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'Golden Cross' For Gold And Silver Signals Further Gains

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'Golden Cross' For Gold and Silver Signals Further Gains

Today’s AM fix was USD 1,760.00, EUR 1,360.33 and GBP 1,088.03 per ounce.
Yesterday’s AM fix was USD 1,774.50, EUR 1,361.44 and GBP 1,092.54 per ounce.

Silver is trading at $34.31/oz, €26.61/oz and £21.28/oz. Platinum is trading at $1,619.50/oz, palladium at $663.50/oz and rhodium at $1,225/oz.

Gold fell $0.10 or 0.01% in New York yesterday and closed at $1,770.50. Silver hit $34.958 in Asia and fell to $34.27 in early New York trade and it then bounced back higher, but finished with a loss of 0.49%.

Gold edged down today due to dollar strength and profit taking as speculators and some investors booked profits on 16% price gains from this year’s low.

Gold continues to see smart money diversification as central banks from the ECB and the Fed to the BOJ have all announced ‘stimulus’ or money debasement measures which has led investors to seek gold as an inflation hedge.

All eyes will be on China as perhaps the next to announce action after today’s data showed further contraction in its manufacturing sector for the 11th consecutive month. 

The UK will then follow and then other central banks may announce their own measures as competitive currency devaluations or currency wars intensify in the coming months. 

We have seen consecutive weeks of bullish strength in the gold and silver markets. Gold has completed what is known as a ‘Golden Cross’ and silver is poised to complete one in the coming days.

A ‘Golden Cross’ occurs when not only the current price, but also shorter-term moving averages such as the 50 day moving average “cross” or rise above the longer term 200 day moving average.

Gold’s 50 day moving average (simple) has risen to $1,651/oz and is now comfortable above the 200 day moving average (simple) at $1,645/oz and accelerating higher.

Silver’s 50 day moving average (simple) has risen to $29.86/oz and will soon challenge the 200 day moving average (simple) at $30.47/oz.

These are important indicators of longer term technical strength and in conjunction with the recent positive technical picture are bullish.  

The 18 months of sideways-to-lower price action has “built a base”, a very large foundational base, in markets that are in the middle of two of the longest and strongest bull markets in history. 

It is another indication that both markets are capable of moving higher in the coming months.

John Bollinger the president of BollingerBands.com said in January that “the golden cross is a great tool in a big, roaring bull market, like the bull market from 1982 to 1998, when it tells you when you’re supposed to be in the market and tells you periods in which the risk is somewhat higher of corrections and such,” he said.

Gold and silver are in such secular bull markets and the combination of these long term bull markets, the recently trending higher markets and the 'Golden Cross' is important technically.

The last time there was a 'Golden Cross' for gold was in early February 2009 (see chart) and gold subsequently rose 103% in the next two years.

Similar gains are quite possible today given the strong fundamentals. Were gold to replicate those gains, it could see gold rise to double today's value of $1,756/oz or to over $3,500/oz.

Silver, too, saw a ‘golden cross’ in late February 2009 when silver was trading at under $14/oz.

It subsequently surged 257% to over $49/oz in April 2011 for a 257% increase in just 2 years and 2 months. Given silver’s very strong fundamentals similar gains may be seen in the coming months.

As ever physical bullion should not be bought in expectation of capital gains. They have the potential to reward with massive capital gains but they should be bought for diversification and financial insurance reasons.

For breaking news and commentary on financial markets and gold, follow us on Twitter.

NEWSWIRE
(Bloomberg) -- Swiss Monthly Imports, Exports of Platinum-Group Metals
The following is a table of monthly Swiss imports and exports of platinum, palladium and rhodium. The figures include raw form or powder and half-processed material, and were sent in an e-mail by the Swiss Federal Customs Administration. Amounts are in kilograms. One kilogram equals 2.2 pounds.

