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In Greece, It's The Police Vs The Riot Police

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As unemployment (broad and youth) goes from the sublime to the ridiculous in the troubled nation, Reuters is reporting that tensions are rising - even among the Police themselves. "They make us fight our own brothers," one riot-policeman urged with regard the Greek police protesting austerity cuts and preventing riot-police from leaving to secure other demonstrations this weekend.

The government plans to slash police pay in a new round of spending cuts worth nearly EUR12bn over the next two years, which the police, firefghter, and coast guards will be prtesting later today in Athens. How soon before TROIKA demands 8 days a week and 99% taxation - as the hair-trigger on the gun they are holding to their own head becomes more and more sensitive.

Reuters: Greek policemen, and members of police unions push riot police during scuffles outside a riot police facility in Athens, September 6, 2012

 

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Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:02 | 2767536 doomandbloom
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Alien Vs Predator

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:04 | 2767544 gojam
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More like Cowboys V Aliens

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:05 | 2767550 GetZeeGold
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Fight Club is open for business......no pushing or shoving.

 

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:18 | 2767584 pasco35
Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:52 | 2767707 GetZeeGold
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Dude....do you really think it's wise to be selling glass products in this environment?

 

Just saying....

 

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 09:34 | 2767852 otto skorzeny
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I have been hoarding glass bottles

Fri, 09/07/2012 - 14:54 | 2772690 3rdgrader
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Throw the Bankers out of office!

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 10:46 | 2768153 Hugh_Jorgan
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How about the wisdom behind cutting Police and Firefighter's pay ahead of austerity measures that will inevitably end in civil unrest? Seriously?

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 11:30 | 2768378 jumbo maverick
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Just my own theory, and I could be way off base, but I think tptb are using Greece as a study. They will implement certain things then they watch what will happen.
Then after the mini experiment is over they say well next time this happens we should do this. And if that happens then we should try something different.
I really think this is why it has taken Greece so long to fall. They are purposely prolonging this so they can study and use it as a template when it dominos to another bigger, more populous country.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 11:42 | 2768423 KK Tipton
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Everyone MUST have their salaries cut or kept down. Everywhere.

Inflation MUST be hidden...oops...controlled.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:07 | 2767557 LongSoupLine
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More like Dem Vs. Repub...no matter who wins, you're still fucked.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:10 | 2767565 GetZeeGold
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I think Newsweek said it best......we're all socialists now.....eat yer damn peas Amigo.

 

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:24 | 2767602 MillionDollarBonus_
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Idiot ... This is not about "socialism". The Greek government was well within it's means. It's only after the capitalist pig hedge funds entered into credit default swap agreements with each other that things started getting out of control. It is absolutely criminal that two counterparties should agree to exchange cashflows in this manner. This is facism, pure and simple.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:26 | 2767607 GetZeeGold
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So I'm doing it wrong?

 

Now you tell me.....where the hell were you yesterday!

 

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:39 | 2767659 GubbermintWorker
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He was busy solving world hunger and is now working on world peace.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:56 | 2767722 GetZeeGold
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Well....at least someone is doing something.

 

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 11:03 | 2768234 Hugh_Jorgan
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You mean world peas?

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 11:51 | 2768460 GeoFizz
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No, no...  that would be whirled peas.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:31 | 2767627 Ghordius
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MDB, I repent! I now realize that the pig hedge funds are only doing God's work with their loving derivatives supercharged by unlimited amounts of credit from the FED to the hyperhypotecating banks of the City of London. pls caress me, invisible hand of the market, leave your mark on me!

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:55 | 2767713 GetZeeGold
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I repent!

 

Heh heh.....yeah.....whatever.

 

You're freakin killing me over here dude.

 

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 09:22 | 2767804 GubbermintWorker
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Wow dude, way over my head! All I know is that exponential growth can be a bitch.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:35 | 2767645 Havok
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Nope. You got it wrong. Facism and Socialism are the same friggen thing except some school book that a moron wrote says one is right vs left.

The truth is, they are the same. Its BIG government vs little government. Everytime government gets involved in "taking care" of its citizens, the shit his the fan.

