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Greek Parliamentary Garage On Fire And Other Dramatic Footage From Today's Athens Riots

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Today's deadly protests in Athens, in which one Greek has died, have been the most violent of the year so far. For footage of the Parliament's garage building as well as numerous dramatic photos of the violents riot, which is continuing over night, see attached.

This is what a fire in a parliamentary garage looks like:

And for everything else there is eglimatikotita.gr


 

 

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Thu, 10/20/2011 - 13:29 | Link to Comment GeneMarchbanks
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Whatever happened to Greece?

Ah, yes... now it all seems to make sense, PEOPLES LIVES ARE AT STAKE.

The important thing is Merkel and Sarkozy are unharmed...

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 13:29 | Link to Comment camaro68ss
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Bike helmets.... ill have to remember that next time i riot.....

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 13:31 | Link to Comment Clorox Cowboy
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Along with massive tree limbs to hold up your tiny flag.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 13:38 | Link to Comment Dr. Richard Head
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Don't forget your fire extinguishers.  Paint filled balloons would go a long way too. 

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 13:47 | Link to Comment eureka
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Yeah i this is a real tutorial for TEA PARTY PEOPLE - "What to do if you hate paying taxes"

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 13:55 | Link to Comment Richard Head
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You must be one of the freeloaders that pays ZERO federal income tax.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 14:03 | Link to Comment bruinjoe93
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I pay a LOT of taxes.  I'm lucky to take home 50% of my pay check unlike Mr. Buffet.  I just don't like the way my government is spending its tax receipts.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 14:11 | Link to Comment Arius
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just for the record ... the US government doesnt need your stinky tofu .... in the words of Big Ben it can print as much as it wants at basically no cost .... ask Timothy if you have any doubts about taxes ...

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 14:25 | Link to Comment Dr. Richard Head
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I messed up my taxes on Turbo Tax and all I got was this lousy Treasury Cabinet position.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 15:17 | Link to Comment Cynical Sidney
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could someone narrate these pictures for us? what are the different fractions in the protest? who's behind the red flags black flags J.A.M flags? and why are they trying to bash each others head in with wooden rods and steel pipes?

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 17:11 | Link to Comment o_rly
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++++++++I was there today++++++++

The group with Red Flags were communists, KKE, more accurately they are Stalinists. They were blocking parliament earlier today as they did the previous day. They basically don't want the anarchists attacking the police because they believe that the anarchists provoke the police to gas the crowd, thus dispersing the peaceful protests.

The stalinists are a weird bunch though. They never join the normal protests, but they were there yesterday for the first time in a while, but left early. They usually have their own meeting place outside of Syntagma Square. They kind of do their own thing in a way. However, PAME, the militant workers' union, an organization under the umbrella of KKE, was also their clashing with the anarchists. It was a huge battle and to be honest, nobody was really expecting it.

Let me tell you, I have never seen so much violence in my life. The last two days have been a blood soaked gasoline bomb horror show. These photos and the video coming out of there don't really do credence to the level of violence coming out of these protest. Running street battles were fought all down the alleyways off Syntagma, with anarchists hurling molotov cocktails at riot police. I was at Monsarraki train station, about half a mile from Syntagma when DIAS motorcycle cops tried to break the anarchist blocks up, the anarchists responded with rounds of molotovs. I saw plenty of people and cops on fire today.

As for me? I also almost caught on fire from a molotov an anarchist threw at a communist. I just happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time.

The violence here is really out of control, and for all that talk of "It's coming to a city near you," when people from the U.S. talk about the Greek riots, I always laugh. Nah, the U.S. does not have the same kind of factionalism, police hatred, or history of street protest. I absolutely laugh at the OWS protests with the police acting like this group of peaceniks is a threat to the "system." Those cops wouldn't last two seconds in Greece. Real violence happens here, not theatrical skits or superhero costume bullshit.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 17:55 | Link to Comment winterswimmer
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@o_rly

On the whole I agree.

Many Greek people don't seem to understand the importance of NOT cultivating division and hatred among ourselves.I support neither side in today's events, but here is a video showing the start of the battle. It shows the way ordinary people were firmly prevented from passing through KKE / PAME lines, to approach the parliament closer. If this happens again and again, it means stifling all  resistance against the bankster-licking regime.

Meanwhile, it's worth noting that KKE / PAME allowed all the members of parliament to pass through their lines unscathed, effectively protecting them, while not allowing anyone else to pass through.

(Argentina's ex-premier Menem would also be greatful to this kind of attitude, I guess):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Td1nOjqm3L4

 

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 21:52 | Link to Comment o_rly
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I'm not really taking a side, but I don't think that KKE or PAME let all the members of parliament pass through their lines, although some did from what I saw. In the end, I'm really not sure what happened or why these groups did what they did. I'm sure the rumor-mill will spin but in the end, it will just be some speculation.

I do think it's funny how the other communist group, EEK, ended up supporting the anarchists and attacking the police who were trying to close in on them from the other side of Syntagma. Even the commies can't get along or pick a side.