Imports
                     August 2012         July 2012       Total 2012

Platinum          2,503 Kg          3,068 Kg        21,593 Kg

Palladium           822 Kg          1,331 Kg        13,329 Kg

Rhodium               3 Kg             34 Kg           121 Kg

Exports
                        August 2012         July 2012       Total 2012

Platinum            905 Kg          3,171 Kg        24,185 Kg

Palladium           345 Kg          1,772 Kg        29,545 Kg

Rhodium               0 Kg             25 Kg            45 Kg

(Bloomberg) -- Gold, Silver Futures in Shanghai Retreat; Cash Bullion Declines
Gold for December delivery fell as much as 0.4 percent to 363.95 yuan a gram ($1,793.77 an ounce) on the Shanghai Futures Exchange, and was at 364.24 yuan at 9:03 a.m. Singapore time. December-delivery silver lost as much as 0.9 percent to 7,366 yuan per kilogram, before trading at 7,376 yuan.

Cash gold of 99.99 percent purity slid as much as 0.5 percent to 359.32 yuan a gram on the Shanghai Gold Exchange, and last traded at 360.25 yuan. Volumes for the benchmark contract on the country’s largest cash bullion market were 3,309 kilograms yesterday, from 4,449 kilograms on Sept. 18.

(Bloomberg) -- CICC Raises Gold, Silver Prices Forecast After QE3
Gold prices may rise to $1,850 and $1,950 an ounce at the end of 2012 and at the end of 2013, respectively, as the U.S.’s quantitative easing materializes and as lower real interest rates, weaker 

US dollar and stronger investment demand will lift the precious metal’s prices, the China International Capital Corp. Said in an e-mailed report today.

Silver will outperform gold thanks to its higher price resilience, the report said, without giving details.

(Bloomberg) -- Gold ETP Holdings Jump for 11th Straight Day to Record 
Gold holdings in exchange-traded products backed by the metal rose to a record for the 11th straight session.

The amount jumped 10.86 metric tons to 2,517.15 tons, data tracked by Bloomberg showed.

(Bloomberg) -- Credit Suisse Client Survey Sees Gold Above $2,000 in a Year
Gold will be above $2,000 an ounce in one year, according to 33 percent of about 160 clients surveyed by Credit Suisse Group AG.

Forty percent of the clients said commodities would be at least 10 percent higher in a year, and 13 percent said they would be at least 10 percent lower, according to the survey conducted yesterday and provided to reporters in London today. 

(Bloomberg) -- Zimbabwe Says Foreign-Owned Platinum Mines Meet Ownership Law
Majority of foreign-owned mines comply with govt’s plans to finalize transfer of majority stakes to local black investors, Empowerment Minister Saviour Kasukuwere says at National Indigenization and Economic Board conference in the capital, Harare.

"The mining sector, that area is now compliant,’’ Kasukuwere says. “Zimplats, Mimosa Platinum and Unki Platinum are done deals”

NOTE: Mimosa Platinum is a joint venture between Impala Platinum and Aquarius; Unki Platinum is owned by Anglo American Platinum

(Bloomberg) -- Standard Chartered Says Gold Prices Will Average $1,875 in 2013
Gold will average $1,875 an ounce next year, Standard Chartered Plc said in a report dated yesterday.


Cross Currency Table – (Bloomberg)

NEWS

Gold slips from six-and-a-half-month top, waiting for China action - Reuters

Gold down as investors take profits – Sydney Morning Herald

Gold futures gain after Bank of Japan move – Market Watch

Gold Rises to 29-Week High on Stimulus by Central Banks - Bloomberg

COMMENTARY

‘Golden Cross’ May Signal Big Gold Gains Ahead - CNBC

Deutsche Bank: Gold Is Money- Zero Hedge

The Trouble with Printing Money - GoldSeek

Monetary Schizophrenia In Germany – Testosterone Pit

Embry - We’re Witnessing A Historic & Frightening End Game – King World News

 


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Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:16 | Link to Comment Debtonation
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I don't understand why gold hasn't passed $2000 with QE infinity in the works.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:17 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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Gotta spend all that money on something.

