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Greece Runs Out Of Money. Again

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While we are not certain how many times we have used the above headline in the past we know it is not the first time. Nor the fifth. Yet here we are again, reporting that Greece is out of money again. "Near-bankrupt Greece is fast running out of cash while it waits for its next installment of aid from international lenders, a deputy finance minister said on Tuesday, sounding the alarm on the country's precarious financial position. Greece's European partners have repeatedly promised the country will be funded through August, when it must repay a 3.2 billion euro bond, but the details of the funding have yet to be disclosed. In the absence of that money, Greece would run out of funds to pay everyday public expenses ranging from police and other public service wages to pensions and social benefits. "Cash reserves are almost zero. It is risky to say until when (they will last) as it always depends on the budget execution, revenues and expenditure," Deputy Finance Minister Christos Staikouras told state NET television" In other words just like the US yesterday, Greece has also overestimated its revenues and underestimated its expenditures; also Greece in August is what the US itself will be in about 3-4 months, when the debt ceiling is hit. Luckily, the political environment in D.C. is open and cordial, and a prompt resolution to both the debt ceiling issue and the fiscal cliff, especially as they all coincide just in time for the presidential election is guaranteed.

The tragic Greek lament continues via Reuters:

"[W]e are certainly on the brink, we did not receive the aid tranche we were supposed to and we have the pending issue of an ECB bond maturing on Aug. 20."

 

Greece has narrowly dodged bankruptcy several times before, with the government carrying out a juggling act of holding off on paying some suppliers and issuing T-bills until the next tranche of aid from lenders arrives.

 

The assessment of Greece's progress in meeting the terms of its bailout by EU/IMF inspectors, who are currently on a visit to Athens, is not expected until September.

 

Adding to the uncertainty, Greek political leaders have been wrangling over 11.5 billion euros of cuts that are crucial to appeasing the lenders.

When, oh when, will Greece just say enough to this endless tragicomedy and finally pull the plug, letting the chips fall where they may, and extricate everyone from this ridiculous reactionary headline chasing and allegiance to political "fundamentals" driving global stock markets?

 


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Tue, 07/31/2012 - 08:24 | Link to Comment EconSammie
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The trouble is the Greek economy is going badly too.

Greece
 

The volume of retail trade (i.e. turnover in retail trade at constant prices), excluding automotive fuel, decreased by 9.4% in May 2012, compared with May 2011.

http://www.mindfulmoney.co.uk/wp/shaun-richards/the-central-bank-mania-fed-by-mario-draghis-speech-collides-with-economic-reality/

No wonder they are running out of money with numbers like that! VAT receipts must be hard hit.

 

 

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 08:34 | Link to Comment HoofHearted
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Drachmas. Pay all your people in drachmas while taking euros from the ECB (European Central Bitchez)

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 10:11 | Link to Comment engineertheeconomy
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Their perpetual ponzi slavery scam only loans enough money into their economy to pay a fraction of the interest on the loan. X quanity of paper flows in, X2 quanity of paper (and goods and services) flows out. It's a slavery system and it's used all over the entire planet to steal peoples labor and their wealth 

 Why doesn't Zerohedge just tell the truth about it?

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 10:55 | Link to Comment The Big Ching-aso
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Greece isn't broke yet.   Just wait till they run out of other people's money.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 08:38 | Link to Comment ghengis86
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The Greecian economy is not the trouble; it's the fucking European banks that aren't getting funded through the Helenic Republic's pending default. The money will flow to the banks and not the Greeks until the day some Greek pols nut-up and tell the Euro/Troika/Banks to fuck off and die. That day can't come soon enough

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 09:09 | Link to Comment sessinpo
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There will be pain either way, regardless. That is what happens when you are bankrupt. Even if they convert to drachmas, their interest rates will remain high, supressing economic growth, austerity in another form, not imposed by governments, but by free markets.

I think we both agree though that they would be better off leaving the euro and going back to their own currency. The dire economic situation would probably fix itself quicker this way instead of feeding those international financial organization. But they would still have hardships as international money flows from the private sector would be subdued for a while until they really get their financial house in order.

These banks are a menace just because they are TBTF, which means they "must" fail. To be TBTF puts you in a place where you are above the law and corruption grows. That is a fundamenatal flaw that will bring down the system

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 09:27 | Link to Comment avidtango
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Sorry but we just returned from Greece and the economy IS in trouble.   Athens was a  disaster with (unreported) blockages and protests, shops closed, crowds milling, young folks dancing, etc.  Oddly, most folks wanted to stay in the EU since most get checks from the EU via the government.  Coffee at night is unavailable in some coffee shops (don't ask - a stupid regulation).  The two words used by waiters was "not available". Folks were hawking everything - one lady tried to sell her sister's home!

