting the record straight about down arrows

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 07:55 | 1772843 kito
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That record belongs to robo...and you aint robo

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 09:09 | 1773032 Smiddywesson
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I'm not so sure Robo is Robo.  He knows too much to be anything other than a sock puppet used to rile us up.

Go Robo!

Sat, 10/15/2011 - 12:45 | 1777033 Pinto Currency
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Seems to me the real story is European, Middle Eastern and Asian retail physical metal buying driving gold higher. 

Central banks buying surely helps in the market while the pounding of gold and silver prices through the paper forward & futures market is causing real shortages of physical metal.

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 08:37 | 1772928 HoofHearted
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Yeah, nuclear Iran would surely make people much more confident about fiat, wouldn't it? Can you think beyond one issue? Or are you a typical American Idol watcher?

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 11:48 | 1773933 Jack Napier
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The concept is that precious metals can be made radioactive. It's not out of the quesion. A geiger counter would be prudent.

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 07:35 | 1772805 LongSoupLine
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With auto sales skyrocketing in the middle east, I propose we develop an enormous glass parking lot somewhere in their central region...say, ohhh somewhere around ancient Persia perhaps.  It's simply a logical business decision, nothing personal.

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 07:37 | 1772809 AndItsGone
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Don't you have a $0.37 check from David Axelrod's astroturfing company to cash?

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 07:38 | 1772812 Esso
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Soooooo, did you forget your [/sarc] tag, or are you just a retard?

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 07:41 | 1772818 JenkinsLane
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Gee, I wonder why you think that? I wouldn't know, I'm just a dummy.

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 09:23 | 1773107 caconhma
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Italians have Mafia.

Jews have Zionism.  Zionism is the Jewish Mafia. Their purpose is to destroy the USA, its economy, and its democratic institutions.

As for Israel, it is not any different from South Africa 20-30 years ago. Israel is a racist & militaristic state. Its future will not be any different than of the old racist South Africa.

As for America and its people, we do NOT need any WWIII. We do not need our people dying for Israel!


Fri, 10/14/2011 - 10:08 | 1773299 Abitdodgie
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Why not if they are stupid enough to go , let them

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 11:52 | 1773954 Jack Napier
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While they're at it, they ought to destroy your kitchen microwave and laptop.

Sat, 10/15/2011 - 17:09 | 1777596 Black Friday
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If they just dumped bars on the open market it would lower the value of their own product, a product that already cost way more in energy than could ever be recouped at even 10X the current market price, and a product that would most likely be highly radioactive.

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 07:30 | 1772792 LongSoupLine
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"He who has the gold..."


Fri, 10/14/2011 - 07:30 | 1772793 GeneMarchbanks
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Methinks China has at least double what they report.

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 07:35 | 1772804 BigJim
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Methinks you're probably onto something there.

Methinks the same goes for Saudi, Iran, Kuwait, etc, etc.

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 09:19 | 1773082 Smiddywesson
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I guess this is a good place to address this.  I used to think that all the world's central banks were in on this, slowly acquiring gold according to some agreed upon schedule to avoid running up the price on themselves.  I don't think that proved out. 

Obviously some countries are buying gold and not reporting their holdings, but I think others are coming late to the table and are just starting to realize that the Fed and the ECB are scheming to screw everyone.  Clearly Venezuela now gets it, and wants to take possession of their gold.  I think from here on out other nations are likely to ramp up their gold purchases to try to catch up and replace their foreign reserves with gold. 

We're coming into the home stretch where 75% of the US reserves are in gold and nations are dumping treasuries.  Any one of these factors, panicked buying by central banks without gold, the US and ECB reaching target 100% gold reserves, or worldwide dumping of treasuries, could bring about End Game where a new system is announced and the price of gold is intentionally ramped.  If anyone plans on doing any more stacking of physical, I would strongly recommend doing it this month.

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 09:49 | 1773224 Panic Panic Panic
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You've convinced me.  It's a BK triple stacker for lunch today!  To Hell with cholesterol!

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 07:38 | 1772813 LongSoupLine
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That's crazy talk...after all, Bernank said gold is not money.  Why would they waste their time on such a silly yellow element?

Long cotton and linen futures.

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 08:46 | 1772950 Long-John-Silver
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Gold is backed by nothing. That's what a young lady told me just a few days ago.

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 09:22 | 1773101 Smiddywesson
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Hee, hee, that statement will live forever as the stupidest financial comment ever made.

It's an immortal sybol of the mental control exerted over the last century

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 15:34 | 1774920 Thisson
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It's true! That's why everyone should get themselves into a rock solid currency like the ZIM:



Fri, 10/14/2011 - 08:35 | 1772925 terryfuckwit
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dead right you are.. but is there any chance of any event that would expose the lying bastards.. and thats all the lying bastards including the chinese to accurately account for their gold reserves... just a guessing game until it is needed for something...

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 09:54 | 1773251 moondog
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These countries need to keep their gold totals to themselves. Nobody wants to be the next Libya. I wonder how history would be different if Libya had nukes? 

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 07:31 | 1772794 Gringo Viejo
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Keen sense of the obvious.

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 07:32 | 1772796 BigJim
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...World Gold Council data show. Gold accounts for 75.4% of the U.S.’s reserves and 72.7% of Germany’s.