In the end, the real enemy is in parliament, and this factional fighting always happens on the Left. The fighting today between people was a symptom of a crisis that has gone out of control.

Fri, 10/21/2011 - 04:28 | Link to Comment winterswimmer
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The KKE's leader, Ms. Papariga, stated clearly that members of parliament would certainly be allowed to pass through.

This is a fact, because if any member of parliament had been stopped, this would become frontpage news in Greece.

Ah well, (as a result) 154 zombie-MPs voted yesterday in favour of an irrational law that will impoverish Greeks even more, while also debilitating the _real_ economy.

 

Fri, 10/21/2011 - 06:24 | Link to Comment o_rly
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I didn't know that, fuck those bastards then.

Sat, 10/22/2011 - 21:13 | Link to Comment AldousHuxley
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Greece invented the Trojan Horse. What did the Germans expect?

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 18:00 | Link to Comment illyia
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THX 4 UPDATE

STAY SAFE

DROP IN AGAIN

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 18:08 | Link to Comment Spigot
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If the Greek police would shoot the fire bomb throwing anarchists, I believe you would see a dramatic decline is anarchist fire bombing.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 19:08 | Link to Comment winterswimmer
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@Spigot

hmmm....

You could be right, as a matter of fact.

But only in the sense that Athens will be burned, after this, most probably. So, if it's already burning, everywhere, there will be no more need for fire bombing! :-)

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 20:16 | Link to Comment Vampyroteuthis ...
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It looks like a bunch of commie red flags to me. Yes, the gov't is screwing you. Supporting a discredited system wins no one though.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 14:51 | Link to Comment Abitdodgie
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If you are still paying taxes ,then how is that 70,000 people you have helped kill in Libya, or the one how they cut the breasts of the wimen they rape so then when they have the kid they can watch it starve to death , way to go fucker, you are part of the problem. I konw what you will say " but i have to pay taxes it comes strate out of my pay check , then quit.

Fri, 10/21/2011 - 01:18 | Link to Comment RSVPilot
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have you stoped paying taxes. Has anyone on here made up thier mind to stop feeding the beast? Does the mere thought strike fear in you? anyone?

Fri, 10/21/2011 - 00:40 | Link to Comment MobBarley
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Yes but I commited mass murder to protect your freedoms to obtain this stipend.

Is that ok with you?

 

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 14:06 | Link to Comment SWRichmond
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Whoever the red flag people are (communists?) they are better armed and equipped, and apparently more willing to be violent, than the rest.  No surprise there.  This is why the Tea Party is now being ignored: too law-abiding.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 14:20 | Link to Comment Tramp Stamper
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Typical divide and conquer technique.  Fight each other not the real problem.  Probably paid people to create violence amongst themselves rather than unite together against the govt

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 14:37 | Link to Comment redcorona
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You're probably right.  The internationalist Reds have always been on the side of international capital.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqAHBdoITis&

Sun, 10/23/2011 - 14:12 | Link to Comment Phil Free
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"This video has been removed by the user."

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 16:02 | Link to Comment Reptil
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Yes, IMO hired goons.
And very probably not communists. Though we can't be sure, now, can we.
Red flags are attached to a stick, and all the same size. No other communist flags or slogans. Neh..

Sat, 10/22/2011 - 21:38 | Link to Comment AldousHuxley
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yes because communists caused world FINANCIAL diaster by not doing the due diligence required for loans?

bunch of communists at these banks right?

 

communism is a symtom of inequality. Well fed peasants have no need for regime change or riots. Do you see corporate executives rioting on the streets because their bonuses aren't enough?

In america, they do it with "dancing of the stars" or some other reality show so peasants can escape their harsh realities of meaningless wage slavery.

 

Unfortunately, the easy solution politicians pull here would be wars. Wars to give these folks something to do.

 

 

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 16:00 | Link to Comment traderjoe
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Taxes are obsolete for revenues.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 18:34 | Link to Comment ZackAttack
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By their logic, it's their own fault for not moving to a state or country with lower taxes.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 14:01 | Link to Comment LFMayor
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those make better clubs guy.  Don't go taking some pansy ass dowel rod to a street protest.  Get yourself a closet stick.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 18:36 | Link to Comment ZackAttack
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Aluminum baseball bats FTW. Light, easy to carry and wield, body armor isn't worth much of a damn against it.

These guys need to take up our former national pastime.

Sat, 10/22/2011 - 21:45 | Link to Comment AldousHuxley
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it is hard to swing in a crowd.

 

what they need is a dogcrap bazooka. Shoot that directly at banksters faces.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 13:35 | Link to Comment PAPA ROACH
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yeah, helmets and more importantly, gas masks to thwart the tear gas! I will start selling gas masks now on every corner, like the chinese ladys in NYC that pop out from under rocks when a raindrop falls.