That FACT goes all the way back to Rome.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 09:06 | 2767754 ATM
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beauty.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:49 | 2767691 Al Gorerhythm
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MDB dishes serious. Hmmmm. 'Bout fucking time. Get mad buddy.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 09:05 | 2767749 ATM
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Go fuck yerself you little communist troll. 

Of course we should all blame the bourgeoisie for the failures of socialist government. That's been the plan hasn't it? Take over governmetn, promise to protect everyone from everything, don't expect to pay for anything then when the bill comes due blame the free market?

That's is a very enticing argument only it falls on it's face under the light of reality. You're a larval stage communist - a socialist shill waiting to morph into a hideous insect but I see you as do many others and we're waiting to squash your ass when you finally emerge from your socialist cocoon.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 11:24 | 2768273 Hugh_Jorgan
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Easy there dude, MDB gets his jollies from a rant like this. He is little more than a clumsy satirist. I have no idea what his actual politcs are, but it really doesn't matter unless you aim to gratify him. Save the wear and tear on your keyboard and just ignore MBD and his faux commentary, it is pure theater.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 10:31 | 2768084 Zero Govt
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sure it wasn't socialism MDB ?

How did Hedge Fund swaps cause the 120% plus Greek debt to GDP to be wracked up so fast and so irresponsibly?

Try property or opening a business in Greece. The Marxist State wants to micro-manage and micro-meddle in every facet of your enterprise and saddle you with more entitlements, taxes and licenses than you can count

socialism has wrecked every country it has been practiced as have you progressive retards in America

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 11:58 | 2768484 JimBowie1958
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Look at three cases; Iceland, Ireland, and Greece.

In the latter two the government bailed out their banks that lost huge sums on the derivatives market which had a very unhealthy dose of poisonous subprime loans built into them,  and the CDS's simply magnified the losses.

Iceland wisely told the banks, after its people threw a shit fit, to go stuff it and let them fail.

Ireland and Greece both tried to bail out their banks and got taken into dangerously high debt loads for thier efforts. The only difference between Irelands problems and Greece's, as I understand it, is that Irelands economy is more robust and was doing much better prior to the 2008 collapse.

So, yeah the problem is socialism, but in the form of the governments trying to allow free market principles for their banker buddies when they are successful and then socialize their losses when they are not.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:26 | 2767608 kridkrid
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Meh... we are going to wish we were all socialists when all is said and done. 

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:29 | 2767620 GetZeeGold
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Pretty sure that's the plan.

 

How did you find out?

 

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 09:06 | 2767760 ATM
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That's not the plan. The plan is to get us to wish we were socialists then turn us into peons.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 09:24 | 2767814 kridkrid
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I don't think that's the plan, exactly.  I think we have a uniquely American form of fascism that will become increasing more repressive over the coming _______ (days, weeks, months, years).  I think the word socialism is being promoted as distraction.  I think the word Marxism is being used as a distraction.  Anything that can be used as a distraction, conventions one and two as wonderful examples, are being used as distractions.  They are hiding, in plain sight, the fascist police state that is accelerating at a remarkable pace.  That's the plan, I think. 

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 11:58 | 2768482 LoneCapitalist
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Socialism is a smoothly paved road lined with beautiful trees and flowers that leads to a dirty smelly impoverished city called fascism.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 12:34 | 2768618 kridkrid
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I'm with you, to a certain extent.  All of these are really just labels, mostly meant to help people not think.  And it works.  All of the fox news worshipers running around calling Obama a Marxist or a socialist... most of them don't know what those words mean... just that it's bad.  No two systems are the same... which is why I call ours "uniquely American".  Time will tell what it looks like in the end, but I don't think it'll be pretty.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 14:30 | 2769011 putaipan
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what did they call it in babylon? egypt? nimrodism? that's where we're headed.......

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:51 | 2767701 johnnylaw187
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Maybe Plants vs Zombies, or the new game that will save ZNGA: Cowboys vs Plants

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:22 | 2767582 Peter Pan
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True event. The riot police had cordoned off a city plaza when some rioting was taking place. A little old lady who was trying to cut across the cordoned area was stopped by a policeman and told she was not allowed.

