Greek Bank Run Hits Record: Unprecedented €6.8 Billion In Deposits Pulled From Greek Banks In October

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Tue, 12/13/2011 - 13:44 | 1974689 pods
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It will slow as it approaches zero.

pods

Tue, 12/13/2011 - 13:48 | 1974709 Comay Mierda
Tue, 12/13/2011 - 14:03 | 1974762 gojam
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Top Trumps!

Economists scariest charts. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/in-pictures-16090055

It appears the BBC have brought together top economists and each in turn has shone a torch on their face and revealed their scariest charts of 2011

 

Tue, 12/13/2011 - 14:19 | 1974849 Chris Jusset
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"One thing is certain: November data, and then December, and so forth, will only be worse and worse and worse, until the whole country finally implodes."

 

Domino #1 is about to tip over ...

Tue, 12/13/2011 - 14:33 | 1974927 machineh
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Given normal money multipliers, a banking system that has lost one-fourth of its deposits in less than two years (as well as having its asset values impaired) is deeply insolvent.

So how are Greek banks staying open? Simple: the ECB is on the hook for their negative net worth. ECB is advancing the euros, week-by-week, to cover the accelerating run on Greek deposits.

When the Troika loans stop and Greece walks, the ECB itself ends up with a massive nonperforming loan to Greece ... which it will continue to book at full principal value plus accumulated interest, on the grounds that 'We don't take haircuts.'

And so the gangrene spreads from the extremities to the beating heart of Europe.

Tue, 12/13/2011 - 14:10 | 1974772 Ahmeexnal
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Greeks know that part of Merkel's demands was that all Greek bank deposits become property of the German Reich.

Meanwhile, in France, in yet another act of petulant stupidity, Sarkozy bans poor people from areas in Paris which from now on are only FOR RICH PEOPLE.

In other words, LET THEM EAT MUD PIE:

Paris bans beggars from most popular shopping and tourist hotspots

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/dec/13/paris-bans-beggars-tourist-h...

 

The glittering Christmas window displays in Paris's luxury stores are often offset by a shivering person begging for coins nearby, huddled behind a cardboard sign saying "hungry".

With the French economy in crisis and the looming spectre of another recession, Paris's poor and homeless people are more present than ever in doorways and metro entrances. Campaigners have demanded action on the country's housing crisis. Instead President Nicolas Sarkozy has launched a war on beggars, setting himself against Paris's popular mayor.

Sarkozy's interior minister and long-time right-hand man, Claude Guéant, has issued a series of decrees banning begging around Paris's most popular Christmas shopping and tourist spots. He says arresting and fining beggars is crucial to stop foreign visitors being pestered by begging "delinquents" run by organised mafia gangs.

The Champs Elysées was first on his list with a begging ban from September to January, which has been extended to next summer. Now two more Christmas begging no-go zones have been created: around the famous Galeries Lafayette and Printemps department stores, as well as the Louvre and the Tuileries Gardens.

 

L I B E R T E      *       E G A L I T E     

Tue, 12/13/2011 - 14:35 | 1974934 ParkAveFlasher
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L I B E R T E      *       E G A L I T E   *    BULLSHITE

 

Fixed.

Tue, 12/13/2011 - 14:16 | 1974826 vast-dom
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I'm amazed, given funduhmentals aka reality, that bank runs to date are so conservative.

Tue, 12/13/2011 - 14:37 | 1974944 Winston Smith 2009
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"I'm amazed, given funduhmentals aka reality, that bank runs to date are so conservative."

Me, too. The sheep slowly awaken, realize they are being sheared and will soon be mutton.  If the average Greek had not been so susceptible to BS propaganda, the total withdrawal of Greek deposits would have been over long ago.  But why should Greeks be any more aware of what's actually going on than are the general populations of other countries?

Tue, 12/13/2011 - 13:44 | 1974690 yabyum
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Bank run, coming to a country near you. P.S. your shoe box pays the same interest.

Tue, 12/13/2011 - 13:48 | 1974711 SilverRhino
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P.S. your shoe box pays the same interest

And at this point has LESS chance of being robbed (as long as you are discrete)

Tue, 12/13/2011 - 14:16 | 1974829 vast-dom
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Funny.

Tue, 12/13/2011 - 13:59 | 1974764 Vergeltung
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and, I can actually guard my shoebox! that's a win-win scenario, you ask me.

 

Tue, 12/13/2011 - 14:15 | 1974825 DoChenRollingBearing
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Yes!  I can get my zero percent interest (which is better than some bank accounts) and have Mr. Beretta help me look over the cash.  Also, it is there in case of a Bank Holiday, instantly deployable into more gold (whn I am back in the USA on Thursday anyway).

Win-win, bitchez!

