Greek Bank Deposits Plunge By €5.5 Billion In September: Biggest Monthly Drop Ever

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Tue, 11/08/2011 - 12:02 | 1856607 PaperBear
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Who were the fools putting in €1.446 billion into Greek banks during August 2011 ?

Tue, 11/08/2011 - 12:04 | 1856621 fuu
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Ben and Timmah?

Tue, 11/08/2011 - 12:07 | 1856636 Lord Welligton
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The ECB via some SPIV?

Tue, 11/08/2011 - 12:18 | 1856683 DormRoom
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why doesn't the EU go after Goldman SAchs for selling Greece swaps to hide its deficit, so it could get in the union?  Oh right, if they crush GS, the economy would collapse, and US Congresspeople would lose in the election.

 

GS owes EU taxpayers $$$

 

A pox upon the house of Goldman SAchs!

 

#occupywallstreet.

Tue, 11/08/2011 - 12:20 | 1856698 topcallingtroll
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They cant go after goldman sucks and greece, because every single southern european country did it too.

Tue, 11/08/2011 - 12:27 | 1856717 DormRoom
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But that's the @#ASF problem.  Goldman Sachs conducts these questionable dealings, and it has primary dealer status, and is recognized as a TBTF bank, implying that if it goes down, it'd lead to systemic collapse.

 

So GS is untouchable, as it continues its de-facto criminal dealings.  And taxpayers are on the hook, if deals go bust.

 

Why the @#$# do regulators give a near criminal enterprise global financial immunity?  Arggh.  makes me so mad.

 

#occupywallstreet.

Tue, 11/08/2011 - 12:43 | 1856779 Biosci
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Stage 2 in Kubler-Ross.  There, there.  It will pass.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 23:25 | 1868776 Richard Whitney
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Greece tried that gambit, about one year ago. The threat lasted only over a week-end, until it was revealed that 1) Greece invited GS to Greece to do 2) what Goldman had been asked to do previously by several other EU members. That was not the first weasel move by the zeropeans, and many have followed.

You are obviously underinformed about this issue. Continue to mindlessly rant, it is your birthright.

 

Tue, 11/08/2011 - 12:19 | 1856692 Dr. Engali
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Uhmm you are. Or should I say you and all the other American tax payers.

Tue, 11/08/2011 - 12:22 | 1856706 Long-John-Silver
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You must use an intermediary bank to convert fiat to Gold and Silver when buying on-line.

Tue, 11/08/2011 - 13:11 | 1856882 Jean
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You, if you pay taxes

Tue, 11/08/2011 - 12:02 | 1856612 AngryGerman
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rats are fleeing the ship. at least the smart rats.

Tue, 11/08/2011 - 12:21 | 1856700 Breaker
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"Look for this number to continue dropping month after month as more and more Greeks move their cash offshore."

Well then. All is well. They can leverage the deposits and buy Greek and Italian bonds. I think this is a big positive.

Tue, 11/08/2011 - 12:25 | 1856713 topcallingtroll
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I have a question.

Why doesnt the EMU plan an orderly transition of greece out of the Euro. Otherwise doesnt everyone know that the transition out will be disorderly? Everyone knows it is inevitable now. The greeks are taking all their money out, that which isnt needed to pay immediate bills.

Why are they all going to allow a.disorderly exit and say " we couldnt see this coming?" No way will greeks pledge national assets as collateral.

Tue, 11/08/2011 - 12:30 | 1856745 Rainman
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simple one word answer is contagion

Tue, 11/08/2011 - 12:52 | 1856823 topcallingtroll
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It seems if they start early enough they could kick out portugal and greece, and they would have saved some money they could then put toward ringfencing italy and spain. All the money they have already wasted on greece would have been a substantial addition to the EFSF.

Tue, 11/08/2011 - 12:35 | 1856751 DormRoom
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if Greece exits, the rest of the PIIGs will be a target.  And theremaining PIIGS--Italy in particular-- bond yields go up, they won't be able to rollover their debts, and they will go bust.  And if they go bust, then the EZ, and Euro are finished.  And if the Euro is a failed currency, then you have a global systemic collapse.  That's the contangion the ECB fears.  We are close to that point. weeks/months away.

Tue, 11/08/2011 - 12:42 | 1856775 traderjoe
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Because the money-changers want their odious debt paid back.

Tue, 11/08/2011 - 12:02 | 1856614 Jim in MN
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Who you gonna call when the money's all gone?

"Another senior government official said Greece's eurozone partners are demanding that five top Greek officials co-sign a letter reaffirming their commitment to the country's bailout deals and economic reforms, in return for the release of a vital euro8 billion ($11 billion) loan installment later this month. He said those officials are Papandreou and Samaras, the Bank of Greece governor, the new prime minister and the new finance minister."

Pathetic.  A letter.

 

Tue, 11/08/2011 - 12:06 | 1856632 kaiserhoff
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You were expecting maybe, the pledge of their left nut and first born child?

Tue, 11/08/2011 - 12:14 | 1856671 AngryGerman
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all their daughters, delviers as virgins when they turn 16! then maybe we will release some gold! buahahahaha

Tue, 11/08/2011 - 12:03 | 1856619 YesWeKahn
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I am only looking at the month before, wasn't that a positive influx? It must be bullish.

Tue, 11/08/2011 - 12:03 | 1856620 YesWeKahn
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I am only looking at the month before, wasn't that a positive influx? It must be bullish.