The little old lady looked up at him and asked, "why not, have you just mopped?"

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 09:00 | 2767720 Ricky Bobby
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If that was LA they would have tasered her, held her on the ground and cuffed her tight. Of course if they were feeling a little ornery they might body slam her a few times and finish by bumping fists with each other. Militarized PD coming to town near you!

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 09:33 | 2767844 Chupacabra-322
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"Order Out Of Chaos"

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 10:34 | 2768090 Ckierst1
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  1. I can't wait for SWATred v. SWATblue.  All those fancy popcontrol gizmos duking it out.  It'll be like the robot fights @ MIT.  Maybe it'll be a win-win for Joe Sixpac cuz the pigs aren't covering his back.
Thu, 09/06/2012 - 10:54 | 2768182 Ckierst1
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The fight scene at the end of Blazing Saddles!  This is the way it will evolve here.  Minarchy bitchez!

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:03 | 2767540 Sudden Debt
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they just have to do it... it's their job... can't lose their jobs right?.... we have to shoot and kill them... job yeah...

 

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:05 | 2767551 Gief Gold Plox
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Something like a "Pay per Riot" might come in handy one of these days.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:07 | 2767558 Ghordius
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come on, SD, how many have been shot during demonstrations in the last years in europe?

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:14 | 2767573 Sudden Debt
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true... we're not America yet...

 

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:25 | 2767606 GetZeeGold
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Well.....if you find yourself in a barfight.....you'll know you've arrived.

 

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:27 | 2767616 Ghordius
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since the police SWAT teams like to have all the costly toys and people like to have lots of visual fun, why not a SWAT-Olympics? Something where Hollywood could contribute, with huge balls of fire and perhaps a few cops in real danger?

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:30 | 2767625 GetZeeGold
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Dude....clearly you've never been to Kansas.......even the SWAT boys won't go there.

 

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:41 | 2767654 Ghordius
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I've been in a few warzones, but I hear you and I mind all danger warnings. What is the most common cause of death in Kansas? I am really ignorant in this... Kansas, Kansas, wait! That's where Dorothy from the Wizard of Oz comes from?

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 09:11 | 2767727 GetZeeGold
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What is the most common cause of death in Kansas?

 

Euroboys trying to act tough.....at a biker bar in Wichita.....the poor bastards didn't stand chance.

 

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 11:38 | 2768401 KK Tipton
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"What is the most common cause of death in Kansas?"

Boredom.

 

That said, I do like driving across Kansas. It's very Zen.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 11:53 | 2768467 zapdude
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Now I've seen everyting -- Wichita referenced on ZeroHedge. 

I lived there for five years and felt safer there than in KC (lived there 11 years). 

Wichita has its plusses (12 min work commute, great place for families, fantastic YMCA's for families, stable economy) and minuses (over 3 hours to go anywhere else interesting, constant wind blowing off the high prairie, ice hail tornadoes).

However, I never went into a biker bar due to common sense.

Fri, 09/07/2012 - 07:22 | 2770906 Ghordius
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ah, suicide. happens

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 10:26 | 2768070 StychoKiller
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Houses might drop on top of you.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 09:10 | 2767773 ATM
Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:36 | 2767652 Sudden Debt
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when I was in my 20's we didn't call it a weekend if there wasn't a good barfight in it. But these days, you don't see or hear about that anymore.

kids... boring as hell...

WE KNEW HOW TO PARTY THOUGH THE WEEKEND!

Those where the good days :)

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:40 | 2767665 Ghordius
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I suppose where you had barfights nobody had any knives in play and the etiquette frowned upon the use of broken bottles? And nobody got hit from behind? ;-) you know, good fights

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 09:07 | 2767740 Sudden Debt
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actually most of them where pretty messy as I remember. when you saw them using bottles, it was time to go :)

In my time, doorkeepers had riot guns strapped on their backs and body armor to break up the fights and defend themselves.

and when it appeared on the news the next day, we put a lot of effort into explaining to our parents that we didn't go to places like that :)

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:42 | 2767675 tonyw
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SD, the older you get the better you were.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 09:09 | 2767768 Sudden Debt
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I'm not THAT old :) I'm 35 :)

I'm still allowed from the misses to go out with my friends 2 times a month...

actually...