 

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:28 | Link to Comment Levadiakos
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Having trouble getting decent loan/value on my $2500/oz gold. Strange.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:33 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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Not sure what the problem is.....I got a $80,000 loan on my Volt.

 

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 10:54 | Link to Comment Thomas
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I yearn for the Golden Shower.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 17:51 | Link to Comment smiler03
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"I don't understand why gold hasn't passed $2000 with QE infinity in the works."

 

The answer is very simple.

It isn't worth it.

Gold has been range bound since qefinity. It isn't going higher anytime soon. -1 please from all the goldbugs, not that you need to be asked.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 18:28 | Link to Comment akak
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It isn't worth it.  It isn't going higher anytime soon.

Yeah, I am going to take the unilateral and entirely unsubstantiated pronouncement of an arrogant, police-state-and-fiat loving piece of Eurotrash over the collective decision of millions of investors in the market on the true value of gold, or anything else.  Monomaniac much?

Gold has been range bound since qefinity.

What the fuck are you talking about?  Ignoring the sharp upward spike in price immediately following Bernanke's speech, we are talking about a total span of one week since --- hardly a significant period of time over which to talk about something being "rangebound".  Such egregious poor-mouthing is worthy of the gold-hating snake Jon Nadler himself.

Besides which, QE has VERY little to do with the price or the value of gold --- just look at its steady price advancement from 2001 to 2008 for proof of that.  And beyond that, do you REALLY think that the debasement of the US dollar has stopped dead in its tracks, to justify an indefinite halt in the rise of the price of gold?

Really, such blinkered stupidity is insulting to even address.

You don't have a brother named "AnAnonymous", do you?

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 18:53 | Link to Comment RockyRacoon
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MasterBates is back!  We get one o' these guys periodically.  I fondly recall the musings of some of the more hard-headed.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 11:24 | Link to Comment smiler03
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Akak, "Yeah, I am going to take the unilateral and entirely unsubstantiated pronouncement of an arrogant, police-state-and-fiat loving piece of Eurotrash "

Ad Hominem much? You really really do need to relax. 

Did you actually pay any attention whatsoever that I was addressing this question

"I don't understand why gold hasn't passed $2000 with QE infinity in the works."? Why didn't you insult that poster?

What you replied to me, is EXACTLY applicable to the OP.

"What the fuck are you talking about?  Ignoring the sharp upward spike in price immediately following Bernanke's speech, we are talking about a total span of one week since --- hardly a significant period of time over which to talk about something being "rangebound".  Such egregious poor-mouthing is worthy of the gold-hating snake Jon Nadler himself.

Besides which, QE has VERY little to do with the price or the value of gold --- just look at its steady price advancement from 2001 to 2008 for proof of that.  And beyond that, do you REALLY think that the debasement of the US dollar has stopped dead in its tracks, to justify an indefinite halt in the rise of the price of gold?"

But you're the finest example of humanity on ZH. I think I love you. Asshole.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:19 | Link to Comment BaBaBouy
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Don' Worry ... GOLD $50K Bitchies <<<

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:23 | Link to Comment kito
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right.....and eggs will be $100 bucks a carton....bitchez................................

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:26 | Link to Comment oddjob
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Your record on Gold so far has been less than stellar, maybe eggs are a better trade for you.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:30 | Link to Comment Levadiakos
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You still waiting for a bailout on your $50/oz silver?

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:33 | Link to Comment oddjob
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The only bailouts so far have gone to sorry ass paperbugz that sold silver they don't own.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:36 | Link to Comment kito
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you dont read well, do you? what call on gold have i made that has been erroneous? that gold will hit $2000 only if qe3 was announced? .........my point on gold has been that when the entire world implodes on itself, its taking gold prices with it..................in fact its going to take every asset with it, except physical dollars, which will be very hard to come by when banking holidays kick in...................im not saying dont own any gold, because if the worst case scenario ever happened, gold will have its use in barter.....but in a mad max scenario, id still rather own items that are needed and can be bartered........food, fuel, first aid items, tools, ammo, etc..........................................