 

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 13:43 | Link to Comment NotApplicable
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Don't forget hockey sticks. They are a great multi-purpose riot tool.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 16:33 | Link to Comment Big Slick
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Re Hockey stick use in a riot... For those thinking that you are joking, it was amazing seeing Canadian rioters (no joke) using hockey sticks to shoot tear-gas cannisters back at police during G10 a few years ago.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 14:05 | Link to Comment Temporalist
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Batteries, Pirated DVDs, Umbrellas and Gas Masks.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 13:36 | Link to Comment Quixotic_Not
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I'm sure Tyler et al. will be happy when this insanity reaches the USofA...

God help us all!

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 13:43 | Link to Comment junkyardjack
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Americans are too overweight to riot, their hearts couldn't handle it.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 13:52 | Link to Comment SemperFord
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I am going to be hated for this but...Lazy Americans can just hire some illegals to protest for them, "ESPN has excellent coverage"

 

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 16:12 | Link to Comment MachoMan
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Juding by the pictures, it looks a whole lot like a renaissance fair... which some americans already participate in...  kinda like that movie Role Models

I SHALL DUEL YOU SIR FORD WITH MY RAGGEDY TREE BRANCH OF FREE LUNCH +4.  Please hold your attack until my company has had chance to waive the banner of red.  I shall wear my flamed helmet of 100 lb. virgin road muscle into our battle, SO BE ON YOUR TOES!  I must warn you, I have recently learned to grow a beard in contravention of my parents' wishes, so be forewarned I am very capable! 

Winner shall have to work one hour less for one hour more pay for life.  In the event either man is knocked out by flaming ball of heaven storm, then the match shall end in a draw.  

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 13:59 | Link to Comment Quixotic_Not
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You think that "Americans" are the ones that founded, funded and guide this new movement aka OWS?!?

OWS-NY is a couple of blocks from where I work (no, not in financial mafia) and I was for a short time a member of it...when I thought there might be hope to stopthe tyrants with the RULE OF LAW...

I can't speak about the other locations across the nation (and I have no interest/affiliation with Europe et al.), but what I see happening at OWS-NY is nightmarish!

If you care about the AMERICAN experiment, you should be aware that there are -0- AMERICANS @ OWS-NY/NJ...

Moreover, the "leaders" of the kamp are dyed-in-the-wool SOCIALIST agitators, every one is Marxist brain-washed and a Hegelian dialectic practitioner - EVERY ONE OF THEM!

Have you read the book Animal Farm?  If not I suggest you do it asap if you want to understand where this is headed...

The people that started this have NO idea the monster THEY'VE created, it is truly time that the adults pay attention before the children burn the house down!

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 14:00 | Link to Comment mjk0259
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BS. Two of my kids are there and they are Americans. Likewise their friends, also there.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 14:17 | Link to Comment Quixotic_Not
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Sorry, perhaps you think Communist =  American, it does not!

AMERICA was founded on the RULE of LAW, INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY, and PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS.

The only thing I could get the OWS-NY comrades and apparatchiks to agree with me on was the INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY part, and even then they craved for the ability take it away from others!

Good luck with the Free Shit Army buckeroo, they'll be eating you next...

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 14:19 | Link to Comment mjk0259
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Existing ruling class is already eating me.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 14:24 | Link to Comment mjk0259
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Under Communism, a small self-appointed elite decides what is right and suppresses dissenters by labeling them 'Trotskyites', etc. Same thing you are doing. America is founded on free speech, right of public assembly - no exclusion for Communists, atheists, vegetarians, environmentalists, etc. In theory, anyway. In reality, left wing and unions have traditionally been suppressed most of the time along with whoever else the present ruling class feels threatens their position without regard to the Constitution, Bill of Rights, or anything else.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 14:53 | Link to Comment Hephasteus
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That's not how it works. You take an ungroupable group which within it's subset will contain a myriad of points and agendas. It's nearly impossible to make it an all inclusive set but it can usually contain enough data points to be distortable. You then contain those datasets within the entire group and label them. You not only set up an attack point to work on. You cause group identification problems because the group is forced to come to grips with elements within it that it thinks are why it's being included.

You essentially take on the roll of cook or chef and turn an entire buffet into just a shit sandwich through the magic of element distortion. Driving those elements that are not part of the shit sandwich recipe out leaving you with a shit sandwich which is easily destroyed.

You best fear label makers. They know how mess things up.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 23:58 | Link to Comment MobBarley
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You just gave me the reprehensible notion that I could

relabel all the BEEF in the supermarket FECES , discount it

heavily, and be the only purchaser.

 

Hey! That just might work.

 

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 14:25 | Link to Comment mjk0259
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They are protesting that the RULE oF LAW has not been applied to Wall St. No rational person could disagree with that. Should be thousands in jail under RICO, etc already.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 14:51 | Link to Comment Quixotic_Not
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Liberal Alec Baldwin: I Think Capitalism is Worthwhile

While mingling with protestors at the Occupy Wall Street demonstration in lower Manhattan, actor and outspoken liberal Alec Baldwin explained the importance to consumers of entrepreneur Steve Jobs and added, "I think capitalism is worthwhile."

http://cnsnews.com/blog/michael-w-chapman/liberal-alec-baldwin-i-think-c...