Tue, 12/13/2011 - 14:18 | 1974846 The_Laughing_Man
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the bank of cole haan is doing all right these days

Tue, 12/13/2011 - 13:45 | 1974695 My Taint
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I'm just kind of amazed there is still that much money in Greek banks period. More oozo please.

Tue, 12/13/2011 - 13:55 | 1974743 GeneMarchbanks
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Not for long...

Tue, 12/13/2011 - 13:46 | 1974696 Village Smithy
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My bet is that we will never see the November data, Greece won't make it that far.

Tue, 12/13/2011 - 13:47 | 1974697 SilverRhino
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Tue, 12/13/2011 - 13:46 | 1974698 qussl3
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Do banks need deposits to survive?

Cant they just play the sovereign bond as collateral game for the next 3 years?

Tue, 12/13/2011 - 13:46 | 1974699 Corn1945
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I would be withdrawing money if I lived in one of the PIIGS. The next question is, do you keep it in Euros?

Does the Euro survive when the PIIGS leave (or Germany) and you keep your cash? Or does the Euro implode and you lose everything anyway?

I would get the money out of Euros entirely.

Tue, 12/13/2011 - 13:51 | 1974726 knight99
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You buy the necessities you will need. Keep a little spending money put the rest in gold and silver

Tue, 12/13/2011 - 14:19 | 1974847 DoChenRollingBearing
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@ Corn1945

+ 1

I WILL be withdrawing money living in the USA.  I will keep some in FRNs and put the rest in gold.

If I were living in one of the PIIGS now, I would be very nervous, asking just the same questions you did.

Tue, 12/13/2011 - 15:03 | 1975080 Joaquin Juarez
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Why do you think the dollar is a rocket?

Tue, 12/13/2011 - 13:50 | 1974723 junkyardjack
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We need a ban on bank withdrawals.  These damn deposit speculators are disrupting our entire system!

Tue, 12/13/2011 - 13:57 | 1974756 agent default
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Will come.  Label it as something like fighting the drug trade or some other mambo jumbo  and impose a withdrawal limit of say $200 per month.  Everything else through credit card.  While at it ban possession of cash higher than the $200 limit. Enforce insanely severe penalties in the name of rule of law and blah blah.

Tue, 12/13/2011 - 14:22 | 1974872 DoChenRollingBearing
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If that´s coming, better get busy and get some paper out ASAP vs. having electrons in the bank.  If they slapped a limit of $200 / month (or even $500 / month), that would affect and hurt a lot of people (like those who cannot bank during the daytime).

Au > FRNs > electrons in the bank

Tue, 12/13/2011 - 13:58 | 1974759 goldfreak
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you're a terrorist and the drones can spot you taking money (your money) out of BAC and blow you up on the spot. And besides we have pictures of you with al qaeda

Tue, 12/13/2011 - 14:25 | 1974890 sitenine
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It's called a Bank Holiday, and yes, it is coming. Country by country. Your deposits are not safe. They have already been pledged as collateral to lenders with 'senior creditor' status. The FDIC is bankrupt, and taxpayers (you) will be paying for more bailouts in short order. Debt has consequences - either you pay it back, or you default.

Tue, 12/13/2011 - 13:51 | 1974725 YesWeKahn
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I am surprised that they still have stuff left.

Tue, 12/13/2011 - 14:00 | 1974767 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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just toilet paper called euros

Tue, 12/13/2011 - 14:08 | 1974797 Sudden Debt
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To bad those metal strips in the bills are a real pain in the ass... Thats why I like to wipe my ass with 1 dollar bills, NO WIRE IN THOSE!!!

Tue, 12/13/2011 - 14:46 | 1974856 Ahmeexnal
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Those strips are actually the antenna.

Each and every bill is a monitoring device. Cameras on each side, energy provided by piezoelectric nano particles in the ink.

Welcome to your worst nightmare.

Tue, 12/13/2011 - 13:54 | 1974732 Corn1945
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I'm curious what this chart would have looked like in Argentina before they defaulted.

Tue, 12/13/2011 - 13:55 | 1974736 Iliketurtles
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should I read this as bullish? I have not heard CNBC's take on this yet.

Tue, 12/13/2011 - 13:55 | 1974742 Calmyourself
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Simply amazing there is that much left to pull out..

Tue, 12/13/2011 - 13:56 | 1974747 SheepDog-One
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SO anyway...here we are with the DOW stuck at +60 since the stick-save earlier, frozen there like a fly in amber...what do we get a 3:30 rumor to ramp it or bleed off to red by close?

 

Tue, 12/13/2011 - 13:56 | 1974748 vegas
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I swear, I didn't know you could deposit sheep and ouzo in a bank.

 

http://vegasxau.blogspot.com

Tue, 12/13/2011 - 13:58 | 1974757 El Oregonian
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Greece meet frying pan.

Tue, 12/13/2011 - 13:58 | 1974760 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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rehypothecate that!