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:57 | Link to Comment oddjob
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I'll agree with you on some points. Before turning to saving in PM's, a person should pay off all debt, move to a rural area(preferably in an unincorporated municiplality) and learn to provide their own sustenance.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 11:05 | Link to Comment Bay of Pigs
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And let me be the first to junk you on that theory.

The USD will be no store of value. It wil be inflated away to nothing. The FED itself has said that, not just me.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 14:19 | Link to Comment kito
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he wouldnt have time to inflate it away to confetti. a giant delveraging will come first. 

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 16:10 | Link to Comment Bay of Pigs
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I don't know what you're looking at or thinking anymore kito.

Its inflate or die and they are inflating at an ever increasing rate. 

 

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 12:19 | Link to Comment WhiteNight123129
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Higher Gold price is part of the solution, this is the psychological tool necessary to get the Rich and Corporations to spend their dollars first. SEcond if push comes to shove, pegging the dollar to Gold at a very high price is the way to liquidate all debt and move price structure upward, but we are not going to get there. We need fear a lot of fear and inflation expectation to rise to get the dollar hoarders to spend. Gold price higher is the friend of Fed forcing the corporations to spend.

 

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:38 | Link to Comment kito
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oh, and oddjob, if things get end of worldish, you can keep your gold, i will stick with egg laying hens.................

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 11:22 | Link to Comment RSloane
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Actually, if there is a Mad Max type of world economic meltdown, you would be far better to trade in hides. Hens are too difficult to protect. Try something more portable.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 11:26 | Link to Comment hapless
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Dead chickens don't lay eggs.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 13:34 | Link to Comment FeralSerf
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Live chickens need to be fed.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 18:02 | Link to Comment smiler03
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Free range chickens are quite capable of feeding themselves.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 12:32 | Link to Comment WhiteNight123129
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KIto, people like you create the problem. If everyone would hoard paper dollar confusing it with Gold, we have the situation of the idiot japanese consumer (I am not saying you are the idiot). But if everyone is hoarding paper dollar bills it is catastrophe guaranteed. But the Fed has cornered the bond markets fortunately and will quickly distort inflation expectation which teh Japanese BOJ failed to do. The BOJ should have bought all gov bonds and start to play around with the yield and torture deflationist like you into spending your cash. Look at Fisher look at the inflation expectations post QE3. THey will torture every hoarder of cash into submission, be part of hte good guy, hoard Gold, not cash, do not commit Japanese suicide. In 1933 it was very easy to induce people to spend because Gold always had this function of redeemable money on which you can not create inflation, in 21st century we have weirdos who confuse redeemable with iredeemable money (I am not saying you are a weirdo). If push comes to shove people like you hoarding dollars will force the US into another war and force the paper hoarders to surrender, do not be silly... Spend your cash or hoard PMs to force the psychological pressure on the others. Do not fight the Fed, given how much of the US Gov debt% they own, they will do what they see fit with inflation expectations, and yield curve manipulation, and torture the dollar hoarders into submission, but first in order to manipulate the yield curve you need to buy all of the bonds, which was the purpose of twist I guess. Anyway if it does not work war is always an option and watch your paper burn, 100% guaranteed. Check prices in Napoleonic wars, in Civil War, and in World War II, always work to jack up prices and force circulation up. Help the Fed force Corporations to dishoard cash, buy Gold.

 

 

 

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 18:47 | Link to Comment akak
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Kito said:

oh, and oddjob, if things get end of worldish, you can keep your gold, i will stick with egg laying hens.................

Kito, I really have to ask you: what is up with you deflationists and your absurd black-and-white dichotomies?  It is always "Deflation or Hyperinflation" and "Status-quo or End-of-the-World" with you guys.

What if things do NOT become "end of worldish", but merely quite bad --- as is much more likely?  What if the US dollar (and every other fiat currency) does not implode into complete worthlessness, but "merely" loses 50% or 90% of its value in a sudden currency crisis --- as is again much more likely? 

