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Goldman's Latest Trade Recommendation: Sell Apple Puts - Loss: 30% In One Day

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Wed, 08/24/2011 - 22:45 | 1597958 the mad hatter
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fudiciary duty is a dirty word on wall street

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 23:09 | 1598018 markmotive
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Well, let's hope Goldman is right about gold.

BTW, if you think gold is a bubble you haven't seen anything yet. To reach NASDAQ bubble proportions, gold has to hit $3200/oz.




Wed, 08/24/2011 - 22:46 | 1597961 mfoste1
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(*sigh*) puts head in hands.....when will they stop?

Thu, 08/25/2011 - 01:48 | 1598301 TruthInSunshine
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Krugman is drunk and/or high, AGAIN (here's his latest tirade re gold):



Keynes then goes on to explain that the actual business of gold mining — in which basically useless ore is mined and refined at great cost, then sent to sit idle in the basements of central banks — is for all practical purposes identical to his coalmine idea.

Thu, 08/25/2011 - 09:44 | 1599100 Panafrican Funk...
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I guess that's why women just hate....HATE....getting jewelry made from precious metals and stones, because clearly, they're worthless.

Krugman clearly needs a lady friend to help explain that women are intuitively aware of the value of precious metals and stones, and further, why it's extremely stupid to bet against a woman's intuition.  

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 22:49 | 1597970 disabledvet
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So given that the nasdaq is market cap weighted i guess i should go long that as well.

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 22:49 | 1597971 kito
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latest google trends have apple at the 1 and 2 spot. nope, nothing about golds big fall today....yawn


Wed, 08/24/2011 - 22:51 | 1597974 Pay Day Today
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Just do the opposite of what GS says from now on and you will make millions.

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 22:55 | 1597985 mfoste1
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I would really like to see a Goldman contrarian strategy backtested over the past 2 years.....no doubt it would have been extremely profitable.

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 23:01 | 1598008 kito
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its impossible. you will lose money on trading commissions when you are buying and selling the same thing 10 times a day.

Thu, 08/25/2011 - 02:23 | 1598337 NewThor
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I think Lloyd is getting shorter.

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 22:51 | 1597975 Hi Ho Silver
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pimpin ain't easy bitchez!

Thu, 08/25/2011 - 02:21 | 1598334 NewThor
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If you have to make out with hot max head room financial tv chicks,

I recommend the Ladies of Bloomberg TV.

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 22:52 | 1597977 Aguadulce
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Thu, 08/25/2011 - 00:23 | 1598146 wandstrasse
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follow the regarding market movements via putcast on your iPut

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 22:52 | 1597978 treemagnet
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Do as I say, not as I do......

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 22:55 | 1597984 IMA5U
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goldman says sell apple puts


because they were buying!

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 22:57 | 1597993 mfoste1
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They will continue these shenanigans because there is always new dumb money coming in to the markets that they can leach off of. That's how these cocksuckers make a living....

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 22:55 | 1597987 Placerville
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What they really mean is sell AAPL $300 Jan-12 PUTS (to us!)

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 22:57 | 1597996 Seasmoke
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God sure does have a sense of humor

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 23:02 | 1598009 Rodent Freikorps
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Anyone notice the Washington monument cracked yesterday?

How's that for symbolism?

Thu, 08/25/2011 - 01:21 | 1598261 Oh regional Indian
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Big sign eh Rodent? Like freemasonary's Ultimate Masonic symbol, tilted. Gee Dub must be spinning in his perfectly masonic grave.

I showed a picture of it on my blog yesterday. Quite a sight...



Thu, 08/25/2011 - 01:56 | 1598310 Rodent Freikorps
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Maybe it was him spinning that caused the quake.

I'd pay to see Founder Zombies rise and eat the brains of the current congress.

Thu, 08/25/2011 - 02:09 | 1598323 Oh regional Indian
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hah, funny visual.


Thu, 08/25/2011 - 01:40 | 1598283 slewie the pi-rat
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yeah. people were kickin it around after the quake

maybe even on the E coast;  my daughter told me:  that's funny!  all they ever associate w/CA is earthquakes, and now this!

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 23:06 | 1598015 Daily Bail
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So, Apple goes goes back to where it opened Tuesday morning.  Considering it trades at a forward PE of 14, with $70 billion in cash, I don't think the stock will suffer too greatly on this news, especially given that Jobs will remain as Chairman of the Board, and an employee, which is pretty strange, as in how in Cupertino is he going to be a regular employee and not take over every meeting he attends.  

But this, this is f'ing news...

The Black Swan is back.  Nassim Taleb comes out of Bernanke-induced hiatus.




Wed, 08/24/2011 - 23:16 | 1598044 Id fight Gandhi
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I wouldnt go near apple with cook in place. Not after HP shake up. Apple was dog shit before jobs. Now it will pias away it's cash on stupid shit and the macro economy all downhill.

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 23:27 | 1598059 Daily Bail
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Define dog shit...

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 23:33 | 1598069 chump666
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Taleb is back?  Right, puts and mini shorts all the way, gonna time it with his return.