Listen, even a total moron like Baldwin is trying to reign in the aparachiks...I guess you're completely dense; a liar; and/or more LEFT than that Hollyweird POS!  lol

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 14:57 | Link to Comment Hephasteus
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Ya but he's not doing on Hulu which is really cbs, fox news, Walt Disney for broadcating fees. So he's essentially doing his job for nothing. Which makes him a debt slave

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbLtLUwMTxg

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 16:13 | Link to Comment Reptil
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You're sooooo full of it.
A few angry and confused americans, directed by government stooges to turn this "awakening" in yet another toothless, ridiculous "fad". Again the obsolete "divide and conquer" left vs. right nonsense. It deserves more.

These #occupy protests are a reaction on a total failure of a regime (financial) elite (before you start moping, it takes quite a lot of money to enter "politics"), and a failing consumer society model. (duh what a surprise!)
the Rule of Law was broken. And not by any protesters.

If you REALLY look at the issue at hand, it's these demonstrators who are rooting for a system of capitalism, protected by Rule of Law, and you're arguing for a continuation, even expansion of the corporatist state model. Go read up on Mussolini if you think I'm joking.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 14:46 | Link to Comment AnAnonymous
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AMERICA was founded on the RULE of LAW, INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY, and PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS.

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If the US was founded on the rule of law, how do you explainthe US denied the ancestral rightto their land to the indians, as acknowledged by the CJ?

Individual liberty, how do you explain slavery?

Private property rights, how do you explain indian land theft?

No. The US has not changed one bit, it was built on selective application of the law, slavery and theft.

End the fabled past addiction.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 14:54 | Link to Comment Quixotic_Not
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OWS-NY I presume?

Out with the old, in with the new?

What will be the new name of the former USofA?

United Nations of the Planet, is that the one you're thinking of?

Getting ready for a bit of the old in & out, are we?

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 15:10 | Link to Comment AnAnonymous
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No answer when confronted to the exposure of fabled past.

Now, fabled future.

The US has no world plan other than a US world order.

It does not include a world government as the US is in the extortion business and do not want people to be put out of its extortion reach.

This mean that the US is going to strive to divide and annihilate attempts of the rest of the world to organize.

The US would want a myriad of small and weak governments in the rest of the world over a world government anyday.

Ah, by the way, typically US citizen to think that one has to be of a group to tell facts.

Funny when I told facts about OWS... Now I am a OWS member.

Funny US citizens. The group is all for them. Individuality can not exist in a US driven world.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 15:17 | Link to Comment Quixotic_Not
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I could explain it to you, but I couldn't understand it for you...thus I will not waste my time on a zerosum game:

"Associate yourself with men of good quality if you esteem your own reputation for 'tis better to be alone than in bad company...Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." ~ George Washington

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen." ~ Samuel Adams

"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined." ~ Patrick Henry

P.S.  My DNA also includes American Indian and African Slave, along with a European mix...

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 16:24 | Link to Comment Use of Weapons
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And yet your Avatar is pure palaeolithic anarcho-primitivist.

 

Irony, are you genetically immune or did you happen to forget the movie's ending?

 

 

Hint: It is called 'hard reset', aka, back to pre-electricity times. It is option Deus Ex #3 in the great game playbook, and if we don't get our shit together, looking more attractive to some who prefer 'the simple life'1 You've made your choice, it would seem, but stop trying to lecture the rest of us on politics, which you know diddly fucking squat about.

  • 1. You don't even have to take this literally - there's plenty of options for small scale stagnating tech operating out there. Might want to look into neo-Victorianism & the Cameron 'big society'. Doff your cap squire, and make haste with my paper before you get Mrs Crabapple to draw my bath. Heck... full employment though!
Thu, 10/20/2011 - 19:30 | Link to Comment Quixotic_Not
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And yet your Avatar is pure palaeolithic anarcho-primitivist.

Dood, like it's a movie and that's the subconscient self-image for my fight club dream life - You know, that place where everyone's all bad ass and shit like that, and OWS v. Tea Party is like a real phenom...lol

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 19:58 | Link to Comment Use of Weapons
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Hmm.. and you doubt that the drive I mentioned towards a semi-stagnant technological society isn't? "Fight club dream" - heck boy, it isn't a dream, you can get some self respect from other males easily enough, and you can get hit easily enough. Get out of your fucking basement.

Well done, you just managed to get out of my 'want to fight' territory into 'why doesn't this fuckwit go back to his Xbox and quit wasting my time' territory. Delete your Avatar, you fucking pussy, I'd have had respect for you if you'd actually been for a global reset - instead, you're a hack, a know-nothing sheep who sucks on the teat of artifical rebellion through movies for some kind of identity.

 

Fuck off. Killing yourself will help humanity, or at the very least, cull the sheep.

 

If you want to engage in your 'fight club dream', then we're here. Just cut the crap, and you'll get an education.