Please, do us the courtesy of leaving your strawmen at home.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:30 | Link to Comment BaBaBouy
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Then just buy a couple of Chickens, Bitchez...

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 11:32 | Link to Comment SwimmininNawlins
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All those damn chickens that I've been supporting will finally pay off!

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 12:35 | Link to Comment silverserfer
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chickens have an extremely high counterparty risk. Plus, you cant stack them very well.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 15:51 | Link to Comment Likstane
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Find two or three chickens that lay golden eggs; and don't take them fishing. 

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 00:56 | Link to Comment Stares straight...
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100 Bucks!

Good pun, Rooster-boy!

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:24 | Link to Comment Gief Gold Plox
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Nice. Though I'd like GOLD 50lbs even better.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:34 | Link to Comment DoChenRollingBearing
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@ BaBaBouy

+ 1

But gold at $50,000 will not help all the families that had to sell their gold here in Italy recently (ZH story not long ago, and to be commented on at my blog in a week or so).  Apparently the same has already happened in Portugal.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 11:26 | Link to Comment noses
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They wouldn't need help and still had their gold if they hadn't spent more than they had on nonsense. Darwin has replaced hunger and drugs by consumer credits for iTrinkets.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:29 | Link to Comment giovanni_f
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"Fed will tighten as soon as 2015"

Graham Summers

/sarc

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:29 | Link to Comment kito
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@debtonation

its called DEFLATION.......its ben trying to plug a gaping hole in the shadow banking ship with a thimble............lots of electronic dollars getting burned up at a rapid rate, only to be replaced with more electronic dollars............very little of this money is able to find its way out of the black hole and into the mainstream economy...................

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:45 | Link to Comment Debtonation
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Well I doubt it's going to just sit at the Fed as excess reserves forever.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 10:23 | Link to Comment Papasmurf
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Those electronic dollars aren't getting burned up, they were stolen a long time ago.  The problem comes when the theft is discovered, not during the theft.  Every "financial crisis" has followed that pattern, with the crisis unfolding when the looting is discovered.  It's different this time though, because we are still discovering the magnitude of the theft.  Because no one has ever been prosecuted, the theft continues unabated.  So the void left where the stolen money used to be grows larger into a huge chasm.  The problem can't be solved without reestablilshing the rule of law by punishing the thieves.  Clearly there is no intention of solving the problem.  The problem will clear itself through collapse.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 12:05 | Link to Comment WhiteNight123129
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What price of Gold will it take for ORCL, AAPL, GOOG, and MSFT to spend their cash?

BUffet is not dum he got rid of cash without being too picky on the price at which he was buying back his stock. Fed is like the soldier in Irak banging each door with his gun to see if there is an enemy combatant. Here the Bernanke is the soldier, the gun is the printing press, and he is banging the door of corporations with his printing gun, those guys are going to get shot for real on their cash (hyperinflation) if they do not surrender and spend, fucking monetary ignorant rich people.

Are those guys as dum as the Japanese consumer who thinks that Yen = Gold making teh deflation self-fullfilling? They will have a nervous breakdown with teh Gold price moving up and up they will be forced to spend, but damn they are slow to get it. They look like deers in the lights those corporations, they fret about demand but they fret about holding their cash, at some point they will fret a lot about holding their cash. For now they think the solution is acquisitions and downsizing, this part of the use of cash should be curtailed by Congress.

I guess it will take a very high price to force them to use their cash, because even in financial markets we have a 99% ignorance of how the economy works, so imagine a CFO!!. I guess maybe guys like Soros, Rogers, Dalio get it.

Watch when those guys spend their cash and when the long bond and inflation expectation soar, you would see Bernanke stop printing, he will put back the gun in its place. Financial repression is there for a reason... I guess Soros sold his Gold last year because he thought that was happening back in 2011, long bond yields were nicely at 4.5%,  that was too early... and he bought back.