I was easier to get permission when I was a kid to go out... but that's another topic :) 

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 12:10 | 2768535 Bananamerican
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another welding guy i know got sucker punched with brass knuckles in a "bar fight" once...he has a 7" scar in his head and frequent migraines....good times.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 09:19 | 2767792 Jani
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You're not hanging in the right bars : - )

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:46 | 2767686 disabledvet
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Spot on. Take a look at Super valu to see how America's "recovery" progresses. Still...might have to redefine "party" in Solonika in order to keep their world ranking at número cinco.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 12:03 | 2768506 JimBowie1958
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they just have to do it... it's their job... can't lose their jobs right?.... we have to shoot and kill them... job yeah...

No.

We have to win them over to our side. They are human beings too, and they empathize with the average joe. That is why Wall Street financed the 'Occupy Wall Street' movement and laced it with dangerous felons and anarchists who alienated the police across the country. But those were hippies and their smashing is not an unpleasant thought for most.

But the cops will come around more to our side if we remain peacable and do not engage in open violence. Then they can be turned to inform on the system from the inside and let the hard heads exploit that information.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 12:12 | 2768541 Bananamerican
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"They are human beings too, and they empathize with the average joe."

a ZH re-quote:

"There are 3 kinds of People in a cop's world: other cops, his family, and criminals"

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:06 | 2767547 Ghordius
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now is this not civilized? when in uniform you stop demonstrators from rioting and when out of uniform you go demonstrate

now do the same with the fabled SWAT teams and see what happens

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:05 | 2767548 Its_the_economy...
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Brother against Brother wil not stand long.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:15 | 2767576 Gully Foyle
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Its_the_economy...

How are those Koreas doing?

Brothers on each side.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:36 | 2767650 Its_the_economy...
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The game changes when one side is called upon to damage unarmed men women and children.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:20 | 2767593 Peter Pan
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All rioting would stopi in Greece if the people were allowed to enter parliament and allowed to beat the shit out of politicians who lied, misled and ransacked the people and the nation.

Greeks could then settle down and get on with the job.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 09:13 | 2767780 ATM
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Not according to MDB. He wants to beat up everyone else.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:49 | 2767692 tinsmith
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Seemed to work o.k. at Gettysburg, Bull Run........... oh, I see what you meant. Yeah. Except when TPTB wants a fight, theys gets a fight. And they don't give a damn who's fighting who as longas it suits their purposes. What they DO care about is who will control rioters and protestors when ALL the police are on the other side of the line. Go long 'peacekeeping forces' in Greece. Eventually the E.U. nations will need to get together and 'protect the Greek people' (from themselves, of course.)

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:05 | 2767549 LongSoupLine
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No emotion, just doing the job they are trained and programmed to do....wait...

 

Algo police?

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:07 | 2767554 Zola
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I am always amazed by the utter lack of moral compass, self respect, and independent spirit of the pathetic sheeps who utter these despicable words :" I'm just doing my job..." . This cowardice is the source of many ills for humanity. We dont need sheep/ant humans but proud individuals capable of using their minds to make their own decisions...

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:14 | 2767571 Gully Foyle
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Zola

Can your statements be more full of shit?

Of course they made decisions and merely use the "I'm just doing my job" as a public excuse.

Each of them CHOSE to do what they did.

Just because you don't agree with their decisions to keep food on the table and shelter for the kids, doesn't mean they are lacking a moral compass.

Please post a photo of your self immolation to illustrate what a lofty minded idealist you are by refusing to take it anymore and publicly bursting into flame.

You can be the first Zero Hedge martyr, someone who's actions speak for themselves.

Until then shut the fuck up.


Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:30 | 2767624 kridkrid
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Oddly, I can agree with you both.  Clean up the attack and there could actually be conversation in there somewhere.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:33 | 2767637 WeAreJellyfish
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GF-
Choice - I have made the 'choice' to refuse to bear the burden of Cost when deciding on the Price and Value of your dumb nagging rant.

Bout sums up you no?