 

p.s. Grow the fuck up and get a decent browser that spell checks for you if you can't spell. FFS, even Firefox highlights in red your spelling mistakes. Have some fucking self respect already - if you want to sound like a retard, then quote Rand. Otherwise, it just suggests low IQ.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 20:48 | Link to Comment Bolweevil
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Well stated.

Fri, 10/21/2011 - 00:05 | Link to Comment MobBarley
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They call it the American Dream

because you'd have to be sleeping to beleive it.

 

America was founded on blood, brutality and lies,

just like Israel. That's why they called it the New

Promised Land as evidenced by manifest destiny.

The ability of monkeys to use language is oft appaling

to humans.

 

Sat, 10/22/2011 - 21:50 | Link to Comment AldousHuxley
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For few idiots like Paris Hilton, American Dream is a dream come true.

 

You can be a complete attention whore, but still have more money than 1000s of educate professionals.

 

Meritocracy my ass...

Fri, 10/21/2011 - 23:10 | Link to Comment saiybat
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The coming technological society may not be all may not be all birds and bees and more akin to hydraulic ass rape especially with the heavy emphasis on surveillance and paramilitary forces. I'm sure you know this. In that sort of situation a global reset would be preferable and the lesser evil but there would be no opportunity to do so in reality. Snake made the right choice and there's wisdom in that message but it's only a movie.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 15:40 | Link to Comment disabledvet
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You forgot to add Show Business Kids. They're very important tapers and pillagers as well.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 14:01 | Link to Comment mjk0259
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Animal Farm is already here. The pigs are Wall St, etc.

Sat, 10/22/2011 - 21:54 | Link to Comment AldousHuxley
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ALL ANIMALS ARE EQUAL


BUT SOME ANIMALS ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS.

 

The creatures outside looked from democrats to republicans, and from republicans to democrats, and from democrats to republicans again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.

 

Somehow it seemed as though the farm had grown richer without making the animals themselves any richer — except, of course, for the pigs and the dogs.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 14:10 | Link to Comment Temporalist
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The American Experiment allows for opinions and philosophies of all participants.

 

You are part of the problem if you don't think it's "American" to exercise one's right to free speech and public protest.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 14:53 | Link to Comment Quixotic_Not
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You are part of the problem if you don't think it's "American" to exercise one's right to free speech and public protest.

I FULLY support the precepts included within the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution, including the Bill of Rights!

The 10 planks of Marx's communist manifesto have ZERO -0- legal authority under the NATURAL LAW established by the Sons of Liberty

And obviously MARXISM is the system closest to the OWS-NY politik, have you not ready their latest demands?

Moreover, neither does NATURAL LAW support the FASCIST tyranny of the bankster/politeer system of EMERGENCY POWERS, the legal fiction that has been raping, pilaging, plundering and MURDERING the planet since the last great depression!

The state of nature has a law of nature to govern it, which obliges every one: and reason, which is that law, teaches all mankind, who will but consult it, that being all equal and independent, no one ought to harm another in his life, health, liberty, or possessions ~ John Locke 1690

Hell, even the so-called enlightened don't get it...

Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any further obedience. ~ John Locke 1690

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 15:36 | Link to Comment Rynak
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Dude, you kinda need to make a decision here, if you want to stay consistent with throwing around cheesy keywords......

If you want to use your enemy keywords (i.e. communism, socialism, fascism, etc) by "how they sucked in the past and did not live up to their own premises".... then to stay consistent, you also need to use the terms capitalism and individualism by "how it sucked, and failed to live up to its own premises". Too hard to understand? Okay, i'll simplify: You wanna use enemy terms how they in practice worked out under regimes who claimed to support them.... then for consistency sake also do the same for your own favorite terms.

On the other hand, if you want to use your own "friendly" terms, by their own premises - so, how IN THEORY they should work - as opposed to how what nowadays is called like them is implemented..... so, to rephrase, if you want to use your fav terms by their IDEAL....... then for consistency sake, you also oughta do the same for your enemy terms.

But NOT: "For my fav maximes, standard A applies, but for my enemy maximes, standard B applies".

 

So, here's your choice:

Option 1: Use ALL ideological terms, your fav ones, as well as enemy ones.... by how in the past supposed implementations of them have worked out..... which unfortunatelly is: Crappy for every single one of them.

Option 2: Use ALL ideological terms, by how according to their premises, they SHOULD work.... your fav ones, as well as your enemy ones. Unfortunatelly however, the result then is, that NONE of those maximes have ever been implemented in a way that satisfied their own premises and goals.... neither your fav ones, nor your enemy ones.

Option 3: Start to think, and notice that goals and wishes are all nice and well.... but just by WANTING to achieve something, it doesn't mean that it automatically becomes reality. So, it depends not just on the "what one wants", but also on the "how to get there".

The bad news with this however is: Then, you cannot just slack off with discussing desired outcomes.... but to actually come up with a working implementation! And "oh well, just axe this and that, and then everything will magically someway perhaps probably exactly result in the achieval of my goals".... thats not an implementation.... its not even a model...... it is vague smalltalk at best, and "retard beer politics" at worst.