The deluge of locals trying to be "guides" for the ruins was scary.   Students were sklipping class.  Two 20 somthing guys worried what would happen when the government stopped "paying everyone".  I love Greece, the land, the beauty and the food but this was a nightmare.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 12:56 | Link to Comment ElvisDog
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Interesting. I was in Kavala (northern Greece by the coast) a couple of weeks ago and saw none of that. You wouldn't have known there was an economic crisis, except that I didn't notice many people speaking languages other than Greek (lack of tourists?) and you had to pay cash for everything. Shops, hotels, restaurants, bars, etc. never took credit cards. As one restaurant owner explained "Cash only. This is Greece".

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 10:07 | Link to Comment Vet4RonPaul
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ghengis, you are absolutely correct; the tax-payer bailout money goes to the bank shareholders and not the people.  Same as US bailout run by Fed and Treasury; several trillion dollars of wealth transfer from the 99% to the 1%.  Immoral but legal thanks to the sheeple that line up like they're told.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 09:45 | Link to Comment Joe A
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Ever got a ligit bill in Greece when you go for dinner for instance? They don't pay VAT, that is one of the problems.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 10:04 | Link to Comment Navymugsy
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Here in Cyprus the banks are screaming about all the Greek debt they were forced to buy (at gunpoint) and the massive devaluation of said debt. Their bailout started out at 800 million Euros and now the bailout for the entire island is rumored to be 12-15 billion Euros. We're about 1.5 years behind Greece but the collapse here will be just as cataclysmic and we don't have the retail depth that Greece has. The Gov't here upped the VAT to 17% a few months back but that will only make it worse when people stop spending the few Euros they have left.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 10:15 | Link to Comment Vet4RonPaul
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Time to abandon that sinking ship mugsy.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 11:33 | Link to Comment Sir Humphrey
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....and here is the Greek bailout money......and....it´s gone!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TlPo0yCSa4

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 08:22 | Link to Comment Dr. No
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Give the police, public service, pensions and social bennefit recipients IOUs.  This will start them down a road of solutions rather than band-aides.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 08:51 | Link to Comment DeadFred
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They have to be sure of the conversion rate first. Those IOUs will be paid out in drachmas not euros.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 08:22 | Link to Comment Seorse Gorog fr...
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It's called Stockholm Syndrome. Biyatchez.

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Tue, 07/31/2012 - 08:26 | Link to Comment Incubus
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Definition of insanity? 

 

MOAR LOANZ, it'll change if we use the current system MORE. Just brute force some fractional reserve loving and things'll work out.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv5yLmRbHbA

 

And of course, we know that this is by design.  What stage is the great culling?

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 08:28 | Link to Comment azzhatter
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If we could just return to the good old days!

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 08:29 | Link to Comment yellowsub
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What's left to bail Spain out with?

 

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 08:33 | Link to Comment ghengis86
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Italy, you dolt. They'll sell some bonds at 7% and the loan to Spain at 3%. Geez, this stuff is so easy even a 'tard like me gets it.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 08:29 | Link to Comment Jlmadyson
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Beyond crises.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 08:31 | Link to Comment lolmao500
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Greece can get out of the euro... the US can't get out of the US dollar.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 08:35 | Link to Comment Peter Pan
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The USA does not have to get out of the dollar. It just has to get out of Iraq and Afghanistan.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 08:42 | Link to Comment ghengis86
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That and get the FED out of the US dollar. Even US Treasury issued dollars are better than leaving the money supply to a privately run Rothschild banking cartel.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 08:52 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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Greenbacks & silver certificates bitchez!

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Just keep your ass away from playhouses & book depositories...

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 09:29 | Link to Comment Agent P
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Au Contraire Mon Frere.  The US will get out of the of the dollar.  The new currency will look just like the old one, only it will have a fraction of the value.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 08:38 | Link to Comment Peter Pan
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For Greece the problem is not that they have run out of money. The true problem is that they have run out of polticians with the balls to tell Europe to go and get stuffed. As a result they are left holding a screwdriver (the euro) that is not compatible to their screw (i.e. their economy).