Tue, 11/08/2011 - 12:04 | 1856622 kaiserhoff
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transitory - as in, on it's way to zero.

Tue, 11/08/2011 - 12:05 | 1856624 Odin
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I mean can this market really stay a float for another month? It's already over bought, and clinging on to dear life... Call me a bear, but this is insanity...

Tue, 11/08/2011 - 12:05 | 1856625 Abitdodgie
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I cannot see the graph the adds are over the top of it.

Tue, 11/08/2011 - 12:38 | 1856759 Ralph Spoilsport
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I have the same problem on the iPad.

Try the "Printer Friendly View" option at the end of the article.

Tue, 11/08/2011 - 12:52 | 1856825 pods
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Well, have you ever gone skiing?

Just imagine a ski slope with a little jump near the bottom.

pods

Tue, 11/08/2011 - 12:15 | 1856627 Lord Welligton
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 With every additional deposit outflow, expect ever more money to be needed to keep the Greek sham of a banking system afloat

And is this not the absolute truth.

Anybody in Greece holding money in a Greek bank now faces two risks.

The collapse of the banks.

And the, now not insignificant, risk that Greece might exit the Euro.

An exit from the Euro should be their greatest worry.

They would be better having all of their Euros under the mattress now.

Why take the risk of having them forcibly converted in a new Drachma?

Tue, 11/08/2011 - 13:18 | 1856913 RiverRoad
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It's possible that a new Drachma might be just what the doctor ordered especially since the MO of most currencies now seems to be intent on winning the race to the bottom anyway.  Greece would be overrun with tourists (Santorini redux!) and the velocity of the currency re that aspect would do the country a world of financial good in regard to what other hiccups would occur.

Tue, 11/08/2011 - 12:07 | 1856638 EZT
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This is Bullish, NOT

Tue, 11/08/2011 - 12:08 | 1856641 ssp2s
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I don't think this is going to make it to a "month after month" situation.  As Mish explained yesterday, the rational action for Greeks is to pull their money from banks, and the run that this amounts to will bring it down.  As they say, the collapse comes slowly, and then all at once:

http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2011/11/history-suggests-greece-will-freeze.html

Tue, 11/08/2011 - 12:08 | 1856646 youngman
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Whoever has money in a greek bank right now isa an idiot...but then again.....

Tue, 11/08/2011 - 12:09 | 1856650 partimer1
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Its not about Greece anymore, and its never really about Greeece.  Whatever they do, it simply does not matter anymore.  

Tue, 11/08/2011 - 12:10 | 1856655 yabyum
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Today. We are all Greeks.

Tue, 11/08/2011 - 12:11 | 1856657 Manipulism
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The Italian Job – How Passports Influence Monetary Policy Decisions

The nationality of the ECB’s managerial staff matters for the monetary policy of the central bank, two German and Austrian economists show in a new paper. The findings are so politically charged that the detailed results of the study are kept secret.

http://economicsintelligence.com/2011/11/01/the-italian-job-how-passport...

I would love to hear smoething about this from Tyler.


Tue, 11/08/2011 - 12:49 | 1856811 RiverRoad
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Yeah, and the "official line" is they're all supposed "to leave their passports at the door"........riiiight.

Tue, 11/08/2011 - 12:11 | 1856658 mayhem_korner
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Tue, 11/08/2011 - 12:12 | 1856661 Dr. Engali
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What I want to know is why anybody keeps money in the Greek banks in the first place.

Tue, 11/08/2011 - 12:51 | 1856820 JPM Hater001
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Normalcy Bias.

Tue, 11/08/2011 - 13:20 | 1856921 Calmyourself
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No shit, who would have thought the banks contained 5.5 billion euro??  Hello morons!!!

 

Your country is swirling the drain, convert Greek marked euro to N. euro and hide under bed..  Or alternatively you could buy some metal, high strength steel and lead perhaps..

Tue, 11/08/2011 - 12:13 | 1856668 YesWeKahn
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How much money does Greece has in deposit? From the chart, it should be zero already. That's green shoots, it can only go up from here.

Tue, 11/08/2011 - 12:15 | 1856674 TideFighter
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Anybody know why KITCO is down again. I've got some rumors, but no good source.

Tue, 11/08/2011 - 12:25 | 1856712 Stax Edwards
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I heard they refuse to sell Gold right now, because it is trading too cheap vs Fiat

Tue, 11/08/2011 - 13:35 | 1856982 MissCellany
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That never worried them before.

Tue, 11/08/2011 - 12:20 | 1856677 The Swedish Chef
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Greeks are suddenly big, if not the biggest, foreign owners of Swedish stocks. They have vacuumed Stockholm OMX for a place to put their money. Capital flight bitchez!

Tue, 11/08/2011 - 12:18 | 1856686 BarryG
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Germany - The Biggest Debt Transgressor In History....

http://germanywatch.blogspot.com/2011/11/germany-biggest-debt-transgressor-in.html

Tue, 11/08/2011 - 12:19 | 1856690 americanspirit
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Greeks are cashing out their bank deposits for lots of reasons but my guess is that the primary reason is that so many have no income now and are now living on the last of their savings.

Tue, 11/08/2011 - 12:26 | 1856716 Capitalist10
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Well at least that's progress, compared to living on the Germans' savings.

Tue, 11/08/2011 - 12:28 | 1856727 AngryGerman
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i don't mind them living of my money when they fulfill the necessary conditions (see my comment above)

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