Fri, 10/21/2011 - 00:07 | Link to Comment MobBarley
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Is this the day Snake becomes an Anarchist?

 

 

Fri, 10/21/2011 - 23:31 | Link to Comment Rynak
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Not really: Anarchism as defined by their proponents: Order in the absense of hierachy.

I do not reject hierachy, nor do i advocate it - in fact, my favorite model described elsewhere, lets the population decide ARBITRARILY about hierachy, and the style of governemnt - all my currently favoured model pushes (which may change as i gain experience) is that the current wishes of the majority of population should decide about everything - including the style of governance and hierachy..... so really, my current stance is beyond ideology - right now, i'm concerned about how to decide between ideologies and systems at all, based on the wishes of the pupulation (so, i don't even advocate a specific form of gov, egoconimcs.... instead, for now, i care about just how to make peple get what they want, and face the consequences) (so, arrogantly phrased, a meta-model of governance and economics).

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 14:27 | Link to Comment mjk0259
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I doubt you could find 3 that knew what Hegelian dialectics is. I tried to read a couple of books on it myself and I still don't know.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 14:27 | Link to Comment mjk0259
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I doubt you could find 3 that knew what Hegelian dialectics is. I tried to read a couple of books on it myself and I still don't know.

Fri, 10/21/2011 - 00:09 | Link to Comment MobBarley
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Problem Reaction Solution

 

Do not try to read.

 

Read.

 

*cracks ruler across knuckles*

 

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 16:47 | Link to Comment jayman21
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I live a block away and talk to the OWS folks every few days.  They are Americans.  WTF, do you work for Faux News? 

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 14:00 | Link to Comment MolotovCockhead
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This is only a foreplay. The real grand finale will be held some where in an American city.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 14:32 | Link to Comment Quixotic_Not
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I'm sure Tyler et al. will be happy when this insanity reaches the USofA...

God help us all!

Looks like the truth stings!

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 16:27 | Link to Comment Use of Weapons
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No, we all think you're a total idiot.

 

Mr Tyler will clearly be doing this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BT00WU7Iss

 

 

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 13:46 | Link to Comment CrimsonAvenger
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Forget bike helmets - get yourself one of those old-school Egyptian bread helmets.

http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/2ic6/

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 13:51 | Link to Comment lemonobrien
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you can eat it after the riot.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 14:11 | Link to Comment Temporalist
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Bloody dipping sauce too...mmm.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 14:23 | Link to Comment krispkritter
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Yeah, but if you get hit by a Molotov you're toast... ;)

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 17:57 | Link to Comment Canaduh
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<<< This bread helmet?? Been wearing it proudly for months.

 

 

 

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 14:29 | Link to Comment krispkritter
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Note the guy covered in red paint(I think it's paint) has a homemade cup. Don't ever leave home without the cup!

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 14:45 | Link to Comment Mugatu
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I'm going long gas mask manufacturers.  Looks like a Darth Vadar convention!

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 13:38 | Link to Comment GeneMarchbanks
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Forgot add:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T2F7YkRKN4

That's right bitchez... DOOM!!!!!!!!!

it's the lyrics that kill

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 13:37 | Link to Comment doomz78
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what a mess.  Why the hell would you be fighting each other???  Is this what chaos looks like?  How will this solve the austerity issues?  Ive never seen an austerity protest get fixed by smacking your neighbour in the face with a bamboo hardwood pole. 

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 13:41 | Link to Comment fourchan
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they are just rehersing a play called "the euro".

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 14:07 | Link to Comment Last_2_Sense
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I can't tell who is fighting whom?? Except for a couple pictures with cops, it mainly looks like regular people fighting regular people. 

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 13:49 | Link to Comment X.inf.capt
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THE ROOF...

THE ROOF...

THE ROOF IS ON FIRE......

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 14:17 | Link to Comment MarkS
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This isn't Merkel and Sarkozy's fault.  The Greeks have absolutely no one to blame but themselves...no one.  Ok, maybe Goldman Sachs fault too for helping them cheat to get in in the first place...

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 14:58 | Link to Comment jdelano
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Mr. Vix refuses to be subdued.  I'm gonna call a repeat of yesterday--another bomb to be dropped on the market this afternoon.  Somebody knows something. 

 

UPDATE: wow.  jinxed it pretty good there.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 13:27 | Link to Comment Nedly66
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um why are they fighting each other? I thought you were supposed to overthrow the government first, then fight amongst yourselves for power?

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 13:36 | Link to Comment flacon
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Looks like the Marxist Communist "reds" hate everybody. 

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 13:37 | Link to Comment Quixotic_Not
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Reds v. Whites

Same shit, different century...

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 13:45 | Link to Comment William Murderface
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These pics are from the finals of the national soccer tournament.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 13:53 | Link to Comment Non-Zero
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Possibly one side is just there to cause trouble.