The Europeans on the other hand are happy to take deposits of euros fleeing Greece, are happy to sell armaments to Greece which fears Turkish intentions, are happy to let Turkey be menacing so that Greece is unable to develop her Aegean oil deposits.

The fools at the EU and European banks were happy for a decade to hand over subsidies and loans without collateral and without performance criteria and now they cry foul over Greece's inability to perform when we are at the front door of a worldwide depression.

Disaster beckons us all and it is only our position in the line that differs.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 09:08 | Link to Comment GERxit
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The Europeans on the other hand are happy to take deposits of euros fleeing Greece...

Sorry but that's BS! Ever heard of Target II???

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 15:58 | Link to Comment Peter Pan
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Is that so? Then why worry about deposits fleeing Greece?

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 09:50 | Link to Comment Joe A
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Nobody put a gun to Greek's head and said "and now you have to borrow money". Many of them wanted that Mercedes, that bigger home. Borrowing money, costs money. Don't live above you means. Many in Greek got on that EU-subsidie gravy train. I will give you that the EU knew that the Greek economy was bogus and that much money was disappearing.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 08:35 | Link to Comment asteroids
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Nothing "should" happen until after the middle of Aug. But, could Greece defaulting in say Sept. be very very bad for everyone else? Remember folks, events can happen very very quickly.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 08:36 | Link to Comment ZeroPower
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The Greek Tragedy continues.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 08:37 | Link to Comment Vegetius
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The desperate clutching at straws

 

No matter what political reasons are given for war, the underlying reason is always economic.

- A. J. P. Taylor

 

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 08:41 | Link to Comment Peter Pan
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War is organised theft. Nothing more. Nothing less.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 09:13 | Link to Comment sessinpo
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I would say it is quite disorganized. Look at how many banks have stolen without going to full scale physical war.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 08:38 | Link to Comment bank guy in Brussels
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John Ward's 'The Slog' says there is a tug of war right now between Germany/euro-zone and the USA, over who will own Greece, and they are competing to bribe or buy the Greek politicians, who are greatly tempted by the US offers which look more generous to them.

The Slog says Geithner has offered the US as Greece's economic 'saviour' after exiting the euro, and then using Greece for not only its mineral wealth, but as a new American central base for the Middle East ... maybe even one that will replace Israel ...

Fascinating stuff, and Ward seems to have a lot of sources. His most recent piece:

'Greece: the Washington v Berlin poker game returns…to Athens’ advantage'

http://hat4uk.wordpress.com/2012/07/30/greece-the-washington-v-berlin-po...

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 08:50 | Link to Comment Peter Pan
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There is some truth to this but what has been left out is that Clinton met with the Greek PM very recently to discuss Aegean oil but to also warn Greece not to declare an exclusive eonomic zone without first consulting with Turkey. So the US is not just after Greece but she also wants to secure Turkey's allegiance.

What is being reported and what we know are nothing but crumbs compared to the full behind the scenes goings on, that are either not reported or reported with the truth hidden from sight.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 09:59 | Link to Comment Joe A
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Plenty of oil in that area which Greece, Turkey, Cyprus and Israel all want to have their hands on. US tries to walk awy with it. The US already has a base in Kosovo to guard the minerals there. Just map where the minerals and oil are on the world map, you will find the US army or a base there.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 08:40 | Link to Comment orangegeek
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And this is going to continue until every last avenue is exhausted at which time massive defaults will start to occur.  Socialists don't give up easily.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 08:41 | Link to Comment Getting Old Sucks
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I think eventually, the PIIGS will all pull an Iceland.  Be fun to watch them recover like Iceland is while the rest of Euroland goes to shit.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 09:39 | Link to Comment TIMBEEER
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I don't think Iceland was so dependant on entitlements and economic support (e.g. EU structural aid.) They were/are hard working people, that's what makes a successful country. If they would join the EU, maybe in 10, 20 years they'd have the same lazy entitlement mentality as most of the entitled EU, who knows..

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 09:56 | Link to Comment Joe A
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Plus Iceland is energy independent, PIIGS are not.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 08:49 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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Oh, hell with it... I'll lend them the money they need... Now where's my printing press...

I'll just take Santorini & a few ingots of gold as a small security collateral & print up all you'll ever need...

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 08:57 | Link to Comment Bob
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When, oh when, will Greece just say enough to this endless tragicomedy and finally pull the plug, letting the chips fall where they may, and extricate everyone from this ridiculous reactionary headline chasing and allegiance to political "fundamentals" driving global stock markets?