It is wonderful to see how the slaves will martyr themselves into the slavery of being a teet sucking leech of HFC and doing anything one can to avoid producing worth as inflation is natural as is the idea that over time you are worth-less. Right?

Asswhipes like makes it easy to target who is a threat to my labor too thanks.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 09:58 | 2767969 Ar-Pharazôn
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police guys receive a nice brainwashing when they do the academy, and this is happening in the whole world.

 

they do not act, they do not think, they train like soldiers to do their job like instintictively

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 19:00 | 2769774 radsz
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Too many people do evil and justify it by saying I am just doing my job.

The world is speeding down the toilet because too many people are just doing their job and too few are standing for the principles even it meant being hungry for a while until finding better job.

I hope you are not working for TSA because you do sound like working for them.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:14 | 2767575 dingoj
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I'm "just doing my job" in order to short all these motherfuckers lies. And I'm getting ruined by it. Does that make me better than the rest? Please say yes or I've lost all faith in life.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:23 | 2767601 WeAreJellyfish
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Amazed at folks who say "I am just doing my job"?

I am offended, threatened and ready to defend myself from the naggerslaves who act on behalf of avoiding what they believe to be pain.

Suffering is exactly what it takes to grow. We live in a land of children who wish to never grow up. Disney has done a better job than any could realize.

You dumb nagging slave to $.

NO USURY ON CURRENCY CREATION
IAMSLATTERY
never forget

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:06 | 2767555 Sparky_ZA
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Sad to see but a reminder of what is to come elsewhere

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:07 | 2767556 dwayne elizando
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"They make us fight our own brothers,"

Heaven forbid you find out how it feels!

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:08 | 2767561 Munkey
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I just can't keep up with the speed of deterioration. Gold soaring, dollar getting smacked, housing in Australia getting spanked and now this.

This global crisis is like having a baby, you know it's coming but when it's actually born you say in disbelief: shit, that's a baby!

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:19 | 2767590 redd_green
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Problems increase exponentially when governments borrow money to pay interest on borrowed money.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 09:06 | 2767762 kridkrid
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Don't lose sight that the paying interest on borrowed money and borrowing more money to pay interest on borrowed money is not just a gov't phenomenon.  In fact, the gov't phenomenon has become a little bit of a red herring.  Virtually all money is loaned into existence.  They "system" doesn't care who takes the loan, only that the loan is made.  Private debt, corporate debt and a whole myriad of debt instruments traded between financial institutions... it's all part of the same debt bubble.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:09 | 2767564 dingoj
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You'll fight your brother, steal your father and pimp your mother in order to pay your debt incurred by banker Draghi.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:11 | 2767567 redd_green
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If the Greeks constantly take bailout money, then they are only digging themselves deeper into the hole.     They are asking to be indentured servants to the lenders.     Why would anyone do that?   A message to Greece:  dump the Euro, tell Germany where to go, and fix your own internal monetary system.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:18 | 2767586 Ghordius
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it's not the currency, it's the debt. and most of it is external, meaning that by switching to a softer currency you would make their debt harder. three quarters of the Greeks want to keep the EUR. it's defaulting that is a bitch. did you ever default?

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:26 | 2767609 redd_green
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Well, no, it is most certainly the currency.   Since they have absolutely no control over their own monetary system, they can't inflate.   The only option is this  'austerity' bulls**t.  Halving police and municipal workers pay, etc.

You can not force two countries into the same monetary system, one with a huge trade surplus (Germany) and one with a huge trade deficit (Greece) and not expect terrible things to happen to the country with the large trade deficit.

And, of course, Greece is abysmal at enforcing  it's tax collection laws, which doesn't help.  

The moral of the story:   the trade deficitt countries will eventually be controlled by the trade surplus countries.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 09:47 | 2767920 Revert_Back_to_...
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I had to re-write your sentence...

":...one with a huge trade surplus (China) and one with a huge trade deficit (USA) and not expect terrible things to happen to the country with the large trade deficit."