Need another Doomer...maybe Faber coming out in two days and saying how he is concerned that Asian markets aren't making new highs.  Somthing like that...

Thu, 08/25/2011 - 00:50 | 1598199 Reese Bobby
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Based on the shirt and jacket I'm betting he had white socks and sandals on.

But if you think the markets are acting healthy then you deserve everything that is about to happen to you; if you have two nickels and are investing...


Thu, 08/25/2011 - 08:27 | 1598639 Hedgetard55
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That British blond did not even listen to Taleb. What a twit.

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 23:09 | 1598017 Caviar Emptor
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Hey! Investors: did you see how we did that? Telling people the pea was under the 'Sell Apple puts' shell? When really it was under the 'Sell Apple calls' shell? haha! Well if you're quick and saw how we did that, now you can get rich quick by betting against our next recommendation: ...BUY Apple Puts!... Hurry hurry, lay your money on the line....if you snooze you lose...this is your lucky chance don't blow it!!! Do  it NOW!!

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 23:11 | 1598024 theotheri
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So much jealousy on this site. I bet not one of you is remotely qualified to work there.

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 23:21 | 1598050 Rodent Freikorps
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Define "remotely"

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 23:31 | 1598064 kiss my dopamine
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You mean like switching to a government major at Dartmouth because a relation got me in and can't handle the econ course load. Yeah, I know 2 former classmates that are "qualified" to be working there.

Real world qualifications: Go to a small list of schools and know someone inside. Got me my job.

Thu, 08/25/2011 - 00:52 | 1598202 Reese Bobby
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Define "qualified."  Goldman is the new Jefferies dumb-ass.

Thu, 08/25/2011 - 02:25 | 1598340 NewThor
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I hear Jesus Christ is considered the least qualified person to work at Goldman Sachs.

Jimi Hendrix is 2nd least qualified. 

I came in 3rd.


Wed, 08/24/2011 - 23:30 | 1598028 chump666
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Goldman should look at the NASDAQ that got hammered on 'that' week of volatility - and it will be back once ranges all move lower after the QE3 already priced and sell on the fact.

JAn 2012 puts on $300?  Hold em.  Apple is going to sell hard.

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 23:35 | 1598075 Trimmed Hedge
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Can't really hold something that you've already sold....

Thu, 08/25/2011 - 00:07 | 1598118 chump666
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praise the lord you don't fill orders.

Thu, 08/25/2011 - 04:42 | 1598426 ZeroPower
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Holy shit youre dense - yes you can hold the options till maturity and pray theyre not excercised - but you take an immediate hit for selling them yesterday when today they'll open much higher.

Thu, 08/25/2011 - 08:05 | 1598596 prophet
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OOTM rarely if ever exercised  (btw  ----  selling AAPL puts ---- large and ITM for a few years awhile back was way fun)

Thu, 08/25/2011 - 20:00 | 1602149 Trimmed Hedge
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If I sell you something, say, OOTM AAPL puts, I no longer have them.

Therefore I cannot hold them, as I don't have them.

In fact, if I want them back, then I have to buy them back (at a higher, lower, or same price).

How can I buy something back if I already have them? Your "logic" makes no sense.

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 23:16 | 1598043 Caviar Emptor
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"What's good for Apple is good for America!" Well, China too. Maybe a bit more. 

But that's not the point: we need a catchy patriotic-sounding slogan that will put thieves masquerading as patriots into office! 

My trick: I call everyone with money "A Great American". Then I expect payback under the table. That's how to get elected and stay there! 

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 23:27 | 1598058 Rodent Freikorps
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"Hope clouds observation." 

Reverend Mother Gaius Helen Mohiam

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 23:26 | 1598056 augie
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something doesn't gel. Shouldn't have goldman been frontrunning this news? i mean don't these scoundrals all pray to the same heathen gods? 

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 23:49 | 1598081 alien-IQ
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OT...but well worth it: Nouriel Roubini seems to be on a drunken twitter rant. It's fuckin hilarious.

here's one of the Gems: "Patethic democracy of Twitter/Blogs: any ignoramus/wacko/hack without even Econ 101 feels entitled to spew pompous nonsense on Keynes & Econ"

And this one mentions ZH in no loving manner: "Pathetic cheap shot = to "creationist" mindset @zerohedge:If an Econ Ph.D. had done academic/statistic studies it would have been 9 out of 7"

This is just priceless. Here's the link to his twatting. http://twitter.com/#!/Nouriel


EDIT: Ok...just catching up on the twatting now and I see it's ZH that's stirring this pot of madness. Quite funny. You guys are gonna lead NR to drinking cheap booze whie stumbling down 6th Avenue ranting about the evils of socialism and how money printing will save us all.


Good stuff. (but I hate twitter)

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 23:54 | 1598101 Caviar Emptor
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He used the word bozos. As a member of a distinguished clown family, I'm offended. 

Thu, 08/25/2011 - 00:13 | 1598130 Trimmed Hedge
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Thu, 08/25/2011 - 00:55 | 1598207 Reese Bobby
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