Tue, 12/13/2011 - 14:05 | 1974789 Sudden Debt
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He! That's my gold! I gave to.... NOT TO YOU!

It kind of reminds me of the gift passings. You give away the gifts taht you don't like and after 3 years, the person who gave away the gift in the first place receives the same actual gift from somebody totally different :)

Tue, 12/13/2011 - 14:01 | 1974773 SheepDog-One
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Gee cant they just replace all those bank funds with freshly printed $7 billion from the central bank? So easy, even a caveman could run a world economy.

Tue, 12/13/2011 - 14:01 | 1974779 Sudden Debt
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Yes, every greek is taking his million and buys gold bars and burries them in their yard...

In the meanwhile, soldiers get food because their pay is already 2 months late, children get to go home from school early to go to the foodkitchens because at home they can't buy food anymore, millions have got their electricity cut off, fuel consumption is at a all time low in Greece.... . .. . ...
No happy christmass for the Greeks I guess....

Tue, 12/13/2011 - 14:02 | 1974781 JustObserving
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What are the Italians, Spaniards and French waiting for?  Bank runs will be an everyday occurrence in Europe.

Best time to be a burglar in Europe.

Tue, 12/13/2011 - 14:08 | 1974798 Dr. Horrible
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What does the chart look like for BofA?

Tue, 12/13/2011 - 14:10 | 1974801 Dick Darlington
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And the budget, oh dear... From the press release given by Greece MInistry of finance we get the following:

 

According to the preliminary data available for the execution of the State Budget for the eleven months January – November 2011, on a fiscal basis, the deficit amounts to 20,516 million Euros compared to the new target of 21,063 million Euros set in the voted Budget for 2012. During the same period in 2010, the State Budget deficit amounted to 19,516 million Euros.

Total State Budget revenues (Ordinary and Investment Budget) are 192 million Euros below the new target, but total expenditures (Ordinary and Public Investment Budget) compensated for this revenue shortfall by amounting to 739 million Euros lower than the new target.

Specifically, on an eleven-month basis (January – November 2011), net revenues of the ordinary budget amounted to 43,833 million Euros, declining by 3.1% in comparison to the respective period of 2010. The revenue shortfall can be mainly attributed to the deeper recession than that projected when the 2011 Budget was prepared (last quarter of 2010), lower withholding personal income tax receipts due to the more favourable tax treatment as a result of the new tax law and reduction in taxable income, and finally to the increased tax refunds due to the clearing of previous years’ obligations.

Ordinary budget expenditures increased by 3.650 million Euros or 3.0% in the eleven months of 2011 on a year-on-year basis. This is mainly due to a significant increase in interest expenditures of 2,638 million Euros or 20.4% thus far in 2011 relative to 2010.

State Budget primary expenditures (spending excluding interest) increased by 3.0% or 1,339 million Euros between January-November 2011 on a year-on-year basis, reflecting an increase in grants of 2.768 million Euros relative to 2010 for social insurance and health, which exceeded the reduction of 1,429 million Euros in other spending categories.

 

Read the rest of this sad story here...

http://www.minfin.gr/portal/en/resource/contentObject/id/6a518733-7fbf-4...

 

Tue, 12/13/2011 - 14:10 | 1974802 toadold
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I never thought I'd see the Swiss worried about too much money being deposited in their banks but now they are.

Tue, 12/13/2011 - 14:10 | 1974803 PulauHantu29
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Shanghai Prices Down 40% from Peak, Inventory Clogs Market

The LA Times reports China's housing bubble is losing air

Home prices and sales plunge after China's government intentionally slams on the brakes. Some recent buyers stage demonstrations, destroy real estate offices and demand refunds of up to 40%.

Home prices nationwide declined in November for the third straight month, according to an index of values in 100 major cities compiled by the China Index Academy, an independent real estate firm. Average prices in the Shanghai area are down about 40% from their peak in mid-2009, to about $176,000 for a 1,000-square-foot home.

Sales have plummeted. In Beijing, nearly two years' worth of inventory is clogging the market, and more than 1,000 real estate agencies have closed this year. Developers who once pre-sold housing projects within hours are growing desperate. A real estate company in the eastern city of Wenzhou is offering to throw in a new BMW with a home purchase.

Read more: http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2011/12/chinas-deserted-fake-disneyland.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+MishsGlobalEconomicTrendAnalysis+%28Mish%27s+Global+Economic+Trend+Analysis%29#ixzz1gRIzRiv3
Tue, 12/13/2011 - 14:11 | 1974809 My Taint
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Fry Now or Bee Piced Out ferever

Tue, 12/13/2011 - 14:14 | 1974821 Amused2Death
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Wait, 2 years staring into the abyss and 96% of the deposits are STILL held in Greek banks?  What are those holding the $170 billion thinking?

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