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Greece Itself Now Openly Ridicules Europe's Lies Of Greek "Stability"

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Compare these two statements: first from Reuters- "Greece's debt has run out of control and government policies are failing to restore finances, an independent parliamentary committee of experts wrote in a report released on Wednesday." And second, from Bloomberg: "Greece’s debt is on a “durable declining path” and new projections will show that the second rescue program reduces net  liabilities, European Union Economic and Monetary Commissioner Olli Rehn said." Sorry Europe: your credibility, whatever was left of it, just ran out. When the indirect object of your bail out effort (the direct one being naturally your central bank and your various local banking oligarchy of course) says in your face that you are full of excrement, it is time to put a fork in it.

More on the truth:

"The steep debt rise, high primary deficit ... have exacerbated to the maximum the dynamics of debt, which is out of control," the committee of experts appointed by the Finance Ministry said in a monthly economic bulletin.

 

"It is clear that the country's problem is not just the size of the public debt but the inability to consolidate the current fiscal management. Despite gigantic effort for fiscal adjustment, no primary surplus has been achieved, on the contrary the primary deficit widens," it said

And lies:

Internal EU assessments indicate that “given the private sector involvement, the government debt ratio net of collateral will fall compared to the previous projection,” Rehn said in response to a European Parliament inquiry.

 

“Including the loan to accumulate collateral in the context of the private sector involvement, the gross debt ratio actually increases compared to the previous assessment,” Rehn said. “However, the debt ratio is expected, in any case, to decline from 2013 on.”

 

The new projections will be included in the next quarterly report on Greece, Rehn said according to a text posted on the parliament’s website.

Thus the official beginning of the end of the Euro and Eurozone starts. Perhaps Europe can now refocus its efforts on something more practical: like restoring Esperanto as the global language of bureaucratic efficiency, peace, unity and prosperity and what not.

 

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Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:23 | 1619995 MarketTruth
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But...but...but.... Greece has gold. Oh, what was that you say... Greece CLAIM to have gold.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:52 | 1620177 Long-John-Silver
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It's held in JP Morgan and HSBC bullion vaults. They claim it's all there, every ounce of it.

Can I interest you in a Bridge? It's located in Brooklyn, NY. 

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 16:30 | 1620401 MS7
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Not every ounce. Germany has more than an ounce of WWII era gold from Greece.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 16:28 | 1620394 MS7
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I don't understand your point. The government better not give away the gold of Greece, which belongs to the people, and which will be necessary for a gold backed drachma when (there is no "if") Greece defaults. The extremely unpopular government in Greece is the one that favors the bailouts as a way to pay off its friends in the Troika before the inevitable default. But they wouldn't go so far as to give away the gold (I don't think).

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 17:23 | 1620614 Drachma
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People? TPTB don't recognize any people in Greece, just cats, dogs, goats and mostly sheep; all chattel to be sure.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:23 | 1620003 FunkyMonkeyBoy
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Europe must fall before the U.S. It is the agenda.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:24 | 1620004 Scalaris
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Feta-backed Bonds.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:59 | 1620234 Black Forest
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Olive oil backed bonds.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:24 | 1620008 RobotTrader
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National Bank of Greece's 35% moonshot from the other day wiped out in one fell swoop.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:24 | 1620011 spiral_eyes
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Does anyone remember what happened the last time Germany were forced into pledging vast amounts of cash (or “reparations”) to other European nations? No?

It wasn’t pretty.

http://azizonomics.com/2011/08/28/the-death-of-the-euro-in-2011/ 

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:26 | 1620021 Caviar Emptor
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Debt? What's debt among old friends? We'll pay you back in dining and entertainment and unforgettable memories. You should loosen up. 

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:28 | 1620033 disabledvet
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Jamie Dimon? Is there a "Jamie Dimon here?" Yes...Continent of Europe...line one. No need for the French interpreter this time.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:28 | 1620035 defn8Dog
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so... what's the likelihood that Greece actually did hire a law firm to evaluate debt restructuring and exit from the Eurozone?

 

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:47 | 1620140 Construct
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Have you actually seen the Greek bond yields? Greece has already defaulted.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:53 | 1620185 disabledvet
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A what? Hahahahaha

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:56 | 1620214 Construct
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what do you call 20% on 10yr vet?

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 16:01 | 1620241 Black Forest
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so... what's the likelihood that Greece actually did hire a law firm to evaluate debt restructuring and exit from the Eurozone?

>>0 per cent I guess.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:29 | 1620042 Chuck Bone
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Wait... so when you decrease government spending (the G in the GDP equation) then people's net income falls and thus tax revenues decline as well? It's almost as if it's impossible for Greece to pay back their debts... Oh wait, they are already paying 40+%, which is basically a recovery rate anyway. Whatever, let's just throw new debt at this problem, that'll fix it!