From the pictures, I'd say the guys with hoods.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 14:26 | Link to Comment Nothing To See Here
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In Germany and Italy, fascists and socialists were fighting each other for the same voters before Mussolini and Hitler took complete power. They were all collectivists/statists, but had some differences over a few points.

In this Greek instance, I wonder wether this is similar or if this is more like Libya, with a faction defending the government.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 13:30 | Link to Comment ??
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Greece in America

Tennessee Becomes First State To Fight Terrorism Statewide Deploys TSA VIPR on Interestates

http://www.newschannel5.com/story/15725035/officials-claim-tennessee-bec...

 

You're probably used to seeing TSA's signature blue uniforms at the airport, but now agents are hitting the interstates to fight terrorism with Visible Intermodal Prevention and Response (VIPR).

"Where is a terrorist more apt to be found? Not these days on an airplane more likely on the interstate," said Tennessee Department of Safety & Homeland Security Commissioner Bill Gibbons.

Tuesday Tennessee was first to deploy VIPR simultaneously at five weigh stations and two bus stations across the state.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 13:31 | Link to Comment PaperBear
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Yep, the only thing is the CIA funds these terrorists.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 13:41 | Link to Comment X.inf.capt
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uh, which terrorists...

on which side....

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 13:43 | Link to Comment NotApplicable
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Yes.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 13:48 | Link to Comment Quixotic_Not
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The emails to and from the official OWS organisers... OWS.org and september17@googlegroups.com, globalrevolutionmedia, and other organisers, to and from some big names in the media is interesting........ You can also search the emails yourself..... http://owsmail.dc406.com/

I've been reading the emails, and doing searches for different words and terms..... Chilling stuff.

http://tickerforum.org/akcs-www?singlepost=2751913

@1lumpor2:

The emails are fascinating, if accurate.

Bill Black. Tyler Durden. And Karl (Denninger)...

Again, I'm all for an end of crony capitalism, but we can't just look at banks. We have to look at all the institutionalized fraud that has occurred, and the fact that Taibbi, Ratigan, and others from the left ignoring Solyndra is simply a bridge too far for me to get involved until the left gets behind taking down crony capitalism on "green" energy projects as well.

http://tickerforum.org/akcs-www?singlepost=2752011

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 13:34 | Link to Comment Clorox Cowboy
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"Good evening Mrs. Potential Terrorist Suspect.  I'm calling to raise money for the Tennessee VIPRs.  We can count on your full support and a donation, right?"

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 14:00 | Link to Comment XitSam
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Good citizen, if you don't show extreme support for VIPR then you must be a terrorist and an Enemy of the State! 

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 13:42 | Link to Comment fourchan
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they are just rousting prople to confiscate cash and recive bribes.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 13:48 | Link to Comment Gringo Viejo
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Fourth Reich, comin' down the pike. Enjoy the The Bill Of Rights while you still can.

Sun, 10/23/2011 - 14:41 | Link to Comment Phil Free
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The Bill of Rights -- void where prohibited by law.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 13:55 | Link to Comment chubbar
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Get the population acclimated to traffic stops, personal searches, wire tapping and essentially all loss of privacy or personal freedoms. How the fuck do the people doing these things face themselves in the mirror? Is the almighty paycheck that god damn important that it corrupts every cell of every person in  the TSA/DHS? Have none of these goons read the constitution or thought about where this is all headed? Is there not a judge in american willing to stand up for the bill of rights or the constitution? I hope the children of these idiots thank them someday for their shortsightedness and/or corruption.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 14:09 | Link to Comment Are you kidding
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I guess they really do think they're doing Gods work?

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 15:37 | Link to Comment MsCreant
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It's way worse than that. I was reading a comments section in a TN paper and they were saying things like "I'm worried about rail traffic too, they need to do this for trains." No one was questioning the creepyness of this project AT ALL. THEY WANT MORE!!!!!

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 13:28 | Link to Comment FinHits
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"It is better to burn out than to fade away"

- Iggy Popp

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 15:21 | Link to Comment IAmNotMark
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Actually, it was Neil Young.

 

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 15:26 | Link to Comment Quixotic_Not
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I thought it was this guy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bOKsOveYD0

I think I saw him at OWS-NY Tuesday around 3AM...

Fri, 10/21/2011 - 01:28 | Link to Comment FinHits
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Ahh, I stand corrected, crash and burn. Kudos to Neil.  

I like the Highlander (?) clip, slurp.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 15:39 | Link to Comment MsCreant
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Neil Young. Rust never sleeps.

Out of the blue and into the black. You paid for this and they give you that.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 18:03 | Link to Comment Canaduh
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The Neil Young from CSNY?

http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr93.html

Nice guy.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 13:28 | Link to Comment d00daa
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can someone explain how the fuck RUT just erased -2.5% in 15 FUCKING MINUTES PLEASE???

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 13:31 | Link to Comment GeneMarchbanks
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PPT. Yeah, so now you know, welcome to the dark side.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 13:42 | Link to Comment d00daa
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yeah that was rhetorical, lol.  they are so fucking brazen about it now.  that said, just a better spot to get short from.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 13:45 | Link to Comment NotApplicable
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The truly shocking part is that it took that long.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 13:31 | Link to Comment qussl3
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Merkel popped a fart and it was good.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 13:29 | Link to Comment Clorox Cowboy
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I missed the part about Black vs Red...can somebody fill me in?