Never mind, we were warned about this decades ago..by a rare combo..someone who was both a banker and a Senator.

http://www.afn.org/~govern/mcfadden.html#14

 

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 09:01 | 2767734 Yperkeimenos
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Actually it would not,because over 90% of Greek debt was under Greek Law,which means that it could easily be converted and paid for in Drachmas at a rate determined by the Greek goverment. The real crime commited by the Greek politicians is that all new debt issued is under English law which makes it non convertable.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:13 | 2767569 the not so migh...
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Cop on Cop violence , cooooooooool

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 09:26 | 2767819 ZeroAvatar
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'Cop'o e Cop'o'.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:14 | 2767572 LawsofPhysics
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All the while, the kleptocrats and banksters vacation on their beaches.  Bloody sheep.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:14 | 2767574 Its_the_economy...
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The conundrum is of course that the EU banded together under one currency to protect itself from Wall Street currency and debt traders intentionally blowing up their individual currencies. Outcome: The sovereigns and bankers in cahoots have blown up their individual countries.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 09:11 | 2767775 redd_green
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Well, no, not at all.  The european countries banded together to form an economic union that was larger than the much loathed USA.    To get that carrot, they had to accept a common currency, the trojan horse.  It looked great from teh outside, but none of the great European thinkers could figure out that eventually the big trade surplus countries (the few) would own everything.   But, yeah, the crooked bankers are at the root of the problem.    Its just not he bankers you think.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:15 | 2767578 Munkey
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Cop on cop...my mind is wandering...

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:17 | 2767583 the not so migh...
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snakes eating snakes

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:16 | 2767581 SilverIsKing
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Do they say the phrase, "it's all Greek to me" in Greece?

When do the Greek police and the other Greek police look at each other and say, "you look familiar?"

Then they can turn and go after the real enemy.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:21 | 2767596 Ponzi_Scheme
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Brother killing brother for the profit of another .... A gift from the Jews that run the Fed and the media. Enjoy the bread and circus.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:27 | 2767615 Drachma
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Print me. Print me damn it!

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:28 | 2767617 ThirdWorldDude
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Song of the day:

Spiritualized - Cop Shoot Cop

http://youtu.be/ddptzaMXKgc

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:31 | 2767626 Cman5000
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Next stop the Omega Man let's get this party started...

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:35 | 2767640 Dubaibanker
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It has been happening in Israel and Palestine, where they used to live together, once upon a time, also in India and Pakistan where they were ONE freakin country until a few decades ago.....East and West Germany showed us it possible to unite in a western democracy. The tide is now turning and Greece, the neighbor of Germany will show us how to start the disintegration. Talk about Quebec separation has started again with bullets flying just yesterday, third time, I say, is a charm! Let's not get into Iraq or Afghanistan or Syria or for that matter Somalia. We all know how it eventually ends. Something beginning with a 'T' and ending with 'S'. It is a 5 letter word, actually.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:34 | 2767642 supafuckinmingster
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Blue on blue.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 10:16 | 2768024 Zero Govt
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anarchy

you give a small group of tossers all the power and sit back and watch the State then wreck the economy and society

100% predictible

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 12:03 | 2768507 IrritableBowels
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Not quite anarchy; chaos, yes, but not anarchy.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:41 | 2767668 HOBO POTHEAD
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I predicted this sort of cop on cop violence will (in due course) happen right here in America in my book

Civil War Two: The coming Breakup of America.

You can buy it here

http://www.amfirstbooks.com/

I was a merc in (the former) Yugoslavia and cop on cop violence is a big milestone on the road to pedal to the metal all out civil war.

 

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 09:14 | 2767783 redd_green
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The USA won't breank up.  That idea was from sone crazy Russian guy.   The former USSR was hobled together by sending the Russian army into some country, pointing a gun at people and telling them "You're in the USSR now.  Comrade".     The USA wasn't formed that wasy, so there's nothing to break apart.

Picture the USA as one really big Greece.  It won't break up, but it will collapse.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 09:24 | 2767806 dwdollar
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It almost did once before... It held together only by force. In this case, collapse probably comes first though.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:53 | 2767710 RiskAverseAlertBlog
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Fire up the factories in China manufacturing jackboots. Hillary Clinton only has so many to donate to the cause.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 08:55 | 2767717 Calmyourself
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Wake me whn the cops are fighting over the last bag of rice until then; circus..