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 16:13 | 1620313 Alea Iactaest
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I always wondered what the "G" stood for. Thanks for clearing that up.

 

;-)

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 17:15 | 1620584 Apeman
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Here in waffleland we don't have a G. Does this mean we're the first to get DP'ed? O_o

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:30 | 1620044 centerline
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Central bank game change.  Time to blame the politicians and people.  EU version of the same script being played out here.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:53 | 1620183 Oh regional Indian
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yup yup centerline. Same thing happening here in India. Suddenly, a politician cannot find a corner to hide in. 

V

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:30 | 1620047 Frozen IcQb
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Another Versaille attempt will split the Euro in two along the North/South axis.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:41 | 1620110 Instant Wealth
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1. Core Europe with Germany, Austria and Hungary ?

2. trigger event ?

3. WWI reloaded ?

4. Versailles treaty 2.0 ?

5. Sarkozy = le grand empereur ?

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:54 | 1620190 Oh regional Indian
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Line item 5 made me gag, till I re-wrote it in my head. Then it made me laugh...

 

5. Sarkozy = le petit empereur?

;-)

V

http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2011/08/30/humor-me/

Thu, 09/01/2011 - 04:13 | 1621976 ambrosiac
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De cette bouteille sortit/

Napoleon le petit

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:55 | 1620200 disabledvet
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Hahahaha. This one's even funnier than the lawyer comment above.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:31 | 1620050 1835jackson
Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:31 | 1620054 mynhair
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Does this mean: 'buy the dip'?

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:33 | 1620059 Imminent Collapse
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Its all Greek to me

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:48 | 1620161 Cash_is_Trash
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To them as well, and they don't understand it.

Survival of the unfittest, bitchez

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:37 | 1620079 Dick Darlington
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Thus the official beginning of the end of the Euro and Eurozone starts.

It's about the fooking time. Disintegration will replace the word of the year, austerity, very soon.

P.S. Did anyone notice the plunge in Spain's budjet revenues? Compared to last yr, the ytd cumulative revenue was 10 bn lower...

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:37 | 1620080 Sudden Debt
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Maybe a war with Greece will solve the problem?

UN troops to confiscate anything of value?

Enslavement of the Greek population to pay of their debt? If so, I take one young femal specimen for the cooking and cleaning and I'll pay 5K for it.

I don't know... that's it options concerned.....

 

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:50 | 1620170 Cash_is_Trash
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Serfdom: Cheap or free spoils of war

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:54 | 1620195 Long-John-Silver
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That could get slippery

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:59 | 1620233 disabledvet
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No need for war. We're already in there. Just start building a humongous Naval Base in Salonika--using Egyptian workers. That should send the appropriate message.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 16:01 | 1620246 vocational tainee
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sometimes you are an arsehole

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 16:06 | 1620276 myne
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Krugman would certainly advocate the USA to supply and reinforce all sides of this war.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:38 | 1620088 irishlink
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Barroso's statements today were delivered so calmly that you knew he was endeavoring to conceal how desperate the situation really is. They are running to stand still ...... time

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:51 | 1620173 Mountainview
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Barroso is no economist and Greece(and especially the Greek population) should be freed from this endless muddeling of Brussel Eurocrats. Let the Greek out of the EURO, write off some of your credits to this country and start with a blank sheet and the Greek New Drachma!

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:38 | 1620089 The Shootist
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Oh, Esperanto...

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:39 | 1620096 NotApplicable
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WTF is a "durable declining path?" Sounds like a metal slide to Hades.

Sorry Europe: your credibility, whatever was left of it, just ran out. When the indirect object of your bail out effort (the direct one being naturally your central bank and your various local banking oligarchy of course) says in your face that you are full of excrement, it is time to put a fork in it.

No forking shit!

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:39 | 1620097 espirit
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Maybe the Greeks and EU can blame the Fed for the Pump n' Dump.

Or is QE3 necessary to once again stabilize the EuroZombie?

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:43 | 1620122 Construct
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EFSF to the moon? no?

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:49 | 1620164 WonderDawg
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What would the discussion thread be if someone didn't mention QE3?

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:54 | 1620191 Construct
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Don't discriminate EFSF like that dogg.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:57 | 1620215 espirit
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It is the only thing that will keep the ponzi going. The Greeks are at the bottom of the food chain.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 16:00 | 1620240 slaughterer
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Germany is only backing EFSF to €211billion.  So, no moon. 

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 16:04 | 1620263 Construct
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And what happens when france, italy, spain, x, ....,? comes asking for a handout. They are not to far off from Greece you know. Europe is so broke it makes America look like a saint.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:40 | 1620100 Cdad
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The BlowHorn [CNBC] answers ZH's continuing coverage of the European disaster with...Abbie J. Cohen and her soothing explanation of how....of course...the market is "historically cheap."

