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Greek Bailout #3 Coming? Barroso Working On "New Greek Program"

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Wed, 08/31/2011 - 13:53 | 1619537 kengland
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Loss of confidence coming? What's going to change long term outcome idiots?

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 13:56 | 1619556 russki standart
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Greeks getting greeked, french style.  Nothing will change other than the banksters will milk longer before they stick the bad debt to the public.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 13:59 | 1619572 kengland
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Russki standart? Ach was! Leibstandarte!

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 13:55 | 1619549 ml8ml8
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It is time for a default.  The French and German politicians are just trying to figure out how to make a Greek credit event politically palatable.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 14:06 | 1619561 kengland
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Greek default means Italy, Spain and Portugual default. They have used Greek debt to "shore up" their capital base. Where do you suppose that low cost collateral is going to come from to plug the hole?

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:23 | 1619994 disabledvet
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Ooops.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 13:55 | 1619551 Id fight Gandhi
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What are they gonna do? Default bwahaha. Greece really has the EU by the balls. They can lead them anywhere promised them and spit in their faces because nobody wants to rock the boat and ruin the status quo.

Euro should be trashed, but nope. But maybe that only shows how shitty the dollar is.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 13:58 | 1619568 russki standart
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It is worth remembering that the same cabal of banksters control the euro and dollar, just like they control the republicans and democrats. We, the sheeple, are presented with phony, pre determined alternatives that never deviate from the status quo. Different branches, same rotten tree.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 13:57 | 1619563 papaswamp
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Fuck this is comical! 

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 14:03 | 1619592 oogs66
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comical in a non funny way :)  but all is good, who cares that prior plans never worked - or were even implemented, with this and QE3 we should be at new highs!

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 14:33 | 1619759 Hansel
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^This.  Announcing new plans periodically is the policy.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 14:02 | 1619587 HelluvaEngineer
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God bless you EUO November calls.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 14:03 | 1619590 centerline
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And yet the world seems to ignore the spiral pattern, in tighter and tighter circles around the drain.  When the big flush comes, everyone will say they never saw it coming... of course.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 14:05 | 1619600 Long-John-Silver
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Greece is like the drunk relative that gets free drinks from family members so he'll go away for a while.

 

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 16:46 | 1620475 MS7
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More like the family wants to get him drunk so they can clean out his pockets.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 14:06 | 1619603 Joebloinvestor
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What will really be a hoot is Greece going under and the rest of the EU taking a non catastrophic hit.

The threat of taking everyone else with it is getting old.

Although, if the opposite happens, then proof that the EU was a house of cards that is so fucked up even a printing press won't help.

 

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 14:14 | 1619643 Waffen
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I admit.. it would be an incredible bummer for Greece to "officially default" leave the EURO and for nothing to happen.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 14:24 | 1619694 Translational Lift
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Bloomberg just reported that Greece "denies" that it hired a US law firm, Cleary, Gottlieb, Steern & Hamilton, LLP, to prepare for the countries exit from the Euro zone.  Ooops.....

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 14:27 | 1619727 Dick Darlington
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We all know what it means when politicians deny something in public...

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 14:56 | 1619834 tekhneek
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To quote Billy boy: "I did not have sexual relations, with that woman, Ms. Lewinski."

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:51 | 1620176 Instant Wealth
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Never believe in anything until it has been officially denied.

-Otto von Bismarck-

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:58 | 1620228 Lord Welligton
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Headlines from Greece also contributed to a muted tone. The heavily indebted country's parliamentary budget office said in a report that its debt dynamics are veering "out of control" and the country is unlikely to meet its deficit targets for the year. In addition, Greece's finance ministry denied a local press report saying that it had hired U.S. law firm Cleary, Gottlieb, Steen and Hamilton LLP to prepare for a potential exit from the euro zone.

http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20110831-713656.html

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 14:14 | 1619645 DosZap
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If they bail these dipwads out one more time I may commit hara-kiri.

I am so sick of this I could literally scream.There,just did it, like a tree that falls in the forest no one heard.