When you see that happen, watch for correction, it seems that Fed is going to print through the whole of 2013, but buy back your Gold because the only reason the Fed will stop buying bonds is because inflation is coming finally. Bring the rain on the dry land Benny and fuck the bondholders big time.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:35 | Link to Comment midtowng
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Because if gold shoots up all at once, and for an obvious reason, then the sheeple will notice.

Bull markets aren't for sheeple, except for the blow-off top when its time to dump your holdings.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:51 | Link to Comment Death and Gravity
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It'll get there.

So far, Bernanke & Draghi are merely jawboning. There's no actual paper on the table.

Yet.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 22:04 | Link to Comment DosZap
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I don't understand why gold hasn't passed $2000 with QE infinity in the works.

One word, SHORTS.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:16 | Link to Comment Flakmeister
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Are we rich yet?

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:19 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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Yes....on paper.

 

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:19 | Link to Comment Mr. Fix
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Nice!

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:19 | Link to Comment JailBank
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So margin hikes can be expected?

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:21 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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Make them 100% on all commodities, then who will the banking puppets blame for the rising prices?

Bloody sheep.  So many paper promise, so little assets of real value.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:20 | Link to Comment new game
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slowly but surely we will get there.

patience

higher lows for shorter duration and higher highs

thanks a trillion CBers

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:21 | Link to Comment Gief Gold Plox
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I thought technical analysis is a remnant of the old times, the ages passed, stuff of legends, ... and so on.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:24 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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When GAAP actually meant something.

 

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:28 | Link to Comment Rochefort10
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Google Translate suggests GAAP is the Dutch word for JAWN

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 10:10 | Link to Comment MachoMan
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GAAP still means something...  just in chive world.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:23 | Link to Comment HurricaneSeason
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Bullish tungsten

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:24 | Link to Comment Monedas
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Soon enough we'll all get our "Million Dollar Bonus" !      Patience, grasshopper bitchez !

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:35 | Link to Comment DoChenRollingBearing
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Excellent!

+ 1

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:46 | Link to Comment Long-John-Silver
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We'll all be Billionaires soon!  (opens in new window)

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 10:19 | Link to Comment Crash N. Burn
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"Starving Billionaire" - lmao

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:25 | Link to Comment crusty curmudgeon
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Sad to think of needing a technical analyst to tell me it's a good time to buy gold or silver.

Liberty without learning is always in peril and learning without liberty is always in vain.  President John F. Kennedy

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:30 | Link to Comment LynRobison
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Hmm, you had me until you said, "As ever physical bullion should not be bought in expectation of capital gains."

Perhaps you should have said, "As ever physical bullion should be bought to preserve your wealth as this massive ponzi scheme unwinds and then collapses."

 

 

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:30 | Link to Comment Levadiakos
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Gold is a hedge. Nothing more.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:35 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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Dig down 5 miles and get me some that that.

 

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 19:01 | Link to Comment RockyRacoon
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"Gold is a hedge"   ---  Yes! And I'm having a burning bush experience.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 19:15 | Link to Comment akak
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They have ointments for that you know.

Fri, 09/21/2012 - 00:20 | Link to Comment RockyRacoon
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I prefer Gold Bond powder.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:32 | Link to Comment new game
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the charts are a thing of beauty right now.

so my thought and question is if phy silver in short supply, when will the real price action take place?

can only fake the real thing so long, somebody/entity is going to be pissed when the shit is there...

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:33 | Link to Comment Monedas
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Kitco in bankruptcy proceedings ?   Banned for life Monedas solvent !  How sweet 'tis !

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:36 | Link to Comment DoChenRollingBearing
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Ha ha!  Too bad for you!

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 11:44 | Link to Comment ParkAveFlasher
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How do you get banned for life from Kitco?  Did you unleash the comedy jihad too fervently? 

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 12:43 | Link to Comment silverserfer
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 Park ave, by talking as if you weren't in a kindergarden classroom.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:37 | Link to Comment q99x2
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At least something of mine is going up these days.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:45 | Link to Comment disabledvet
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And you never had to tell me to look at a chart of Railroad equities. Up, up and AWAYYYYYY for 150 years straight! "and his name was Henry Adams" in case you were wondering...