Brilliant!  Would the FCC please pull the broadcasting license at the BlowHorn?  Thank you.

 

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:48 | 1620150 DonnieD
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Whenever I see him on TV I have a good laugh. Reminds me of Clark Griswald.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 16:49 | 1620483 JohnG
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Reminds me of Pat from SNL.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:53 | 1620188 sheeple2012
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How does that old bag still get on the tube? She's the biggest sell-side whore (and I use that term loosely) ever. Love to see a chart of her year-end S&P forecasts vs. actual over the past ten years...

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 16:04 | 1620265 slaughterer
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You should see Abbie work the "bathroom brigade" retiree circuit in Florida.     No Eisenhower-generation septarian will ever die of a heart attack because of an unexpected capital-destroying correction with Abbie's warm smiling promises of ES 1450 by year end. 

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:41 | 1620108 Construct
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But but but if EU collapses then what will José Manuel Barroso be king of? It is no fun to be king of a small broke piece of shit banana republic like Portugal.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:47 | 1620139 MoneyWise
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"But but but if EU collapses"

But what, what, what, if Martians will take over Earth tomorrow?
Do you need Gold then? :)))

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:48 | 1620154 Construct
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Ofcourse BUT ONLY cos it is TRADITION my dear little friend.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:44 | 1620127 SeverinSlade
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Bullish for equities.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:48 | 1620149 moldygoat
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Buy, Buy, Buy......Bye

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:48 | 1620151 Pig Brotha
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Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:48 | 1620153 circusoflife
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the home of DEMO(N)cracy!

 

The old - Greece, and the new - USA

 

Democracy - where the majority rules...the majority of Americans are OBESE or OVERWEIGHT (For the record - not me)...so if the "majority is right" -- does that mean I need to fatten up?

 

Massive TAX (TAKe) evasion in Greece - so the message of old democracy has been mastered by the newer democracies (Just today - 25 CEOs who have a higher salary than the taxes their Fortune 500 corp pays). And the rest of the world is learning the fattening ways of the new democracy.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44338047/ns/business-us_business/#.Tl6PfV1D2Sp

Are u lovin' it? If so - go to McDonalds...

 

End of DEMONcracy - coming right up!

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:52 | 1620180 NetDamage
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Yeah Olli Rehn really knows his own twisted economic math. Recently he stated to the European Parliament that there is no risk for the ECB buying Italian and Spanish government bonds since this is done on the secondary market.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:58 | 1620230 JohnG
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One language to rule them all: http://en.lernu.net/

 

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:59 | 1620232 Manbarepig
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Its ok, just throw more money at the problem, that always works.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 16:01 | 1620249 disabledvet
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I thought this problem had been solved...and shit. WTF?

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 16:06 | 1620277 gwar5
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This is why I don't think Germany will have the stomach to take over the EFSF and dictate to these other countries.  The ex-Nazis are going to have to enforce whatever draconian conditions they extract because the rest of the Europeans are just going to be laughing at them without a gun to their heads.

 

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 16:44 | 1620464 walküre
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Fuck you!

What do you know?

Is it Germany's fault that BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Siemens, BASF, Bayer and so on were pioneered in Germany as opposed to Greece or anywhere else?

Germany didn't pressure Greece or anyone else to accepting the Euro. Whoever concocted this had their own agenda as should be clear now.

The banking cabal is playing both sides, they create winners and loosers and the pitch the loosers against the winners vv.

Germany is a victim - again.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 16:53 | 1620498 Lord Welligton
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Whoever concocted this had their own agenda as should be clear now.

It was the French who really wanted the Euro.

They were afraid of a unified Germany without it.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 17:07 | 1620544 walküre
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Sarkozy is clearly Rothschild's lap dog. His agenda is to destroy the EU and Europe from within and turn it over to the IMF, all of it. The Windsors are not part of the Euro for that very reason.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 17:00 | 1620515 NotApplicable
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Given your response, I'd say the cabal has played its hand well.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 17:08 | 1620551 walküre
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You are right. Easy though when the deck is stacked against everyone else at all times. The cabal prints and controls the deck so to speak.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 16:11 | 1620303 RSloane
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I feel very badly for the Greek people.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 16:18 | 1620341 walküre
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The average German today has no clue how they're being ripped off - again.

All that historic revisionism, aka public education has left this country completely defenseless and willing to accept anything.

Rule 1, Germany is bad

Rule 2, Germans are bad

Rule 3, Germans are guilty and must pay

There is not one other country on the planet that has been milked, raped and robbed by the banking elite over and over and over again like Germany. When the banking cabal couldn't steal from Germany anymore, they invented lies and inticed Germans to fight wars they couldn't win only to start the game again.