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 13:33 | Link to Comment redpill
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Red - the blood of angry men!
Black - the dark of ages past!
Red - a world about to dawn!
Black - the night that ends at last!

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 13:37 | Link to Comment Sgt. Oddball
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The group of protestors in the red where trying to counter the government funded Black Bloc anarchists that are there to promote violence in order to give the police a reason to start busting heads.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 13:39 | Link to Comment Clorox Cowboy
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So it's not true that the red guys hate freedom and kill puppies for fun??  Damn you, G-Pap...you fooled me again!

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 13:57 | Link to Comment sdmjake
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I can't make heads or tails of all these dang groups over there but i'm trying... I believe the red flag is the PAME (commie/labor -usually peaceful), i think the orange flag is GSEE (main private sector union) but I don't know what the black shirts represent. Maybe just pissed off folks.

When churches, schools, public transportation, hospitals, etc start shutting down and you have fuel/pharmacuetical/etc shortages as a result of 'austerity'... the shit gets violent from every kinda direction. Hope people don't figure out that our FRN toilet paper ain't worth anything too soon(because you are seeing the primer for what'll happen). Watching these images make me realize I still have some planning efforts to complete...

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 14:09 | Link to Comment Conax
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Me too. I gotta get an ax handle for a flag pole.. beautiful idea.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 13:30 | Link to Comment Taterboy
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Leftys beating other Leftys. It's like a self cleaning oven.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 13:32 | Link to Comment Deadpool
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remind me of the Republic adage: "Let the Democrats have their way, gay marriage and abortion; in two generations they'll be extinct".

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 14:14 | Link to Comment Dr. Acula
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That's cute, but patently absurd. Gay marriages and abortions have occurred since time immemorial. Where's the extinction?

"Induced abortion has long history, and can be traced back to civilizations as varied as China under Shennong (c. 2700 BCE), Ancient Egypt with its Ebers Papyrus (c. 1550 BCE), and the Roman Empire in the time of Juvenal (c. 200 CE)" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion#History

"Various types of same-sex marriages have existed,[48] ranging from informal, unsanctioned relationships to highly ritualized unions.[49]...In the southern Chinese province of Fujian, through the Ming dynasty period, females would bind themselves in contracts to younger females in elaborate ceremonies.[50] Males also entered similar arrangements. This type of arrangement was also similar in ancient European history" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_marriage#Ancient

 

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 13:33 | Link to Comment qussl3
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More likely black ops trying to instigate a false flag.

Isnt it providence the Eugendfor are in town?

 

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 14:05 | Link to Comment NotApplicable
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There was a picture the other day showing the riot police and some protesters they were arresting had matching boots.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 13:51 | Link to Comment eureka
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YOU DON'T GET IT - WHO RIGGED GREECE?  WALL STREET DID!

S) - IN CASE YOU AREN'T SURE THE TEA PARTY ARE MORONS:

Brian Hickey, Independence Tea Party: "The idea that Wall Street is the root of all evil is an anathema to us."

Clearly, Tea Party people don't read or understand Tyler's info & analysis of Wall Street.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 13:30 | Link to Comment dasein211
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When this shit breaks expect to see tons of swans flying out bank offices. The market has just about had it with the willy nilly bullshit. The people have had it. This is how you build chaos. Take notes class.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 13:30 | Link to Comment Undecided
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One hedge fund manager that gets it..

 

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/funds-and-etfs/funds/trident-fund-manager-goes-on-the-defence/article2206928/

Our view is that the house is burning. We are not going to go near it.”

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 13:30 | Link to Comment wombats
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Maybe Occupy Wall Street can take some lessons from this.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 13:31 | Link to Comment Seasmoke
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who is winning.........actually, who is fighting who ?

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 13:32 | Link to Comment bnbdnb
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How come so many rioters wear nikes, adidas, and pumas?

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 13:35 | Link to Comment MonsterZero
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To match their designer jeans of course.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 13:38 | Link to Comment NotApplicable
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Because they're not the Flintstones?

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 13:41 | Link to Comment flacon
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In Greece it's "Nkie", "abidas", and "Pumma".

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 13:53 | Link to Comment Cosmicserpent
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Nike IS the Greek Goddess of victory.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 15:25 | Link to Comment IAmNotMark
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They tried sandals, slippers, and high heels but they couldn't run as fast. 

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 13:33 | Link to Comment oceanview76
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Not the kind of Greek on Greek action I'm used to seeing in pictures... but thanks for sharing.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 15:45 | Link to Comment MsCreant
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Bunga Bunga is Italy these days.

Edit: I guess, really, GS had an anal rape orgy with both so never mind.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 13:33 | Link to Comment Hearst
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Poor Greeks, probably wish they were free enough to own guns right about now..

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