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 09:03 | 2767738 kita27
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i just wanted to say to you all that  im,   just saying. Well no i am actually writing, but that doesnt matter does it? it sounds cool, and when people read it they will go, 'oh, this guy is cool.  Just saying...

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 09:06 | 2767759 Oldballplayer
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To the dope in the picture:  Never wear glasses to a riot.  They will get smashed right into those eyes.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 09:08 | 2767765 MarcusLCrassus
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Good.  Divide and conquer.  Pretty soon even the jackbooted enforcers of TPTB in Greece will realize how badly their country has been looted and pillaged by criminal bankers and then its Grexit time. 

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 09:09 | 2767771 dolph9
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How long before the jackboots in America figure out the score?

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 09:20 | 2767786 dwdollar
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Soon enough. Our jackboot thugs do it primarily for the money.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 09:38 | 2767878 phat ho
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When Larry the cable guy says its time

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 09:14 | 2767782 Bicycle Repairman
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So the police are starting to figure out that they are part of the 99%.  I wonder when the riot police figure it out?  Then the army?  Then NATO troops?  Then who?

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 09:32 | 2767837 LawsofPhysics
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BR,

Been saying this for years.  At what point does a high ranking military officier in the U.S. simply take some loyal troops into the CONgress and say "Listen, you stupid fucking children, time to have an adult conversation.  We know you are puppets and if you insist on being loyal to your banks and financial houses, please line up against that wall." 

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 11:45 | 2768435 Marla And Me
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This is always how it goes down, and this charade has played itself out for at least 5000 years.  Once Congress overplays its hand, a strongman will appear who will promise to save the day.  At that point, the bankers will flee to find a new host to suck dry,  and the people will get the leader they deserve.  This country will go through some major turmoil, we will likely outlaw interest again.  After a few generations and a bit of amnesia, the bankers will return to start the cycle all over again.  It is useless to get mad about a chain of events that is impossible to stop given the initial setup.  As long as we seek to get something for nothing (charging each other interest), then we have to live with the consequences.  Adding interest into a finite system means that there will never be enough $ to cover principal PLUS interest.  This is what Mako (landotfree) is talking about.  Once credit expansion stops, there is not enough "money" to cover the outstanding "liabilities." 

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 09:36 | 2767859 phat ho
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Let's hope there isn't any Ouzo spilled during the milieu

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 09:48 | 2767922 YHC-FTSE
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There's a potential black swan, if one could ever foresee such things (You can't, but it is worth the conjecture).

On one hand, the Greek "problem" amounts to a hill of beans - a population of only 11 million people, nearly on a par with the population of London on a week day. How could such a place cause so many problems, how could they get themselves into so much debt? And even if the whole firmament came crashing down on them, what possible damage could such a small and economically unimportant country, even with their 132-165% Debt/GDP ratio, do to the rest of the world? I mean, a GDP of €215 Billion is chump change! Bernanke can crap twice that amount with some persuasive bit of fingering from the POMO banks. 

On the other hand, the speed of social disintegration is a thing of incredulity. Blink, and your whole world can turn upside down with kids macheting their parents, and seemingly normal people bashing each other's brains out for a looted ipod. Membership of the EU means nothing when law and order itself is the instigator of violent crimes against its citizens. I thought the disintegration of Yugoslavia, a holiday destination of so many europeans, was impossible until it happened. I thought the British spirit of law-abiding calm and patience in the face of adversity would prevail until the riots happened last year in London. The speed with which the headless chickens in the right wing papers were calling for the deployment of the army on the streets of London was as astonishing as the viciousness of the rioters themselves. The sheer stupid fucking madness of ape-man never ceases to amaze me. 