Will this time be different? I don't know. What I know is that a majority of Germans is asleep and will only wake up, when THEY want them to wake up and rise up - again. Stupid, stupid, stupid. Must be some sort of playbook where the script is made of a majority hard working caucasians and a minority of stealing vermin belonging to a certain religious cult. Enough said.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 16:36 | 1620427 Black Forest
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You are right, regrettably.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 16:41 | 1620449 IMA5U
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Germans are too busy clubbing into the wee hours wildly dancing while under the infulence of funny pills and listening to DJs like Ben Klock

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 16:53 | 1620495 walküre
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Only harsh corrective measures can put an end to it. Of course any political candidate even hinting at some form of moderation, humilty and self preservation is going to get openly slaughtered by the various fractions of the "rainbow coalition".. all sponsored richly by the banking cabal and their elite to make sure people are kept stupid and stupified.

Give them more stupid talent shows and "Deutschland sucht den XYZ WTF who gives a shit anyway" nonsense and they shall be quiet. Give them more rainbow parades and techno spectacles spanning for days across entire cities where NOTHING useful gets accomplished, and much energy and real talent just goes to waste.

When is it enough? When they're broke and spent their last cents on designer drugs, techno and porn?

Ah, but then the RIGHT resurgance comes and goes overboard because the population is becoming EXTINCT and unable to REPLENISH the country on their own.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 17:07 | 1620549 NotApplicable
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Quite the divide, isn't it? One collective claims they are victims, while the others respond with collective guilt.

You are correct, no place has been conquered like Germany, formerly the forefront of Western achievement. Of course, the US is next, for exactly the same reasons.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 23:17 | 1621573 MS7
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Poor hard working caucasians. Always the victims. Even when they start wars it is somebody else's fault. The other countries were too enticing with their low cut dresses and all. Really, if caucasians are as dumb as you suggest, perhaps survival of the fittest demands they go the way of the dinosaur. (I'm caucasian, btw, and just want to point out that this comment is fantastically revisionist.)

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 17:12 | 1620577 myztix
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So apparently when this article was released, the market rallied hard... @ 3:21PM EST.

 

what does that mean???!

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 17:31 | 1620646 walküre
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you know what they say.. a new sucker gets born every minute.. lately there's been an abnormal outbreak of suckers.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 19:37 | 1621035 GCT
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LOL this drama reminds me of my boss.  She comes into me monthly and gripes about her daughter.  She goes on that she paid her rent and paid her insurance and she will pay her back.  Two months later she repeats the process and I luagh and tell her to cut her off.  Finally ambout a month ago she comes in and tells me it is the best thing she ever did.  sounds alot like Greece!  The EU is the parent and Greece the kid is running amok with the money.  Why worry about it Greece never did intend to pay it back so who is the dumbass here?  Sounds like the politicians and the EU was snookered as usual.  Wait Italy will be doing the same thing.  This is too funny watching these dumbasses keep giving their bad children money to spend and then complain they are breaking the bank!

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 23:04 | 1621543 MS7
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I think a better analogy would be if her daughter owed tons of money to creditors but had no way to pay them back. Instead of letting her declare bankruptcy, the mother lends her money for the purpose of making payments to the creditors, and tells her she can get that money if she cuts down spending on necessities, and if she agrees to give the mother everything of value before she ultimately declares bankruptcy (which everyone knows she will). The daughter would and should say "FU". But here is where the analogy fails. The entity answering for Greece is the government which is the obedient servant of the troika. The PM especially gets high marks in obedience. The American politicians love him. Enough said.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 19:54 | 1621080 Buck Johnson
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Let Greece die already.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 20:29 | 1621143 keating
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Maybe this?

 

Southern Europe Financial Zone

 1.Portugal, Greece, Spain, Italy and Ireland all leave the Eurozone at once, and default on their loans

2.They establish their own currencies, at once.

3.Each currency is backed by a basket of commodities and vouchers from that country. These commodities would represent the goods and services required by the elderly or poor population such as wheat, olive oil, dairy, wood, bricks, vouchers for routine dental and medical care, and energy. In this fashion, each new currency would actually be backed by commodities such that if there were a run on that currency, it would produce jobs and prosperity.

4.Each country would have a tax rate very favorable to corporations, and a small free port, in the manner of Hong Kong.

 5. Travel within the zone is passport required but unlimited tourist visa. Major limits on work permits and residence permits. Assimilation expected. Work permits mostly for folks who start businesses and create jobs.

 6. Tax policy is set to reimburse zone corporations for currency transaction expenses within the zone. Even though there are five different currencies, it should be almost expense free to do business in the other zone currencies.

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Thu, 09/01/2011 - 03:03 | 1621934 Central Wanker
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If this did not have a tragic end, this would be a comedy.

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