When will the people in the EU core stop allowing their "leaders" to put them on the hook to bail out banksters and their "clients"?  Even the divide-and-conquer blame game is absurd in that if you actually believe the periphery is peopled by irredeemable parasites, funding the charade is untenable. 

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 08:58 | Link to Comment orangedrinkandchips
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Where does it all go??

NOT just for Greece....for everyone? You cannot tell me govt employees are not stealing 24/7!!! NO CONTROLS WHATSOEVER.....NONE.

 

Bottom line....GOVT and EXPLOIT (ME) are SYNONYMOUS!!!

 

Ever since each govt was founded...people like to RIP OFF THE GOVT...which fucks EVERYBODY....

 

Humans are the weakest animal....

 

 

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 08:59 | Link to Comment XtraBullish
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Herr und Frau Lieberschauden are going say "Auf wiederseden" and take their Deutschmarks and leave the southern floaters holding a large smelly bag. Germany will collateralize their own banks with their 3,811 tonnes of gold and circle the wagoontz. Own gold and silver and you will survive. Short all cash.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 09:29 | Link to Comment magpie
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The ultimate 'So long, suckers' move would be to sell the PIIGS Target-2 credit as a kind of debt.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 11:25 | Link to Comment TPTB_r_TBTF
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German Gold is Paper Gold.  The Germans hold a piece of paper which allocates gold to them. They can circle their wagoontz around that piece of paper.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 09:00 | Link to Comment monopoly
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 "Luckily, the political environment in D.C. is open and cordial, and a prompt resolution to both the debt ceiling issue and the fiscal cliff, especially as they all coincide just in time for the presidential election is guaranteed."

LMAO. That was great.

And on the idiot channel Jim Grant is on but hardly allowed to say anything. Makes sense since he speaks the truth and that is the last thing they want on this stupid channel.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 09:00 | Link to Comment allocater
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>the country will be funded through August, when it must repay a 3.2 billion euro bond

 

what bond? to whom?

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 09:01 | Link to Comment monopoly
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Hmmm. COH is down 15%. Are the top 3% slowing down also??? Inquiring minds would like to know.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 09:04 | Link to Comment f16hoser
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One more time for 'ole times sake. Can you say Drachma?

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 09:10 | Link to Comment Neethgie
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My friends in the euro and he hates that shit he tells me everyday, he says man i really gotta lose those greeks in the worst kind of way, they sit on their ass he works his hands to the bone to give them money every coupon day, they want more bailouts just to stay at home, well my friend you gotta say.....

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 09:12 | Link to Comment PatientZero
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Golden Dawn and Drachmas be the way to go.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 09:19 | Link to Comment marcusfenix
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Greece needs to get some of that spartan mojo going again, dump this whole Euro leech-craft and strike out on their own again. it's sad and disturbing to see an entire nation suffer as the result of corrupt politicians begging money off a bunch of private bankster criminals selling current and future generations up the river. 

Greece has the opportunity to set the example, burn it down and start over, it can't possibly be any worse than what they are enduring now, but it will get worse for them if they continue down this path... 

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 09:20 | Link to Comment Agent P
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"Greece has also overestimated its revenues and underestimated its expenditures..."

I must be in a Greek marriage, because my wife always overestimates my revenues and I always underestimate her expenditures.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 09:22 | Link to Comment SokPOTUS
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Actually, the current "CR" (or, 'Continuing Resolution') in the U.S. runs out on September 30 (end of the current U.S. Federal Fiscal Year); just prior to the probable debt ceiling breach in mid-October; setting up a wonderful 'government shutdown' fight just prior to the election, a time when resonableness and due consideration shall be in short supply.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 09:24 | Link to Comment bugs_
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i run out of money at the end of every month too.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 09:35 | Link to Comment SokPOTUS
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No doubt.  However, if you print your own, the boys at .gov will throw you in prison.  It doesn't seem to work the other way around, however.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 09:48 | Link to Comment markar
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If ever the time was ripe for a new Greek junta, it's now. Where IS the military in all this?

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 10:12 | Link to Comment TrainWreck1
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Well this was unexpected.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 10:30 | Link to Comment bigerny
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The *sigh* is contained in the title.

'Greece Runs Out Of Money. Again'

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 12:49 | Link to Comment earnulf
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One has to wonder at the intersection of all these events, Greece in turmoil, the US in turmoil, Europa in turmoil, the Latin Americans countries squabbling over tarriffs, the african countries in civil war, asia about to meltdown....

Man, just what were those Mayans thinking!

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