 

So, the Greek social disintegration coupled with the domino-effect on the rest of the EU, whilst they may not crush ALL the insolvent banks and insurance industries on both sides of the Atlantic thanks to a massive bout of printing that is bound to happen to bail them out again, they will crush many smaller institutions. The subsequent fallout coupled with currencies teetering on the brink of hyperinflation does not bode well for the ordinary folks. Slow or fast (Can kicked or not), you can bet your arse that we are staring at the potential disaster of pricing more than half the planet out of staple foods. It is happening right now. You would have to be extremely dense to place your trust in pretty paper masquerading as money, and the leeches in government who brought us to this point.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 10:17 | 2768004 Zero Govt
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"In Greece, It's The Police Vs The Riot Police"

 

Fantastic ...double helpings of popcorn all-round

 

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 10:10 | 2768005 Juan Wild
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"They make us fight our own brothers"

The world needs to change "they" to "him".

"He makes us fight our own brothers"

Rothschild is "HE"

He is satan on this planet and until we realize this we will be powerless.

okay then, all together now:

ROTHSCHILD makes us fight our own brothers!

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 10:21 | 2768040 Zero Govt
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Rothchild corrupts, Rothchild sucks, rince and repeat

most of the rest is our problem, our lathergy

Stop Paying Your Taxes

...surest fastest way to bring the suckers down

Fri, 09/07/2012 - 04:48 | 2770821 Fort
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Actually the fastest way to destroy the entire system is withdrawing all your cash from the bank. When 'we' collectively pull our cash out of our accounts, we use a non-violent legal method to take the house of cards down. Faster than a gentle breeze ever could!

Not paying taxes will only get you in jail faster than when you violently rob an old lady 12 pm on a central village square.

Using force and violence to counter state violence will only result in a lot of people injured and hurt, possibly killed. That should not be the answer. Destroy the banks by pulling your cash is the best way. It has other advantages.

You can pay everybody in cash. Everybody who asks for cash has to come to your door to collect. That includes banks and government. Let them come to collect.

You minimize government control. They cannot trace cash payments. They don’t know how much cash you still have. You can exchange surplus money for valuable assets, instead of leaving it in the bank, where it loses value as a result of inflation and no interest.

Disadvantages:

Destroying the system drops us in the great unknown. The government may have no legal reason to attack us for doing something we still have a right to do. When the system crashes, it will have an impact on the extremely integrated world market, upon which everybody relies to eat and drink daily. This could potentially lead to hunger and suffering. This might trigger violence and chaos. This may also lead to people dying. It all depends on how fast an alternative system can be kick started and how fast markets are restored. It would require people to share and help each other as much as possible until the storm has past. It is unlikely that people will do this.

It is unlikely people are ready to pull this stunt, people are generally very scarred of the big unknown. It would however be the ultimate retaliation of us and it would enable us to destroy a system that is pushing the world more and more to a world of masters and slaves.

Churchill: “If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.”

The time to choose will soon be upon us. Will people continue to sit back and allow TPTB to turn us all in system dependent slaves? Or will we heed Winston’s warning. If the time comes to fight back I hope people can collectively agree to take this action and not start useless fights, riots and violence that will only result in many people killed.

There is another thing, the time to fight will come, and there is very little doubt in my mind that it can be avoided. The question is, will we allow TPTB to determine when, where and how, which will only benefit them as so many other wars have done in the past. Or will we the people determine the when where and how. Can we start it, so TPTB have no warning at all? All of a sudden they just see the system crumble, but wait something is wrong. They are not ready, and this should not yet happen.

 

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 10:37 | 2768108 lolmao500
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Cops need to fight each other more, then they will learn what it's like to be ``on the other side``.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 11:03 | 2768243 greggh99
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"The government plans to slash police pay..."

Now this surprises me. Every ruling class needs a loyal goon squad. You can screw everyone else over. But it's really dumb to piss off your goons.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 11:51 | 2768459 Nobody For President
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When the cops get they are on the same side, they bring in the soldiers.

When the soldiers realize they are with the cops, they will bring in UN 'Peacekeepers' - maybe the Dutch contingent. THEN they cut Greece loose.

Fri, 09/07/2012 - 00:48 | 2770629 MeelionDollerBogus
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And this is why empires & nations collapse. Once the fraud is so rampant the chief enforcers of theft - police - can't even be paid - they join the ranks of refuseniks and freedom-seekers

Fri, 09/07/2012 - 07:12 | 2770893 miltiadis
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Live your myth in Greece

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