 I mean how many Do Overs do we get?.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 14:14 | 1619648 SeverinSlade
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I'm looking forward to CNBS insisting that all is well when the 5th bailout of Greece is announced.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 14:16 | 1619654 centerline
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Yahoo Finance will report "Stock Market Rallies on 5th Greek Bailout Success"  LOLOLOLOLOL

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 14:19 | 1619676 Rogier
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Tyler, calling this Greek bailout #3 is simply rediculous, Barroso is simply trying to put himself on the map by playing aroud with a few million from the regular EU budget. Zero Hedge does perfectly fine without hyping this sort of non-news.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 14:24 | 1619707 Dick Darlington
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Barroso is just paving the way for his own insolvent country to get some juice out of the european taxpayers.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 14:22 | 1619690 lizzy36
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Everything happens in 3's; bailouts, QE's and 3rd anniversary of LEH bankruptcy.

Hard to believe that that the answer to insolvency or overleverage isn't to inflate the assets side of the balance sheet but to forgive some of the debt on liability side. Of course the status quo loves the former, because it creates the illusion of a solution plus has the added benefit of making them richer. The latter, is the only actual solution.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 14:22 | 1619693 Dick Darlington
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There was headlines today where the Ponzimaster Rehn made comments that Greek debt ratio subject to unfavorable developments and that EU figures show Greece's gross debt ratio has increased.

So, who would have thought that pouring 200+ bn into an already insolvent black hole is a BAD idea...

EU conclusion: We need to pour in some MORE!

Greece, default now and then go back to drachma. It's time to disintegrate. It will hurt, just like it hurts now, but it's necessary.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 14:40 | 1619791 irishlink
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Usually when Barroso makes an announcement like that , there is also problems surfacing in his beloved Portugal. I will give it a week and we will here more from that quarter. News out of Lisbon has been awfully quiet of late. 

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 14:46 | 1619818 Dick Darlington
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Correctomundo.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 14:51 | 1619841 sudzee
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The european bank run is having its desired effects. Zero interest rates mandated by gov'ts is not a free market rate. What's a bank without depositors? Government.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:10 | 1619945 mfoste1
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When will these fuckers get the point that GREEK BAILOUTS ARENT FUCKING WORKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

All they are doing is literally stealing from citizens

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:18 | 1619970 youngman
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Once....Twice...Three times a LADY.....and I love youuuuuuuuuuu.......and your free money.......I have to admit....the Greeks are winning....free money and they just keep on giving....

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 16:50 | 1620486 MS7
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I wish they were winning. No free money is going to the people. Their standard of living is in steep decline, their unemployment rate has skyrocketed. You may say that this would happen anyway if they were to default. True, but at least then they would have had all their assets and their sovereignty. The government of Greece does not do a single thing that the people of Greece want. It is the servant of the Troika.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:27 | 1620023 mfoste1
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When all these euro youths riot, why dont they just go straight after the policymakers or banks instead of fucking up shit in the streets? Thats exactly what should have happened in London, they should have went sraight to liverpool St and destroyed the place.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:40 | 1620105 Lord Welligton
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When it comes to recapitalising our banks, Europe has been acting decisively. Our banks are significantly better capitalised now than they were six months ago and further measures are being taken following last July's stress tests.

But did not the stress tests conclude that a mere €25bn was all that was required to recapitalise the banks? Why is this still an issue? /idiots

 tightening rules on insider trading and market manipulation; and presenting a framework for the resolution of failing banks.

It was the insiders that did it. /idiots

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 16:26 | 1620377 markar
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speaking of quiet lately the Irish seem to be suffering in quiet desperation. What's the word out the cored and pitted Emerald Isle? silence of the lambs?

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 16:51 | 1620490 Lord Welligton
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Unemployment at record levels. over 14% officially. More likely 20% when you count those who are not registered.

Government revenues €34bn. Expenditure €52bn. Deficit of €18bn to be reduced to 3% of GDP by 2014. So cuts or tax increases of say €13bn.

Public service exempt fro redundancy and wage cuts.

 All of the domestic banks bar one now in full State ownership.

 

Mortgage arrears growing. Businesses failing.

 

No policy other than "austerity".

 

Waiting for a domino to fall.

The the politicians will blame "something else" and proceed with default anyway.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 19:38 | 1621039 Buck Johnson
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Let Greece default, but they can't or won't.  There is no way that they can pay back anything.

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