I wonder how much of Germany's gold is sitting in the FRBNY's vaults?

Good luck getting that back when the SHTF, guys.

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 07:54 | 1772841 Esso
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That's really good thinking on Germany's part.

I think I'll unload my vault and give my goods to my bankrupt neighbor for safekeeping. I'll be able to get it anytime I want because he's just across the street.

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 09:25 | 1773119 Smiddywesson
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...World Gold Council data show. Gold accounts for 75.4% of the U.S.’s reserves and 72.7% of Germany’s.

I wonder how much of Germany's gold is sitting in the FRBNY's vaults?

Good luck getting that back when the SHTF, guys.

Rubbish.  The Fed and the ECB are marching in lock step to pull this off.  They intend to stay on top of the world power structure and won't endanger that by fighting each other.

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 14:36 | 1774680 faustian bargain
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History is replete with examples of such allies becoming enemies.

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 07:32 | 1772797 broke433
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Gold may reach 2000 = 300 dollar gain.

Gold may fall to 1200 = 500 dollar loss.

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 10:54 | 1773596 baby_BLYTHE
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Well since everyone is so darn bearish on Gold, looks like its time to buy.

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 11:21 | 1773769 Johnny Lawrence
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Disagree.  Right before the recent big decline in gold, every brokerage firm under the sun increased their gold targets to ~$2k.


Fri, 10/14/2011 - 14:37 | 1773899 baby_BLYTHE
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Gold falling from the peak of 1900-1200 is that not a bubble? There is no way gold can be a bubble with all the money that has been printed worldwide, 0% interest rates, debt/gdp ratios 90%+, unfunded liabilities... I could go on.

Now everyone on ZH is lock step staying gold is a bubble?

I dearly miss the old ZH. The debates, discussions, in depth analysis many users presented, even the old trolls (Masterbates, Johnny Bravo, Harry Wanger) even Robo was better back in the day.

The changing of times :/

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 07:33 | 1772801 broke433
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Paulson sells gold = $500 gold

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 07:36 | 1772808 qussl3
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Paulson holds GLD.

If he liquidates there are big fish waiting to pick up blocks on the cheap just to redeem baskets.


Fri, 10/14/2011 - 07:38 | 1772815 achmachat
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ever thought about how unaffordable physical gold and silver would be if SLV and GLD didn't exist?

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 09:27 | 1773123 Smiddywesson
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Why guess, you're about to experience it yourself very soon.

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 14:39 | 1774687 faustian bargain
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...because buying less than an ounce is soo complicated.

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 07:38 | 1772811 BigJim
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$500 dollar gold = BigJim owning a lot more gold.

And yes, you can eat it. Over and over again.

I'd recommend giving it a wash in between, though.

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 07:50 | 1772836 apberusdisvet
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The WGC is a propaganda arm of the bullion banksters.  There is much anecdotal evidence that countries in the ME own far more gold than stated and the numbers for Russia and China are suspect.  The larger issue in the supposed holdings of the US and Germany.  It has oft been postulated that there are many "owners" of the same bars in the various vaults.

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 09:29 | 1773137 Smiddywesson
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The central bankers have had years to replace those bars.  They are clearly buying, and God and Ben only know how much.  They would be fools to not replace them when gold is so cheap.  You can bet the gold is there.  It may not have been before, but it's there now.

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 07:55 | 1772839 JonNadler
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you still can't eat gold even if it goes to 2000

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 09:14 | 1773056 Clint Liquor
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But fiat is always delicious and nutrious.

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 16:03 | 1775039 Chaffinch
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And it's high fibre, so very good for the bowels.

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 08:14 | 1772844 JustObserving
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All the gold mined in human history is about 5.3 billion ounces.  Some of it may be lost. A very fair optimistic estimate of all the value of gold in this world may be about $8 trillion.

Now compare that to US debt of $15 trillion and unfunded liabilities of $116 trillion (per and growing at $8.6 trillion a year.

Or compare that to the value of land in Beijing in January 2011:

"According to the China Economic Weekly magazine, property prices are currently so high that the total value of land in Beijing, estimated at 130 trillion Chinese yuan (US$19.74 trillion), surpassed the United States' gross domestic product of US$14.5 trillion for 2010."

Gold goes much higher than  $2000 - and sooner than most think.


Fri, 10/14/2011 - 10:16 | 1773344 Smiddywesson
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Gold goes much higher than  $2000 - and sooner than most think.

Yes, the change in prices has to be unanticipated and violent for TPTB (those that can ramp the price and stand to profit from it) to reap the most rewards.  This isn't the housing industry where price discovery happens over the course of months and months.  When gold pops, there will be no opportunity for the common man to jump aboard.

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 08:00 | 1772851 Chaffinch
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The Central Banks are in a giant poker game - some will be bluffing by exaggerating their holdings, but my bet would be that they are more likely to have some other gold they are keeping secret (maybe just by extending the delay factor for announcing their purchases).
I suppose we have to allow for the possibility that some of them might be telling the truth - but the only thing I am sure of is that they want it badly (confirmed by Ben feigning complete disinterest) and the price is going up, this year, next year, and the year afterwards.

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