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:48 | Link to Comment disabledvet
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BTW...Very clever scheme Mr. Chairman. They say you did it "without voyeur aid and as such not giving comfort to the enemy." And I believe them.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:49 | Link to Comment robertocarlos
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Gold was too expensive for me at $750 and now it's way too expensive for me at $1750.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 10:02 | Link to Comment Peter Pan
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So what willit be when it doubles in real value?

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 10:04 | Link to Comment robertocarlos
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$7000?

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 10:09 | Link to Comment gun4A
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That's why you will buy it with both hands at $5,000

:)

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 10:00 | Link to Comment Peter Pan
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Gold does not need any further discussion. After 5000 years of proven performance you either understand it or you don't and you either have it or you don't.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 09:57 | Link to Comment yogibear
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It's the Federal Reserve's Weimar Republic economic plan.

They won't and can't raise rates even if inflation gets ridiculous. 

Just more efforts to conceal the real numbers until it becomes obvious to the public where prices increase daily.

 

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 10:04 | Link to Comment apberusdisvet
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Be careful, folks:  another big smackdown could be coming.  The banksters have added to their short positions; they are scared to death of the December positions in both gold and silver.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 10:30 | Link to Comment crusty curmudgeon
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Be careful of a buying opportunity?

"Living within the lie can constitute the system only if it is universal."  -Vaclav Havel

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 22:19 | Link to Comment DosZap
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Be careful, folks: another big smackdown could be coming. The banksters have added to their short positions; they are scared to death of the December positions in both gold and silver.

 

Oh, there will be one, just the problem is, every time they have done it, it always comes back to HIGHER LOWS,and this amigo will be the ultimate undoing of Crimex,and the maNNippleaturs.

Also do not forget we have been trading sideways for a spell, and traditionally October and Dec are the STRONGEST months for the PM sectors.

Esp Gold.  Time is on PM's side.............unless we go parabolic.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 11:36 | Link to Comment one_fell_swoop
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Ignore these rubbish technical analysis "signals", golden cross my a$$

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 12:00 | Link to Comment ActionFive
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Well, they can't troll out the 'PMs won't move without overt QE3' meme anymore.

That has not done the trick either.

Guess it was state manipulation after all..

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 12:44 | Link to Comment serog
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Do we need to dumb it down a little for you?

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 17:12 | Link to Comment ActionFive
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No, it was/is state manipulation.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 20:13 | Link to Comment serog
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Thread's dead but letting you know i completely misread your first comment.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 22:09 | Link to Comment ActionFive
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Thanks.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 12:08 | Link to Comment soopy
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I thought ZH didn't believe in technicals voodoo.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 12:26 | Link to Comment devo
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Your options right now are to buy stocks which have QE3 to infinity priced in, or gold/silver, which are more sensitive to debasement yet have not grasped (and thus priced in) the devastation of this program. I think this is a lifetime opportunity, personally, and have 20% in 'money' because it's a strange situation where the safest haven is also the best investment. I don't think this has ever happened. I have enough physical, so on any Comex manipulation i will buy the fuck out of SLV and convert profits into long-term food storage.

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 12:32 | Link to Comment Ted Baker
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WE CONTINUE WITH OUR BEARISH VIEW ON EURO (1.18) US FINANCIALS AND US HOUSING STOCKS...WE LIKE HOWEVER PHYSICAL GOLD AND CURRENCIES LIKE CAD, MXN, CHF AND OF COURSE US DOLLARS...WE ARE MASSIVELY SHORT GBP, EURO, SEK, NOK BUT LONG FACEPLANT

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 14:29 | Link to Comment d edwards
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Would the gold bars found with tungsten in them be the golden double-cross? :-D

Thu, 09/20/2012 - 14:36 | Link to Comment Colonel Klink
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So when does JPM get crucified on this cross?

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